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Former Infosys Recruiter Says He Was Told Not To Hire US Workers

dcblogs writes: A lawsuit by four IT workers alleging that outsourcing firm Infosys favored hiring Indian workers over U.S. workers now includes an account from a former Infosys recruiter about the alleged practice. It includes accounts by Samuel Marrero, who worked in Infosys's talent acquisition unit from 2011 until May 2013, of meetings with executives at the India-based IT services firm. Marrero and other recruiters "frequently complained" to higher-ups at Infosys during these weekly calls that many of the highly qualified American candidates they had presented were being rejected in favor of Indian prospects. In response to one of these complaints, Infosys' global enterprise lead allegedly said, "Americans don't know $#!%," according to the lawsuit. Infosys has denied allegations that it discriminates.

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  1. Typical by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Management doesn't know shit.

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    1. Re:Typical by TemporalBeing · · Score: 4, Informative

      Management doesn't know sh**.

      No, actually they are often masters of BS, at least BS good enough for the short-term.

      This isn't a matter of having a degree in BSing; it's a matter of racial prejudice and promotion. I've seen it at several other "Indian" firms as well; and typically the positions are written such that only people from their Indian offices qualify so that they can pump them into their US branches under H1Bs. There's a strategy to it; however subtle they may try to make it.

      In TFA is true, then the recruiters are trying to call them out on it, and Good for them for doing so.

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  2. Corporate Malfeasance by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Infosys is in fact guilty of discriminating against American workers by refusing to hire American workers for American jobs, then such malfeasance should be punished by confiscation of all of Infosys assets located in the United States, and by banning Infosys or any subsidiary of Infosys from operating on American soil.

    Unfortunately, we can't just kill Infosys because they are a foreign corporation based in India. But we can damn well kick them out, and we probably should.

    1. Re:Corporate Malfeasance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Unfortunately, we can't just kill Infosys because they are a foreign corporation based in India. But we can damn well kick them out, and we probably should.

      Cancel their H1B's and 90+% of their workforce (i.e., income) disappears. I'm not sure any company could survive an overnight 90% drop in revenue.

  3. Re:Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Americans can't compete in that arena.

    In this case "can't" means not allowed to compete because they are discriminated against based on race.

  4. Re:Well duh. by daemonhunter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, based on nationality, actually. American isn't a race.

  5. Re:Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Americans can't compete in that arena.

    In this case "can't" means not allowed to compete because they are discriminated against based on race.

    Actually, no... They are discriminated against based on salary expectations.

  6. Re:Well duh. by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you been to Texas?

  7. Re:Merka by meerling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you seen how many companies that have outsourced to save money have ended up cancelling it because they need people that can actually do the work and not just phone answering list monkeys? There are more than a few.

    Before any of the hypersensitive cretins that love to take everything the wrong way start yelling about racist comment or something equally inane, a "list monkey" is some that just reads down a list or script and displays no more skills than a trained monkey pushing buttons, aka a "list monkey". If you don't know what a trained monkey is, you are a sad excuse for someone that is supposed to be literate.

  8. Re:Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    One American salary is still lower than the 35 Indian salaries and data breach penalties that you end up paying if you go the outsourcing route.

    We had 3 American's replaced with 45 India Indian outsourced contractors, spent 6 months training (the outsourced people kept rotating out delaying the handover of the support), after the handover, within 6 hours, the accounts were off by over 160,000 dollars, by then end of the first day, they were off by almost 750k.
    It took the same 3 American's about 6 days to fix all of the problems caused by the outsourced employees, and cost our company half a million in penalties because of the errors occurring in the first place.

    Outsourcing never pays, unless you're in upper management and want to pad your golden parachute so you can leave before it fails due to your mismanagement.

  9. Re:Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But it also says they discriminated in favor of Indians.

    What's amazes me is how surprised white people are when they find out that other groups don't believe in non-discrimination as much as they do.

    Around the world hiring those from one's own group is pretty standard practice.

  10. Harley-Davidson laid off 125 Americans. by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Harley-Davidson laid off 125 Americans and replaced them with people on H-1 visas from Infosys. H-D's biker customers aren't going to like this once the word gets out.

  11. Americans don't know what? by baudilus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would probably agree, given that the Indian government had to release a PSA music video called "Take the poo to the loo" in an effort to combat the epidemic of its citizens defecating in the streets. They definitely know their shit.

  12. Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Americans don't know $#!%"

    If that's true, why is India scrambling to send all their children to U.S. colleges and universities? Sounds like just plain ole racism to me. I hope they get fined out the wazoo, have all their current contracts revoked and end up being banned from doing business in the U.S. (although the latter is probably never going to happen, we can dream).

  13. Re:Well duh. by NatasRevol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aren't they really discriminated against based on salary?

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  14. Re:Well duh. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    they are discriminated against based on geography.

    Wrong. These are US based jobs. They hired South Asian immigrants for jobs in America in preference to people of other races. Infosys has about 15,000 employees in America and 90% of them are South Asian. I doubt that happened by random chance.

  15. Re:Well duh. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    Aren't they really discriminated against based on salary?

    If so, then that is also illegal. It is illegal for them to pay H1B employees less than they pay American residents with the same capability. So they cannot use the lower cost of H1Bs as a defense.

  16. Re:Well duh. by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But it also says they discriminated in favor of potential H1-B servants.

    Fixed that for you.

    That's the story. Infosys is nothing more than an H1-B mill.

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  17. Re:Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, as long as I hire white South Africans, I don't have to have any negroes on my payroll?

    Oh, what's that? There's more to the legal definition of "race" as it applies to anti-discrimination laws than a third-grade definition provided by an internet lawyer? Well! Imagine that!

  18. Re:Well duh. by boristdog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Exactly. My company, based in the US, had [contractor name redacted] take over our IT. [contractor name redacted] is based in India. They slowly got rid of all the American IT employees over about 2 years and replaced them with Indian nationals. They would rotate them in an out based on whatever kind work visa they had. None of them ever really learned our system and eventually they had to hire back some of the Americans they got rid of.

    Fortunately management has started to wake up and we're ditching [contractor name redacted] at the end of their contract.

  19. Re:Well duh. by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, the definition got screwed up years ago. "Native Americans" really should mean anyone born in America (North, Central, and South America).

    I was born in America. I'm a native American. Take all the modern definitions and politically correct garbage and throw it out of the window.