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Google Announces Motorola-Made Nexus 6 and HTC-Made Nexus 9

An anonymous reader writes In addition to Android 5.0 Lollipop, Google today also announced the first devices running the new version of its mobile operating system: the Nexus 6 and the Nexus 9. The former is a phablet built by Motorola, and the latter is a tablet built by HTC. The Nexus 6 is going up for pre-order on October 29, starting at $649. The Nexus 9 meanwhile is going up for pre-order this Friday (October 17), and you'll also be able to get it in stores on November 3.

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  1. Meh by blackomegax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wake me up when there's a small one for $350 again.

    1. Re:Meh by stdarg · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google has arranged a release with 5 major US carriers simultaneously -- Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular. They will be available under contract at a big discount (up front cost $50 or so instead of $650). The carriers probably put pressure on Google to keep the unlocked price high so we perceive a value to the contract.

    2. Re:Meh by Amnenth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The page that the Nexus 6 is presented on still has a link to the Nexus 5. My personal theory at this time (unproven) is that they're keeping the Nexus 5 around as their lower-end model, since they don't have anything to replace its price point with. Hell, the Nexus 5 page now shows the device running Android L (Lollipop.)

    3. Re:Meh by erice · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The page that the Nexus 6 is presented on still has a link to the Nexus 5. My personal theory at this time (unproven) is that they're keeping the Nexus 5 around as their lower-end model, since they don't have anything to replace its price point with. Hell, the Nexus 5 page now shows the device running Android L (Lollipop.)

      While the Nexus 5 is not as enormous as the Nexus 6, it is anything but small.

      Which is the chief problem with the various "mini" models available today. Not a one is actually a small, well featured phone. They are simply old and/or reduced spec phones every bit as big as the first wave of large phones.

    4. Re:Meh by Scot+Seese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why couldn't they have hit the sweet spot - 5", 1080p, and focused on camera quality & battery life?

      Google doesn't understand hardware.

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    5. Re:Meh by sasparillascott · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are correct, except the Sony Z3 compact (they put the high end stuff in a smaller design):

      http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...

      We just have to wait and see if we can actually buy it.

    6. Re:Meh by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, they totally aren't seeing a successful trend and following it.

    7. Re:Meh by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why couldn't they have hit the sweet spot - 5", 1080p, and focused on camera quality & battery life?

      Google doesn't understand what I want in hardware.

      FTFY.

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    8. Re:Meh by DougDot · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here ya go: http://oneplus.net/

    9. Re:Meh by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words, AT&T and Verizon will sell crippled, ruined, defective-by-design phones with locked bootloaders masquerading as real "Nexus" devices, tainting the brand name as badly as Verizon's Galaxy Nexus did. :-(

    10. Re:Meh by Miamicanes · · Score: 3, Informative

      Huge warning about the Z3 -- Sony implemented a chunk of the camera firmware in a way that causes it to be crippled forever if you unlock the bootloader... and as of at least a few days ago, there was no root exploit that didn't depend upon having an unlocked bootloader. There probably will be one eventually... but you might be waiting a LONG time to get it. Ask yourself whether you'll still be happy with the phone if you end up not being able to root it for months (or ever), and if you'll still be satisfied with it if the low-light performance goes to hell as a consequence of unlocking the bootloader.

      Put another way, don't buy a Z3 unless you know beyond doubt there's a working root exploit for it that doesn't require an unlocked bootloader, and make equally sure that the phone you're buying has a ROM that hasn't slammed the door and locked out that root method. You'll still lose a chunk of the camera's functionality for the duration of your use of a custom ROM, but at least you'll preserve the ability to restore the phone back to stock at some future time if desired.

    11. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google's doing a fine job on it's own, I'm still pissed that my microSD card is virtually worthless as most apps are no longer allowed to use it. I bought a beefy card because a couple of apps needed a large amount of space only to discover that they couldn't be moved nor could they be made to use the space on the card for their cache files. What's more, none of the apps that move things to the card work.

      Considering that the phone has a microSD card slot, I shouldn't have to look up whether or not the current release will let me actually use it.

  2. Re:The amazing part by Stewie241 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's amazing how companies can manage to survive when they are owned by Google.

  3. Nexus 6 by Krymzn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I though Tyrell made the Nexus 6?

    1. Re:Nexus 6 by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      All those... moments... will be lost in time, like [small cough] tears... in... rain.

      Time... to die...

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  4. Re:cool by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    No, I have a writing disorder and tend to type like that. Sorry. You should see my handwriting. :-)
    Keyboards have been a godsend for me.

    Anyways... previous Nexus models were GSM which makes sense for the rest of the world. But in the US we have a lot of carriers that are CDMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

    GSM you can move from carrier to carrier. CDMA you cannot.
    I've very supprised to see they are going to both types of carriers.
    I found the specs:
    Channels, North America GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    CDMA Band Class: 0/1/10
    WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
    LTE Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41
    CA DL Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29

    Does it have BOTH? Or are there 2 models of phone?
    If it has both, I'll be switching to this when my contracts up.

  5. Re:phablet by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    I hope it does along with the form factor...

  6. Also announced Nexus player by vivek7006 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And it is powered by an Intel chip. Interesting that Google decided to go with Intel 64-bit SoC instead of ARM. This is a big win for Intel

  7. Re: The amazing part by StarWreck · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think its amazing that you don't know Google still owns Motorola. The Lenovo deal isn't finalized or approved yet.

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  8. Re:Will it fit in my front pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's a feature patented by Apple apparently.

  9. Re:phablet by Tailhook · · Score: 2

    No. The phablet term is not going to be allowed to die. It concisely expresses contempt for crazy huge "phones" and those of us that know better than to expect our phones to be portable movie theaters will continue to use it freely.

    Deal.

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  10. Re:cool by Scutter · · Score: 2

    Maybe he typed it on an iPhone.

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  11. Bring the 10 Back by Maltheus · · Score: 2

    I have the 4, the 7 (2nd gen) and the 10. The Nexus 10 is the best smart anything I ever bought. Good speakers and nice sized screen. I can go a couple weeks between recharges. That should have been their flagship product.

    I thought the 7, despite all the stellar reviews was garbage. Crummy battery life makes it unusable. I might get a day or two on this. The random reboots don't help either.

    I have pretty much the exact same software on both, except that I confine my video watching to the 10. I'm lucky if I can even check my twitter feed on the 7, without having to plug it in everyday.

    I don't see the point of the 9. A 7 is about the best you can comfortably manage with one hand. If you have to use two anyway, then they should have just moved up to an 11 or a 12.

  12. Re:No SD card, non-removable battery by tbuddy · · Score: 2

    Galaxy S5 Google Play Edition

  13. Re:VS Moto X Gen 2 by danbob999 · · Score: 2

    Moto X 2nd has a smaller, lower resolution display, less RAM, and a slower SoC. Many people will prefer the smaller size of the Moto X however.

  14. Re:Pass - Had major issues with Nexus 5 (from LG) by Maltheus · · Score: 2

    LG messed up the 7 too. I read somewhere that it's battery issues may be tied to the substandard wiring people were observing, when they took the unit apart. I have much better luck with the 10.

  15. Re:cool by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

    FYI, the Nexus 5 is GSM & CDMA, and works just fine on Sprint's network. The only reason it doesn't (or didn't -- maybe it's changed?) work on Verizon's network was because Verizon decided not to allow it, not technological incompatibility.

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  16. awesome by slashdice · · Score: 2

    This may be the only time android users can experience a 69! Well, outside a LUG, that is.

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  17. Re: The amazing part by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's amazing I was wrong. Dammit! :)

  18. Re:No SD card, non-removable battery by Kielistic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nexus devices no longer offer those features. With the high price-point on this phone it really does seem that Google has abandoned everything that made the Nexus line so much better than the iPhones. I guess they think their OS is prime time enough they no longer have to offer those frills.

    As for an accessory port: It's called USB. Bluetooth is also available.

  19. Re:Pass - Had major issues with Nexus 5 (from LG) by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Informative

    Huh? The Nexus 7, both variants, was manufactured by Asus.

  20. Re:Pass - Had major issues with Nexus 5 (from LG) by swillden · · Score: 2

    Huh? The Nexus 7, both variants, was manufactured by Asus.

    And as far as I've seen, both of them have proven to be excellent devices.

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  21. Re:Wireless charging gone? by jigamo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google's page for the Nexus 6 doesn't list charging info, but it's really sparse with the spec information. Motorola's page has a lot more details, which include under the Battery information, "Qi Wireless charging support."

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  22. Re:No wireless charging built in? by jigamo · · Score: 2

    This is correct. You can see for yourself on Motorola's site that it comes with "Qi Wireless charging support."

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  23. Re:What's the point anymore? by Eccles · · Score: 2

    Yeah, they just lost me. I hate contracts and have been switching phones fairly regularly, selling the old phone to help pay for the new. So it was perhaps $100 to upgrade each time. Now it's more like $400 to upgrade, and there's lots of quality competition at that price. The only clear advantage it has, assuming you don't absolutely want a phablet, is its version of Android is most up-to-date. I think it's going to lose the Nexus fans, most of whom will stay with the 5, without gaining much of an audience. How unique is the fast charging?

    And I'm particularly annoyed because I'm on T-Mobile, which has their new Wi-Fi calling/texting feature, but it's not supported with the 5. (Rumor was the 6 would support it.)

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  24. Re: The amazing part by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hmm...have to say I didn't find any points in this conversation to be amazing.

  25. Re: The amazing part by Dragon+Bait · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's amazing I was wrong. Dammit! :)

    It's amazing that someone admitted they were wrong. Consider +2 to your credibility.

  26. Re:Same cell modems? by assassinator42 · · Score: 2

    Searching brings up Intel, MediaTek, Broadcom and Nvidia.
    The Blackphone uses an Nvidia modem; which supposedly doesn't need to share memory.
    I'm assuming the Nexus 9 will use an Nvidia modem as part of their SoC as well.

  27. Re:And they'll be running Android Lollipop by RivenAleem · · Score: 2

    They named it lollipop because it will come with the next evolution in biometric unlocking, tongue-print to unlock. I'm coining the phrase "Unlicking my phone" right now.