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Dish Pulls Fox News, Fox Business Network As Talks Break Down
An anonymous reader writes Fox News and Fox Business were pulled by Dish Network over the weekend, as both continue to argue over a fee agreement. From the article: "Dish said in a statement early Sunday morning that 21st Century Fox had blocked access to the two networks after Dish balked when rates for other networks owned by the media conglomerate were made a part of the negotiations. Tim Carry, executive vice president of distribution at Fox News Channel, countered in a statement that "Dish prematurely ceased distribution of Fox News in an attempt to intimidate and sway our negotiations. It is unfortunate that the millions of Fox News viewers on Dish were used as pawns by their provider. Hopefully they will vote with their hard earned money and seek another one of our other valued distributors immediately."
Fox news did not report it.
Samzenpus forgot to blame this on the freedom-oppressing and america-hating labor unions. Clearly they are some how at fault here if fox news has been disconnected. I would have expected him to at least have read the article far enough to find a way to make that connection happen.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
This is far from limited to just Dish customers, as each major cable provider has to renegotiate regularly.
I've noticed a common theme, though... no matter who you talk to, it's the other greedy bastard who's being unreasonable.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
good riddance. Please die.
Thanks,
Everyone.
Perhaps if the story'd been more fair and balanced?
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
In unrelated news: Average IQ up 5 points in US.
When did you leave?
When Turner Networks pulled their newschannels like CNN, CNNi, and HLN during the negotiations with Dish, Dish substituted for Glen Beck's Blaze channel and Al-Jazeera America. This time, Dish only substituted Beck's Blaze for one of the Fox News channels. I'm guessing that putting Al-Jazeera in as a substitute for Fox News would have caused a substantial portion of Dish customer's heads to explode. So kudos for Dish for thinking of the cranial integrity of their customers.
Yeah, it was originally an attempt by Fox EG to compete with Stephen Colbert and The Colbert Report.
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
Do differing viewpoints upset you?
I actually don't like the idea of being a faceless member of a collective, or causing a great divide between management and workers. But right now we have a situation where one side is organized and using its leverage to drive a tough bargain (with companies growing ever-larger, and more profitable), and the other is just lying down.
You need Fox news so Democratic administrations are held accountable.
You need MSNBC so Republican administrations are held accountable.
There are blowhards and static on both channels, but there is some useful information to be gleaned amongst the chaff.
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These outages can be pain, but as long as it keeps my bill from increasing, I support Dish's tough negotiating tactics.
There's a problem there... MSNBC's weekend lineup is filled with "Lockup", a program about jail that they ordered a batch of too many episodes. CNN is broadcasting mostly recorded programs on the weekend. So, only Fox News is covering the world as it happens with weekend newscasts during the day on weekends.
You need jourmalism to keep them both accountable, not just one, because all too often BOTH are at fault.
Further I think that journalism is there to bring you facts, not to 'hold acountable' anything, because if they start doing that, they are not just the messanger anymore (and you can shoot them for all I care). They are propaganda. That will then lead to censorship (Don't tell anything bad about our side and hope that nobody else finds out)
What you have now is the choise of being shot in the left or the right kneecap and the media telling how bad the others are to shoot you in THAT specific kneecap.
Who is bringing up that being shot in the kneecap is just not a good idea altogether? That is what journalism should be about.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
I don't really understand the issues. How much was Dish charging Fox News to deliver their content to Dish viewers? And what sort of fee increases was Dish asking for?
Have gnu, will travel.
Fox News is not offering a different viewpoint, they're offering right-wing FUD.
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Look who's bored. Dish customer?
The interesting thing was also that the Fox rep said: "Hopefully they will vote with their hard earned money". I can't imagine that it was Fox insisting on a lower compensation for their shows. So, Dish could choose either to increase the rate for the customers and take their hard earned dollars for Fox or cough the money up themselves. Is it that Carry is too stupid to realise this (just uttering one of the typical cliche expressions) or what?
Bert
Up next on Fox News: Climate Change: Hoax of the century or are all scientists just stupid? Later, BENGHAZI!!!!! followed by the IRS "scandal." Then after the break it's the economy, year six of inflation being just around the corner, with special guest the president of Goldline who will talk about the great investment opportunity that gold represents. But first, Barack Hussein Obama: how the Kenyan Marxist Socialist Islamist Communist faked his birth certificate, his plans to destroy America, and the source of his anti-white rage.
Nobody watches MSNBC.
Damn, the Republicans are up early this morning. Church let out already? Run out of abortion clinics to firebomb?
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Do differing viewpoints upset you?
There is nothing wrong with Fox News as a source for people who go looking to hear the news from a particular viewpoint. The problem with Fox News is that they pretend - smirkingly because they're smart enough to know the truth - that they are "fair and balanced." And some (many, actually) people who are naive or intellectually uncurious actually believe this is an even-handed depiction of reality instead of an editorialized view. This leads these people to think that everything in the world that is wrong is due to muslims, liberals or Obama (who is both). And that in turn leads to extremism and fosters ever more deep and toxic political divides.
I have no problem at all with differing viewpoints. I only have a problem with those - and this includes "news" sources across the spectrum from the New York Post to Adbusters - that are willing to actively mislead the reader in order to advance their particular editorial slant and agenda. While it may be fun as entertainment for the knowing, it is deadly poison for the health of the community as a whole for those who really believe it. Think about someone who has a 100 IQ... and then realize that half the country is dumber than that.
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In *most* cases, they *don't*. They stick to Fox "News", and then read about how horrible MSNBC is via Breitbart, The Blaze, World Net Daily, etc, which only furthers the political divide.
WTF areyou watching either of them?
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There exists some people who need to know what Bill O'Rielly is talking about each night. Those people can't tolerate Dish's occasional dropping of networks. DirecTV gets most of its deals done without disruption, but therefore has to increase prices more often.
Those people can watch The Daily Show...
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That's because intelligent people don't watch either network. You get a better perspective from a mix of NPR, BBC, and even Aljazheera English.
While I'm definitely not a fan of their ouvre, Fox News is the fourth most popular cable channel, behind only Disney, Nickelodeon, and Adult Swim. As much as you may not like that, they certainly do have a "large enough following".
looks like someone is hurt
Who's hurt? I have no problem with Fox News per se and I have no problem with people who agree with Fox News. If that's what you like, that's fine, especially if you understand Fox News to be an editorial product. But it is clearly disingenuous at best when it claims to be "fair and balanced," and some people either trust Fox more than they should, or are not possessed of enough critical thinking skills to see if for what it is, which is bad for society.
fox news is number one in viewers and ratings for every 1 cnn hln etc viewer there is 100 to 10,000 watching fox news . if it was fud then other news networks would eat them alive
I think you are equating being "popular" with being "good," and that is a pretty serious mistake. I think it's also a mistake to recognize that it may well be popular entirely because it's FUD. Many, many people - conservative Fox viewers, liberal MSNBC viewers, whatever - want someone to pick all their news for them in advance so that they don't have to encounter any news in the world that doesn't agree with their beliefs. That's their right but I think we would be less of a toxically polarized society if we listened to more two-sided views, or at least acknowledged the biases that were driving us to want to only consume a politically slanted news message.
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I must admit, I wasn't really on the band wagon of making the comments. I came here looking to read the humor.
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I personally don't depend on any of the networks because I have had the displeasure of having the opportunity of learning how broadcast journalism actually works. As a result, I have absolutely no use for their media. I certainly don't wish to be a target for what passes as journalism today.
The government operations (like the Senate, House, etc...) are broadcast an televised. We're choosing candidates as members of a team. We pick a team like Fox or CNN and they broadcast play by play or blow by blow reports of how they interpreted events in the government. We don't choose politicians to represent our best interests. We choose politicians to be a member of one team or another. We want our teams to win and we don't care what they have to do in order to do it. We love the technicalities too. Like, "My team doesn't like what the president did. Look here, there's a little rule in the rule book which says we can throw a card and sue the president for doing his job the best he can".
I must admit, I put little faith in the silliness you seemed to come here to attack. I have far less use for a drone like yourself who seems to think that just because someone won a popularity contest and was voted CEO (which actually doesn't mean what you think it does) he/she or they are special by some means.
Comments here are a waste of time and effort, but for many of us provide an outlet for our frustrations with the system. It's probably no more productive than talking sports at a bar, but it at least keeps us from being drunk all the time. If you're not interested in the Slashdot method of communicating, why would you bother coming here? Of course, I guess maybe you're just using the comments as a place to be a dick and unload a bit. More power to you. Enjoy, Slashdot is here to offend and we are its little helpers
Says the person posting on Slashdot trying to exert the fact that he is smarter than everyone......
Says the person meta-criticizing a /. criticism, and who also apparently cannot tell the difference between the words "exert" and "assert".
Also, the bonus for doctor's offices and car dealerships doesn't account for the success of Fox's prime time shows. Fox News routinely blows out its competitors in prime time, a time at which most of those businesses are closed and viewers are watching at home.
Mod parent too close to the truth. People need to take responsibility for their actions rather than blame it all on racism. Enough of you libtards and your disgusting and vile BS, trying to label anyone who disagrees with your appalling communist ideology as a racist. Absolutely shameless. The only racist around here is YOU. What the hell is your problem anyway and why do you have such a racist hatred of white people that you feel so inclined to go on the attack whenever anyone should call you out?
What a staggeringly ignorant post, oh wait, it's Slashdot...
What? CNN and MSNBC are also part of 'basic cable', and do you simply not understand the difference between subscribers and viewers?
Oprah's OWN network and Algezera America have LOTS of subscribers, but no viewers to speak of. This impacts the advertising rate and the types of advertisers they are able to attract.
Fox News has the highest rated shows in cable news, and they can charge premium rates for their advertising spots... Why, because they have the VIEWERS.
No, only YOU confuse subscribers with viewers... Everyone else understands the difference.
So they falsely count telivisons on in "gyms, doctor's offices, auto dealers"? No, those are called VIEWERS, actual viewers, and the businesses that choose to put their public TVs on those channels have equally free access to CNN, MSNBC, CSPAN, PBS, OWN, Lagezera America, Discovery channel, etc.
Your inability to understand the difference between subscribers and viewers is not evidence of 'lying' Fox News - these are the Arbitron numbers the industry runs on, these are the numbers CNN is trying to improve by airing documentaries and travel shows on their 'news' channel in the evening.
Ken
I've never heard of a cable package with CNN not on basic cable. You usually get CNN, Fox, and MSNBC. Dish network, the company who we're allegedly talking about, has all 3 on their basic service.
Also, the bonus for doctor's offices and car dealerships doesn't account for the success of Fox's prime time shows. Fox News routinely blows out its competitors in prime time, a time at which most of those businesses are closed and viewers are watching at home.
The people still glued to their TV sets and cable television in the US in 2014 are very likely politically and educationally uniform.
Admittedly with no data to hand, the demographic who watches FOX as a source of news likely anti-intellectual, science-denying, god-fearing, economically disenfranchised, and socially regressive.
But even if I'm mistaken in my gross stereotype of the audience for FOX News, judging the "merits" of a TV network according to the size of the TV audience misses the forest for the trees which is that in 2014 the smart ones aren't really watching any cable TV at all.
One guess where those smart people are getting their news. (Hint: the Internet has many, many sources of information where even single individuals can reach millions of people pretty much in real time.)
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