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Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons
An anonymous reader writes Following polling on Linus Torvald's Google+ page, he's decided to make the next kernel version Linux 4.0 rather than Linux 3.20. Linux 4.0 is going to bring many big improvements besides the version bump with there being live kernel patching, pNFS block server support, VirtIO 1.0, IBM z13 mainframe support, new ARM SoC support, and many new hardware drivers and general improvements. Linux 4.0 is codenamed "Hurr durr I'ma sheep."
No, it's the kernel. systemd is a crap load of applications. Applications that ignore stderr, drop higher priority syslog messages, and ignores nonzero exit statuses.
At least we finally get some understandable technical arguments instead of "it's a monolithic blob" or "it does not respect the UNIX way of doing things".
No . Systemd now includes a new daemon called kerneld 4.0 .. and all these afre included in .... .... .... EMACS mwhahahahaha
the inescapable conclusion that internet polls are bad.
Big surprise.
But "Hurr durr I'ma sheep" trounced "I like online polls" by a 62-to-38%
margin, in a poll that people weren't even supposed to participate in.
Who can argue with solid numbers like that? 5,796 votes from people who
can't even follow the most basic directions?
In contrast, "v4.0" beat out "v3.20" by a slimmer margin of 56-to-44%,
but with a total of 29,110 votes right now.
Now, arguably, that vote spread is only about 3,200 votes, which is less
than the almost six thousand votes that the "please ignore" poll got, so
it could be considered noise.
But hey, I asked, so I'll honor the votes.
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No, it's the kernel. systemd is a crap load of applications. Applications that ignore stderr, drop higher priority syslog messages, and ignores nonzero exit statuses.
What the fuck is up with you trolls repeating these stupid lies?
systemd may or may not have problems, but it demonstrably does not "ignore stderr, drop higher priority syslog messages, [or] ignore nonzero exit statuses".
If it does, or ever has done, any of these things where is the fucking bug report.
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"It's called Linux 4.0."
How's that?
Already some versions of Linux has been everything from Lucid Lynx to Trust Tahr. Windows is technically Chicago, isn't it?
And, sorry, but my software on my desktop at the moment consists of Xibo, Google, Putty, Audacity, GIMP, MonkeyJam, Scratch, GLPI (colloquially known as "gloopy"), and numerous others. And I work in a very posh independent school. This is what the kids see every day. Are the school bothered? No.
If you're put off by the name, use the version number like everyone else. And if your CIO doesn't allow you to deploy something because of a nickname, yet it fulfills all your business purposes and doesn't have the name visible ANYWHERE, he's an idiot.
Will luck, we also won't have idiotics ACs too!
The server running the bug reporting solution dropped the bug report.
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
Don't worry, systemd does not take over existing projects, it only rewrites them poorly.
Well Toyota did release the MR2 in France....
It's the same character for both in Chinese - you have to disambiguate if you want to be more specific. There are more goats than sheep in China, so it's usually translated as goat if not specific.
"Hurr durr I'ma sheep" won over the alternative "I like online polls" which got 38% of the votes. ...in a vote Torvalds asked people not to vote in, and yet 5,796 people did.
In the real poll, "v4.0" beat out "v3.20" by 56% to 44% out of 29,110 votes.
Since nobody ever use the kernel code name, it doesn't matter in the slightest what it's called. Everyone will refer to the kernel as "4.0".
"Total destruction the only solution" - Bob Marley
I work for a Fortune 500 company and I can assure you that my company's project names are no less ridiculous.
The only difference is that my company's products aren't open source, so the public almost never gets to see the project names and all the other silly things that show up in the comments of the code.
Even if those "technical arguments" are lies?
Seriously -- there are no reliable reports of systemd doing what these anonymous trolls report it as doing.
One of the advances of systemd is that it does log stderr from processes it starts, so some clown has decided to complain that it doesn't.
There are no reliable reports of this behaviour -- it's all a bunch of AC posts on Slashdot plus one on Reddit (which was immediatley refuted), plus a few paranoid claims about bug reports being "deleted". How do you delete a bug report from bugzilla? You can't.
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Yes, exactly. I'm running Debian Jessie and I'm not really comfortable with binary logs. It takes decades of log practice and throws it away. For what? Search capability? Maybe there's some security benefit, honestly I don't know enough about it to comment. I'll be forwarding my logs to nice text files for the foreseeable future though, until I for one welcome my new systemd overlord.
Cthulhu Saves.
Seriously?
The GP posts a straight out lie, some moron mods it "interesting".
I point out that it is a lie. I get moderated "flamebait".
Even if you hate systemd, try to beat it with facts. If you start to base your arguments on verifiable lies we begin to doubt your sanity.
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when you say 'the UNIX way of things', you mean like AIX does, like Solaris does or like HPUX does? because those UNIX stopped using custom scripts years ago
Big step from 3.19: No
Same work as 3.20: Yes
The reference point is 3.0. Kernel development is now 'inline' (as opposed to the old even=release, odd=development system). That means the minor number just gets bigger and bigger, and the kernel gets further and further away from what 3.0 was.
This means at somepoint one should bump the major version number; the question is when? Linus has the answer for this: Basically when the minor number gets asthetically displeasing to him, he'll bump the major number and start the minor number again at 0.
One might ask what will Linus do when the major number gets too big (e.g. >20) ?
Others might ask, why don't they just use a year/calendar based version number? Like Ubuntu does.
Yes, exactly. I'm running Debian Jessie and I'm not really comfortable with binary logs.
The default configuration on Debian Jessie is to log everything to syslogd as before.
What difference did you notice in the logging?
I'll be forwarding my logs to nice text files for the foreseeable future though
Why are you doing that? The system already does it for you.
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That's a bold statement.
Most Unix stuff doesn't follow the Unix "way of doing things"...
Wake up, this is the real world...
All I'm wondering is whether there has ever been a single quote in the codename before? Virtually guaranteed to break someone's build system...
They should have just gone straight to eleven because, you know, it's one more than ten plus that way they could have one-upped OS X _AND_ Windows! (and it's a freaking prime on top of that!)
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Yes, Linux is only on embedded devices. It's not running on my phone, laptop, desktop, and server at all.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
Yeah, I forgot the damned "</b>". Makes me sound like an angry person. Not that I could ever be mistaken for an angry person otherwise.
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The company I work for is currently code-naming their projects after cartoon characters.
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