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Microsoft Celebrates 40th Anniversary

HughPickens.com writes Alyssa Newcomb reports at ABC News that the software company started by Bill Gates and Paul Allen on April 4, 1975 is 40 and fabulous and highlights products and moments that helped define Microsoft's first four decades including: Microsoft's first product — software for the Altair 8800; Getting a deal to provide a DOS Operating System for IBM's computers in 1980; Shipping Windows 1.0 in 1985; Microsoft Office for Mac released in 1989; Windows 3.0 ships in 1990, ushering in the era of graphics on computers; Windows 95 launches in 1995, selling an astounding 7 million copies in the first five weeks, and the first time the start menu, task bar, minimize, maximize and close buttons are introduced on each window.

For his part, Bill Gates sent a letter to employees celebrating Microsoft's anniversary, and how far computing has come since he and Paul Allen set the goal of a computer on every desk and in every home, and predicting that computing will evolve faster in the next 10 years than it ever has before.

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  1. edison, ford, gates by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    in every household

    1. Re:edison, ford, gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nice Microsoft Ad. Didn't mention that they stole much of what they did. I had to laugh when they, "ushered in", the era of graphics...which was already in use by the time Microsoft copied others. Microsoft's greatest contribution to the world of computers was advertising.

    2. Re:edison, ford, gates by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Hmm I dont own a ford, The Edison light-bulb has been replaced by CFL's, and I quit using Microsoft back in 1995.

      You have to love progress!

  2. Buying DOS from some other guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    and convincing IBM to pay them per install.

    1. Re:Buying DOS from some other guy by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Microsoft already had prime real estate in the form of the Cassette-Basic ROM on the motherboard of the early IBM PCs. If you booted a PC from that era up with no boot floppy (or, no floppy disk controller installed at all) it booted to the Microsoft BASIC prompt. A bare machine booted to the same 'Ready' prompt as an Apple or Commodore or TRS-80 machine of the time. Microsoft was IN the machine even without DOS.

  3. Re:And to think by crunchy_one · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I did. Microsoft was the big dog in the world of BASIC. My second personal computer, an Apple II Plus, came with Applesoft BASIC in ROM, a Microsoft product, of which I have fond memories. Happy birthday Microsoft!

  4. Re:What about Bob? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    unfortunately digital "agents" are still very much a thing with ask google and siri and cortana... the idea that you have an ai that knows better than what you want to do is stil very much alive, though not of course working at all like described.

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  5. Re:And to think by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    40 years ago I never heard of it.

    Often I wish I never heard of it, today.

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  6. Evolution by sanf780 · · Score: 2
    If computing is going to evolve far way faster in the next ten years than on the previous ten, can Microsoft cope with that? For many people and companies, the usage pattern of Microsoft software has been Windows XP and Office 2003 for approximately the last ten years (with some offset).

    Adobe set a worrying pattern here that I think Microsoft wants to follow: Software as a Service. That is, monthly or yearly fees for licenses. And the reason is that, for some people, some software do everything you need. A similar thing happens with the CPUs - upgrade cycles are becoming longer.

    1. Re:Evolution by peragrin · · Score: 1

      But computing isn't going to change much in the next ten years. 15 maybe. The biggest changes coming down are merging interfaces consoldidating and standardizing interface features. I don't see the desktop and file metaphors going anywhere soon.

      Hopefully we will move back to cross platform connectedness. However that is a long road. Why can't iCloud work with other browsers?

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  7. What? by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows 3.0 ships in 1990, ushering in the era of graphics on computers

    I think Apple might have something to say about that claim....

    1. Re:What? by spire3661 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Windows won using abusive monopolist tactics.....dont ever forget the INCREDIBLY huge pall MS held over computing for almost 2 decades.

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    2. Re:What? by msauve · · Score: 1

      I think Cromemco might have something to say about any claim Apple might make...

      (Assuming we're limiting this to microcomputers. Otherwise, see Tek 4010, among others.)

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    3. Re:What? by DogDude · · Score: 1

      ont ever forget the INCREDIBLY huge pall MS held over computing for almost 2 decades.

      You really need to get a hobby other than corporate law if you worry about browser/OS packaging for 20 years.

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    4. Re:What? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      The browser thing.....its so cute how people lump 20 years of malfeasance into 'o noes browser wars'. You show a shocking lack of knowledge on what really happened in Microsoft's rise.

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    5. Re:What? by kthreadd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Windows won using abusive monopolist tactics.....

      Ehm, technically you can't really use "abusive monopolist tactics" until after you've "won."

    6. Re:What? by msobkow · · Score: 2

      Windows had a colour graphics API; the Macs of the period were still black and white.

      Personally I thought the Amiga was better than either (and so I bought one), but they're not around to lay claim to being first with graphics accelerators and special-purpose sound chips.

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    7. Re:What? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      More than just special sound chips.

      The Amiga design is based on the machine being a cluster of closed-source ASICS (each of which was given a girl's name). It was completely contrary to the idea of open hardware systems. Also, ASIC designs don't scale well in the era of Megahertz Wars. They tried, with the later generation Amigas, but they were too 'special' and closed to scale to the heights that the PC clone market eventually reached.

    8. Re:What? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Windows 3.0 ships in 1990, ushering in the era of graphics [GUIs] on computers

      I think Apple might have something to say about that claim....

      I think Xerox might have something to say about both, and arguably Ivan Sutherland about Xerox.

    9. Re:What? by darkonc · · Score: 2
      Apple definitely succeeded. By 1990, Mac was the de-facto standard for desktop publishing. Even many of the the biggest Window/DOS newsletters were being created on the Mac. When Windows95 came out, the mantra was "Almost as good as a Mac". Microsoft won the desktop war with anticompetitive practices, not quality.

      I remember around 1989, a print shop in Edmonton was broken into one night. The thieves stole all of the shop's Macintosh computers -- even the ones in the back room, but didn't touch the many PCs.

      If it wasn't for stiff competition from Apple, it's probable that Microsoft wouldn't have introduced a Graphical desktop until well into the '90s. Apple, The Amiga, Sun, SGI and many other companies led Microsoft in the graphical desktop field. Microsoft was very much a follower, not a leader.

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    10. Re:What? by GrahamCox · · Score: 3, Informative

      Windows had a colour graphics API; the Macs of the period were still black and white

      Nope. Colour Quickdraw was written in 1985 and shipped with the first Mac II in 1986. It had a full colour RGB model, though initially only had 256 colour hardware - 32-bit hardware came in 1987. Even the original "black-and-white" Quickdraw had a simple colour model to support colour printing on Apple's dot-matrix printer.

      You could also do colour graphics on a C64, BBC Micro and ZX Spectrum (hint - the name "Spectrum" was for that very reason). Rewrite history all you like - some might even believe it - but there are plenty of us still around that actually remember how it was.

    11. Re:What? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      More interestingly, how about the make point for M$, when IBM lawyers so foolishly made that huge mistake with regard to the contracts for the operating system for their retail computers. What a huge blunder.

      I mean Bill was really, really, lucky that his daddy were with legal firm which had deep contacts with the IBM legal team. I wonder how much money IBM's lawyers of the day made out of M$ with that 'er' mistake. Lawyers, you can never trust them.

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    12. Re:What? by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Commodore 64 had GEOS in 1986

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

      So Apple and Commodore beat them to the punch. lol

  8. Thank you, and may you live forever Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Happy 40th Anniversary and may you live forever Microsoft.
    Thank you for helping my business with your reliable and affordable products (from the DOS times until now), and for making computers usable for all people (from coders like me to even illiterates around the world).
    A Greek that uses "Linux" almost 3 decades now, but -while anonymous- is not the usual Slashdot coward...
    (haters gonna hate!)

    1. Re:Thank you, and may you live forever Microsoft! by Mass+Overkiller · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As much as people poop on Microsoft I have to thank them as well for making computers so popular and giving me a life long job and hobby that I have used to support my career and family. Thank you Microsoft!

    2. Re:Thank you, and may you live forever Microsoft! by DogDude · · Score: 1

      I roll my eyes at you.

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    3. Re:Thank you, and may you live forever Microsoft! by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      You're completely correct but 90% of the people who read this site are too young to remember how fucking horrendous of a company they were.

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    4. Re:Thank you, and may you live forever Microsoft! by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Hay, I was. I downloaded the code posted to usenet and installed Slackware 0.99b

      There are a few of us old farts still around! We remember when Microsoft still produced a stable OS called DOS. lol

  9. History revisionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    WOW: "ushering in the era of graphics on computers", WTF is HughPickens.com smoking?

    I don't get how everyone is swallowing this propaganda whole every time there's a corporate PR push like this, computer graphics predates Microsoft by decades, and computer graphics 'in every home' predates Windows 3.0 by at least 5 years if you only take the various Apples, Commodores/Amigas, Ataris that were out by 1985 and literally sold millions by then (C=64 e.g. sold 27 million overall until Commodore went bankrupt in 1993). Even "multimedia" was a popular Commodore marketing term for their CD-ROM equipped systems years before Windows 95. This blurb makes it sound like Microsoft "innovated" again and invented computer graphics all by themselves.

    Same for "the first time the start menu, task bar, minimize, maximize and close buttons are introduced on each window" (style errors aside: "start menu"/"task bar" on every window?), again min/max/close buttons were present on every window in early Lisa/MacOS, AmigaOS, Atari TOS, even Geos for C=64 way before MS copied it from Apple (who copied it from Xerox). The only thing Microsoft keeps (re)inventing is history. I guess stock prices aren't inflated high enough yet.

    1. Re:History revisionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WOW: "ushering in the era of graphics on computers", WTF is HughPickens.com smoking?

      C'mon dude... everyone knows Bill Gates invented the computer...

    2. Re:History revisionism by hhammermill · · Score: 1

      The victors get to write the history. . .or at least attempt to.

    3. Re:History revisionism by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      They managed to make it stick. That way Microsoft brought graphical UI to the masses, just like Apple brought smartphones to the masses with the iPhone though smartphones had existed more than half decade already.

    4. Re:History revisionism by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Ushering in does not mean inventing.

      The people who invented the graphical interface were not good at promoting it or implementing it in a fashion that had broad appeal and robustness. So operations like Microsoft, Apple, Digital Research (Gem) and so on had to usher people into the 'room' so to speak.

      Why the fury about this?

    5. Re:History revisionism by sconeu · · Score: 1

      "Ushering in..." That wasn't Hugh, that was a direct quote from TFA.

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    6. Re:History revisionism by damlaofis · · Score: 1

      microsoft daha nice 40 yllar görür. bilgisayar çanda ihtiyaç olan tüm eyleri size sunuyor. http://konferansinemakoltugu.c...

    7. Re:History revisionism by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      They still didn't "usher in" shit. They just made popular.

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    8. Re:History revisionism by AntiSol · · Score: 1

      Same for "the first time the start menu, task bar, minimize, maximize and close buttons are introduced on each window" (style errors aside: "start menu"/"task bar" on every window?), again min/max/close buttons were present on every window in early Lisa/MacOS, AmigaOS, Atari TOS, even Geos for C=64 way before MS copied it from Apple (who copied it from Xerox). The only thing Microsoft keeps (re)inventing is history. I guess stock prices aren't inflated high enough yet.

      Not only this, but also Windows 2.0 and Windows 3.0 had minimize and maximize buttons. The only addition to window titlebars in Win95 was the close button (which was previously achieved by double-clicking on the menu button at the left of the window titlebar). Some quality research has obviously gone into this article.

      Obligatory link to The Microsoft Hall Of Innovation. Looks like the site hasn't been maintained in quite a while and has been gone since 2010 or so, gotta love the wayback machine. I'd love to see an updated version.

    9. Re:History revisionism by AntiSol · · Score: 1

      Not really - Apple did more to bring the graphical UI to the masses. Microsoft copied it because they realised they were about to lose a massive amount of market share.

      Meanwhile, Amiga users (and others) read about these "innovations", clicked the disconnect button in their BBS software, closed the window, sat back, and chuckled to themselves.

      The only reasons Windows even sold was because people could run it on their existing hardware (like GEOS on C64), and Mac OS quickly got a reputation for being horribly unreliable (which is saying something given how reliable early Windows was).

  10. They didn't user in the era of graphics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's funny. Apple, with the Lisa I believe, and even more notably Commodore with the Amiga, were the ones who ushered in the era of graphics on computers. But yeah let's rewrite history while we're souping up Microsoft infore the release of Windows 10.

    1. Re:They didn't user in the era of graphics by crunchy_one · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On that score, let's not forget Xerox PARC. We all stand on the shoulders of giants.

    2. Re:They didn't user in the era of graphics by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The Lisa was a monumental failure.

      Being 'the first' has nothing to do with 'ushering in an era.' Being a loser who recovered from the loss by nestling in and becoming a niche player with a curated boutique customer base is a remarkable recovery, of course.

  11. Where's the cake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Someone should send them a birthday cake.

    1. Re:Where's the cake by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Someone should send them a birthday cake.

      The baker refused to bake it because of some religious believe about GNU, and is now retired thanks to 842,592 on gofundme. Suckahs!

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  12. Re:And to think by Njorthbiatr · · Score: 2

    Yeah MS is evil and nothing they do is ever good. .NET? More like FailNET. Why don't you just use Java? Java has uhh... It's uhhh better because you can use it on like 10% of the computer market-share, or something! Yeah portability!

    Plus what's up with Windows? Why can't everyone just learn Bash or something and use Linux (but only [insert favorite distro]). GUIs are dumb! I went to programming school so like, everyone else should know what I know about computers, sheesh stupid morons.

    And why not just open source everything, no strings attached? They don't need to make money! Also *grumble grumble* my job doesn't pay me enough *grumble*.

    Whoo am I right guys?

  13. Re:And to think by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    AmigaBASIC also came from Microsoft. It was pretty good, although for some reason you needed a RAM expansion to perform a graphics fill operation.

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  14. Happy 40th Micosoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Winows made PCs finally not feel like a terminal system (in two meanings)

  15. Re:And to think by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Convicted monopolist, right there with AT&T and Standard Oil...

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  16. Re:And to think by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    If you think that is all it was about, then why are you even on Slashdot?

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  17. Re:And to think by hhammermill · · Score: 1

    What as up with everything having BASIC back then? I remember reading the BASIC manual for the Commodore64 (a great manual) and writing BASIC programs only to find it severely limited in what it could do. That experience turned me off from programming for the next decade. It was only when I learned C that it became clear to me how powerful programming can be. . .

  18. I learned to program with Microsoft by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    TRS-80 in the late 70s. First was Basic, written by Microsoft. Then Z-80 assembly using the Microsoft editor, assembler, and linker. Did my debugging with TASMON (The Alternate Source Monitor), which was a great debugger.

    Sometime in the 80s Microsoft went from being a great company to being a group of douchebags.

    1. Re:I learned to program with Microsoft by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The Word Processing application built into the TRS=80 Model 100 (the world's first laptop) was personally written by Bill Gates in 8085 Assembly Language. It was Gates' last real 'coding' project at Mircosoft.

      The built in BASIC in ROM on all the early TRS-80 machines (and most of the other machines of the era) was by Microsoft.

  19. For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

    They brought computing to the masses...

    For all that Apple, Amiga, Commodore, etc. did, they did not bring computers to the masses.

    Even IBM was never going to do that, it wasn't in their vision. They tried half hearted with the PC Jr. and we all know how bad that was.

    Bill Gates "got it", he understood that we could live in a world where every home had a computer in it. We aren't there yet, but we're well on our way.

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    We wouldn't have Linux today either, without such people, because it was built on the backs of giants as well, large companies that made strides in software long before Linux was a dream.

    MS isn't perfect, but they aren't the devil either. They are simply a large company trying to make money while making customers happy (which makes them more money).

  20. Re:And to think by westlake · · Score: 1

    Microsoft was the big dog in the world of BASIC

    Microsoft was the big dog in programming languages for the micro, period. That made it very attractive to the team that was developing the IBM PC.

  21. Congratulations by jandersen · · Score: 1

    - though it hardly seems necessary after the swathe of self-congratulations mentioned in the OP.

    Windows 3.0 ships in 1990, ushering in the era of graphics on computers

    Isn't that just a bit rich, when it is well-known that the X Window System was actually invented at MIT (Wikipedia):

    The original idea of X emerged at MIT in 1984 as a collaboration between Jim Gettys (of Project Athena) and Bob Scheifler (of the MIT Laboratory for Computer Science)

    - MacOS and Windows work according the principles invented by these guys, so when did "the era of graphics on computers" begin?

    1. Re:Congratulations by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      In 1990 the X Window System was an intellectual curiosity. Then over time it became an expensive widget for the Military-industrial complex to sell for big bucks to the government and scientists. Because it was 'open' the free software nose poked it's way in the tent and it became the GUI for Linux and the other freenixes.

      It's still today essentially a niche technology and the freenixes are trying to push it outta the way so they can innovate.

  22. Re:And to think by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    BASIC.

    Beginners All purpose Symbolic Instruction Code.

    Beginners.

    That's what was up. Besides, you really could do quite a bit with BASIC on those machines by linking to Assembly code. Although many of us had to unlearn twisted spaghetti code in order to progress anywhere, I do wonder what horrible PTSD cases we would have created if high school kids in the 1970's had to start out with C. Talk about a dystopian future.

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  23. Re:And to think by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

    I hate how much I like C# and .NET.

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  24. Re:What about Bob? by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    anyone remember Clippy, the animated paper clip in Office that everyone loved?

    I see you are making a reference to Clippy, would you like some help with that?

    I didn't mind Clippy that much, but I seriously dislked that @#$@#$ Search dog. He was actually dumber than Clippy, if that's possible and seemed to cause a performance hit.

  25. The power of 10. by westlake · · Score: 1

    The eight-bit micro sold in the millions.

    The MS-DOS and Windows PC took sales into the hundreds of millions of units.

    The modular design of the PC made rapid advances in sound and graphics possible.

    But the geek tends to forget that games like Commander Keen and King's Quest were a revelation --- because you could play them on an home office machine that had. no built-in hardware support for animation.

    1. Re:The power of 10. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The MS-DOS and Windows PC took sales into the hundreds of millions of units.

      Roughly 1.5 billion currently. No other company has even come close.

  26. 20 years... by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    ought to be enough for anyone.

  27. Re:"ushering in the era of graphics on computers" by DaHat · · Score: 2

    A more intelligent person than the AC who said:

    LOL. Which idiot wrote this summary? There were no "graphics on computers" before 1990 then?

    There were cars before the Ford Model-T, would you claim that Ford did not user in the era of the horseless carriage?

    There were electric cars before the Toyota Prius, but would you claim that Toyota did not user in the era of the electric car?

    Ushering in the era doesn't mean you are first, but that you are the most effective/impactful.

    By your logic, it should not be said that Apple ushered in the era of the smartphone or tablet, plenty of companies had them before... yet Apple was the first to get it right and establish broad appeal.

  28. Time to gaze back on the throne of skulls by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    First off, I like what Microsoft is doing these days. I like what they are doing with open source, I like that they are really supporting other platforms. I even think Azure looks like a nice server solution.

    That said I don't think we should EVER forget that the computer industry lost around two decades of progress as Microsoft crushed all innovation and competition, and along with it real advancement in computer science and writing applications. There's also Microsoft trapping who knows how many brilliant minds inside Microsoft R&D, their work never to be seen again in anything meaningful because it might have impacted Windows.

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  29. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    To be fair, Commodore, etc. brought the computer to the masses in the form of plastic cased consumer products that parents could buy their children in department stores. That was a breakthrough that behemoths like IBM couldn't accomplish. The IBM PC came from the 'entry systems' division of IBM. They thought they were coming out with a low cost 'smart terminal' that could connect to their mainframes. Or at least a part of IBM's management thought that was what they were up to. I'm certain renegade elements within the corporation knew better.

  30. Re:And to think by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    The acronym for BASIC came from the era when it was mainly a pedagogical tool. Similarly, there was an operating system that originated as a pedagogical tool, called MINIX. People took BASIC and MINIX ran with them to make something more than both ideas started out as. So today there are powerful BASIC compilers with extensive libraries that you can use to easily build tight little binaries to burn into Flash on chips like PIC microcontrollers. And there is Linux, which Torvalds created because MINIX wasn't doing enough of what he wanted it to do.

    The beauty of BASIC is that you can throw together spaghetti code and get a controller chip pushing bits up and down the wires fast, while saying 'fuck you' to the people with pee running down their leg because you used goto statements. They'd still be writing up their data structures whereas your circuit is already moving bits around and making things happen in the real world. (assembly is good too, but you need a good library then. With BASIC on a PIC controller, you can drop in a line or two of code to turn any spare I/O pin on the chip into a serial I/O port for quick debugging)

  31. Re:And to think by tomxor · · Score: 1

    This. BASIC was the first language i learned, first on DOS then on an Atari ST... (I made the most of old computers when i was young when everything else was windows.)

    All i can remember is having fun writing graphics stuff but hating the crudeness of the language, and i really didn't get very far. Picked up programming again so much later, maybe it was all BASICs fault... or maybe i just wasn't persistent enough, i duno. So i don't get what was good about BASIC either.

  32. Re:And to think by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    The first IBM PCs came with BASIC in ROM and sported a cassette port on a DIN jack next to the keyboard connector. So they fully embraced the Microsoft BASIC model, while also selling MS-DOS (along with two other operating systems, including CP/M-86, that didn't sell as well) on the PC. A floppy disk drive was really expensive back then. The 160k floppy diskettes themselves cost multiple dollars each.

  33. Re:And to think by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    It was about defeating Netscape, which had a cocky little prick in charge claiming he was going to take over the desktop and have everybody running browsers with proprietary extensions connected to application servers produced by... Netscape.

    So we can thank Microsoft for squashing little twerk Andreesen, which gave us Mozilla out of the Netscape codebase. If twerk-boy had succeeded we would all probably be connected through web terminals to operations like Oracle to run our apps now.

    It sucks either way, no matter how things worked out. But Microsoft's base is build on open hardware. In the old days every time Microsoft produced a new bloated version of their OS, it meant more free/cheap hardware for Linux. Not a bad thing at all, compared to, for instance. Apple. (do you know what a hassle it is to boot NetBSD on an SE/30? Apple liked shit like that in the era of big-bad Microsoft)

  34. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    They brought computing to the masses

    Perhaps in the sense they "standardized" the OS and software by bundling and monopolizing it. But this had the side-effect of stopping progress once they knocked out a market category.

    I've seen the same bug set in MS-Access linger for about 15 years: MS didn't care because there was no practical alternative to MS-Access: they had pretty much killed Paradox and dBASE because Office bundling made Access the obvious choice in both price and familiarity. (And they bought out FoxPro).

    And they were not innovators; they purchased or stole most of the key technologies they depend on.

    If you believe competition is the key to innovation and choice, then what MS did cannot be viewed in a good light. Microsoft stifled the industry; we'd be better off without them.

  35. They list Office instead of Excel and Word? by hackertourist · · Score: 1

    Excel (first introduced on the Mac in 1985) was a huge step forward from Lotus 1-2-3. Word (first graphical version also on the Mac in 1985) blew WordPerfect right out of the water.
    Developing these for the Mac gave Microsoft a taste of what a GUI could do, which was much more than Lotus and WordPerfect were doing with their crappy GUIs grafted onto CLI programs. Even by 1990 and Windows 3.0, Lotus and WordPerfect still stank.

    That they bundled Word and Excel in 1989, whatever. The real innovation happened years before.

  36. Re:And to think by ganjadude · · Score: 1

    thats not true, they do make some good keyboards still

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  37. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

    If you believe competition is the key to innovation and choice, then what MS did cannot be viewed in a good light. Microsoft stifled the industry; we'd be better off without them.

    I do believe that competition is good...

    But if we had not had Microsoft, it would have been someone else. The situation would not be improved if Apple was the monopoly stakeholder, or IBM, etc...

    The question becomes, is there room for two companies to make a desktop OS? Maybe, but it would seem not to be the case. There were plenty of people trying back in the 80's and 90's, remember GEOS?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    There were lots of stuff like that back in the day, none of those companies would have done any different.

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    Perhaps a better question is... what else would you like to see at this point, in 2015? We can talk until we're blue in the face about the past, but that is water under the bridge. Where do we go from here?

  38. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I agree with you that it was a ripe time for a microcomputer monopoly to form. But saying that MS is not a problem because they happened to be the one plugging the monopoly hole is kind of an odd argument.

    Ideally there would be no monopolization. But if we assume for the moment that there is no practical way to prevent the kind of monopolization that happened, then we have to consider an MS domination versus some other co's domination.

    Under that scenario, I haven't seen any evidence that MS is a better monopolist than other potential monopolists.

    During IBM's monopoly heyday a generation earlier, they invented the hard-drive, floppy drive, relational databases, and perfected multi-tasking OS's and modularization of hardware. I don't see a similar set of accomplishments from MS. Clippy? MS was a ho-hum plug into the monopoly hole.

  39. Re:What about Bob? by necronom426 · · Score: 2

    The search dog is the only search I know works in Windows. The later version didn't work, and the one in Windows 7 doesn't work. A few weeks ago I was searching for a file I could see on the screen, and it didn't find it. I have no faith at all in any search in any version of windows apart from the Dog in Windows XP.

  40. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

    IBM would have kept PCs at $5,000...

    There is always that...

    I agree that any monopolist is bad, no matter the stripes...

    We could debate that until the cows come home. It isn't 1990 anymore, it is 2015...

    Now what?

  41. Maybe this will give some context. by Johnny+Loves+Linux · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've seen a lot of pro and con posts about Microsoft's place in computer history. Maybe this post will help people see it more clearly.

    1. Microsoft didn't invent BASIC. BASIC was around since 1964. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B....
    2. Microsoft didn't invent DOS. They bought something called QDOS and rebranded it DOS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8...
    3. Microsoft didn't invent ubiquitous computing. IBM created a personal computer based on the Intel 8086. But long before that there was the TRS 80, the Commodore Pet, Apple II, and for those people who preferred to roll their own hardware, there were Heathkit parts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathkit_H8, and http://oldcomputers.net/heathk...) to build one's own computers.
    4. Before there was DOS there was CP/M which could run on Intel 8080, Zilog Z80, Motorola 6502 (it was available as a card for Apple II's). There was even a version for 8086. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M)
    5. The PC industry began not with Microsoft, but with Compaq who made the first IBM PC clones. You may be too young to remember, but PCs used to be called IBM PCs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...
    6. Others have already pointed out that GUIs began with Xerox PARC, and the mouse itself goes back to 1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos)

    So what exactly did Microsoft invent? Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

    1. A method of ensuring an operating system monopoly by preventing other operating systems from being preinstalled on OEM equipment.
    2. A method of ensuring that OEMs cooperated by giving them a kickback if they cooperated with Microsoft's strategies.
    3. A EULA (End User Licensing Agreement) making it difficult, if not impossible, for an individual to decline the license, return the software, and receive a refund for the Microsoft software they didn't want to use.

    I don't believe it's immoral or wrong for folks to make their livelihood using Microsoft products, but I do think it's unwise to do business with Microsoft while being ignorant of their long history. I also think it's dishonest not to admit that the Microsoft Corporation has a long history of doing shady things to software partners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyglass,_Inc.#Browser_wars and http://www.justice.gov/atr/cas... for example) , OEM vendors, Standards Boards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML) and lastly to customers (http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf)

    1. Re:Maybe this will give some context. by AlvySinger · · Score: 1

      So... company doesn't invent much but is good as sales. *cough* Apple *cough*

    2. Re:Maybe this will give some context. by vandamme · · Score: 1

      OK, maybe the didn't invent ALL that stuff, but with Windows 10 they invented the App repository and Multiple Desktops!

  42. Don't worry, haters... by AlvySinger · · Score: 1

    ... MS might be forty this year but 2015 is the year of Linux on the desktop.

  43. predicting that computing will evolve faster in th by zbaron · · Score: 1

    Interesting that nearly all advancement and innovation in computing is happening in areas that Microsoft does not occupy, or if they are there, they are a bit player or leech.

  44. Re:And to think by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

    Wow, I still have a copy of Minix 1.5, full reference manual and the 5.25" floppies it came on. Minix was a Great OS, even on the XT's.

  45. 5 years will do it by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Android will put all the nails in the coffin of Microsoft. Around the world people do not have the disposable income we have in the USA. The poor will get computers and the 3rd world counties will for many. In the developing lands we want something that works like an iPad and if we don't have the ability to buy one for each family member we will use android. All the developers that don't have their head in the sand or their ass have seen this and are writing android apps for the billion devices out there already.

    There are a smaller group that have more disposable income and have purchased several Mac computers, iPads and iPhones. Not the norm but a big number.

    The dying breed are the ones stuck to the Windows PC for gaming, for enterprise apps and old fashioned MS Office. Any PC user with a brain would have ditched MS Office some time ago for the open source office packages and been quite happy. Windows 10 for $x per month, that will create a thermo nuclear war. Just because you build a huge cloud with your spare cash your sitting on does not mean you will attract customers. You leave a $250 steak at your kids lemonade stand it will not sell no matter how many you buy, how many you cook or how many you have on display. Give that steak enough time and you got yourself some smelly food that is attracting flies and other undesirable animals. Your moving product but not in a sustainable way.

    Good luck MS, I am ready for a change. I am sure there were longtime IBMers that we ready for IBM/Mainframers to shoot themselves in the foot when MS was the underdog.

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    Your Average Joe
  46. Re:For all the MS Hate... they did one thing well. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    IBM would have kept PCs at $5,000...

    No, CPM machines would've eaten them at that price. They may have tried, but reality would change them. Anyhow, I don't think IBM was equipped to be the PC monopoly. They were already settled in an "enterprise" mentality. Maybe Apple, Tandy, or Commodore if they had played their cards right.

  47. Re:What about Bob? by cusco · · Score: 1

    Try DIR at the command prompt. I pretty much never use the GUI search, I've always found it to be slow and cumbersome.

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    "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
  48. Re:And to think by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Well, I have to admit, me too. If it wasn't for MS, IT security wouldn't be the huge field it is today.

    A big warm thank you to MS for perfect job security, on behalf of everyone working in IT security, forensic or disaster recovery.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  49. LOLWUT? by macs4all · · Score: 1

    "Windows 3.0 ships in 1990, ushering in the era of graphics on computers..."

    You've lgot to be kidding me!

  50. Re:And to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    More WHUT?: "AmigaBASIC also came from Microsoft. It was pretty good" - So good that it instantly crashes on every Amiga with FastMem because they assumed they could use 8 bits of the address space for internal housekeeping. The only way around that was disabling it, leaving you with the built-in, slow (up to 3.5 MB/s!) 256K-2M of ChipMem. It also broke every Amiga styleguide, up to and including detailing busy loops for waiting in the manual (100% CPU use, "fsck proper timing/multitasking, we only know how to be like DOS").

  51. Oh big deal... by iq145 · · Score: 1

    The East India Trading Company just turned 415 years old in December! THAT is the oldest, most time-tested company of all time. In altered forms, it still exists to this very day...

  52. The last anniversary... by gtworld2001 · · Score: 1

    Not sure if it was 25 or 30th anniversary, Microsoft contacted me for some antique computers they wanted to borrow for a photo shoot. I said sure, cough up some bucks for the rental. (I had rented some before for movie/photo shoots,etc.) They politely declined which was no surprise.