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How To Increase the Number of Female Engineers

HughPickens.com writes: Lina Nilsson writes in an op-ed piece in the NY Times that she looks with despair at estimates that only about 14 percent of engineers in the work force are women. But there may be a solution to the disparity that is much simpler than targeted recruitment efforts. "An experience here at the University of California, Berkeley, where I teach, suggests that if the content of the work itself is made more societally meaningful, women will enroll in droves," writes Nilsson. "That applies not only to computer engineering but also to more traditional, equally male-dominated fields like mechanical and chemical engineering." Nilsson says that Blum Center for Developing Economies recently began a new program that, without any targeted outreach, achieved 50 percent female enrollment in just one academic year. In the fall of 2014, UC Berkeley began offering a new Ph.D. minor in development engineering for students doing thesis work on solutions for low-income communities. They are designing affordable solutions for clean drinking water, inventing medical diagnostic equipment for neglected tropical diseases and enabling local manufacturing in poor and remote regions.

According to Nilsson, women seem to be drawn to engineering projects that attempt to achieve societal good. She notes that MIT, the University of Minnesota, Penn State, Santa Clara University, Arizona State, and the University of Michigan have programs aimed at reducing global poverty and inequality that have achieved similar results. For example, at Princeton, the student chapter of Engineers Without Borders has an executive board that is nearly 70 percent female, reflecting the overall club composition. "It shows that the key to increasing the number of female engineers may not just be mentorship programs or child care centers, although those are important," concludes Nilsson. "It may be about reframing the goals of engineering research and curriculums to be more relevant to societal needs. It is not just about gender equity — it is about doing better engineering for us all."

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  1. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, why do you need to forcefully increase it?
    Why?

    1. Re:But why? by danbuter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because the US has some insane fascination with everyone being equal, no matter their own personal interests.

    2. Re: But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Liberal arts departments already tried that. Now you can take classes like Erotica in Middle English or Grievance Studies, because that's what students want to take, when they would be much better served (and prepared for their future jobs) by Pulling An Espresso Like Pro or Passing Time While Flipping Burgers.

    3. Re:But why? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, of course not. Who is suggesting we force it?

      They made their course more attractive to women, nothing else. It even says they didn't make any other effort right in the summary. No forced sign up, no press gangs etc. They just made the courses more interesting to female students and they signed up of their own free will.

      Mind blowing, huh?

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    4. Re:But why? by Nutria · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or perhaps universities should only offer courses that you have personally approved???

      You numb-nuts. Universities are *not* trade schools, which only teach what is popular.

      (Well, they should not be trade schools.)

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    5. Re:But why? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They just made the courses more interesting to female students and they signed up of their own free will.

      Hold the phone! Are you saying that women didn't previously sign up for this course because (gasp) they were not interested in engineering just for engineering's sake? That certainly puts paid to your previous unsubstantiated theories of sexism being responsible for the lower numbers of females in STEM.

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    6. Re:But why? by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't see why you have to change the content of courses. You can't really. There is no "women's calculus." They're talking about a program of guided study towards a particular goal. That is, a different collection of courses and independent study, not different content for the same courses.

      My brother-in-law got a building construction degree. However, he did so as part of a "green construction" program at the university. In addition to the courses on calculating loads on walls and tensile strength of materials and all that, he also had courses on ecology and environmental law, so he could better understand the context of the problems "green construction" is trying to solve and the legal frameworks in which you'd have to work.

      I imagine a "socially-conscious engineering program" would be similar. You still have to take the standard civil engineering classes to learn how to build a new water pipeline or desalinization plant to solve California's water problems, but perhaps law classes on water usage rights would be helpful. Or sociology classes to help you deal with how to communicate with the public that your new clean fusion reactor is not really one of satan's demons in a box that's going to give you canceraids.

      Sounds good to me.

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    7. Re:But why? by mariox19 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      [I]t does assert that inherently, no person should be favored over another in how they are treated by the government or, indeed by society in general.

      I don't get that at all. If you read John Locke, as Jefferson did, and as did just about every educated, politically-minded person of the time, you'd know in what sense "equal" is being used. It's a very narrow concept. "All men are created equal" means that there is no man or group of men on earth who can claim a right to be the political rulers of anyone else. It's an axiom against the idea of divine right. It's an axiom against the notion of absolute monarchy. In the context of English politics, it's an axiom against the political primacy of an un-elected monarchy or hereditary aristocracy; an argument for the primacy of Parliament. In the context of American politics, it's a political argument against kings and aristocracy; an argument for representative government.

      The concept is ante-government, or "meta" as we say (in this half-literate age). It comes before government. It's the rationale for what kind of government is right and just, and it's a strictly political concept—not a social one. It doesn't have anything to do with the egalitarianism that you allege. It has nothing to do with society, and certainly nothing to do with the modern concept that styles itself as "social justice."

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    8. Re: But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just had this /exact/ conversation with my wife. She said that the idea presented in this op-Ed is condescending (speaking a civil engineer herself). She said "what, women engineers just aren't getting enough hugs?"

      It sounds like the author is saying that the problem with women engineers is their lack of vision or creativity. If they can't extrapolate "chemical engineering" into "salinity reduction in east-African water sources" then why do we need to create a new major course of study with that name? It's the it obvious that (nearly) any type of engineering can be used to help (nearly) any group of people anywhere in the world?

  2. So its..... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Social engineering?

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  3. Optimal solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just relabel some (formerly) male engineers as females. If possible, ALL of them. They have essentially the same relevant specs when it comes to the purpose of doing engineering, so this shouldn't be a problem. Also safes lots of money in the long run because they get paid less than men yet still remain just as unlikely to drop out due to pregnancy as before. All in all, they are superior both to male engineers AND the original female engineers. In the few cases where simple relabelling isn't enough, gender reassignment surgery is also still cheaper than creating + educating a whole new engineer with the same result.

    So, where's the problem?

  4. Re:Soooo.... by fche · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They offered no "data", only slurs that the work done by mainstream engineers is not as "relevant to societal needs", that "better engineering for all" is to be provided by female engineers.

  5. What's up with all the negativity by Knightman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see a lot of negative comments about the op-ed. I really don't get it though. A lot of posters complain that it's wrong to alter the curriculum so you can attract more female students, that it's all liberal or/and feminine hogwash.

    Most universities tweak their curriculum so they are up to date and attract more students that way. So what is so wrong with making a curriculum more attractive to women? We are not talking about excluding males here, but if you feel that way maybe your ego is a bit fragile.

    The whole op-ed it can be summarized in one question:
    Do male engineers want to work with more female engineers? If yes, make the curriculum more attractive to women. You don't even need to change the curriculum, you only need to change the description so it shows what good engineering can do for society. It most instances, it's how you describe something that makes a sale.

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  6. Re:Blame it all on our ancestors... by ezdiy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just to chime in with fun theory feminists and masculinists often forget about when they start sperging about muh gender online: The mean IQ scores between men and women vary little. The variability of male scores is greater than that of females, however, resulting in more males than females in the top and bottom of the IQ distribution. What this means that yes, in absolute numbers, there are more males with above average IQ, but also higher amount of dullards, with women sticking closer to the center of the bell curve.

    My personal pet theory is that back in the day, this didnt matter that much as computers were too much of a niche. When this niche became a mainstream subject though, this distribution (in absolute numbers) started to show. Overgeneralized pet theory: intelligent people flock towards computers, others to sports and other endeavors. In absolute numbers, theres more males of smae iq than females.

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1037%2F00...
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fsc...
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1017%2Fs1...