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Obama Announces e-Book Scheme For Low-Income Communities

An anonymous reader writes: The White House has today launched an initiative encouraging top book publishers to supply $250 million worth of free e-books to low-income students. Partnering with local governments and schools nationwide, President Obama hopes that the e-book scheme will support low-income households who significantly trail the national average for computer ownership and digital connectivity. At Anacostia Library in Southeast Washington, D.C., Obama announced that libraries and schools in poorer communities would be supported by the scheme and efforts would be made to increase internet access at these establishments. Publishers involved in the program include Penguin Random House, Macmillan, Bloomsbury, HarperCollins and Simon & Schuster. NGOs, such as book donation charity Firstbook, and public libraries will also be working together to develop apps to support the digital reading program.

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  1. flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by zlives · · Score: 1

    ebay here we go

    1. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This. Does anyone think this is going to help them in any way?

      The way the US treats its poor reminds me a lot of the colonialism of earlier times. Patronizing, without any real care or concern and so far detached from the real problems that one has to wonder whether they are just stupid or whether their motives ain't what they claim to be.

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    2. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The way the US treats its poor reminds me a lot of the colonialism of earlier times. Patronizing, without any real care or concern and so far detached from the real problems that one has to wonder whether they are just stupid or whether their motives ain't what they claim to be.

      The motives are clear. Getting votes. They make promises, ask for votes, and blame others. Keep reminding the poor its no fault of theirs and they should sit and wait until someone comes in and saves them. And in our all our 'political correctness' nobody is willing to talk about the primary elements of the problem, which are kids being brought up in broken homes or no home at all with no family or community support structure. All the schools, teachers, & Ipads in the world won't do anything to help most of them. But hey, as long they'll vote for you, tell them what they want to hear. As long as you look like you are doing something, you'll get the votes.

      Unfortunately, the vicious cycle can only be broken by taking kids out of the environment, or limiting the number of kids in it. But if you propose solutions that try to do either, you will be branded as hateful, intolerant, racist, or whatever other slanderous accusation that can be thrown because your messing with guaranteed votes.

    3. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DRM, ftw... sadly, but in this case it will prevent what you suggest.

      this initiative does NOT give away hardware or include end-user subsidies to buy at reduced cost..

      it does cover content in the form of ebooks, and the publishers will no-doubt protect their product with DRM and require libraries to do the same.

    4. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Patronizing, without any real care or concern and so far detached from the real problems ...

      Would you care to explain what you think the "real problems" are, and what specific policies you would recommend to address them?

    5. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      This. Does anyone think this is going to help them in any way?

      I do. It may not help most, it may even help only a small portion, but out of that small portion will come some students that are better educated and better able to help shape the next generation. And that would be a success. Education is always a bargain relative to the costs of not doing so. So what if a bunch of those readers end up on ebay?

    6. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scheme.

      How very appropriate the choice of a word.

    7. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      This. Does anyone think this is going to help them in any way?

      The way the US treats its poor reminds me a lot of the colonialism of earlier times. Patronizing, without any real care or concern and so far detached from the real problems that one has to wonder whether they are just stupid or whether their motives ain't what they claim to be.

      Yes, it will. Some of those kids will get benefit as they wouldn't have to pay for textbooks or recreational reading. Problem is that they're looking at a reduced subset i.e. all those who have readers, registration via the school or welfare, the desire to become involved in the program etc. If the funds are not totally spent on administration (hopefully less than 50%) then someone will benefit.

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    8. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by quenda · · Score: 0

      And in our all our 'political correctness' nobody is willing to talk about the primary elements of the problem, which are kids being brought up in broken homes or no home at all with no family or community support structure. ... the vicious cycle can only be broken

      The "vicious cycle" is a myth, or at least a common assumption not backed by evidence. Numerous adoption studies show that the home environment and immediate community has only a small effect in childhood, and that fades away to zero as the child gets older. Parenting is not the problem, even though it looks that way, the science says otherwise. The real "cycle" is genetic, but that is even less politically correct.

          Poor communities in the US don't need iPads, they don't even need more books. Ownership of books is correlated, not causal, to economic success.
      What they need is things like a respectable minimum wage, affordable healthcare, child-care, policing, ...

          People who once had a reliable well-paid job on an assembly line might now be stacking shelves at Walmart and unable to afford the rent, let alone a mortgage.

         

    9. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      The real problem is the lack of social mobility. Poor people are lumped together in poor areas, have poorly funded and staffed schools where you may learn little more than what is necessary to serve your masters. Yes, every blue moon someone manages to claw his way out of it on his own... only to face the backlash of the whole "affirmative action" bullshit. Because after a wave of poorly trained people (due to poor education from understaffed, underfunded schools), everyone from the demographic will be seen as the "quota $disadvantaged_group" and treated accordingly. And self fulfilling prophecies are damn hard to beat.

      People see what happens around them. They see how Mike from next door who has always been a really bright kid did some studying outside of school because he couldn't learn a thing in the overfilled classes and he wanted to "get big" and out of the ghetto, They see how he studied late at night and made projects in his spare time, how he took every stinkin' job to get through college somehow because his parents just could not support him at all, and how he now has some cheesy nondescript title that means jack and reports to Ron who has always been sharp as a sponge and twice as smart whose only redeeming feature and whose only justification to the job is that his parents were rich enough to buy him a degree from some more reputable college. The only thing Ron is really great at is taking credit for Mike's work, and since he's his subordinate nobody questions it. And of course Mike's chance to actually climb the ladder is nil because Ron of course knows that his position is dependent on keeping Mike, and keeping him down.

      This in turn means that nobody wants to dream the American pipedream anymore. The whole "work hard, climb the ladder and you can be rich" bullshit, nobody believes it anymore! Yes, that did work a long while ago. It hasn't worked for quite a while now. The new American dream is winning the lottery. Or suing some rich guy who runs you over.

      Solving this is a lot harder, of course. With the current system, a solution is near impossible. Europe's social structure is a lot more permeable due to a bigger role of public schools (that are pretty well funded, too). Admission to universities is tied to your academic success and progress rather than your parents' wallet, and tuition fees are very affordable (running in the three digits per semester, usually). That would maybe be a first step.

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    10. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The "what" is that the majority of those readers will end up on ebay. You're dealing with people who are SO deep in debt that you can't even see their hair tips anymore. Giving them something they can easily sell means that it's sold in "never removed from box, mint condition".

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    11. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you Americans keep calling India a shithole. Ha. Look at your condition.

    12. Re: flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by kenh · · Score: 1

      Why do you think ANY of the books will be textbooks? Those are already being bought by taxpayer-funded school districts.

      Recreational reading? They can't find free ebooks on the Internet? Is Gutenberg really THAT hard to spell?

      This is a nothing program - publishers are encouraged to donate, no money allocated to buy anything.

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    13. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As parent of two adopted children, I'll take this on.

      My daughters came from an abusive home, and both parents had significant mental health issues. I recognize that genetics play a huge factor, and we can do absolutely nothing about the genetics of our adopted children. There's a good chance that they'll face some major struggles someday regardless of anything we do or don't do.

      However, nurture and culture play a non-zero role - a significant one from what I can tell - so we focus on the things we *can* change. Both children can function respectfully in social situations and have been taught empathy, responsibility, self-control, and basically all the other positive values we'd like people to have in society. They'll also have the benefit of an upper-middle-class income behind them as they move out into life.

      I recognize that nothing we've done is a guarantee of their success in life. They may both tank badly in adulthood. But it is indisputable that we've given them a better foundation than they would have otherwise. And I think that was worth doing, both for them individually and for society at large.

      Admittedly, this is only one personal anecdote, so take it for what it is worth.

    14. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Don't let the facts get in your way, but Walmart pays well above minimum wage.

      http://www.glassdoor.com/Salar...

      Raising the minimum wage will only make the problem worse. When the minimum wage goes up, there are less jobs. How far do you think McDonalds is from replacing their staff with robots? Another couple minimum wage hikes and many manual labor jobs will just disappear. Also, when minimum wage goes up, the costs for needed items rises as well quickly eating up any raises.

      What you should really be advocating for a is a basic income.

      http://theweek.com/articles/45...

      Also, forget affordable healthcare, we need to just have single payer and get it over with. We pay so much more than all the other countries for health care, without any improvement of outcomes.

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    15. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      The worst off Americans have much better conditions than the middle class in India even. Indoor plumbing, clean water, electricity, healthcare, housing.

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    16. Re: flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      My curiosity is what will they load these free ebooks onto? Is the state going to hand out Nooks to all these kids? How long before those are stolen and sold for crack money?

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    17. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      The motives ain't what they claim to be.

      We ended slavery and gave up iron chains in favor of government assistance.

      If the gov had any intention of bettering the lives of people on government aid it would do so.

      Sad thing is there are many on gov aid and many without that don't see it that way. In fact they will say it's racist to say otherwise.

      I've got zero issue with helping people, we all need a hand from time to time. I do have issue with it being a way of life for several generations, and be perfectly acceptable to some.

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    18. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Raising the minimum wage will only make the problem worse. When the minimum wage goes up, there are less jobs.

      Some people care about poor people so much, they do everything they can to make more of them...

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    19. Re: flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, more tax breaks and write offs, personal kickbacks, agenda pumping, and at the cost of taxpayers....um sorry, I mean whoever it is that prints our money for more indebtedness to the powers that be. Wake up sheople. We should all stop talking shit and take action!!!

    20. Re:flooding in 3, 2, 1 ... by george14215 · · Score: 1

      which are kids being brought up in broken homes or no home at all with no family or community support structure.

      Really? And systemic racism has *nothing* to do with the plight of young African Americans? https://www.facebook.com/brave...

  2. Do you mean.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he wants a library? how innovative. if only we had a place where we could go and look at books for free.

    1. Re: Do you mean.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let them eat e-books!

  3. already done by knightghost · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Libraries already do this. How about supporting the vanishing middle class?

    1. Re:already done by CronoCloud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here we go with the "help the middle class" again.

      By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.

      Yes the middle class is seeing it's status erode, but the poor and lower-class are having it WORSE.

    2. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here we go with the "help the middle class" again.

      By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.

      Yes the middle class is seeing it's status erode, but the poor and lower-class are having it WORSE.

      If the poor become the middle class, both the poor and middle class will be the poor! Keep them poor, someone has to be.

    3. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We wouldn't vanish as fast if they would just stop killing us in the street. Oh wait, you said middle class. Notice how we fight so much with each other to get that extra $30,000 dollars more than welfare cases so we can call ourselves middle class? Notice how kids have given up on the dream of owning their own home. Notice how today is the absolute last super final ultimatum last chance that you can sign up for obamacare? It is still cheaper to pay the fine than to get a sex change operation. Maybe we'll see bruce jenners penis go up for auction on ebay.
        Listen, don't blame me for going off the wall When I was a kid I believed in God, The japs were bad guys, and we rounded those little rat bastards up and kept an eye on them. We didn't mistreat them, homos weren't allowed in church. You weren't allowed to cheat on your wife and social security literally had so much money, they stopped counting it. Of course then they stole it all. They needed that money for companies like raytheon. Anyway this is what happens when you take people from a country that put a man on the moon and get them to believe they are middle class. Now listen to me. I want you to turn off your facebook, shut down youtube. Stand away from your computer and throw that cheap plastic phone in the trash. That device was desined to be used by foreigners, morons, not by people who landed a man on the moon! I want you to go to your window now and open it. I want you to open your window and shout - I'm a human being GODDAMMIT! Then I want you to fight. Fight them on the beaches, fight them in the cities, fight them in the mountains. Fight like you have a life worth fighting about, even if maybe you don't. And never say die.
      This bullshit stops today. That's what eric garner said right before the fascists took him out. He just wasn't middle class enough.

    4. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes the middle class is seeing it's status erode

      Only through hilarious doubletalk and politispeak.

      Politicians have sold the working class a line of bullshit, and said class happily slurps it down. But protip: If you have a mortgaged house with little equity, two leased cars, and can't afford to walk off the job and not give a fuck for several months... You are not middle class.

      Doesn't matter how much you bring home each month. Doesn't matter how big your TV is. Doesn't matter that you have the latest overpriced yoloswaggold Apple product.

      Your luxury toys that are worthless investments will never raise you from working class status.

      The middle class - people who the masses of unwashed plebs would consider "wealthy" - don't mind you guys usurping the name though. Because you're dumb and it makes you feel good and not ask the wrong questions.

    5. Re: already done by krisyan · · Score: 1

      Or just supporting libraries in general. Also, does anyone think it's a little odd that they want to provide $250 million worth of something that could be copied an infinite number of times?

    6. Re:already done by JBMcB · · Score: 2

      By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.

      So we're blowing money on e-readers when, last time I checked, libraries still exist? How about $250 million worth of more free pre-school for underprivileged kids, which has been proven to lead to better outcomes?

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    7. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's means it is.

    8. Re:already done by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      So we're blowing money on e-readers

      Do you even glance at the headline any more? It's e-books, not e-readers. You can read an e-book on practically any device with a screen, from a $30 e-reader to a cell phone or a 10 year-old computer.

      It's cheaper to buy a simple e-reader than it is to buy your average textbook, and the e-reader can hold lots of textbooks.

      Clearly we need start some sort of program to promote basic literacy for Slashdot readers. Maybe if we gave them free e-books...

      How about $250 million worth of more free pre-school for underprivileged kids, which has been proven to lead to better outcomes?

      You mean like this?

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

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    9. Re: already done by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

      Actually, the books they will be providing for the $250 million appear to be largely out of copyright already. So this is even worse than paying the publishers for copyrighted books.

    10. Re: already done by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      Actually, the books they will be providing for the $250 million appear to be largely out of copyright already. So this is even worse than paying the publishers for copyrighted books.

      Where are you getting this info? From the articles linked from the summary, it appears that the e-books are being donated by the publishers (not paid for by the government) and I didn't find any information on what books are being provided. But the articles I can find are are woefully lacking in detail.

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    11. Re:already done by JBMcB · · Score: 2

      It's e-books, not e-readers. You can read an e-book on practically any device with a screen, from a $30 e-reader to a cell phone or a 10 year-old computer.

      Same difference. There are libraries filled with books you can read for free. It's a sunk cost. What specific problem are ebooks going to solve?

      You mean like this?

      Exactly. Now take the money wasted on ebooks and fund that instead.

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    12. Re:already done by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      That would mean the poor already is middle class. Or at least, I think the government definitions of them are out of whack.

      I can obviously afford a decent car and a 55" TV for my Ivy Bridge based PC with SSD and Geforce 970, which itself gets media from a NAS with a 12TB ZFS raid. Yet according to the government definition, I've been living in poverty most of my life. I'm not sure I understand why it's called poverty when I myself am able to live comfortably that way.

      You want to see poverty? Go spend a week in the slums of Mexico City. THAT is poverty.

    13. Re: already done by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

      One of the stories mentioned that they were largely out-of-copyright books, but I can't find it again. It also follows from the fact that many of the good children's book are, in fact, out of copyright.

      What was confusing about the announcement is that Obama said "We're going to provide millions of e-books online". If this is a giveaway by the publishers, why does Obama claim that he is giving those books away too?

      The whole thing just strikes me as stupid. You can get a decent brand-name Android tablet for under $100 and access millions of free e-books on there.

    14. Re:already done by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Looks like you lost your mind AND your Return key. You might want to turn around and retrace your life to see if you can find them.

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    15. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US, poverty has a definition. It has numerical values and everything. This way we can help them. Middle class and poor do not. At all. You know why? Because then people can self-identify, and a lot of people like to be average. Also, we can argue about whether that person complaining is really poor or not, or really rich or not.

      You know what? I can go to the US Government and say that I'm rich, when I have nothing, or poor when I'm Bill Gates, and either way, I wouldn't be lying.

    16. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same difference. There are libraries filled with books you can read for free. It's a sunk cost. What specific problem are ebooks going to solve?

      For one of many reasons -- where I grew up, there were zero libraries within walking distance. It was a reasonable drive to get there. Zero bus service from where I lived either, without walking a few miles.

      Exactly. Now take the money wasted on ebooks and fund that instead.

      Money wasted on ebooks? Yes, copying text files is really expensive. How the fuck did you get modded up on Slashdot of all places?

    17. Re: already done by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Or just supporting libraries in general. Also, does anyone think it's a little odd that they want to provide $250 million worth of something that could be copied an infinite number of times?

      One of the names mentioned was HarperCollins.

      You might remember them as the yokels who wanted ebooks to "wear out" after they've been read 25 times.

      Don't expect them to support "infinite copies".

    18. Re: already done by Guy+From+V · · Score: 1

      Publishers "donating e-books", lol.

    19. Re:already done by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.

      Yes, but the problem is that the help for the poor and the lower class is coming from the middle class, instead of from the rich, who have all the money. If you help the poor and lower class at the expense of the middle class, all you're going to do is wind up with more socioeconomic stratification — i.e., just two classes, upper and lower, with an even bigger divide between them. Like pretty much everything else today, it's selling out our future for a temporary, apparent improvement.

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    20. Re: already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you.

      This has to be the most ridiculous shit I've heard in a while. Why don't they throw up a download link somewhere and air some PSAs about how to get at it? For crying out loud, it's just ones and zeros!

      Fucking stupid. I'm seeding a torrent with hundreds of science books. I have thousands of sci-fi and fantasy books I'll never have the time to read. All for free thanks to the internet!

      If the problem really is getting poor people these books, well PROBLEM FUCKING SOLVED. Just give "poor people" a license to download and join those two swarms.

      Fucking asshats all around.

    21. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here we go with the "help the middle class" again.

      By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.

      Yes the middle class is seeing it's status erode, but the poor and lower-class are having it WORSE.

      So let's define things properly. The middle class is not the group of people between the poor and the rich. The middle class is actually business owners who are generally affluent by their own means.

      The rest of us are either poor or working class. In the USA, those are the two classes that are generally taxed the most since the middle-class and rich are consider "job creators."

    22. Re:already done by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      What specific problem are ebooks going to solve?

      A publisher can donate 10,000 eBooks to a library with a few thousand square feet of floor space, but couldn't do that if the books were physical, as there would be no room.

    23. Re: already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No middle class people...I believe minimum wage these days gets you the prestigious label of below poverty line as defined by the government, I mean, CORPORATION.

    24. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can lead a horse to water ...

      If they won't utilize the libraries already existing in their communities (having worked in the L.A. county library system and been to South Central libraries), what makes you think they'll use the e-books?

    25. Re:already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you even glance at the headline any more? It's e-books, not e-readers. You can read an e-book on practically any device with a screen, from a $30 e-reader to a cell phone or a 10 year-old computer.

      Did you even read the article, retard?

      (from the article)
      According to the White House National Economic Council’s director Jeff Zients, tech giants including Apple have shown their interest in the project and have already donated over $100mn in reading devices to lower-income schools.

      Fucking sanctimonious (Google it idjit) retard.

    26. Re:already done by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      According to the White House National Economic Council’s director Jeff Zients, tech giants including Apple have shown their interest in the project and have already donated over $100mn in reading devices to lower-income schools.

      It's not the government buying ebook readers, it's Apple.

      The story is about free ebooks, knucklehead.

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  4. Divide by zero. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many ebooks in 250M worth of FREE ebooks?

  5. seriosly? Google it by cosm · · Score: 1

    $subject_desired filetype:pdf

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    1. Re:seriosly? Google it by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      s/pdf/torrent/

    2. Re:seriosly? Google it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      libgen.org

    3. Re:seriosly? Google it by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Seriously:

      Obama hopes that the e-book scheme will support low-income households who significantly trail the national average for computer ownership and digital connectivity.

    4. Re:seriosly? Google it by ezdiy · · Score: 1

      Or a 1TB+ 2003-2015 releases archive torrent for avid readers who are serious about this free ebook thing (beware: some countries may deem clicking on that link stealing millions of dollars worth of books).

      Thanks obama!

  6. books, he said books, y'all by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    we don't need no stinkin' books.

    1. Re:books, he said books, y'all by ezdiy · · Score: 1
  7. You can't grep encrypted e-books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Free' e-books will become 'affordable' e-books until they become 'rent for a limited time' e-books. Just as soon as the paper book industry shuts down from lack of demand and there are no more pesky books left that can be handed from student to student.

    I can't think of a better plan to entrench the book market in a 'rent not own' business model than to kick off the whole process with a big dose of 'free'.

  8. Australia has this by jblues · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My mom regularly borrows ebooks from the library in regional Australia. The system used is called Bolinda Borrow Box. Sounds like it works pretty well. Only epub is supported though, no no kindles.

    Meanwhile, here in Manila Hernando Guanlao, 60-something, converted his whole house into a library (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19547365), to honor his mother and father after they died. He said: "As a book care-taker, you become a full man.

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    1. Re:Australia has this by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      My mom regularly borrows ebooks from the library in regional Australia.

      My local library also has e-books, in San Jose, California. I thought all libraries had them. They even have e-readers that you can check out and use.

    2. Re:Australia has this by SonCorn · · Score: 1

      Libraries in Dallas/Fort Worth Texas also have ebooks that can be borrowed.

      It is pretty handy and very easy.

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    3. Re:Australia has this by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Many libraries have e-books available for loans. The publishers love this. They charge a fortune (somewhere near $100) for a book and with the DRM it has a limited number of loans (either 24 or 26). Once it's been loaned out that number of times the library has to buy another license for the book. The theory behind this is that each time the book is loaned out it is a lost sale. Of course this is complete BS.

    4. Re:Australia has this by jgtg32a · · Score: 1

      Wait what? Citation

      Why would a library buy a limited license?

    5. Re:Australia has this by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      I heard about it on the CBC Radio program called Spark a few years ago. Here's a link to a story from 2011. I don't know if it's still the same today or not.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/technol...

    6. Re:Australia has this by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      My small-town library has some, but not many, and most were checked out, and the pool consisted of primarily pop new releases. I found literally zero ebooks there that I was interested in when I tried to use the system the first time.

    7. Re:Australia has this by jgtg32a · · Score: 1

      Thanks I'll check it out

  9. 1984? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    That would be a good title.

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    1. Re:1984? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That probably sounded clever in your head.

  10. Selling Freezers to Eskimos by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 2

    President Obama hopes that the e-book scheme will support low-income households who significantly trail the national average for computer ownership and digital connectivity.

    So exactly what use are low-priced e-books to people who don't own computers?

    1. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was wondering. Welfare sponsored iDevices, I suppose.

    2. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      So exactly what use are low-priced e-books to people who don't own computers?

      You can get a decent computer for $20 from Goodwill. You can buy a used Kindle on eBay for about the same. Computers are common, even in poor households. They aren't luxuries anymore.

    3. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      the article talks about that.

    4. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by jblues · · Score: 1

      So exactly what use are low-priced e-books to people who don't own computers?

      You can get a decent computer for $20 from Goodwill. You can buy a used Kindle on eBay for about the same. Computers are common, even in poor households. They aren't luxuries anymore.

      Yup. I've visited a few slums in developing nations, with people living hand-to-mouth in basic conditions. But there's very often at least one large-screen cell-phone or tablet computer per household. I would certainly hope the situation is even better in the USA.

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    5. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe on their free Obama Phones

    6. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by hey! · · Score: 1

      Computers are cheap, especially if you don't need the latest and most powerful. You can get a functioning Android tablet that can work as an ebook reader for under $40. It won't be a *nice* tablet, but compared to the cost being shut out of the digital economy $40 is a reasonable investment for even a poor person. Otherwise how are you going to look for jobs, in the help wanted section of the newspaper? Are you going to buy used stuff from the print classifieds?

      There are laptop formfactor Android computers for under $100. Those probably don't make sense for more affluent users, but now you can write a resume and cover letter for an online job application. And then of course there are always other peoples computers. But it's not unreasonable for a poor person to have a computing device these days on which he can read an ebook and maybe tap out emails when there's wi-fi he can borrow. It is not some kind of absurd luxury for poor people to own an ebook capable device.

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    7. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by dl_sledding · · Score: 1

      This.

      And, fine, let's say you can buy a $20 computer from goodwill (probably running XP, just waiting to virus the place up, though I've never seen goodwill selling used computers), but what about access? Can't get to the e-book without Internet access. People living hand-to-mouth cannot afford Internet access. People living hand-to-mouth shouldn't be able to afford a cell phone either, or they technically aren't living hand-to-mouth. So, how the hell are they supposed to access the e-book with their $20 computer?

      This whole thing is a stunt. The Administration is taking credit for what a bunch of publishers are giving away (probably for hefty tax savings or something) to people who aren't going to be able to use the give-away anyhow. Unless, of course, they spend time in a library (where this would work very well), but do the libraries have the infrastructure and devices available to use in-house?

      A stunt not thought through thoroughly. And very transparent as a stunt.

    8. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ain't that a part of Obama-care???

    9. Re:Selling Freezers to Eskimos by jblues · · Score: 1

      I don't go to the USA often, but last time I was there, there was free Wifi all over the place, especially in inner-cities areas where today's urban poor live.

      And, as I said in the comment above, most people in my own country are much poorer, but even the 30% living well below the poverty line in makeshift housing have access to pre-paid 3g internet using cheap Android SmartPhones.

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  11. If they can't afford a $2 ebook . . . by Tihstae · · Score: 0

    How the heck are they going to afford the ebook reader?

    This is a great plan Obama. Bully businesses to do it since you can't get socialism officially passed through Congress . . . Yet.

    1. Re:If they can't afford a $2 ebook . . . by hey! · · Score: 1

      Ebook edition of job-hunting bible "What Color is Your Parachute": $9.99.
      McGraw Hill High School Equivalency Study Guide ebook: $17.89.
      Typical study guide for trade test (plumbing, electrical, etc): $30-$60.
      Microsoft Office for Dummies: $13.99

      Cheap Chinese 7" Android Tablet that can run ebook reading software: $35.

      For comparison, how much a family of four spends on food in a year: $7800 - $15600/yr.
      Cost of a 2 br apartment in a crummy big city neighborhood:$13000/yr.

      So, what's clear here is the cost of an ebook reader is tiny relative to other things a poor family needs, but that the cost of the books very quickly outstrips the cost of even a rather nice ebook reader like a Kindle.

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    2. Re: If they can't afford a $2 ebook . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish two bedrooms were that affordable

  12. Typical Celebrity Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Teaches those who produce nothing useful for society, to keep on doing nothing because the aid will only perpetuate in various forms throughout their lives. The brainwashed libtards keep the great welfare myth long alive and well.

  13. Kids are too lazy to find a used bookstore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kids too lazy to go find a used bookstore like what i grew up on, so we need to spend public money so they can tap a screen and get an ebook, never have to go outside for anything. Thanks Sir President Libtard Obama

  14. Oops - forgot about the important part? by javab0y · · Score: 0

    Now I wonder who thought that one up... "You get the eBook for free saving you 5.00-10.00 encouraging you to read" The fine print forgot the required iPad/Tablet/PC. Save 10.00... But spend the 500.00-3000.00 to read it. Brilliant.

    1. Re:Oops - forgot about the important part? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      A lot of Ebooks can be read on cell phones which aren't far off from small tablets. I have a niece who reads about a book a week on her phone in the time it takes to ride to and from school, waiting for things, and study hall in school or even when bored at home.

      Most of the poor can get phones- the obama phone for instance, some should be capable of reading ebooks (I know obama isn't behind the phone but that's what its called). I imagine you need an app for that and wifi from some place which is why internet access it part of the plan. I also imagine the app for that will collect location data, names and numbers and all sorts of other things like the fucking flashlight apps that need access to your files, address book, GPS and so on when installing.

    2. Re:Oops - forgot about the important part? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of Ebooks can be read on cell phones which aren't far off from small tablets. I have a niece who reads about a book a week on her phone in the time it takes to ride to and from school, waiting for things, and study hall in school or even when bored at home.

      Most of the poor can get phones- the obama phone for instance, some should be capable of reading ebooks (I know obama isn't behind the phone but that's what its called). I imagine you need an app for that and wifi from some place which is why internet access it part of the plan. I also imagine the app for that will collect location data, names and numbers and all sorts of other things like the fucking flashlight apps that need access to your files, address book, GPS and so on when installing.

      What? They get free phones now? Give them a quarter for the payphone. One free call, maybe every 6 months.

    3. Re:Oops - forgot about the important part? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Lol.. good luck finding a payphone anywhere.

      Yup, there has been free phones for about a decade or longer.

  15. Buy libraries Kindles and loan them out w/books by aaronmd · · Score: 1

    We already have libraries full of books and ebooks. If Kindles could be loaned out like books and enough copies of ebooks were available for the additional demand, we could do this with much of the infrastructure we already have. Plus, by keeping the ebooks in libraries we ensure that each book can be read by dozens or hundreds of patrons.

  16. That is nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One would think America doesn't have real problems. Oh wait, we just ignore everything and spend more money we don't have. I wonder how many of "his" friends are going get rich off this. Remember the Obama phone scam? Oh well.

  17. I suggest vocational books by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 0
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  18. Re:Schools not war zones by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, the poor are forced into substandard schools........

    The per pupil funding in Baltimore is one of the highest in the United States.

    http://articles.baltimoresun.c...

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  19. Let me rewrite the article talking out the lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leading oligarchs in the publishing industry, who faced with the possibility of having to send their kids to public schools unless they raise some serious cash have convinced the Obama administration to invest in the ebooks for disadvantaged communities program. By taking over 250 million from the dumb white middle class crackers who actually believe programs like this actually do things, they can afford to hire dozens of white middle class beurcrats who will administer this program on the behest of the disadvantaged youth. These jobs will be starter jobs for crackerz just getting into the government service racket, and are probably their first jobs after graduating ivy league colleges. THe oligarchs at the top will of coarse rake in millions. By allowing the community of government beaurcrats take care of the disadvantaged youth of America, we can assure that the dumb fucks who are working at mcdonalds, and safesway for 7.50 an hour will be able to read some government approved literature, and so will not have to find a better job, or heaven forbid open a business for themselves.

    There is no such thing as a free lunch. The only people who can help the poor people out are the poor people. Every single do good help the poor program is really just a let's pay a bunch of people with connections to the powers even more money, because they don't make enough as it is program. Best for the poor people to steal books honestly than to try to come by it via government handout. A good reading program would be to keep libraries open past 7 pm. Noo we can't do that because the big barnes and nobles stores have lobbied congress to prevent that so you have to go to their stores. It is all coruption

  20. All Hail Obama by wyattstorch516 · · Score: 1

    He is bringing relief to the poor people stuck in a book desert.

  21. crony capitalism by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Obama is giving $250 million to big publishers and some software developers so that they can deliver out-of-copyright books that "the poor" could have downloaded for free from Project Gutenberg and Google already. All Hail our Crony Capitalist in Chief.

    1. Re:crony capitalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't crony capitalist another term for fascist?

  22. So, essentially, ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... giving up on copyright protection.

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  23. TPB already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'nuff said. I read more annually than twice my income.

  24. Where did they get the $250M figure? by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now how exactly did they calculate how much the "free" ebooks were worth? (Smell the oxymoron in that?) Is this some sort of MPAA/RIAA accounting scheme where the price of an ebook is quantified by the price of a physical copy (DVD/CD)? And why focus on the so-called reputable publishers? Can't the government just hire the authors directly and have them put out Creative Commons licensed textbooks (BTW this has already been done by some independent groups)? This is like hiring the mafia to build your house.

    1. Re:Where did they get the $250M figure? by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now how exactly did they calculate how much the "free" ebooks were worth?

      The amount is calculated as a function of the number of authors and publishers the Democrat bundlers designate for the funds, multiplied by the amount each of those individuals and organizations are permitted to contribute, times the factor needed to make the contributions a small enough fraction of the total so that it can't plausibly be called a straight laundering operation.

      In the end the Clinton's hard money coffers will net somewhere between 2-3% of the total; a typical ratio for laundering public money back to politicians that know how to play the game and stay out of prison. $5-7 million, in other words. The other 97-98% go to politically favored authors and publishers who write to children primary on the topics of race, gender and sexuality grievances, climate change, diet and assorted atrocities in American history, not necessarily in that order.

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  25. You know what'd be more useful than this? by trawg · · Score: 2

    I suspect availability of good things to read isn't really the big problem here. You know, because, libraries.

    And let's not forget Project Gutenberg, over 46,000 free ebooks.

    So how about some copyright reform! Fuck, give the $250m directly to the MPAA/RIAA. Do something about the ludicrous copyright period. Imagine how many more great books would enter the public domain?!

    1. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like their counterpart, Libravox. Great for long trips. Finished Moby Dick on a trip to the Grand Canyon. It's about 24 hours worth. Caution, it is not PC by today's standards, but a very good story. Same for Hucklberry Finn.

    2. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This libraries, holy damn. As a kid, my mom would take me to the library, and I'd get physical books. Was that convenient? Hell yes. I loved every minute of it, from the smell of the library to the heft of the book in my hands.

      Other parents did too: the library was never empty. They were all middle or upper class, though, and almost universally white. Funny thing, that. When you provide free educational resources, the people who will gladly take advantage of them are not the poor whom you think need to be targeted. No, the poor are off watching TV because that's more fun to them than reading a book.

      Creating supply does not fix a problem, nor does it create demand.

    3. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "This libraries, holy damn. As a kid, my mom would take me to the library, and I'd get physical books. Was that convenient? Hell yes. I loved every minute of it, from the smell of the library to the heft of the book in my hands."

      You mean the smell of mold spores and the billions of bacteria from previous readers, who not only took it to the toilet, but also licked their thumbs before turning every single page?

      No thanks. I prefer illegally downloading a sterile copy.

    4. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean the smell of mold spores and the billions of bacteria from previous readers, who not only took it to the toilet, but also licked their thumbs before turning every single page?

      What's this obsession some people have with taking their books and/or smartphones and/or tablets to the restroom with them? Do they sit on the toilet for an extended period of time sufficient to read an article, a chapter, read an email or compose an email? Do they eat their meals on the toilet too?

    5. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you. Someone else that really loves that book-smell you find in libraries and book stores. Although I prefer book-stores, since it's that new-book smell.

    6. Re:You know what'd be more useful than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If not Copyright form, how about standardizing ebooks so that they are readable on all platforms regardless of the DRM they use (yes I hate it too, but for the sake of interoperability it would be better).

  26. Re: Schools not war zones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing stops the government from paying lost for substandard things

  27. Re:Schools not war zones by digsbo · · Score: 1

    The poor are amongst themselves, and teacher unions insist on a virtual monopoly on students and laws require schools to attempt to teach the most difficult pre-incarcerated cases. Just let these schools expel the bad kids and teach those who aren't 100% opposed to bettering themselves through education.

  28. Libraries here in Sweden by aliquis · · Score: 2

    Kinda pay full price for the e-books you borrow.

    Which kinda suck since when I borrow books in general I never read shit from them.

    I can't understand how that's supported / accepted.

    I wonder what this cost in the US.

  29. Cut the publishers out entirely by DrXym · · Score: 2

    Why doesn't the federal or local government simply commission the books it requires for its educational curriculum? Then give them away for free from a website. It shouldn't be necessary to go cap in hand to publishers begging for a few freebies when the publishers shouldn't be in such a strong position to start with.

  30. So is the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... supply $250 million worth of free e-books ...

    So is the USG giving corporate welfare for something already free? Or is the USG subsidizing a service, like they did with nationwide 3G networks? I don't see a happy ending to this. Besides, I remember a slashdot article where e-book publishers demanded a fee of $6 per library borrower. Once again, not free: That's using iShiny to get more money from governments. What happens when the money runs out, or worse, the contract expires before all the books have been read?

  31. Too little too late. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Torrenting a couple of thousand books need only half an hour or so.

  32. Re:Schools not war zones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The poor are amongst themselves, and teacher unions insist on a virtual monopoly on students and laws require schools to attempt to teach the most difficult pre-incarcerated cases. Just let these schools expel the bad kids and teach those who aren't 100% opposed to bettering themselves through education.

    You almost had it right. The schools should be allowed to expel disruptive students, hand them over to the police and court system so they can be directed to prison as a pre-emptive measure to protect society. As for the rioters in Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America, they should be identified, arrest, charged, and forced to make full restitution for the damages caused by their collective actions. Afterwards, ship them to Ethiopia with nothing more than a bed-sheet to wear. As for the "free" e-book initiative how will the students afford an e-reader or will these devices be provided for "free" and sold for drugs?

  33. Subsidy for big publishers? Political games? by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    Pardon my cynicism, but...does this make any sense at all? Or is it just about a subsidy for big publishers, plus some stupid political games?

    Provide ebooks? The problem this is supposed to solve, according to Obama, is "low-income children lag below their grade level in reading skills and lack books at home". There's a reason for that, and it isn't lack of access to books. It's parents who don't read and don't encourage reading.

    And how are they going to read those ebooks? Why...on the upgraded "Internet services for schools and libraries". You know, if you can get those kids to a library, be it a public library or a school library, you could just let them read some of the books that are already there. The thing is: you aren't going to get them into the library, because - see above - they are being raised in families and in an urban culture that doesn't value reading.

    Fix the urban culture problem. Get the parents to care about their kids education. Everything else is noise.

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    1. Re:Subsidy for big publishers? Political games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or is it just about a subsidy for big publisher

      And votes by people who think they are getting something for free.

  34. It's amazing... by kenh · · Score: 1

    How many times will politicians announce yet another initiative to bring broadband internet access to schools and libraries, especially in lower-income neighborhoods? They have been beating this drum for what, 10, 15 years now?

    I'd really like politicians to explain why programs like e-rate have failed to achieve their goals and describe how this new program addresses the problems in existing programs.

    Oh, and he's 'encouraging' publishers to 'donate' $250M worth of e-books... All Obama has done is asked for donations, nothing more - why limit the donations to $250M? Why not ask for $1BN in donated books and services?

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  35. Waste of Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are already enough free ebooks on the internet to fill up a 1000 lifetimes of reading. What a waste.

  36. Why does it have to be E-Books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have access to all kinds of technology, yet I still like the feel and smell of a real book in my hands. It's a visceral thing, I guess, but it's so much better. It's easier on the eyes, I can quickly reference different parts without losing my place, I can write notes in the margins, I can take it anywhere - even places with no power or wifi.

    And there's all kinds of books easily available for my kids at their school library, as well as the public library. If you can't get them to read books there, how is an E-Book going to help?

    Oh, so it's a kickback to publishers so they can make millions out of digital copies that they can 'print' at micro-cents on the dollar? Sorry, I misunderstood.

  37. Wait what? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    The White House has today launched an initiative encouraging top book publishers to supply $250 million worth of free e-books to low-income students.

    President Obama hopes that the e-book scheme will support low-income households who significantly trail the national average for computer ownership and digital connectivity.

    Did I miss something?

    I mean if they significantly trail national average for computer ownership and digital connectivity, then how are the books supposed to be delivered digitally or even read for that matter?

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  38. I hate the spin right from the beginning. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate the spin right from the beginning.

    $250M and "free" do not belong in the same sentence in this context.

    There is NO such thing as a free lunch and in fact somebody is paying for it.

    Such douche bags.

  39. Reminds me of free books in WWII by davidwr · · Score: 1

    From Publishers Gave Away 122,951,031 Books During World War II: And, in the process, they created a nation of readers:

    In 1943, in the middle of the Second World War, America's book publishers took an audacious gamble. They decided to sell the armed forces cheap paperbacks, shipped to units scattered around the globe. Instead of printing only the books soldiers and sailors actually wanted to read, though, publishers decided to send them the best they had to offer. Over the next four years, publishers gave away 122,951,031 copies of their most valuable titles.

    [follow title-link for the rest of the article]

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