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FBI Is Behind Mysterious Flights Over US Cities
New submitter kaizendojo sends a report from the Associated Press indicating the FBI has a small fleet of planes that fly across the U.S. carrying surveillance equipment. The planes are registered with fictitious companies to hide their association with the U.S. government. The FBI says they're only used for investigations that are "specific" and "ongoing," but they're often used without getting permission from a judge beforehand. "Some of the aircraft can also be equipped with technology that can identify thousands of people below through the cellphones they carry, even if they're not making a call or in public. Officials said that practice, which mimics cell towers and gets phones to reveal basic subscriber information, is rare." The AP identified at least 50 FBI-controlled planes, which have done over 100 flights since late April. The AP adds that they've seen the planes "orbiting large, enclosed buildings for extended periods where aerial photography would be less effective than electronic signals collection."
I'm sure Obama will stop this nonsense just as soon as he's President and Bush is out of office...
Are you sure it's the FBI and not the Stasi? I'm having more and more trouble telling them apart.
Another day closer to redwood heaven
Yes, FBI and NSA, you only use it for good, as opposed to Putin, who uses it for evil. The goodness in your heart will prevent your panopticon from being misused to fall into dictatorship, even though nothing in human history gives you confidence in that theory, and the Founding Fathers, who barely freed themselves from a much less intrusive entity, took great care to prevent government from doing what you are doing now, because they knew the flaw in allowing government any power like that was indeed the purity of your heart and your promise not to abuse.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Lucius Fox: Beautiful... unethical... dangerous. You've turned every cellphone in Gotham into a microphone.
Batman: And a high-frequency generator-receiver.
Lucius Fox: You took my sonar concept and applied it to every phone in the city. With half the city feeding you sonar, you can image all of Gotham. This is *wrong*.
Batman: I've gotta find this man, Lucius.
Lucius Fox: At what cost?
Batman: The database is null-key encrypted. It can only be accessed by one person.
Lucius Fox: This is too much power for one person.
Batman: That's why I gave it to you. Only you can use it.
Lucius Fox: Spying on 30 million people isn't part of my job description.
It's too bad we couldn't elect a president that promises transparency and who will work to end these practices...
Reform of the FBI, NSA, etc is unlikely, they just "keep doing it".
These guys are supposed to be the watchers, but who is watching the watchers? And even if someone was what can they do about it?
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
That's a big fleet of planes. Just think, one "not secret" program inside one bureau of one branch of our Federal Government controls 50 aircraft, and we're not even allow to know what this operation is called, as they smother the whole thing under shell companies.
Isn't having a giant government great? Lets give them more money and see what they do with it.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Hide their association from who, exactly? Air traffic control? It's not like you can see who registered a plane from the ground.
This statement just screams "we are breaking the rules and don't want to get caught"
This article is from Bristol, UK. They've been flying planes there for years.
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/S...
One assumes in the UK it's linked to this:
http://leaksource.info/2014/09...
but that's pure speculation.
Why hide this behind shell companies if it's all above board, authorized and legal? Oh, wait, anything that law enforcement does must be legal right? /sarcasm Wouldn't it be a more effective crime deterrent if the aircraft had large bold block letter lighted signs that said FBI on them?
Did anyone NOT think it was the FBI?
I would've guessed NSA first. Actually FBI would be my fourth, after DEA and DHS.
You were critically hit for no damage. The bruise will look nice, and maybe the scars will make good party talk.
...cause that would just be creepy.
they're flying a fleet of 50 planes, doing dragnet surveillance by spoofing cell phone towers. Okay.
When it comes to these people, benefit of the doubt is not something that should be extended.