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New Leaked Build Is Evidence That Windows 10 Will Be Ready By July 29

Ammalgam writes: A new pre-released build of Microsoft's latest Operating System Windows 10 leaked to the internet today. The build (10151) shows a more refined and significantly faster user interface than previous versions of the product. Microsoft seem to be focused on last minute refinements of the UI at this point and the product looks almost ready for prime time. A picture gallery of Windows 10 build 10151 can be found here.

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  1. I can't wait. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Literally. So I will run Linux instead. No GNUs is not good GNUs.

  2. Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that you can reserve a download of Windows 10 with a release date of July 29 isn't evidence of this already?

    1. Re:Evidence? by wolrahnaes · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't that the problem that BitTorrent solved a decade ago?

      Windows 10 actually does have P2P Windows Updates. It's limited to within a LAN so you won't be "sharing" your upstream with your neighbors, but if you have multiple Windows 10 installations on a network they'll pull already downloaded updates off of each other rather than going to the internet.

      Probably nice for those getting screwed by their ISPs.

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    2. Re:Evidence? by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's actually very easy, I've done it. It's just not something anyone does because of two factors:

      1. Desktops always look a little odd when encapsulated inside of a window. Think VLC or VirtualBox/etc.

      2. Aero isn't a touch Interface, and all web development has been going towards UIs that work well on both touch and desktop systems.

      And that latter is also why Windows 10 looks the way it does. Which is also why it looks like the web enough for you to think they're replicating what looks good on the web - they're trying to do the same thing.

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    3. Re:Evidence? by narcc · · Score: 5, Funny

      By following the simple process outlined in the "Get Windows 10" notification that magically appeared on millions of computers last month. If you run windows, you'll find it in your system tray. It's the white windows logo.

      Be warned: It's a highly technical process that involves "clicking".

  3. Uh this isn't news... by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How the hell it became news, I don't have a clue either. Microsoft said it was going to be released on July 29th, almost 28 days ago.

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    1. Re:Uh this isn't news... by heyguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm running Build 10130 right now and have run into enough issues that have made me wonder whether Microsoft would be able to make their July 29th ship date with a complete product, so I found the article to be interesting. That said, I do agree that this hardly qualifies as a news story that should be posted on slashdot.

  4. Win7 is likely to be my last Windows by ThePhilips · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The modern OSes, including Win10, as if competing who can make a bigger clusterfuck out of the UI.

    Some say it is because of the touchscreen support. But in my experience it sucks even more with the touchscreen. Unless you play movies or listen to music. Because even moderately involved browsing (say going through the bug tracking) is already rather tedious.

    At least under Linux, I can replace the UI with something user-friendly like Xfce or LXDE. Useless with touchscreen - but fully usable with the mouse and not fucked up.

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    1. Re:Win7 is likely to be my last Windows by ThePhilips · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Interfaces are dumbed down for touch UI. That's the main problem.

      Application are also getting increasingly dumber and dumber. Because from perspective of some, if you can't make feature "beautiful" for the touch UI, then there is no point in providing the feature.

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    2. Re:Win7 is likely to be my last Windows by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean like this Windows powertoy from Technet?

    3. Re:Win7 is likely to be my last Windows by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But in my experience it sucks even more with the touchscreen.

      That's nice. I'll voice the opposite opinion. Windows 8 tries to greatly improve the completely non-existent touch screen interface that exists in Windows 7. Windows 8 is borderline navigatable on touchscreen and I'm not talking about the metro UI (which is an abortion).

    4. Re:Win7 is likely to be my last Windows by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not very good.

      You can't move windows from one desktop to another, which is something I do frequently - move a pad of notes from one screen to another, move a meeting reminder with a webconf ID to the screen with my Windows VM (because the webconf software only works on Windows).

      There are other third party programs that also try to do it, but they do weird crap like remembering where windows are and moving them around.

      It's just not as developed as the Linux solutions have been for as long as I can remember - key combos to switch desktop, to switch desktop but drag the current window with your viewpoint, to place a window on all desktops, etc. I'll be interested to see what the Windows 10 implementation is like, but Windows 10 will likely remain just my "gaming" OS with my real work done on Linux.

  5. Re:It find it more amazing by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't like Windows 8.1, but I have yet to hear anyone say that Windows 10 actually fixes any of the things I don't like about it.

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  6. 'Leak' ? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Windows Insider builds are available to anyone who can be bothered signing up to the program. The only 'leak' here is if publishing screenshots constitutes a breach of the EULA.

    MS releases an updated beta. *yawn*

  7. Re:Wow gorgeous by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know, Windows 10 looks rather 80s to me. It certainly doesn't look modern.

    You don't understand. "Modern" is the new marketing buzzword which actually means "we're recycling a bunch of old shit from 20 years ago and calling it new". For example, the Recycle Bin icon in Windows 10, after being changed 3 times over the past several months, now looks like something straight out of Windows 95.

  8. Design by Fisher-Price? by hyades1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Having taken a look at the screenshots, I can't help but think of words like "garish", "cartoonish" and "Oh, dear, it looks like Rainbow Brite puked all over the screen".

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  9. Re:Wow gorgeous by alexhs · · Score: 4, Funny

    You have to admit, Windows 2.0 benefits greatly from HD displays and millions of colours.
    At the time of its initial release, you barely had 16 colours for the whole screen, and you had to convey information with them.
    Nowadays, you can have 16 distinct shades of grey, none of which gives you the slightest clue about if some UI element is actually click-able/tap-able or not, but man, aren't these fonts gorgeous ?

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  10. Re:It find it more amazing by Walter+White · · Score: 3, Informative

    IANAWE. I had a need to run Windows on something to develop a test TCP/IP server using VS/C#. It wasn't exactly a production system and I had SWMBO's Win7 PC to fall back on so I put Win10 preview on a new laptop and used it. VS 2013 works fine and I would expect that to be among the first programs they tested. I've also used a couple IDEs for embedded targets (Keil, PSoC creator) and they work fine on Win10 even when Win10 is running in a VMWare VM. The only thing I have seen not work is mounting host drives from the VM. I also see a null pointer exception for explorer.exe on shutdown for the most recent release.

    The charms bar that pops up on the left if I ever get the pointer close to that edge is gone - Yay!
    I can search the task menu with one click - Yay!
    The propensity for built in apps to take over the whole screen and with NO option to minimize seems to be gone - double Yay!

    And decades after other OSs have figured out how to manage multiple desktops, Win10 manages multiple desktops.

    OTOH, Win10 still figures out ways to reboot w/out explicit permission from me. That has not been fixed. Would it be so hard to pop up a dialog box following an update that asks permission? There are times I've been in the middle of something but away from the PC and it restarts because I'm not there to stop it. That is incredibly rude and stupid beyond belief and yet Microsoft deems us not worthy to make that decision.

    For my purposes Win10 is an improvement over 8.1 but not enough so to draw me away from Linux.

  11. Re:Wow gorgeous by WallyL · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nowadays, you can have 16 distinct shades of grey

    I want no fewer than 50, before I upgrade, thanks.