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Chinese Consumers Can Now Buy Formerly Banned Consoles, Nationwide

PC Magazine reports that China has entered a new phase in its liberalization of game console sales. Restrictions amounting to a nationwide ban were loosened recently, so that manufacturers which produced (and sold) consoles in Shanghai's free trade zone were allowed to also sell their wares elsewhere in China. The newest change is to remove that geographic requirement, so Chinese buyers are expected to be able to buy whatever consoles they'd like. Games to play on those consoles, though, are a different story.

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  1. But the games? Yeah... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    Did you see the restrictions on game content? It's broad enough to mean "anything we don't want to allow is banned."

    * Gambling-related content or game features
    * Anything that violates China’s constitution
    * Anything that threatens China’s national unity, sovereignty, or territorial integrity.
    * Anything that harms the nation’s reputation, security, or interests.
    * Anything that instigates racial/ethnic hatred, or harms ethnic traditions and cultures.
    * Anything that violates China’s policy on religion by promoting cults or superstitions.
    * Anything that promotes or incites obscenity, drug use, violence, or gambling.
    * Anything that harms public ethics or China’s culture and traditions.
    * Anything that insults, slanders, or violates the rights of others.
    * Other content that violates the law

    The old men that run the government still believe that console games are meant exclusively for children - or at least adults who need to be "protected from dangerous ideas" as though they were children. This is no different than what many of our own legislatures and citizen activists wished to impose on us... "for the children", of course, but fortunately, saner heads prevailed.

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  2. Prediction by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Modern Warfare and Command & Conquer: Red Alert will probably not be approved for sale in China.

    I was going to add Sleeping Dogs to the list, but I hold out hope that "Why don't you have a pork bun in your hand?" will someday become as important a cultural touchstone in China as it has become in the West.

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    1. Re:Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      heh...Sleeping Dogs ..heheh.. China...

      Dogs better sleep with one eye open

    2. Re:Prediction by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      I figured they'd love "China will grow larger."

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  3. Re:But the games? Yeah... by tepples · · Score: 1

    the Chinese are great at pirating software. Hardware was the real hurdle.

    If you know what a "Famiclone" is, you might see why it's not too much of a hurdle.

  4. Re:But the games? Yeah... by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    "We have to respect their laws while selling our products on their territory? HOW DARE THEY?"

  5. grab them by the hardware by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    and their software will follow.

  6. A VPN and a HDD by Anonymous_Coward_No1 · · Score: 1

    That is probably all they're going to need to get most games available now as digital titles.

  7. Re:But the games? Yeah... by stms · · Score: 1

    There's a solution to that. Big AAA game will start to be censored for China once the Chinese become a major consumers of console games. That may mean in some circumstances the rest of the world will get censored versions as well. It may also mean we get a more interesting variety of games as not every AAA game will need to be a power fantasy for white 20 somethings.

  8. Re:But the games? Yeah... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    The Famicom couldn't be emulated back when it was released, personal computer were running at around 20MHz back then.

  9. Re:But the games? Yeah... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    I wish the US government would stand up to the people and tell them "NO!" when something is clearly bad for them, instead of pandering and vote-grabbing. A lot of people in this world think China's curated system is better. The people in their government are educated scientists and engineers, and they can concentrate on doing the right thing instead of constantly running for office.

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  10. Re:But the games? Yeah... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    A Famiclone is a Famicom clone and the Famicom is a 29 years-old system.

  11. Re:But the games? Yeah... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

    The people in their government are politicians and bureaucrats, just like anywhere else, and corruption is rampant throughout all levels of their government.

    "Curated system" is a really cute way of saying "your betters will decide the important things for you". No thanks. I don't need a little red book or my "betters" telling me how to think.

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  12. Reality on the ground.... by Rick+in+China · · Score: 3, Informative

    The reality of gaming in China is this:

    The domestic version of the consoles is restrictive, actually, especially for foreigners in China in many cases. The domestic version of the PS4, for example, will only work with a Chinese playstation store ID - so you can't log in to your overseas-created ID from the Chinese console.

    That being said, in China - now, as before, as always, you can very easily purchase whichever console you choose from graymarket shops. By gray market I mean fully legally functioning and not hiding anything shops (in Chengdu typically found on the 4th floor of the 'computer city' malls), often legally imported (illegally only if they were brought in without paying import taxes), from a variety of countries. In China, typically it means HK or Japanese models of the consoles and associated games. The shop I get my games from often has US versions of the games also, which I by far prefer because it lets me use the bonus content with my Canadian account.

    Consoles and games were only really 'banned' from legitimate channels of mass market entry - never illegal in the sense they weren't allowed to be sold or owned or played, that's a notion that many people overseas simply don't understand when they read articles like this, which are a little bit misleading.

    Oh, also, the piracy aspect of all consoles is equally gray market - each of those shops will mod any console they sell and let you transfer games from their game library upon purchase, or bring your HD in for a bunch of transfers, at the cost of about $1usd/game....banned, pfft.

    1. Re:Reality on the ground.... by dk20 · · Score: 1

      If you read slashdot often you probably see the 'negative bias' towards china.

      I'd say 99% of those posting here have never been and are just quoting something they heard. Further, of those who do post, i'd even venture to say a lot of them dont even own a passport.

      Posted by a fellow Canadian who happens to own property in China.

  13. Which is why you just go PC by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    The only console that makes any sense is the Nintendo products.

    The PS4 and the XboxOne are just limited PCs. There's no reason to own one besides caving to corporate hostage taking techniques and ignorance.

    http://static1.gamespot.com/up...

    http://i.imgur.com/7ezaq7w.png

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    1. Re:Which is why you just go PC by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      The PS4 and the XboxOne are just limited PCs. There's no reason to own one besides caving to corporate hostage taking techniques and ignorance.

      Sure there's a reason. Gaming without Microsoft/Windows, at least if you go Sony or Nintendo. There's also the console exclusive games that have never had a PC release. And the consoles are designed specifically for gaming, you don't have to worry about AVG or whatever deciding it wants to run a scan when you're playing, you don't have to worry about the OS monitoring a print spooler, and all the other things Windows does that isn't gaming.

      Console gaming is gaming without the hassle.

      Besides, PC gamers only "think" they are the master race. PC gamers are actually the cheapskate piracy lovin bourgeois scum of gaming. Filthy PC gamers right there at the bottom with phone gamers and those filthy dudebro console gamers who only play shooters and sports games

    2. Re:Which is why you just go PC by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      And what is your problem with gaming with windows that isn't 1000 times worse on Sony?

      And as to exclusives, those are just games that are arbitarily held hostage by corporations. Rewarding the corps for holding games hostage makes you a dupe.

      As to PC gamers being a master race... sales on the PC equal that of any of the consoles. As to paying less... you're right... we do... we're less stupid.

      We also have more control over our platform. We have mods. We don't have to pay for multiplayer like complete fucktards. I can't believe you console nitwits pay for MP. That's fucking hilarious.

      And don't get me started on you shitty interface. And its so sad... because you want to be the PC so badly. You keep lusting after shooters that don't work properly on you consoles because you're using the wrong interface. And you keep trying to look like the PC with your graphics even though you fail because your hardware is always outdated by the time it hits stores.

      You endlessly talk about how much better console X looks than console Y... but then your betters point out that both you shitty consoles look worse than the PC you say that graphics don't matter.

      The only console worth buying are the nintendo ones. The sony and MS consoles are stupid machines for stupid people.

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    3. Re:Which is why you just go PC by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      And what is your problem with gaming with windows that isn't 1000 times worse on Sony?

      Microsoft IS worse than Sony, always has been. Some divisions of Sony might have a "minor" in evil, but Microsoft has a Double-major in evil, a Minor in evil and is professional chair throwing extend embrace extinguish brand evil.

      And as to exclusives, those are just games that are arbitarily held hostage by corporations.

      So PC centric developers are holding games hostage as well, right?

      As to paying less... you're right... we do... we're less stupid.

      You don't pay less, you "spend" less, there's a difference. PC gaming is some Ian in the UK or Ivan in Russia spending all his quid or rubles on a PC, and then pirating all his stuff instead of paying less for hardware and then having money for games.

      Or you have the guys playing nothing but one map in something like CS/LoL over and over and over and then BRAGGING that they don't buy games.

      And then some people wondering why the PC release of multi-platform releases is an afterthought.

      Here, let me give you an anecdote, do you know how Gaijin the developers of war thunder finish funding that game's development? They did a console game that was basically a pre-test of War Thunder:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      They openly said that without that game, there would have been no War Thunder.

      We also have more control over our platform.

      That's right you do, but it leads to:

      We have mods.

      Mods exist because BRICers and Second Worlders are too cheap to buy games. Gamers who play nothing but free mods are why the PC is an afterthought. Sure there may be a few patches as well, but mods are the favorite of gamers who care more about free-as-in-beer than anything else.

      We don't have to pay for multiplayer like complete fucktards. I can't believe you console nitwits pay for MP. That's fucking hilarious.

      Servers are a continuing expense that cost money to run don't they? PC gamers pay for WoW or EVE subscriptions, right? So they're idiots too because all games should have free multiplayer? PS+ isn't just multiplayer, there are other benefits as well, besides, it's less than one game a year. $49.95. Yeah yeah, spend $$$ on an overpriced video card but $49.95 a year is too much to help pay for server costs.

      You keep lusting after shooters that don't work properly on you consoles because you're using the wrong interface.

      What interface is that? Who gets to say an interface is wrong? Isn't choice of UI a good thing? Some people might prefer a certain UI some might prefer something different. After all there are mods that change the UI in PC games, isn't there? And if it's controls that you're actually referring to, who says I can't use different controls?

      You endlessly talk about how much better console X looks than console Y...

      I don't do that, only idiot shooter and sports game only dudebro gamers do that.

      The sony and MS consoles are stupid machines for stupid people.

      While I wouldn't say that Windows is an OS for stupid people. I do think that just because one can game on a badly designed general purpose OS like Windows...doesn't mean one should.

    4. Re:Which is why you just go PC by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      1. explain why gaming on windows is compromised in any way by something MS did in any meaningful way?

      2. PC developers are not paid to keep their titles exclusive to a console. The console makers pay the console game makers to keep their games exclusive. There is no parity.

      3. No, we actually pay less. You can buy a full blow PC that is better than the consoles for 400 dollars. There are build videos of people doing it all over youtube. Consoles are inferior. And that's okay so long as you know it. But if you don't know it, then you're an ignorant person playing an inferior machine.

      4. As to piracy, the PC gaming market has thrived for ages and quite a few PC game devs openly laugh at the console devs that can't get people in the PC world to actually pay for their games. There are a lot of articles where PC devs explain what is going on. You either get it or you don't. And that's fine. Remain a console peasant.

      5. As to mods only existing because PC gamers are cheap... You really are an ignorant little monkey. Skyrim without mods is a shitty game. With mods it is pretty f'ing awesome. I pity you.

      I also like that you continue to cite that your over paying for games and inability to control your experience is a mark of sophistication. You're basically bragging about the chains around your neck and telling me about how wide your ass hole got spread the last time sony fucked you.

      6. PC gamers have never had to pay for servers with the exception of the MMOs. And only the subscription MMOs at that... most PC MMOs are moving to a free model there as well.

      We wear no chains. That is why we don't pay. You do. And you're so deluded that you've been taught to love your chains.

      The PC ports of all the games you love that have MP... we don't pay for the servers there either. We do not pay for MP.

      7. As to interface being right or wrong... this was proven actually when MS put PC Halo players against Xbox Halo players. The console halo players got skull fucked. And you'll note that console MP tends to be segregated from PC MP even if the game is on both platforms. Why is that? Because you silly fucks are meat. The best console first person shooter players would get torn up by average PC first shooter players simply because the interface on the console is garbage for first person shooters.

      8. As to you not bragging about the graphics, then play nintendo. Its the only console maker that knows what it is... the PS and the Xbox both sell themselves as cut down PCs. The Nintendo product line knows it is a console and doesn't try to scalp games from the PC market.

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  14. Re:But the games? Yeah... by tepples · · Score: 1

    Famiclones appeared prior to 1997 when NESticle became usable.

  15. Right... by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

    The laws never really stopped them in the past from playing, so nothing's really going to stop them now... I'm more interested in how these laws will affect the black market.