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Do We Need More Emojis?
mikejuk writes to note that the Unicode Consortium has accepted 38 new emoji characters as candidates for Unicode 9.0, including characters depicting bacon and a duck."Why could we possibly need a duck? Many of the new characters are the 'other half' of gender-matched pairs, so the Dancer emoji (which is usually rendered as Apple's salsa dancing woman) gets a Man Dancing emoji, who frankly looks like a cross between John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever and your dad at the wedding disco. ... Other additions include carrot, cucumber, and avocado, and bacon. ... The list of additions is rounded off with new animal emojis. Some are the 'missing' zodiac symbols (lion and crab). Others are as baffling as ever – is there *really* a demand for a mallard duck? Sorry: it's in fact a drake!
the long slow death of literacy could not possibly be harmed by more emjois.
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According to Betteridge's law of headlines: No.
We got enough glyphs -- we don't need a fucking symbol for every idea / concept / etc.
How else are we going to transition back to ancient Egyptian if we don't have enough pictograms...
Who proposed the emojis? Someone must want them.
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"Other additions include carrot, cucumber, and avocado"
can't we be honest and just put a long skinny dick, a thick dick, and a stubby thick dick, so that people don't have to use vegetable analogues?
otoh, this way we can text shopping lists and sexual encounters/anxieties with the same symbols, so i guess it makes some sense.
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you know what's scary, drake penises
At least they should try to come with "thematically complete" sets!
We already got a burger emoji and fries emoji... where is the soda emoji? Instead they give us redundant single/double beers emojis.
We also got a bike emoji and surf emoji, but no skate emoji. Instead you have redundant snowboard and an ski-set emojis.
Some things that usually go together are sorely missing... some other are complete bonkers.
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Everyone knows the way to check to see if a woman is a witch, is to weigh her vs. a duck. Well, Kings know it, not sure about the peasants.
Instead of trying to create a unique set of symbols "one size fits all", why either not include the entire 50x50 pixmap (or vector graphics) for every symbol? Or alternately each IM service create their own repo for all users into which they can update symbols and then use them by a short UID reference? Is the band width saving by using a "fixed dictionary" of predefined symbols really worth it? In any case API compression and aggressive caching could reduce to a minimum the additional bandwidth for sending the entire pixmap. I'd like to use an inline image of our cat when chatting with my family. None of the current IM services that I know of support that.
To me it seems like the Unicode Consortium is just trying to "justify" their continued existence, as the main job they set out to do was finished several years ago.
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I see a link for "Unicode 9.0" but it doesn't go anywhere, and clicking on it does nothing (even though my cursor changes to correct for hovering over a link). What kind of crap is this?
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I suggest just getting it over with and making one emoji for every Chinese character. We can then smoothly transition to writing in pure emoji.
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Some of you guys are complaining about bacon? What is wrong with you people?
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These patriarchist nazis really chose a male duck for the duck emoji! I demand them to add a female duck as well, and a gender undecided duck with male and female attributes!
Do we need Emojis?
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No, we don't. They are not any more effective or accurate way of communication than typing.
Why am i the only one complaining about this? I want just a simple smiling face, not a blushing smiley ðYS or an "angelic" smiley ðY.
Isn't the smiling face :) the first unofficial emoji that spawned the other emojis? Why leave it out now?
Batman emoji is the one I'd use the most. Surprised it wasn't isn't the original set.
Wrong country, but you're AC so you probably already knew that.
We need unicode symbols for whatever people want to express. Otherwise sites will use clip-art or other proprietary things.
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Definitly not , emojis are for s7up1d ppl
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Emoji 2: moderate rage about Emojis
Emoji 3: oncoming rage about Emojis
Emoji 4: pure bafflement preceding rage about Emojis
Bandwidth is cheap enough to send the entire glyph each time it is used.
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This guy still can't write his own name correctly.
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Emoji needs more cowbell.
Emojis are supposed to be fun, don't suck the fun out of them by taking them so seriously.
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Emoji are fantastic as idiot detectors. If a person uses emoji at all, you can safely assume that person is an idiot.
That ought to make them think twice about adding more, or at least shut the fuck up.
After reading about this concern over emoji, I decided to go look it up to see what it is. Apparently, it is little cartoon icons, possibly animated, that people slip into their online conversations. Other than auto-changing of some popular emoticons to emoji, I have never used them. Don't care, next story.
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It wasn't so very long ago when the geek was drawn to to the creation of intricate typographic art (aka ASCII art) and emotions.
The central idea of using of letters, numbers and symbols, dots and dashes, bits and bytes, to send simple cartoons or more complex and engaging images over low bandwidth connections is, after all, at least as old as the telegraph.
But it seems forbidden to build a full, working, global vocabulary of images at higher resolution --- in both black & white and color --- and drawing on sources from outside the geek community. The western geek community and the US, specifically.
Should read: do we need emojis?
Answer: no.
Alternatively, let's just get it over with and replaced all written language with a simple grunt sign.
Each automatically generated from the binary pattern of their Unicode value.
This will be a boon to Duck Bacon producers everywhere!
Sticking with 7-bit-clean ASCII until the end of time.
In other words, the "eXtensible Emoji Protocol" (or XEP) that I keep joking about around the office :-)
The problem with emoji is that there are so many, but not enough to cover every possible symbol someone might want to send. As such, people see the gaps a bit too easily, and are constantly demanding "just one my symbol." (Not to mention that most people don't realize they're part of a universal standard, and not something each individual IM service decided to include/exclude.)
Eventually, you'll either wind up with an unmanageable bazillion emoji (rather than just hundreds), or there will be a backlash where we reduce to a minimum set necessary to represent all possible concepts. (Hey, isn't that called an alphabet?)
Why a duck?
Along with the new characters, I heard there will be a new encoding standard as well. It will be called (wait for it...) Double UTF.
The terminology for upper and lower case didn't even exist before the printing press was reinvented in Europe, certainly there were bicameral scripts, but they were not called as such. Besides, letter case has always been a matter of convention rather than strictly tied to correct use of a language. And those conventions tend to shift over time.
I never saw much sense in mixing majuscule and minuscule scripts to denote proper nouns or the start of a sentence. It's not particularly natural as I would not normally modify my speech in places where we would normally change letter case. Perhaps the start of a sentence, but it seems that the full stop and other punctuation is far more influential on how one might speak a written text.
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Ok, I'll admit I'm not 16 anymore, but I'm not 60 either and I wonder WTF does the Unicode Consortium have to do with stupid smileys?????
This is one of the "don't they have more important things to worry about" moments. But more importantly, this is utter crap and doesn't belong into a fucking fontset. You want to have dancing teddy bears and cups of coffee and stuff, fine, make your own icon font, nobody stops you.
Until this post I didn't even realize that this crap is now official Unicode, and I still can't believe it. Solution looking for a problem, yes?
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That feels so 1990's. I like the face palm girl though.
They should add a female duck too.
And then the other species of ducks will want to be represented.
Some emoji (which everyone in my country calls smileys) may be too much emotional, and if they're Unicode instead of proprietary they will show up differently in the two ends of a conversation if the software is not the same.
Not that I use IM anymore though : MSN was proprietary and insecure, but you could at least use it with different clients. It's been replaced by the giant asocial media company and by Skype. Cell phone service for non "data" has crashed in price compared to a decade ago too.
We really needed them? as in:
"This post may cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars to distribute around the world. Are you sure you want to do that?"
In those days we invented all sorts of stupid initialisms to reduce message sizes. Just think how emojis could have helped. Remember, "a picture is worth 4k bytes"
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The purpose of writing is to convey information. If you can convey the same information using less information, it is a win in my opinion. "I'm having [emoji duck here] for dinner" is quite fine.
No, wait, I hate the Drake!
Yes, we do.
Because there are still lots of words left that don't have an emojii yet. And without emojii they would be lost forever, like tears in the reain, when we finally reach the state of "Idiocracy"
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I guess it would depend on what the fuck an emoji is and what the fuck you use it for.
The kisses I send from my messenger look way cuter than the one my girlfriend receives on hers. ... I'm not even joking.
I don't think we need more emoji, if literacy isn't supposed to go down the drain, but an international standardised set would help a lot.
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Hasn't that already been done?
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Do we need more objects to describe how we can suck dick for coke?
are you all that lack-lustre?
How old are these people? Any of them highschool grads yet?
Not enough. We need UHD video emoji, uncompressed for maximum fidelity. Multiple fibers to every home to handle the bandwidth.
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Ass riding cowboy animated emoji.
Emoji brutally killing other emojis emoji.
Teabagging emoji.
whats worse, i bet none of this conversation gets any modpoints..
Slashdot should be fixing their bugs, not us working around them.
If we move from Slashdot to a site whose developers have fixed Slashdot's bugs, does that count as "working around them"?
This is /. or dice or crap i dont know who's bought them now. What are your expectations? Seriously?
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I think emojis are entertaining. Do we NEED more? No. Will new emojis be used? Yes. Do we NEED optimized fab processes for processors? No. Will we benefit fr optimized fab processes? Yes. Do we NEED bacon? No. Do we love and enjoy delicious bacon? Yes.
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This was pretty much the definitive list of what later became known as Emojis - The Unofficial Smilie Face Glossary. Even this was excessive and most weren't used besides :-) or >:-). Later on, most people dropped the nose, resulting in :) . As technology became more mainstream, for some reason some dumbasses thought it would be cool to have graphical smilies replace what people had created as an artistic expression using standard ascii, and in some cases upper-ascii and even ANSi on BBSes. BBSers used to customize smilies to try and stay away from the current "mainstream"... Perhaps they thought conveying emotions with smilies had become too standardized and didn't reflect them as an individual. Favorites of mine were :>, =), and most recently =} , all of which somehow get eaten up by my phone and turned into graphical pieces of garbage. I just want my smilies. That's it. Now get off my damn lawn.
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You mean an idiot? Instead of expecting people to exercise their language skills, we're just enabling stupid people to be more stupid...Emoji are stupid, and people who use them are stupid by extension....
The intellectual play of combining words and pictures is centuries if not millennia old and really needs no defense. Rebus
systemd can absorb emojis and solve the ambiguity problem
Why do we need Bacon? Thhe Obession with that is just an American fad due to lack of real beer , real cheese any real food etc.
No, but we do need to make a decision about the plural of emoji.
I'm a duck farmer you insensitive clod.
...However the concept did...
Did I not say: "certainly there were bicameral scripts"
I never saw much sense in referring to things that don't pee, either standing or sitting, as "he" or "she". But I doubt the French and Italians will invent a neuter gender for my convenience.
Where are you going with the fallacious hyperbole?
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we need more emojis! i want at least 100k emojis, seriously, so whenever i want to send a picture instead of a word, i have a picture. obiously searchable, by text and voice command. and i want the emoji code to give us a standard emoji set, and, like fonts themselves, variants. i want the emoji equivalent of Comic Book, where all the emojis look more comical, and times new roman, where they are less comical. and bold, italic equivalents. right now the art style of emojis is horrible and limiting. imagine being able to use 19th century style engraving emojis, or egyptian hieroglyphs, or chinese tortoise shell scratchings, or mayan glyphs, or edward gorey inspired emojis?
Cricket, that's why.
I'm still hanging for at least 1 bearded happy face icon. Dont care if it's yellow or green. The repression of men must end ;)
I need an emoji for the word / concept emoji.
I need an emoji for the word /concept emoji. Not joking.
Idea: Encode Smileys in Text :) is a smiley or only :-) is one. :smile: or a simliar encoding. This will remove the need for complicated unicode handling (did you read the section about composing i.e. colors and smileys?). And while we're at this: Why does a smily need a skin color? Smileys are yellow.
Realization: Display an image instead of rendering a glyph.
Okay. Like different fonts, now everybody can have different smileys, but with a standard for codepoints. no questions anymore, if
Now different vendors implemented the smileys in totally different ways (apple rendering a yellow heart (btw. WTF), android a hairy heart (even more WTF)).
Next: The big apps like whatsapp bringt their own (or a apple clone) set of emojis.
So we can get back to application specific smileys with