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Australian Police Get McLaren and Aston Martin Supercars

An anonymous reader writes: Australia's New South Wales police department has added a pair of new cars to their fleet that are going to be very hard to outrun, a McLaren 650S and an Aston Martin Vanquish Volante. The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police. "These sponsorship arrangements are designed to promote community engagement with NSW Police. This agreement is designed to promote tomorrow's Police Legacy Wall to Wall ride and celebrate 100 years of Women in Policing," a police spokesperson said in a statement.

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  1. How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to raise more than the cost of the two cars?

    1. Re:How long will it take by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since it's a sponsorship, they don't cost anything.

      In the past, the NSW Police have had an Audi RS4 and a Porsche Panamera donated to them. With these arrangements the car manufacturer foots all the costs, included servicing and registration, with the police force responsible for only the fuel.

    2. Re:How long will it take by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given that they were donated at no cost, precisely zero seconds.

      It's still stupid, but no, they didn't pay for them.

      That said, we keep seeing the stereotype that the key ability to successful police enforcement is to be able to drive faster than the criminals. Which is nonsense. The strength of the police force versus criminals is that there's a million of them, pre-scattered across the country, and they communicate with each other in realtime. You don't have to catch up with the fleeing perp, you're already past them - or at least, another officer is. You just need to not lose them (aka, a helicopter, or better, a drone; things like StarChase help too) and keep the net around them tight enough that you can nab them if they stop (which has to happen eventually), but not so tight that they feel the need to drive like a maniac and endanger the public. Heck, you can even make them stop in a place where they're no threat to the public, such as spike strips on a closed road or the like. But you never need to have car chases through busy public areas - at least not for more than a brief initial period. It's pointless.

      There's a interesting statistics on the topic here. 91% of police chases are over non-violent crime. 233 suspects and their passengers (some of them innocent) die in police chases every year in the US, as well as 87 innocent bystanders and 3 police officers - more than the number killed by floods, tornadoes, lightning and hurricanes combined. 42% of police chases were over nothing more than simple traffic infractions. 15% were for suspected drunk driving - which just adds even more danger to bystanders.

      Police chases make great TV, but usually they're hardly worth the risk unless there's a serious danger of A) losing the suspect, and B) the suspect committing a violent crime after being lost.

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    3. Re:How long will it take by BlacKSacrificE · · Score: 3, Informative
      Nice rant. Just think how good your life would be if you could get your comprehension skills to that level.

      The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police

      The vehicles are a flash way to promote a charitable cause, and a bridge between petrol heads and police, nothing more.

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    4. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. You shut him up. Nice job.

    5. Re:How long will it take by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Please don't bring your US statistics into Australian law enforcement. There's differences:

      a) Police chases aren't televised live, and the last time a news helicopter was used in a police chase they were too busy relaying information between two different states who used different and incompatible radio systems, we got some occasional updates on the radios of which areas to avoid but for the most part all we saw was 5 seconds of footage in the nightly news.
      b) Guidelines for police departments all over Australia are to abort police chases at speeds that pretty much every car on the road can already reach, no need for a supercar.
      c) Most police chases in Australia has resulted in attempted disciplinary action against the police for public endangerment. As a result car chases here are actually quite rare.

    6. Re:How long will it take by Harlequin80 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Add on to this that Australian police forces haven't gone full paramilitary like the US has. The chances of having a gun pulled on you by a random member of the public here is incredibly small so the coppers aren't permanently scared.

      If you want to see the difference watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?... - This is a video of police in Brisbane, a major capital city, accepting a dance challenge outside a pub while on security detail for the recent G20.

    7. Re: How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoyed his diversionary quip aside from the bad semantics.

    8. Re:How long will it take by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That doesn't make what he said any less true. Nowhere did he say that these cars would be used on the job. It still maintains the illusion that speedy cars is what it takes to handle someone driving a vehicle that tries to elude police. Someone else in the thread pointed out that the illusion is better maintained in the US, but that does not make this instance not something that maintains the illusion.

    9. Re:How long will it take by delt0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also as a result of not shooting everyone in the face, the police in NZ/AUS are generally not hated. It makes a pretty big difference. Where in the US the feeling is that they are out to get you. And my own experience is that they probably are [in the US].

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    10. Re:How long will it take by tompaulco · · Score: 1, Funny

      Also as a result of not shooting everyone in the face, the police in NZ/AUS are generally not hated. It makes a pretty big difference. Where in the US the feeling is that they are out to get you. And my own experience is that they probably are [in the US].

      The concern that police are out to get you in the U.S. is not due to police shooting everybody in the face. I personally have lived here 45 years and have never been shot in the face by a policeman. I am much more concerned about getting shot in the face by a criminal than by a policeman. The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals. Even so, the number of criminals that are killed by police in a given year compared to the number of total arrests is meaninglessly small. However, every time it happens, the media makes such a big deal about it that everybody starts hating the cops and apparently people as far away as Australia are led to believe that the chances of being killed by a cop are on the order of the same as the chances of winning the lottery. If you are not a criminal, your chances of being killed by a cop are much lower than your chances of winning the lottery.

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    11. Re:How long will it take by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Since they were donated I'm sure that they will immediately sell them and give all the proceeds to the families of fallen officers.

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    12. Re:How long will it take by delt0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Clearly you are white.

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    13. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..or maybe he's just not an asshole with an attitude to authority, or a crook that tries to make excuses and play the victim card. People who cooperate generally don't get hurt.

    14. Re:How long will it take by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      a bridge between petrol heads and police

      Spot on, in fact there's a fair number of responsible petrol heads amongst the NSW highway patrol, and they have been in their ranks for a couple of generations now. IMO they're "eating their own dog food" and genuinely trying to set a good example for the bogans to follow.

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    15. Re:How long will it take by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      "That doesn't make what he said any less true."
      Just off topic.

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    16. Re:How long will it take by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Clearly you are white.

      White people occasionally get shot by police, as well, thought it is about as rare as black people getting shot, and is in equal proportion to the percentage of crimes committed by race. However, when white people get shot, it doesn't make the news, and nobody riots or burns businesses, because, just like when blacks are shot, the person was usually a criminal, and we understand that being a criminal is a dangerous profession that may end in you getting hurt or killed.

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    17. Re:How long will it take by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Yep, dangerous hoons do not become famous Oz, and rarely are they able to bait cops into doing something stupid. In my state they have their supercars crushed in front of the local media, they don't have to watch, and rarely do. It's a 'cultural' norm that was fostered by a science based bi-partisan approach to the road toll that started way back in the 70's. In Victoria the toll is numerically ~1/10th of what it was in 1970, yet an order of magnitude more cars are on the road.

      Disclaimer: Aussie driver's license 1978-2015.

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    18. Re:How long will it take by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.

      Nice troll!

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    19. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      For the most part, police chases aren't televised here either, live or otherwise. There's maybe a snippet of the end of it, but not much. Televising police chases is more of a thing you see in movies, but not much in real life.

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    20. Re:How long will it take by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.

      Shy should criminals fear getting shot? If they are armed then that's one thing but lots of criminals are unarmed. There's usually no reason for police to ever point a gun at you if you're unarmed and not threatening.

    21. Re:How long will it take by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You do realize that all of those who have been shot recently were committing crimes at the time right?

      Yep, even the 12 year old black kid that was shot was committing a crime. He removed the orange tip from a realistic looking toy gun, then was stupid enough to point it at the policemen who told him to drop it.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/video...

      If you teach your kids to respect the police, they are more likely to not be shot by police.

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    22. Re:How long will it take by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Unless the person being chased is a former football player that is suspected of killing his ex wife.

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    23. Re:How long will it take by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      He removed the orange tip from a realistic looking toy gun

      That is not a crime.

      then was stupid enough to point it at the policemen who told him to drop it.

      No he didn't. He didn't point it at the police, and they never told him to drop it. They killed him less than 2 seconds after they arrived. Here is an unedited video of the entire incident.

    24. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must know different people to me. From my perspective police in Australia are very much hated. Just because they don't go around killing unarmed teenagers doesn't mean they don't constantly abuse their power and operate in a way that is above the law.

    25. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      See "for the most part" above.

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    26. Re:How long will it take by crow_t_robot · · Score: 1

      No, it's very on topic, ass master: "Australia's New South Wales police department has added a pair of new cars to their fleet that are going to be very hard to outrun" The summary is implying that they would be used or that they are getting these promotional fast cars because cops should be chasing down criminals at very high speeds.

    27. Re:How long will it take by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      True. The topic is actually off topic of the story. AKA click bait.

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    28. Re:How long will it take by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.

      Shy should criminals fear getting shot? If they are armed then that's one thing but lots of criminals are unarmed. There's usually no reason for police to ever point a gun at you if you're unarmed and not threatening.

      Lots of things criminals do can cause them to get shot: Breaking into a house where the owner has a gun, shooting at cops, shooting at people who have guns, trying to run over cops, robbing a store at gunpoint, robbing someone on the street who has a gun or wrestles a gun away. Basically, we cannot ensure the safety of people who hold no respect for the lives of other people.

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    29. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Those things won't run on cheap fuel tho.

    30. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      b) Guidelines for police departments all over Australia are to abort police chases at speeds that pretty much every car on the road can already reach, no need for a supercar. c) Most police chases in Australia has resulted in attempted disciplinary action against the police for public endangerment. As a result car chases here are actually quite rare.

      I guess you don't watch the Australian news very much. Hardly a week goes by without a story about a police chase that was aborted "just minutes before the fatal crash." Police chases happen every day and still endanger the public, despite police trying to save face after the fatalities.

    31. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And my own experience is that they probably are [in the US].

      Former tennis player James Blake agrees with you.

    32. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The better question is how long will it take until some cop, showing off, wrecks one.

    33. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah you're a 45 year old white guy. Try being young, or black... or if you really wanna see. Go to a bad part of town. I've already had the police beat me up and give me tons of shit because they were super sure I had pot on me. It was so bad, if I did I would have given it to them so they could write their piddly ticket and hurt my future employment.

      But I didn't so I had to sit there and have my rights violated until they got bored.

    34. Re:How long will it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey a few comments earlier I shared how the police roughed me up until I would tell them about the drugs I didn't have. They threatened to get a dog so I figured they were going to plant drugs on me soon or something anyhow.

      I started making fun of them and they left.

      Respect is seen as weakness.

    35. Re:How long will it take by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Those things won't run on cheap fuel tho.

      The price difference between RON 91 (cheap fuel) and RON 98 (Expensive fuel) is about $0.15 to $0.20 per litre.

      Its not even going to make a swirl mark in the NSW police budget.

      Cars like this aren't used for patrols and duties, they're used for demonstration, PR and recruitment. Almost patrol cars are still Falcon's, Commo's and Hilux paddy wagons although Camrys are becoming more popular as a general duties car.

      That being said, didn't one cop (I think it was in NSW) destroy a modified supercharged XR8 by filling it with RON 91 not that long ago?

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    36. Re:How long will it take by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Please don't bring your US statistics into Australian law enforcement. There's differences:

      a) Police chases aren't televised live, and the last time a news helicopter was used in a police chase they were too busy relaying information between two different states who used different and incompatible radio systems, we got some occasional updates on the radios of which areas to avoid but for the most part all we saw was 5 seconds of footage in the nightly news.
      b) Guidelines for police departments all over Australia are to abort police chases at speeds that pretty much every car on the road can already reach, no need for a supercar.
      c) Most police chases in Australia has resulted in attempted disciplinary action against the police for public endangerment. As a result car chases here are actually quite rare.

      Beyond this, Australian police now favour using interception over pursuit.

      Interception means not chasing the suspect at high speed, rather hanging back, monitoring them and setting up a trap at a later point.

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    37. Re:How long will it take by aybiss · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't go that far. They are still a corrupt and violent bunch of thugs. They just can't get away with shooting you as easily.

      Searching for the video of the Brisbane cops kicking the shit out of and macing a chained dog but to no avail right now.

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    38. Re:How long will it take by KayakFun · · Score: 1

      In the Netherlands a bunch of criminals stole a few Audi RS4 and robbed a money depot of the transport company that trasports the money between shops and banks. They drove away full speed and were chased full speed too, then they stopped and shot at the police with AK-47s so the police backed off and they got away.

      Apparently fast cars help a bit in shrinking the response time of the police.

      Another time the police caused a traffic jam using the overhead speed advice signs, and the criminal drove full-speed into the back of the last car, killing the innocent occupent. The police is now no longer allowed to cause traffic jams to stop criminals.

  2. baffling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't make a lot of sense to hire engineers to design an expensive special purpose machine, and then not use it for the purpose it was specialized for.
    But hey, it's Australian Politics!

  3. Don't worry. by DingerX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure these are the last of the V8 Interceptors the Australians will buy. They'll get used eventually for that purpose.

    1. Re:Don't worry. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Oooh! A working brain. Very rare on slashdot these days.

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    2. Re:Don't worry. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why? By all accounts the current trends are that there will be no more interceptions at all. Every car chase in the past several years has resulted in police being hauled before the court for endangering the public. Guidelines already say that when a chase exceeds a certain speed which all current cars are capable of they need to call it off.

      By the time the old interceptors fall apart there won't be car chases. Just helicopters / drones monitoring the situation.

    3. Re:Don't worry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone needs to bone up on their ozploitation films.

    4. Re:Don't worry. by delt0r · · Score: 1

      It is a Mad Max reference. To the original even.

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    5. Re:Don't worry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, rather than the SJW-inspired "Guuurllll Power" version.

    6. Re:Don't worry. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Lesson learnt. Coffee first, then slashdot :-)

      Stupid part was I got the same reference in another post. For some reason Interceptor here made me think of cars capable of catching a V8. hahahahah

    7. Re:Don't worry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am the Knight Rider...
      Humm I wonder if they came with on board computer kits? ;-)

  4. Re:I could care less. by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    If you "couldn't care less" about something, why would you even write about it?

  5. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always considered 'I could care less' to be an abbreviation of 'I could care less, but not by much'.

  6. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by ACDChook · · Score: 2

    If you read the article you'll see that the cars are supplied by the manufacturers at no cost. The police departments just pay for fuel.

  7. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you tell me something I couldn't care less about, you know how little I care about it and won't keep wasting my time with telling me things I couldn't care less about if I tried. Therefore I may not care about the bollocks coming out of your cake hole, but I DO care about my time being wasted.

    And if you couldn't care less if it's "couldn't care less" not "could care less", why did YOU talk about how "it's correct now"?

  8. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Two supercars or several months' worth of frontline support for the families of fallen police officers?

    How about both? The cars didn't cost the cops anything.

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  9. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thank god you didn't compare them to the vostok rocket

  10. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    That's probably a lot cheaper than paying for all this publicity. It's already made world-wide news.
    This McLaren is rated at 11.7L/100km
    The Holdens they current use are rated at 12.1L/100km

    That's half a bee's dick difference.

  11. Re:A bit silly really by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    These cars cost $0.00
    What can you get for less than that?

  12. Re:A bit silly really by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why bother with these "supercars" when they can easily...

    Very simple: Because the Australian Police can actually read an article summary on Slashdot before posting.

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  13. Hard to outrun? by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

    The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police.

    So I'm guessing that "outrunning" them is largely irrelevant.

  14. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then try saying the full thing BEFORE contracting it. You know, like what happened with "Couldn't care less". Then you would be contracting a statement, not just making one and saying "It's not longer than it could be!" as a "defence".

    How about "I don't really care"? Shorter and more accurate and already known, without the "I think you mean *couldn't care less*" argument.

  15. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This McLaren is rated at 11.7L/100km
    The Holdens they current use are rated at 12.1L/100km

    That's half a bee's dick difference.

    And in favour of the McLaren...

  16. Missing the correct question here by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Funny

    The correct question should be: by any chance is one of the officers assigned to drive it called Max Rockatansky?

    1. Re: Missing the correct question here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This

  17. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's also this thing called a "trailer" that can be used to move a fuel inefficient vehicle (or two) around far more efficiently, and probably with less chance of them being involved in a traffic accident in the hands of an inexperienced driver as well - the Maclaren is even shown on the back of one at the top of the story. Other than a few VIP joyrides which will no doubt result in a sizeable contribution to the cause, I doubt these cars will be doing a lot of miles, fuel efficient or not, and will almost certainly bring in more donations than the outlays from fuel costs and moving them from fundraiser to fundraiser.

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  18. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    How is this relevant for cars that won't be used on the job? Please don't stand by your comments if they were idiotic to being with. Even without reading TFA or even reading the whole summary it was obvious that these were donated and won't cost the NSW government any additional money.

  19. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    If you read the article

    This is Slashdot . . . we don't read the articles . . . some folks don't even read the summaries . . . some don't even read the post that they are replying to . . . or even the subject line.

    Back on topic, I was a passenger in a "race taxi" on a track in Germany where amateurs are allowed on during the weekend. There were some rich guys with Porsches . . . and they got passed by my female professional driver in a plain looking white car . . . and were clearly annoyed about that.

    The driver told me that more important than the car . . . is the driver. If the Aussie police do decide to put these super cars into active service, they should make sure that they properly train the drivers.

    Oh, the car was a BMW M5

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  20. Re:A bit silly really by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Advertising. Audis are relatively unknown in Australia, Porsches have a bad rep here as being driven by wankers who had money and didn't know what to spend it on other than speeding tickets, so no you can't substitute them, even if Porsche and Audi did provide the cars for free like these two were.

  21. Reasons by blueshift_1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need these because of... reasons.

  22. Re:A bit silly really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porsche has an history of giving cars free to German police.

    Lamborghini did give some cars for free to Italian police (at least two I've not been counting, being used for publicity and a few other special uses): http://www.poliziadistato.it/articolo/view/33523/ (official italian police website).

    Carabinieri did not get such special treatment for some reason. Maybe that's because they are a military force, not exactly the same thing.

    It's always happened for sports cars companies to give cars to police forces for free to police forces. Nothing new.

  23. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, he couldn't care less about the fact that it is off-topic.

  24. Re:A bit silly really by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

    Audis are unknown? Where do you live? They are bloody everywhere around where I am in Brisbane.

    That said I wouldn't swap them as I agree with your Porsche sentiment and audis are driven by accountants or sales droids.

  25. Re:A bit silly really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because idf they want to parade them around and ge people to come see em and maybe donate something it's better to have a goddamn supercar to show of than an ordinary audi? I mean, Audi does make cars that are super enough to gather people to see them, but I guess you weren't talking about those.

  26. Re: A bit silly really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Yugo

  27. Re: A bit silly really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, US police were all set to get new Audis but Audi decided they would only give us the saloons, so it never happened.

  28. Australian police get super fast cars by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Funny

    but Australians don't get a super fast internet

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    1. Re: Australian police get super fast cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With that firewall and censorship, there's not much point in having the internet in Australia.

    2. Re:Australian police get super fast cars by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      but Australians don't get a super fast internet

      Don't overestimate the bandwidth of a McLaren loaded up with CDs rocketing down an empty Outback highway at 200mph.

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      Especially because it's probably not very much, those things are tiny inside

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    3. Re:Australian police get super fast cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bull shit...

      my home fiber connection in Melbourne is 100Mbps unlimited.

    4. Re: Australian police get super fast cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I have mixed feelings about him ...

      In 1996 he led the charge to make Australia a republic by removing the head of the country, leaving only the head of government. He was absolutely devastated when average Australians said "hell, No!" by referendum. Australians dislike their constitutions being changed, mostly because very few changes have a direct benefit to themselves. The failed referendum proposed stripping the head of the country of all powers (the job contains 3 powers) but still paying him/her a generous wage, making it the perfect graft.

      I suspect Turnbull will revive the push to a republic. This ignores the fact that our legal system depends on being part of the British empire although all legal responsibilities were severed in 1986. Creating a republic isn't as simple as deleting the words 'Govenor-general' from the constitution.

    5. Re: Australian police get super fast cars by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Malcolm Turnbull just became Prime Minister in the last few hours. I have mixed feelings about him, but he's very strong on internet technology, having bought shares in what become Australia's largest ISP for 500,000 AUD, becoming chairman of the company, and selling them later for 57,000,000. He has to downsize to the Prime Minister's residence, poor guy.

      Hopefully he can break Australia's history of very poor internet policy.

      Prior to Turnbull being Communications Minister we've had some shockers, with Alston and Conroy being the at the bottom of that very deep bucket. I have hope.

      The thing is, we've only replaced the head of the cockroach.

      We've still got Abetz, Cormann, Bishop, Brandis, Joyce (who is livid at his pet Abbott being dethroned and has already started making demands), Dutton, Morrison and the rest of delinquents. Beyond them we have the party powerbrokers, AKA the faceless men like Murdoch and Gina Reinheart. Abbott was a symptom of the disease in the LNP, not its cause. Likely Hockey is going to have to pack up his Eleventy calculator and go home, I guess there is some silver lining.

      I dont hold out hope that Turnbull will be able to change anything, he will be forced to tow the party line or risk being replaced. His job is entirely PR, to try to recover from the disastrous polling from the Abbott government whilst not changing any LNP policies.

      We're going to be stuck with the Fraudband "String To The Can" Not Broadband Network.

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    6. Re: Australian police get super fast cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bishop is fine, she's more concerned with keeping good relationships with other countries and trying to fix the mess that other people make with those relationships to try and mess around with broadband policy.

  29. PURSUIT by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I like to imagine the Australian police driving something a little more like this:

    http://www.zupimages.net/up/15...

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  30. Even dubbed in American by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Still not better than the last of the V8 Interceptors.

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    1. Re:Even dubbed in American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bit subliminally gay. Never saw that promo shot.

      The way he's holding the baton makes it looks like Max's dick is out. And it's goose who made him that way!

      We're on to you, Bronze!

  31. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by ACDChook · · Score: 1

    Was that the Nurburgring by any chance? I know they use M5's for their ring taxis. And the supercars are just for public events and raising support and money for charity. Not police work.

  32. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did. you weren't paying attention.

  33. Re:A bit silly really by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


    Clearly your brain sees something that said "FREE!" and you lunge.

    What about the cost of insurance? the cost of repair? the cost of fuel? the cost of training?

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  34. Blink by nospam007 · · Score: 0

    "The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police."

    Yeah. Why do charities or their managers always have to buy supercars?

    I don't get it. I surely won't donate to any charity where the chairman doesn't drive a rusty 85 Chevy.

    1. Re:Blink by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      I almost forgot. I also once tried to buy a property, but the realtor came to the location with a Ferrari.
      As you mi8ght guess, I didn't sign.

      Those guys really don't get it.

    2. Re:Blink by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Nobody bought anything.

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    3. Re:Blink by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      If you didn't sign because of the car they drove then you're as much of a problem as those people who don't sign because they drive an old beat-up car. You're basing your view of the property and it's price on a person who is delivering the paperwork, something tells me you weren't interested in the property anyway.

      My mum was a realestate agent for 10 years until the corruption and infighting in the industry got too much to bear, but one thing was certain, her business improved a lot when she switched to a shiny upmarket car on a lease which she renewed every 2 years. People in general (clearly not you) seem to be more inspired by working with successful people than unsuccessful ones.

  35. wait a minute... by yodleboy · · Score: 0

    How are all these police dying in numbers that require this kind of money is spent to raise still more money? Are there lethal kangaroo attacks? Rabid sheep? Terrible drivers? I mean, Australia is frequently a poster child for gun control in the US, so what gives? I was told if there were no guns, that no one would die. So how are these guys snuffing it?

    1. Re:wait a minute... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Dropbears. Every survived day in Australia is a blessing.

    2. Re:wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Dropbears. Every survived day in Australia is a blessing.

      Fair dinkum.

      Rest in peace, dropbear...

  36. A "blast from the past" personal nostalgia for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's part of my 'parting message' on IRC (dalnet) in the 90's:

    "Windows NT/2000/XP & Windows Server 2003 are a Look @ the Future: AND THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!" FFFFFFffffoooommmm... "In the Era of the Turbo: Screaming out of the SubSonic DataStream Riding the Lightning as AlecÂtaar - GHOST IN THE MACHINE & LAST OF THE V-8 POLICE INTERCEPTORS!!!" LaTeR++ ->->->->...

    (When I was an admin on the "Official Windows Help Channel" #Windows95, endorsed by MiRC creator K. Marden Bey, circa 1994-2000)

    APK

    P.S.=> Great minds think alike - I was going to do a "Mad Max" post regarding that myself but you "beat me to the punch" here... apk

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  39. Right-o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finnish police have also been donated super cars in the past. I recall them getting a Jaguar some ten years or so ago, but they trashed it in under a year.

    1. Re:Right-o by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I don't believe it. A Jaguar that ran for year? Bullshit.

      Perhaps if it was a re-badged Ford 'Jaguar'.

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  40. Aussie cops get sportscars for community outreach by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

    donated by car dealers, while US police departments are getting MRAPs and APCs courtesy of the US taxpayer, to be used for terrorizing the populace into submission, as well as the occasional no-knock raid on a suspected pot grower or whatever.

    If US cops want something like a Porsche or Lamborghini for their DARE propaganda vehicle, they simply start an asset forfeiture against the local coke dealer....

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  41. Re:Off Topic by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    This is where someone usually goes, "You must be new here." Very rarely do the comments stick to the narrowest interpretation of what the topic is.

  42. Re:so... two million Pounds buys what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did'nt you read it, it is to celebrate womyn in puhlish. So, all is fine or else you are a mushoguinist.

    As if any money spent is name of womyn by stupid govts. and orgs are worth it.

  43. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He DIDN'T.

    He had to consider himself WITH NO EVIDENCE OF IT that it was short for what he said. Therefore COMMON USAGE of that longer statement was not held. It was straight to the *supposed* short version. He never used it himself.

  44. Re:I could care less. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    I could care less about the opinions of pedants.

    Why aren't you on Reddit where you belong?

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  45. Re:A bit silly really by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    I was amazed to find you could actually sell a British car in Australia. It's like they never learn.

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  46. Re:A bit silly really by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Yes Audis are everywhere. What are they known for? Small cars with good traction control.

    I've seen a single R8, heck I've seen more Ferraris on our streets than I've seen RS6s. Audis are seen as a luxury European small car all over the country and don't even carry remotely the prestige of a McLaren or an Aston Martin, even if for some of the cars they may deserve to.

  47. So Disappoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one, do not appreciate reality from intruding upon my mental images and fantasy. You know, the one where you are chasing "the bad guy" across the Australian Outback, doing a cool 300 km/h in my McLaren, and it's all cool and legit because I'm a cop!

    Vroom!

  48. [Aussie]Last of the V8 Interceptors[/Aussie] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Be a shame to blow them up...."

    This is the Mad Max reboot we all needed.

  49. Re:Aussie cops get sportscars for community outrea by burtosis · · Score: 1

    If US cops want something like a Porsche or Lamborghini for their DARE propaganda vehicle, they simply start an asset forfeiture against the local coke dealer....

    Since when did you have to break the law to get your assets forfeited? Here in America you can have your Porsche stolen by the cops just because they don't like you, no actual crime or evidence needed. Good luck getting it back too.

  50. Fixing your misapprehensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you watch TV or listen to Internet forums, you'll get wrong ideas about the numbers. Here's some actual facts.

    1) Roughly twice as many white people as black are killed by police every year in the USA.

    2) There are about six times as many white people as black, so this shows a serious disparity - if enforcement and crime were both equal, there should be six times as many whites being killed, not twice as many.

    3) There are twice as many poor white people as black people. Again, this is a disparity - if poverty were equally distributed, there'd be six times as many poor whites, not twice as many.

    It should be obvious, just from these three facts (and there's many more correlations) that law enforcement bears little relation to either color or crime. Rich people of every race can literally get away with murder while the poor are victimized regardless of color. There's a brutal, bloody war being waged on the poor, and it just so happens that a disproportionate percentage of people living in poverty are non-white. Racism exists, and this situation does allow racists to exercise their hate, but the problem isn't racism itself, the problem is the lack of availability of education and jobs for the poor.

    This is what Dr. King was trying to tell people. Poverty is what's keeping black people down. Every cop knows that a black man's more likely to be poor than a white man.

    1. Re:Fixing your misapprehensions by delt0r · · Score: 1
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  51. Re:Police are for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do copper cows rust if left out in the rain? and does that taint the milk?

  52. Re:I could care less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because I couldn't care less if you're unhappy about where I posted it.

    However, you apparently DO care about the opinions of pedants. Both by your base claim AND the fact that your solution is pedantry ("you should be doing this instead" == "You mean this word instead").

  53. Re: A bit silly really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Italian police did buy a bunch of Seat Exeo cars, which in fact are the old version of the audi A4 Avant (Saloon). They paid for those though.

    Please note that in Italy saloon cars are quite successful and instead it's the bigger sedans which are an hard sell, exactly the opposite of the U market.

  54. Re:I could care less. by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

    How about GAGF instead

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