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Australian Police Get McLaren and Aston Martin Supercars
An anonymous reader writes: Australia's New South Wales police department has added a pair of new cars to their fleet that are going to be very hard to outrun, a McLaren 650S and an Aston Martin Vanquish Volante. The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police. "These sponsorship arrangements are designed to promote community engagement with NSW Police. This agreement is designed to promote tomorrow's Police Legacy Wall to Wall ride and celebrate 100 years of Women in Policing," a police spokesperson said in a statement.
I'm sure these are the last of the V8 Interceptors the Australians will buy. They'll get used eventually for that purpose.
If you "couldn't care less" about something, why would you even write about it?
If you read the article you'll see that the cars are supplied by the manufacturers at no cost. The police departments just pay for fuel.
Since it's a sponsorship, they don't cost anything.
In the past, the NSW Police have had an Audi RS4 and a Porsche Panamera donated to them. With these arrangements the car manufacturer foots all the costs, included servicing and registration, with the police force responsible for only the fuel.
Two supercars or several months' worth of frontline support for the families of fallen police officers?
How about both? The cars didn't cost the cops anything.
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That's probably a lot cheaper than paying for all this publicity. It's already made world-wide news.
This McLaren is rated at 11.7L/100km
The Holdens they current use are rated at 12.1L/100km
That's half a bee's dick difference.
These cars cost $0.00
What can you get for less than that?
Why bother with these "supercars" when they can easily...
Very simple: Because the Australian Police can actually read an article summary on Slashdot before posting.
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The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police.
So I'm guessing that "outrunning" them is largely irrelevant.
Given that they were donated at no cost, precisely zero seconds.
It's still stupid, but no, they didn't pay for them.
That said, we keep seeing the stereotype that the key ability to successful police enforcement is to be able to drive faster than the criminals. Which is nonsense. The strength of the police force versus criminals is that there's a million of them, pre-scattered across the country, and they communicate with each other in realtime. You don't have to catch up with the fleeing perp, you're already past them - or at least, another officer is. You just need to not lose them (aka, a helicopter, or better, a drone; things like StarChase help too) and keep the net around them tight enough that you can nab them if they stop (which has to happen eventually), but not so tight that they feel the need to drive like a maniac and endanger the public. Heck, you can even make them stop in a place where they're no threat to the public, such as spike strips on a closed road or the like. But you never need to have car chases through busy public areas - at least not for more than a brief initial period. It's pointless.
There's a interesting statistics on the topic here. 91% of police chases are over non-violent crime. 233 suspects and their passengers (some of them innocent) die in police chases every year in the US, as well as 87 innocent bystanders and 3 police officers - more than the number killed by floods, tornadoes, lightning and hurricanes combined. 42% of police chases were over nothing more than simple traffic infractions. 15% were for suspected drunk driving - which just adds even more danger to bystanders.
Police chases make great TV, but usually they're hardly worth the risk unless there's a serious danger of A) losing the suspect, and B) the suspect committing a violent crime after being lost.
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The correct question should be: by any chance is one of the officers assigned to drive it called Max Rockatansky?
There's also this thing called a "trailer" that can be used to move a fuel inefficient vehicle (or two) around far more efficiently, and probably with less chance of them being involved in a traffic accident in the hands of an inexperienced driver as well - the Maclaren is even shown on the back of one at the top of the story. Other than a few VIP joyrides which will no doubt result in a sizeable contribution to the cause, I doubt these cars will be doing a lot of miles, fuel efficient or not, and will almost certainly bring in more donations than the outlays from fuel costs and moving them from fundraiser to fundraiser.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
How is this relevant for cars that won't be used on the job? Please don't stand by your comments if they were idiotic to being with. Even without reading TFA or even reading the whole summary it was obvious that these were donated and won't cost the NSW government any additional money.
If you read the article
This is Slashdot . . . we don't read the articles . . . some folks don't even read the summaries . . . some don't even read the post that they are replying to . . . or even the subject line.
Back on topic, I was a passenger in a "race taxi" on a track in Germany where amateurs are allowed on during the weekend. There were some rich guys with Porsches . . . and they got passed by my female professional driver in a plain looking white car . . . and were clearly annoyed about that.
The driver told me that more important than the car . . . is the driver. If the Aussie police do decide to put these super cars into active service, they should make sure that they properly train the drivers.
Oh, the car was a BMW M5
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Advertising. Audis are relatively unknown in Australia, Porsches have a bad rep here as being driven by wankers who had money and didn't know what to spend it on other than speeding tickets, so no you can't substitute them, even if Porsche and Audi did provide the cars for free like these two were.
The vehicles aren't going to be used on the job, but as a promotional tool to help raise money for the families of fallen police
The vehicles are a flash way to promote a charitable cause, and a bridge between petrol heads and police, nothing more.
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We need these because of... reasons.
Please don't bring your US statistics into Australian law enforcement. There's differences:
a) Police chases aren't televised live, and the last time a news helicopter was used in a police chase they were too busy relaying information between two different states who used different and incompatible radio systems, we got some occasional updates on the radios of which areas to avoid but for the most part all we saw was 5 seconds of footage in the nightly news.
b) Guidelines for police departments all over Australia are to abort police chases at speeds that pretty much every car on the road can already reach, no need for a supercar.
c) Most police chases in Australia has resulted in attempted disciplinary action against the police for public endangerment. As a result car chases here are actually quite rare.
Audis are unknown? Where do you live? They are bloody everywhere around where I am in Brisbane.
That said I wouldn't swap them as I agree with your Porsche sentiment and audis are driven by accountants or sales droids.
Add on to this that Australian police forces haven't gone full paramilitary like the US has. The chances of having a gun pulled on you by a random member of the public here is incredibly small so the coppers aren't permanently scared.
If you want to see the difference watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?... - This is a video of police in Brisbane, a major capital city, accepting a dance challenge outside a pub while on security detail for the recent G20.
but Australians don't get a super fast internet
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
I like to imagine the Australian police driving something a little more like this:
http://www.zupimages.net/up/15...
You are welcome on my lawn.
Still not better than the last of the V8 Interceptors.
-Styopa
Was that the Nurburgring by any chance? I know they use M5's for their ring taxis. And the supercars are just for public events and raising support and money for charity. Not police work.
Clearly your brain sees something that said "FREE!" and you lunge.
What about the cost of insurance? the cost of repair? the cost of fuel? the cost of training?
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That doesn't make what he said any less true. Nowhere did he say that these cars would be used on the job. It still maintains the illusion that speedy cars is what it takes to handle someone driving a vehicle that tries to elude police. Someone else in the thread pointed out that the illusion is better maintained in the US, but that does not make this instance not something that maintains the illusion.
I almost forgot. I also once tried to buy a property, but the realtor came to the location with a Ferrari.
As you mi8ght guess, I didn't sign.
Those guys really don't get it.
Also as a result of not shooting everyone in the face, the police in NZ/AUS are generally not hated. It makes a pretty big difference. Where in the US the feeling is that they are out to get you. And my own experience is that they probably are [in the US].
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Also as a result of not shooting everyone in the face, the police in NZ/AUS are generally not hated. It makes a pretty big difference. Where in the US the feeling is that they are out to get you. And my own experience is that they probably are [in the US].
The concern that police are out to get you in the U.S. is not due to police shooting everybody in the face. I personally have lived here 45 years and have never been shot in the face by a policeman. I am much more concerned about getting shot in the face by a criminal than by a policeman. The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals. Even so, the number of criminals that are killed by police in a given year compared to the number of total arrests is meaninglessly small. However, every time it happens, the media makes such a big deal about it that everybody starts hating the cops and apparently people as far away as Australia are led to believe that the chances of being killed by a cop are on the order of the same as the chances of winning the lottery. If you are not a criminal, your chances of being killed by a cop are much lower than your chances of winning the lottery.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Since they were donated I'm sure that they will immediately sell them and give all the proceeds to the families of fallen officers.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Clearly you are white.
If information wants to be free, why does my internet connection cost so much?
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Nobody bought anything.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
a bridge between petrol heads and police
Spot on, in fact there's a fair number of responsible petrol heads amongst the NSW highway patrol, and they have been in their ranks for a couple of generations now. IMO they're "eating their own dog food" and genuinely trying to set a good example for the bogans to follow.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
"That doesn't make what he said any less true."
Just off topic.
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Clearly you are white.
White people occasionally get shot by police, as well, thought it is about as rare as black people getting shot, and is in equal proportion to the percentage of crimes committed by race. However, when white people get shot, it doesn't make the news, and nobody riots or burns businesses, because, just like when blacks are shot, the person was usually a criminal, and we understand that being a criminal is a dangerous profession that may end in you getting hurt or killed.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Yep, dangerous hoons do not become famous Oz, and rarely are they able to bait cops into doing something stupid. In my state they have their supercars crushed in front of the local media, they don't have to watch, and rarely do. It's a 'cultural' norm that was fostered by a science based bi-partisan approach to the road toll that started way back in the 70's. In Victoria the toll is numerically ~1/10th of what it was in 1970, yet an order of magnitude more cars are on the road.
Disclaimer: Aussie driver's license 1978-2015.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
donated by car dealers, while US police departments are getting MRAPs and APCs courtesy of the US taxpayer, to be used for terrorizing the populace into submission, as well as the occasional no-knock raid on a suspected pot grower or whatever.
If US cops want something like a Porsche or Lamborghini for their DARE propaganda vehicle, they simply start an asset forfeiture against the local coke dealer....
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The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.
Nice troll!
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
This is where someone usually goes, "You must be new here." Very rarely do the comments stick to the narrowest interpretation of what the topic is.
I could care less about the opinions of pedants.
Why aren't you on Reddit where you belong?
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I was amazed to find you could actually sell a British car in Australia. It's like they never learn.
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I don't believe it. A Jaguar that ran for year? Bullshit.
Perhaps if it was a re-badged Ford 'Jaguar'.
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Yes Audis are everywhere. What are they known for? Small cars with good traction control.
I've seen a single R8, heck I've seen more Ferraris on our streets than I've seen RS6s. Audis are seen as a luxury European small car all over the country and don't even carry remotely the prestige of a McLaren or an Aston Martin, even if for some of the cars they may deserve to.
If you didn't sign because of the car they drove then you're as much of a problem as those people who don't sign because they drive an old beat-up car. You're basing your view of the property and it's price on a person who is delivering the paperwork, something tells me you weren't interested in the property anyway.
My mum was a realestate agent for 10 years until the corruption and infighting in the industry got too much to bear, but one thing was certain, her business improved a lot when she switched to a shiny upmarket car on a lease which she renewed every 2 years. People in general (clearly not you) seem to be more inspired by working with successful people than unsuccessful ones.
Dropbears. Every survived day in Australia is a blessing.
For the most part, police chases aren't televised here either, live or otherwise. There's maybe a snippet of the end of it, but not much. Televising police chases is more of a thing you see in movies, but not much in real life.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
If US cops want something like a Porsche or Lamborghini for their DARE propaganda vehicle, they simply start an asset forfeiture against the local coke dealer....
Since when did you have to break the law to get your assets forfeited? Here in America you can have your Porsche stolen by the cops just because they don't like you, no actual crime or evidence needed. Good luck getting it back too.
The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.
Shy should criminals fear getting shot? If they are armed then that's one thing but lots of criminals are unarmed. There's usually no reason for police to ever point a gun at you if you're unarmed and not threatening.
You do realize that all of those who have been shot recently were committing crimes at the time right?
Yep, even the 12 year old black kid that was shot was committing a crime. He removed the orange tip from a realistic looking toy gun, then was stupid enough to point it at the policemen who told him to drop it.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video...
If you teach your kids to respect the police, they are more likely to not be shot by police.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Unless the person being chased is a former football player that is suspected of killing his ex wife.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
He removed the orange tip from a realistic looking toy gun
That is not a crime.
then was stupid enough to point it at the policemen who told him to drop it.
No he didn't. He didn't point it at the police, and they never told him to drop it. They killed him less than 2 seconds after they arrived. Here is an unedited video of the entire incident.
See "for the most part" above.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
No, it's very on topic, ass master: "Australia's New South Wales police department has added a pair of new cars to their fleet that are going to be very hard to outrun" The summary is implying that they would be used or that they are getting these promotional fast cars because cops should be chasing down criminals at very high speeds.
True. The topic is actually off topic of the story. AKA click bait.
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The only people that have any legitimate fear of getting shot are criminals.
Shy should criminals fear getting shot? If they are armed then that's one thing but lots of criminals are unarmed. There's usually no reason for police to ever point a gun at you if you're unarmed and not threatening.
Lots of things criminals do can cause them to get shot: Breaking into a house where the owner has a gun, shooting at cops, shooting at people who have guns, trying to run over cops, robbing a store at gunpoint, robbing someone on the street who has a gun or wrestles a gun away. Basically, we cannot ensure the safety of people who hold no respect for the lives of other people.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Those things won't run on cheap fuel tho.
Those things won't run on cheap fuel tho.
The price difference between RON 91 (cheap fuel) and RON 98 (Expensive fuel) is about $0.15 to $0.20 per litre.
Its not even going to make a swirl mark in the NSW police budget.
Cars like this aren't used for patrols and duties, they're used for demonstration, PR and recruitment. Almost patrol cars are still Falcon's, Commo's and Hilux paddy wagons although Camrys are becoming more popular as a general duties car.
That being said, didn't one cop (I think it was in NSW) destroy a modified supercharged XR8 by filling it with RON 91 not that long ago?
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Please don't bring your US statistics into Australian law enforcement. There's differences:
a) Police chases aren't televised live, and the last time a news helicopter was used in a police chase they were too busy relaying information between two different states who used different and incompatible radio systems, we got some occasional updates on the radios of which areas to avoid but for the most part all we saw was 5 seconds of footage in the nightly news.
b) Guidelines for police departments all over Australia are to abort police chases at speeds that pretty much every car on the road can already reach, no need for a supercar.
c) Most police chases in Australia has resulted in attempted disciplinary action against the police for public endangerment. As a result car chases here are actually quite rare.
Beyond this, Australian police now favour using interception over pursuit.
Interception means not chasing the suspect at high speed, rather hanging back, monitoring them and setting up a trap at a later point.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
I wouldn't go that far. They are still a corrupt and violent bunch of thugs. They just can't get away with shooting you as easily.
Searching for the video of the Brisbane cops kicking the shit out of and macing a chained dog but to no avail right now.
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
How about GAGF instead
The new right fascists are bilingual. They speak English and Bullshit.
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In the Netherlands a bunch of criminals stole a few Audi RS4 and robbed a money depot of the transport company that trasports the money between shops and banks. They drove away full speed and were chased full speed too, then they stopped and shot at the police with AK-47s so the police backed off and they got away.
Apparently fast cars help a bit in shrinking the response time of the police.
Another time the police caused a traffic jam using the overhead speed advice signs, and the criminal drove full-speed into the back of the last car, killing the innocent occupent. The police is now no longer allowed to cause traffic jams to stop criminals.