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Speaker of the House Boehner Announces Resignation

halfEvilTech writes: House Speaker John A. Boehner announced Friday morning that he will resign at the end of October. The Washington Post reports: "The resignation will end a nearly five-year reign as speaker, allowing House Republicans to approve a short-term government funding bill that will avert a shutdown of federal agencies. Boehner's hold on the speaker's gavel had grown increasingly unsteady amid threats from more than 30 Republicans that they would force a no-confidence vote in his speaker's position, which would have forced him to rely on Democratic votes in order to remain in charge. Several GOP members told The Washington Post that Boehner would step down from Congress Oct. 31."

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  1. House loses most staunch Democrat by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2, Informative

    He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

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    1. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

      If you're not with us you're against us, eh? If you look at a graph, he's moderate. "More like a Democrat"? You can be moderate, you know. For a site that rails against the two party system, the comments seem to want to reinforce it.

    2. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You mean like President Ronald Reagan who raised taxes 11 times, cooperated with Tip O'Neil and the Democrats to get things done, negotiated with the Soviets and the Iranians, and granted amnesty to illegal immigrants?

    3. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't you know? If you're a moderate, then you are like a Democrat. The Republican party is far-right extremist, and "the left" no longer exists. Even "socialist" Bernie Sanders is only about as far left as Eisenhower.

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    4. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You say "gridlock" like it's a bad thing.

      Every time Congress does anything, more of our rights and more of our money disappear.

      They can all take a good long vacation, if you ask me.

    5. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by romanval · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly how does a "real" Republican vote in a way that's in the best interests for all?

      Real politics is one of compromise... and I haven't seen a TPR (Tea Party Republican) do that in a long time.

    6. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by caladine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Too many repubs conveniently gloss over the facts with their vaunted Reagan. Someone with his record would be considered the worst kind of RINO by the repub base today. If could, I'd be +1'ing this.

    7. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That would be perfect if Congress didn't have to vote once or twice a year for the government to stay open.

      Unfortunately, they seem incapable of that even.

    8. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Obama will veto anything that the Republicans do anyway, even if it were to get past a filibuster in the Senate.

      Anything? Obama said he will veto if a bill has something to defund Planned Parenthood. If the Republicans let go of the whole defund Planned Parenthood thing, Obama more than likely will go along.

      It's a shame that heavily edited video came out. PP mostly does women's health screening: pap smears, breast exams, free birth control so they don't have to get abortions, and other free health services that have nothing to do with abortion - all for poor women and it's 99% of what they do. PP does very very little abortions. But unfortunately, the anti-abortionists insist on lying about and exaggerating their abortion services.

      But I don't care. See, I'm well to do. If a woman in my family want's an abortion and it's illegal, we'll hop on a plane and get it done where it's legal and there's not a goddamn thing in the World anyone can do about it.

      Banning abortion just commits poor women to have their babies.

      And the adoption myth. Adoption is viable for white healthy babies. The rest get thrown into the foster care system or into abusive families who are gaming the welfare system.

    9. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, or he was trying to do that thing called 'governing.'

      After the elections are over, the Congress needs to actually work together and compromise in order to enact legislation to keep government working. You can't just stamp your feet and demand you always get your way - that's not governing, and results in the completely dysfunctional shitty government we have today.

      Oh, I know what you're thinking: "I'd rather have a gridlocked government than one that passes this socialist marxist yadda blah blah" - keep thinking that and being part of the problem. Enjoy never seeing a conservative elected to the Presidency again.

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    10. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MachineShedFred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and meanwhile thousands of families lose their livelihood to shutdowns and furloughs because 535 people can't work together to get anything done for the 320 million people that sent them there to do a job they refuse to do.

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    11. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2

      Are you aware of these 535 people called "Congress"? They negotiate and pass bills. The President just signs or vetoes them.

    12. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      President Obama took a page out of the Clinton Playbook by making the Republican agenda his own.

      • Capturing Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan? Checked.
      • Permanently extending the Bush tax cuts for most Americans? Checked.
      • Implementing RomneyCare-style healthcare reform for all Americans? Checked.

      What are the 2016 Republican presidential candidates talking about these days? Not foreign policy, not taxes and not Obamacare.

    13. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tomhath · · Score: 2

      cooperated with Tip O'Neil and the Democrats to get things done

      That's the important part. Neither party can get anything done unless they sit down and and cut deals. Obama, Pelosi and Reed proved that.

    14. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

      I'm slightly intrigued by the proximity of this announcement to the Papal visit. I know Boehner's said he wanted to quit last time, but only stayed on because Cantor got the boot. And the hardliners in his own party have been circling like wolves to unseat him as Speaker. But is there a chance that he was wavering on this decision, and something about the Pope's visit prompted him to get off the fence?

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    15. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by bob_super · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gotta call Poe's Law on this one...

    16. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      I have an informal list of people that I would watch their assimilation on Pay Per View, and both Boehner and McConnell are on it.

    17. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by cgfsd · · Score: 2

      Do you not understand that under the category of "extreme" is "extremely good"?

      Moderation is the mixing of poison and food..

      Moderation is making a dam only moderately strong.

      Moderation is a 747 pilot who's only moderately sober.

      Drinking Alcohol (a poison) with dinner is moderation.
      Building a dam moderately strong to specifications and not ruin the surrounding area due to over engineer is considered appropriate..
      Moderately sober 747 pilot, that would be a step up for the normally drunk pilot, right?

    18. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by whistlingtony · · Score: 5, Informative

      Speaking as a Democrat, I'm happy to see that the R's gave in on abortion, funded women's health care, stopped oil subsidies, went along with a single payer health care system, cut back on war funding, funded basic infrastructure, etc etc etc. Oh wait, that never happened.

      What did the Democrats get that they wanted? I'm dying to know. That's a big statement. Let's see it backed up.

    19. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I always get a kick out of this partisan "give them everything" BS that's always quoted. The essence of deal making is no one gets everything they want. There are people on the right like yourself that fail to acknowledge one simple fact. That is that the republicans do not have the votes necessary to override the democrats against their wishes. The solution you propose is to simply refuse to play as if that's a solution. A solution with only one outcome, you shutdown government, put millions out of work, cost millions more and damage the US economy in the process in the hope that the Democrats will roll over and give you everything you want.

      So Boehner is going to do the smart thing and quit before the Republican's shut down government yet again and piss off even more Voters with the resulting cost of loss of seats and less power for the party. You and the republicans like you represent the decline and eventual destruction of the republican party.

    20. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You just insulted every soldier.

      Keep that in mind every time you rant against Federal employees (the largest batch of which is soldiers). And a shutdown WILL harm soldiers, particularly the ones that work for the state guard units funded by federal moneies that will NOT have their wages paid. My nephew in law is a state guardsman, the last shutdown cost him almost a 1/12th of his yearly pay. They almost ended up homeless.

    21. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There are a couple issues the republicans have gone so far to the right that they actually accomplished a far Left policy goal. Berny Sanders has been trying to shutdown the EXIM (Export/Import) Bank for almost a decade and was always thwarted by the Republicans and blue dog democrats. In their effort to be as far right as possible the Tea Party Republicans actually accomplished one of the Sanders policy goals. It's almost Ironic if it weren't funny and tragic at the same time. We've already lost 1000 jobs shutting down a bank that made the treasury money.

    22. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obamacare would have done much to reduce the need for Planned Parenthood's rural healthcare services had states actually expanded Medicaid as the law required. Because so many states with Republican controlled legislatures and governors offices refused to support the medicaid expansion planned parenthood's services are still needed by many poor women.

      Your argument is without merit until the medicaid expansion is fulfilled.

    23. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Informative

      For a site that rails against the two party system, the comments seem to want to reinforce it.

      This site rails against the two party system only in that they find the other party (ie, the democrats) to be an inconvenience that they need to rid the nation of. Around here if you stand to the left of Genghis Khan you're a goddamned socialist.

      This is of course particularly funny when you see slashdotters twist themselves into knots trying to align themselves with Reagan (who is far too far to the left to be welcomed in today's GOP) while still pushing their extreme conservative agenda.

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    24. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      Is he trying to "bury the story" under the Papal news cycle?

      wait, papal split from ebay a month or two ago, didn't they?

      why is this news, now? did something happen?

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    25. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not the OP, but off the top of my head -

      What women's healthcare issue is it you want funded ?

      Planned Parenthood and mandating health insurance company cover birth control

      Where are the Republican's fighting baby killing ? They won't even stop children being butchered and their organs sold.

      Planned Parenthood defunding attempt due to the small percentage of their services that are abortion related.

      What oil subsidy do you want stopped ?

      Any and all of them

      How are they not going along with single payer healthcare

      There was originally a requirement to have the government offer insurance as a competitive carrot for the insurance industry when the ACA was being negotiated. Republicans refused to consider it, while at the same time trumpeted how private industry was more efficient than government all of the time.

      What infrastructure do you want funded that isn't actually the job of the states and not the federal governments ?

      Interstate highways and bridges, to start.

    26. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      President Obama made capturing Osama bin Laden a priority for his administration. President Bush made invading Iraq a priority over capturing Osama bin Laden. One was a success, the other was a failure.

    27. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It just kills me when I see comments like this, especially when they get modded up. You people have no idea how much the government does that would immediately cease if the government completely shutdown. You might miss border control with unregulated crossing of the US borders, you might miss consular assistance if you're in a jam abroad, you might miss the justice department enforcing a breach of contract you are involved in, you might miss the coast guard if your ship sinks in US territorial waters, you might miss the FAA when suddenly there is no air traffic control. These are all things that are inherently government functions that would cease immediately if the government just stopped. And this is only what I could think of off the top of my head in 60 seconds--the max amount of my life I'm willing to waste responding to drivel on the internet.

    28. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by HiThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Being a moderate would require being to the left of most elected Democrats. If you'd said he was a mean politician, however, it would be hard to argue.

      (Possibly median, but it seems to me to be closer to the mean. And by politician I'm only considering elected legislators in the Federal Government.)

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    29. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ninjagin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, while you can get by without meat and poultry inspections for a little bit, and without water quality monitoring for awhile, or game and fisheries monitoring for awhile, or atmospheric tracking and monitoring for awhile, or auditing financial institutions for legal compliance, there would be a time afterwards when stuff like that would become meaningful again. None of that stuff showed up in the government basket out of thin air. It's nice to think that it can all be burned down and nobody would care, but the truth of it is that there are things the government does (most of what it does, actually) which private industry does not or cannot do reliably or without undue influence. Yep, there's also a lot of paperwork and inefficiency, too.

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    30. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You must have missed Obama going out of his way to refuse to negotiate with the Republicans over the last government shutdown.

      And why should he? The "government shutdown" is Congress refusing to pay for bills Congress ran up. What possible benefit to the POTUS is there in playing with them on this? If they were offering something the Democrats might like in exchange it might be different. But sticking a gun to your own head and demanding my car keys isn't going to get you a "negotiation".

    31. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      President Obama who ordered the takedown of Osama bin Laden and got the job down. He went against the advice of Vice President Joe Biden to abort the mission because it was too similar to the 1980 Iranian hostage rescue attempt. Obama pulled the trigger, Bush sat on the sidelines.

    32. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      Actually, he already got a private meeting with the Pope. Then he announced his retirement.

      Maybe the Pope tweaked his conscience. Or whatever politicians use in place of one.

    33. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No one should ever negotiate on the debt ceiling. The time to talk about spending too much is when you want to open the wallet and buy things. It's a bit late to for that discussion when your new TV is sitting in the living room and you're wondering if you want to bother paying the credit card bill for it that just arrived.

    34. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Informative

      You failed to read my response. Planned Parenthood isn't the only choice. There are PLENTY of other Woman's Health Centers out there, most don't perform abortion. And I suggested expanding coverage for these. So your view is simply binary choice selection, which is what I said in the first place.

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    35. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by imidan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      BTW, why do Democrats put contraceptives under the "women's health" umbrella when it takes two to tango?

      Because contraceptives have other uses than just preventing pregnancy. For example, oral contraceptives lower women's ovarian cancer risk, clears up acne, lighter menstruation, reduction in PMS symptoms, relief from endometriosis, and relief from polycystic ovarian syndrome.

      They also serve as a pretty effective form of birth control. But when a woman is advised by her doctor to use oral contraceptives for any of the above conditions (or anything else), and reasonably wants them to be covered by her insurance, she gets Rush Limbaugh calling her a slut. Personally, I think if we can manage to cover boner pills with medical insurance, we can probably cover birth control pills also, regardless of the reason a woman wants to take them.

    36. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They didn't just want a "negotiation" they wanted him to bend over and let them ass rape him by destroying his single biggest policy achievement. There was no way in hell he was going to agree to that. That's the thing people just aren't getting. If you want to change status quo you have to negotiate. Everything the Republican's have been trying to do it change the current status quo and no one in their right mind is going to agree to such a thing under a threat of refusing to fund government.

      This is how Obama-care got through, Obama negotiated with the 1 or 2 republicans willing to negotiate that got him the votes he needed to break the fillibuster and pass it. Then all these new congress-critters from the tea party come in and they think they get to have whatever they want and screw everyone else.

    37. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      this was their idea of negotiation: give us everything we want, and fuck you.
      not playing by those rules is not refusing to negotiate.
      and linking to the Washington Times only lowers your apparent IQ.

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    38. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by narcc · · Score: 2

      The revelation that Planned Parenthood rotates the baby to be able to harvest more body parts - and sells such parts for profit - doesn't sit right with us.

      Oh, then you'll be happy to know that that doesn't happen and has never happened.

    39. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by blue+trane · · Score: 2

      The real reason the Repubs are opposed to the Export-Import bank is that a public bank conceptually takes away from the private sector's drive to become the exclusive creator of all money. That's why Repubs want to end the Fed too, to fully privatize the money supply.

      Sanders is against it, if he is, because he doesn't fully understand how much money the private sector creates out of thin air, tens or hundreds of trillions of dollars per year. Sanders's Fed audit revealed $16 trillion in off-balance-sheet money creation; the question Sanders should ask is why can't we use that power of money creation in the General Welfare, to create money for a basic income for example?

    40. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      The debt is caused by the Republicans. Democrats want to spend and tax, Republicans want to spend and hope somebody else pays for it later.

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  2. Therapeutic by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally, he can devote more time to those A.A. meetings. It's both good for him and America.

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  3. Speaker of the House Boehner Cashes In by Princeofcups · · Score: 2

    So which corporation will now fork over the board positions and stock bonuses that they've been promising? It's called cashing in. Politicians are doing it younger these days so that they have more time to enjoy their ill gotten wealth.

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  4. I'm afraid by rlwhite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that this will leave the insane tea partiers in charge of the asylum that is the House of Representatives. It's like the last adult is leaving the room.

  5. Hopefully McConnell and Pelosi are next. by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reid has already announced his departure. Too many career politicians. We need new blood.

  6. Re:Boehner QA by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Expected outcome: End to gridlock, new era of bipartisan cooperation, intelligent debate, and compromise.

    Nobody expects that. The reason he is being pushed out, is that he is perceived by the right as compromising too much.

  7. Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by dywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Boehner is a devout Catholic.
    Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress.
    During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying.
    The day after the Pope's address, Boehner announces his resignation.

    We should wait and see what he actually does next following his resignation, but a part of me can't help but hope that he saw the light finally, that he saw the discrepancies between the faith he claimed, and the party he was part of for so long. One can hope.

    (*yes I know he chastised both sides)

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    1. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      My money is on he finally got a clue of the upcoming train wreck that will be the GOP and decided he didn't want to be one of the engineers driving the engine.

    2. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Give me a fucking break.

    3. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm with you on that. While I've never followed any Pope's activities before, his humble nature and the points he chooses to focus on have elevated my opinion of the man to nearly a point of reverence. The head of the church with a reasonable position on just about every issue he takes on? Remarkable This is a guy that I believe is truly seeking whats best for us all and sees the world as it is. Now if only more of us can follow his lead and release the entrenchment that has dominated for far too long.

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    4. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Possibly, but Boehner tends to cry at the drop of a hat.

      Certainly, there may have been a causal link between the pope's message and the timing of his resignation, but I'm guessing that its mostly cover so that he can resign with dignity before the imminent infighting in the Republican caucus caused him to get fired.

      He did suggest that he was planning on resigning until Eric Cantor got beaten. I can believe that because Cantor's loss was a big upset and it was likely that Cantor would have been an immediate front runner for the Speaker job. Boehner could certainly have decided to ride it out after that in the interests of continuity. I'm just not sure that it ended up helping, but it may have given him some more time to get someone else lined up who isn't a Tea Partier.

    5. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by kqs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm with you. Pope Francis is an incredible man who has demonstrated an ability to change the world with the influence of his words. I think it was a crisis of confidence.

      I'm an Atheist btw. Considering calling myself Catholic though as a result of this Pope.

      Calling yourself Catholic for that reason is kinda crazy...

      I agree that Pope Francis is an incredible man. I'm not amazed that there exist a few christians like him who read the gospels, rather than just the old testament and Paul. But I am truly astounded that the cardinals selected him.

    6. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by quonsar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Boehner is a devout Catholic. Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress. During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying.

      Boehner has invited THREE Popes to speak before Congress. It is something he has hoped to facilitate for many years. He finally succeeded, and I suspect that was a greater source of his emotion than any sort of crisis of conscience you may imagine.

    7. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by T.E.D. · · Score: 2
      I was going to disagree with you here. However, I just heard Boehner's statement. He said he made the decision last night, and he specifically mentioned the Pope's exhortation to compromise and work together (which to my mind was the most damning thing the Pope said to Congress yesterday). Also, there's this report from when he announced it privately to his conference:

      Boehner also told the lawmakers that Pope Francis' visit to Congress the day before was a crystallizing moment, according to the lawmaker. Boehner then read the prayer of St. Francis to the conference after announcing his decision.

      So yes, it looks like you were actually right on the money. It was going to happen eventually, but as to why today? The Pope did this.

  8. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    I'd be scared shitless right now if I was a moderate Republican.

    All the moderate republicans are running as democrats, Clinton, Biden...

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  9. Good Riddance by Streetlight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, wait. His replacement might be worse and the House of Representatives may get even less done. Now, it'll be interesting whether Boehner has lined up a job with an existing lobbying company or will form his own company. He'll likely make many millions, if not tens of millions, of dollars per year no matter what he does.

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    1. Re:Good Riddance by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lawmakers can fix broken laws, and even repeal them.

      But you were just playing to the peanut gallery, weren't you?

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  10. No president can raise or lower taxes by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reagan also cut more taxes than anyone in history (dangerous facts)

    No president has ever cut taxes or raised them. That's the responsibility of Congress. The President can suggest tax policies and can veto them but ultimately it is up to Congress to actually affirm or deny them. Now admittedly the President does have substantial influence on tax policy but saying Reagan or any other president raised taxes is technically incorrect. You could correctly say that he supported a tax increase or opposed one and that would be factual.

    1. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... and lets not forget that Reagan supported the tax increase only as a compromise with Congressional Democrats, who repaid Reagan by conveniently "forgetting" to uphold their promise to reduce spending.

    2. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by dywolf · · Score: 2

      he was the driving force behind at least a few of them; they're his.

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  11. Re:Boehner QA by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great. So the new guy elected Speaker either does the same out of the necessity to keep the government functional at any level, or completely destroys the Republican brand with a new completely unnecessary shutdown which only ends when he capitulates anyway.

    We've seen this before, and it won't work. Boehner was right to get out now.

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  12. Don't blame him by jd.schmidt · · Score: 3

    I probably wouldn't agree with Boehner 100% on a lot of issues, but is was pretty clear he didn't believe lots of the nonsense that came out of the far right wing of his party. I think it became too much for him to deal with.

  13. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great. So the new guy elected Speaker either does the same out of the necessity to keep the government functional at any level, or completely destroys the Republican brand with a new completely unnecessary shutdown which only ends when he capitulates anyway.

    That is the Republican brand now: get elected on a platform that consists entirely of refusing to do your fucking job. This applies to Congressmen, and all the way down to county clerks.

  14. I never would have guessed this day would come by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... amid threats from more than 30 Republicans that they would force a no-confidence vote in his speaker's position..."

    Wow! I never knew politics could be as exciting as a Star Wars movie!

    I mean, yeah, the most boring part of the most boring one, but still...

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  15. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists.

    Please elaborate on exactly how "Muslim terrorists" constitute an existential threat to America. More people die if bathtub falls and choking than die in terrorist attacks.

    Many smaller, less stable countries deal with far larger rates of things like suicide bombings without their societies being destroyed. Is America that fragile?

  16. like drug dealers by Kennon · · Score: 2

    I would cheer but you know there's just another warmonger in an expensive suit standing behind him to take his place.

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  17. Lesson learned by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    He learned just a one cannot herd cats, one cannot reason with the outright psychotics that the Teabagging Koch Brothers, et al loosed on the Republican party (and the entire country).

  18. Re:Boehner QA by kqs · · Score: 2

    That is the Republican brand now: get elected on a platform that consists entirely of refusing to do your fucking job. This applies to Congressmen, and all the way down to county clerks.

    On the plus side, at least they're telling the truth while campaigning now. I still remember W campaigning on a platform of "fiscal responsibility, trustworthiness, and no nation building". Then we got the deficit, WMD in Iraq, and, well, Iraq.

    Not that democrats are perfect, but when they say they'll try to raise taxes and increase social spending, they ain't lying.

    But I'm amazed at the people who are mad that Boehner didn't singlehandedly dismantle Obamacare/taxes/immigration/the Kenyan Dictator. He didn't have the votes, so it turns out he couldn't. The new guy won't be able to either. I wish the people who wave the constitution would occasionally read the damn thing, and that includes most of the constitution-wavers on Slashdot.

  19. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish the people who wave the constitution would occasionally read the damn thing

    The same goes for the Bible, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

  20. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by kqs · · Score: 2

    A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists.

    Please elaborate on exactly how "Muslim terrorists" constitute an existential threat to America.

    Their evil clock kinda-maybe-bomb-like devices will kill us all! Or at least kill the people with bad heart conditions and worse brain conditions.

    For that matter, how is our financial health threatened by immigrants? By all reasonable studies, immigrants improve the economies where they live and work, and deporting all of the illegal immigrants would cause a major hit to our economy.

  21. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by chilenexus · · Score: 4, Informative

    My own financial health is far more threatened by outsourcing, H1-B visas, and the threat of removing my affordable healthcare than immigrants (those people this country was built out of), and the Americans in the cars around me each day are many hundreds of times more likely to kill me than any Muslim terrorist. America suffers more Christian terrorist attacks every year than Muslim terrorist attacks within our borders, but since Christians are the majority in this country, the news refuses to phrase it that way.

  22. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

    so it's gears all the way down?

  23. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

    On the contrary; the only real threat to America and freedom is bigoted idiotic cowards like you.

    --

    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  24. Re:Boehner QA by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

    Right, and Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz flew down for photo ops in support of her liberal ideology.

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    "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  25. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by quonsar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists. They also realize that Democrats are encouraging these dangerous things. Tea Partiers, Republicans generally, and anyone not suicidal or delusional will vote for the most pro-America, pro-freedom candidate they can find.

    A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is hardly threatened by fruit & vegetable pickers and that their very existence is scarcely threatened by terrorists of any ilk. They also realize that fear-mongering Republicans are encouraging these calculated lies. Your day of reckoning is rapidly approaching.

  26. Re:Boehner QA by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember the old "You don't have to be a brain to be boss, just an Asshole." story? The Republicans apparently adopted that as gospel truth... For those of you unfamiliar with it:
    THE BRAIN SAID : Since I control everything and do all the work I should be boss.
    THE FEET SAID: Since I carry man where he wants to go and get him to do what the Brain wants, I should be boss.
    THE HANDS SAID: Since I must do all the work and earn all the money to keep all the rest of you going, I should be boss.
    THE EYES SAID: Since I must look out for all of you and tell you where danger lurks, I should be boss.
    And so it went with the Heart, the Ears, and the Lungs.
    Finally the Asshole spoke up and demanded that he be boss. All the other parts laughed and laughed at the idea of an asshole being boss.
    The Asshole was so angered that he blocked himself off and refused to function. Soon the Brain was feverish, the Eyes crossed and ached, the Feet were too weak to walk, the Hands hung limply at his side, the Heart and Lungs struggled to keep going.
    All pleaded with the Brain to relent and let the Asshole be boss, and so it happened. All parts did the work and the Asshole just bossed and passed out a lot of shit.
    MORAL: You don't have to be a brain to be boss, just an Asshole.

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    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  27. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kim Davis is a Democrat.

    Not any more!

  28. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Constitution hasn't been enforced in a long time.

    As originally written? Damn good thing, too. Slaves counting three fifths of a person, no women's suffrage, no birthright citizenship, appointed Senators, poll taxes: the original constitution was a fucking shambles, and took quite a few amendments to get functioning properly as the foundation for a modern government.

  29. Re:Translation / Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not a fan of Boehner at all, but you're just full of shit.

    He was the one of the few knowing that compromise had to happen. His party hates him because they don't think he's right wing _enough_.

    Which goes to show you how fucked the republican party really is.