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Nerves Rattled By Highly Suspicious Windows Update Delivered Worldwide

An anonymous reader writes: If you're using Windows 7 you might want to be careful about which updates you install. Users on Windows forums are worried about a new "important" update that looks a little suspect. Ars reports: "'Clearly there's something that's delivered into the [Windows Update] queue that's trusted,' Kenneth White, a Washington DC-based security researcher, told Ars after contacting some of the Windows users who received the suspicious update. 'For someone to compromise the Windows Update server, that's a pretty serious vector. I don't raise the alarm very often but this has just enough characteristics of something pretty serious that I think it's worth looking at.'" UPDATE: Microsoft says there's nothing to worry about, the company "incorrectly published a test update."

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  1. I told you so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is exactly why I disabled updates. With all of the crap MS has been trying to forcefully push out after Malware 10 was released, you're safer without them.

    1. Re:I told you so. by bondsbw · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I told you so.

      Somehow I don't believe you. Care to provide a link to the post in which you said that Microsoft would accidentally post a test package to the production Windows Update service?

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    2. Re:I told you so. by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      Don't those have signature checking?

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    3. Re:I told you so. by sexconker · · Score: 2

      The updates are signed, but the metadata is not.
      But shit from the metadata can be executed.

      http://www.contextis.com/media...

      Configuring SSL for WSUS (NOT the default, and NOT as simple as it should be) mitigates this by protecting the metadata from simple MITM attacks.

    4. Re:I told you so. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I told you so.

      Somehow I don't believe you. Care to provide a link to the post in which you said that Microsoft would accidentally post a test package to the production Windows Update service?

      Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update would happen, but unless Microsoft does something it has never ever done before, one of these days, an update that few have any option to do than let it happen, will create a huge mess.

      Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.

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    5. Re:I told you so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as I am concerned from now on, every statement from M$ is potentially a lie, and ANY OS or program from M$ is potentially full of NSA backdoors and spyware, as well as the ever-present bugs. As far as anyone knows every M$ product all the way back to the first version of DOS was/is infested the same way!

      M$, you are forever wiped from my computers and out of my life!!!

    6. Re:I told you so. by mjm1231 · · Score: 1

      Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.

      Why would only using Office help? Office updates break things plenty often in my experience.

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    7. Re:I told you so. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      What do you have against cows? Was your mother a cow?

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    8. Re:I told you so. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update

      I've had the opposite sort of "suspicious update" on a couple of machines - one that suspects it's not a real copy of windows so that you have to repeat product activation, then roll back updates and do a whole lot of new updates.
      How many times do you want to reboot today?

    9. Re:I told you so. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update

      I've had the opposite sort of "suspicious update" on a couple of machines - one that suspects it's not a real copy of windows so that you have to repeat product activation, then roll back updates and do a whole lot of new updates. How many times do you want to reboot today?

      From what I've been told, it was an update that started that mess.

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    10. Re:I told you so. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      What do you mean by "from now on"? Were you ever under the impression that Microsoft was completely truthful, or completely free of government spyware? Microsoft is a large publicly held corporation, and as such can't be completely trusted.

      As far as the first Microsoft OS goes, I'd be astonished to find there was government spyware. Personal computers then were almost never hooked up to any sort of network, and they weren't considered really important.

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    11. Re:I told you so. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.

      Why would only using Office help? Office updates break things plenty often in my experience.

      I probably should have said "simple stuff" as I haven't touched MS Office since the ribbon, except for PowerPoint. My bad.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  2. It was a test update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-accidentally-issued-a-test-windows-update-patch/

    1. Re:It was a test update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You trust ZDNet? Aren't they the ones who tried to justify and cover for Windows 10 spyware and built-in advertising?

    2. Re:It was a test update by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Does anyone seriously believe that if their servers have been compromised that they would be honest and admit it? With the Windows 10 debacle on everyone's mind it is highly likely that someone compromised their servers to prove a point that their claim that everyone's data is safe in their hands is bullshit. It really doesn't matter, because even if their claim is 100% honest it amounts to this: Microsoft cannot be trusted. Period.

      What is that you say? Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence? Oh, I totally agree, with the exception that I would say "as a rule" rather than never. The problem is it doesn't matter if you can't trust them because they are malicious, or you can't trust them because they have proved their incompetence. Either way, they have now proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they must not be trusted, because they are definitely and provably not trustworthy. We can all speculate as to why nobody should trust them, but no reasonable person would assert, as of today, that they should be trusted.

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    3. Re:It was a test update by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      For people who use their computers to do email, web surfing, light word processing, and casual games, a friendly Linux distro (Mint?) is the best option. There's a lot of those, but hardly 99% of the market. Lots of people have more specific software they use, which doesn't run on Linux, doesn't easily run under WINE, and doesn't have a drop-in Linux equivalent. For them, Linux is not an option.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    4. Re:It was a test update by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      First of all, 90 percent of people use their computers for email, web surfing, and (light?) word processing, both at home and in the office, with the exception that I'll add spreadsheet based tasks, which again is available and works great on Linux. WINE is right out. I don't care about WINE. Assume it doesn't exist for the purposes of our discussion, as I don't need it to win the point. I'm really not sure why you put the word light in there regarding word processing, actually. As a professional writer I can assure you that Linux is far more powerful than Windows for "heavy" word processing. That leaves 9 percent. Games are a non-issue, as anyone who uses their PC for games is either too cheap to buy a game box, or they can dual boot just for games. They especially don't care if they are running Windows 10 or 7/8/8.1 and they certainly don't care about updates. I'm talking about people who use their computers for serious work or home use. With the exception CAD/CAE and Photoshop (a very small percentage of the population; much less than 9 percent. In fact they are the 1 percenters), give an example of something that Linux doesn't do as well or better than can be done with Windows only applications.

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    5. Re:It was a test update by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I'm an occasional writer who's not good enough to go pro, but I have looked at some authoring tools, and haven't found any I like better than several terminal windows running vim. (Then again, don't take my word on such tools unless and until I do publish something good.) The kicker is that, if you are expected to send .docx files to Microsoft Word users, you're better off using Microsoft Word itself. Not only is it more likely to be compatible (you'd think it would be a given, but nooooo), but you've got an excuse when it isn't.

      Dual booting for games is not something typical gamers are going to do. They're going to run some version of Windows. Nor are they necessarily too cheap to buy a console, since console and PC games are not interchangeable.

      As far as serious use goes, you're going to find that lots of people use things like Quicken and TurboTax. Lots more have other programs that don't run on Linux that they use frequently enough and which they're not willing to give up. There's all sorts of things out there, genealogy software, assorted needlework software, model railroad control software, and it mounts up. These people are not going to dual-boot.

      These people are also not going to change to Mint without having replacement applications that are fairly close to drop-in, say as close as Firefox, Chrome, and Opera are to IE/Edge. This includes both functionality and ease of use. Further, it includes trust. Lots of people use Quicken because they feel safe with it because lots of people use Quicken. The TurboTax people have actually taken responsibility for their software when they got it wrong. No matter how good GnuCash is, it doesn't look as trustworthy.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    6. Re:It was a test update by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      I'm an occasional writer who's not good enough to go pro, but I have looked at some authoring tools, and haven't found any I like better than several terminal windows running vim.

      This book is quite beautiful - produced completely in emacs org mode.

      It was even written collaboratively. Export to docx works well enough in emacs org mode using pandoc. There is a discussion here

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    7. Re:It was a test update by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Your argument is Word, Quicken and Turbotax, etc. don't work on Linux. My argument is who cares. Use real tools. We will have to agree to disagree on this one, perhaps. I never said that people wouldn't have to learn how to do things properly. If you interpreted what I wrote as "People can just switch to Linux and then keep on doing everything the same way, and they'll find the ribbon bar waiting for them" then I believe you misinterpreted what I wrote, but if not then apologies for not being clear. Indeed, a switch to Linux is like switching from McDonald's to cooking healthy foods yourself. At first it seems painful, and is more work, but it isn't long before you wonder how you ever lived so foolishly before.

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    8. Re:It was a test update by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Is it your point that every grandma with a computer needs to learn Emacs? It's a very nice system, but I don't think my mother-in-law would do well with it.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    9. Re:It was a test update by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Real tools? LibreOffice is, in some respects, inferior to Microsoft Office (particularly with spreadsheets). What do you recommend as replacements for Quicken and TurboTax, bearing in mind that ease of use is an essential feature? Heck, what do you recommend to replace a certain program that interfaces a Windows computer with model railroad controls? (That's tricky stuff, by the way, since the standard's too vague.) There's lots of other programs that somebody's written for Windows and not Linux that certain people find very useful, and they frequently don't have acceptable equivalents on Linux.

      If there's software on Linux that does what you want, great. I use my Windows laptop for games, TurboTax, and stuff that I could just as easily do on my Linux box except that that it's upstairs and I'm often downstairs (files shared through Dropbox). I do some CAD stuff at work, which means I need a Windows machine there. My in-laws used to have a GPS unit hooked up in a proprietary manner to a Windows laptop, and that did require Windows. My model railroad friend needs Windows to control his trains. I know someone who uses Windows needlepoint software, and I doubt that's got an equivalent on Linux. If they were to switch, they'd lose functionality that they couldn't replace.

      It's the thousands of little applications like that that keep lots of people on Windows (and it takes only one to keep someone on Windows). After all, most people get Windows either because they don't know any better or it's most convenient or to run Windows-compatible software. People who want an audience for their software and don't want to do anything cross-platform typically write Windows-compatible software because of all the people who have Windows. It's a vicious circle, and will not be easily solved.

      If you can tell the difference between working in Windows and in Linux, you're better at this than the vast majority of the population.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    10. Re:It was a test update by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "If you can tell the difference between working in Windows and in Linux, you're better at this than the vast majority of the population."

      If I left you with the impression that I wasn't better at this than the vast majority of the population then I apologize. I chose one example at random to address. Actually it wasn't really a random choice. I chose it because I had no idea what I would find, because I could really want nothing to do with model trains, and had no idea for sure what was out there. Of course the word hacker comes has its roots in model train enthusiast from MIT, but I digress. Here is what I found:
      http://wiki.rocrail.net/doku.php
      http://www.berros.eu/en/itrain/
      http://www.dccwiki.com/DCC_Software
      http://lintrain.sourceforge.net/
      ... and the list goes on. I'm going to say that your friend, like pretty much everyone else I have ever heard claim couldn't do without Windows because there is just nothing available for Linux that can do it, is probably just ignorant. Wouldn't you agree?

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    11. Re:It was a test update by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Since I didn't mention grandma, especially every grandma with a computer, my point is not about every grandma with a computer. Every grandma with a computer doesn't claim to be a writer or an author.

      You said YOU have not found a better system than X, I pointed out a system which many people have found "better".

      You are welcome.

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      Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
  3. only a test by tomhath · · Score: 4, Interesting
    FTFA:

    Microsoft said a highly suspicious Windows update that was delivered to customers around the world was the result of a test that wasn't correctly implemented.

    They were just checking to see if you really wanted to upgrade to Windows 10

  4. Probably just some fuckery by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Could be that some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update.

    1. Re:Probably just some fuckery by MrLint · · Score: 2

      That really only applies when the split between malice and stupidity could land at the same place.

    2. Re:Probably just some fuckery by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

      You mean that Windows 10 wasn't intended to be patently evil, it's just that Microsoft are idiots?

    3. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 1

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Could be that some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update.

      What's more reasonable, that some MS drone fucked up, or that the NSA compromised their update servers to illegally wiretap every system on the planet, Batman style, just sort of hoping no one would notice? Where's Morgan Freeman when you need him?

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    4. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Could be that some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update.

      Does it really matter if it was a mistake or not? If a guy burns down my house accidentally, or he does it on purpose, my house is still burnt down.

      That's why mandatory no choice updates and the cloud are really bad ideas. The results of little mistakes can be indistinguishable from criminal intent. Either way, you lose.

      I haven't seen the update yet, but people should consider this a close shot across the bow.

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    5. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

      You mean that Windows 10 wasn't intended to be patently evil, it's just that Microsoft are idiots?

      The sad part, is that after trying out W10, I was pretty excited. Stuff worked, I could do what I needed to do, and find what I needed to find.

      But they really screwed the pooch with the telemetry and the no choice updates on everything but Enterprise. My W10 Pro sacrificial computer running Pro only allows me to put them off for a little while, and constantly nags me.

      So since I have one last piece of software that requires Windows, my sacrificial computer will run that program and only that program, and I'll do everything else on my OSX and Linux machines.

      Gawdammit!, it was a nice OS otherwise. Stupid stupidheads!

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    6. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

      What's more reasonable, that some MS drone fucked up, or that the NSA compromised their update servers to illegally wiretap every system on the planet

      Have you not been paying attention for the past decade or what? Both of those scenarios are equally plausible. Or it could be MS's latest attempt to push everyone into Spyware 10.

      I'll grant you they're both plausible, but equally plausible? Nope.

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    7. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Enigma2175 · · Score: 1

      What's more reasonable, that some MS drone fucked up, or that the NSA compromised their update servers to illegally wiretap every system on the planet, Batman style, just sort of hoping no one would notice? Where's Morgan Freeman when you need him?

      Why would the NSA need to compromise the update servers? They just send a National Security Letter to Microsoft and their backdoor gets put into the OS when it ships, they don't need to slip it into an update.

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    8. Re:Probably just some fuckery by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      The problem is, from the perspective of trying to cram Windows 10 up our asses ... there's been an awful lot of what is best called malice.

      Microsoft plans on applying this upgrade whether you like it or not, and in a lot of cases, is going to remove your control over subsequent updates ... your computer apparently belongs to them.

      So, are you suggesting we have stupid malicious assholes who are incompetently pushing out test updates in a fucking sea of unwanted updates they're intentionally obfuscating as to what they really are? Because if that's the case, Microsoft has not only jumped the shark, but they've become an incompetent cancer who have decided they don't give a fuck what they do to your computers.

      In which case, turn off Windows Update now and be done with them.

      If "some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update" he should be shot, drawn and quartered, and charged with criminally tampering with the machines of people.

      Shit like this is precisely why I have no trust in them for Windows 10 and am not prepared to take it. They didn't buy my fucking computer, I did. And the choice to upgrade is not theirs to make.

      Incompetently publishing a test update and treating me like a beta tester? Not fucking happening.

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    9. Re:Probably just some fuckery by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just stick with Windows 7 for that one app? Security updates will keep coming for 5 more years.

      For my main computer, which is running W7 via bootcamp, I'll do just that. That sacrificial computer was just a hopeful experiment

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    10. Re:Probably just some fuckery by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      An NSL doesn't require them to change code, only to hand over information they've already got or can easily get. The NSA would use other means to pressure Microsoft.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  5. Yeah, a test update... by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article...

    "We incorrectly published a test update and are in the process of removing it," a Microsoft spokesperson wrote in an e-mail to Ars. The message included no other information.

    The explanation came more than 12 hours after people around the world began receiving the software bulletin through the official Windows Update, raising widespread speculation that Microsoft's automatic patching mechanism was broken or, worse, had been compromised to attack end users. Fortunately, now that Microsoft has finally weighed in, that worst-case scenario can be ruled out.

    I'm a little leery of the Microsoft claim. Admittedly I am perhaps a bit biased against Microsoft for their having integrated a web browser into their OS kernel such that the OS can be irrevocably compromised through a simple web page, but even without that history, that company is large enough that anyone in public relations to make the, "our bad," announcement might not have any idea what actually happened from a technical point of view. On top of that the formatting of the update doesn't give any clue that it's a test update either, as it appears to make no origin claims (at least by the article's included screen shot) and is simply strange.

    Whenever I've done something as a test, I actually note in the comments that it's a damn test. I also note that I put it there. Microsoft might not want to publicly attribute something to a particular developer to intentionally obfuscate the development process from the user, but they still should have used something that identifies it as a test to the average person, and used something to make it clear to them that it's attributed to a specific person.

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    1. Re:Yeah, a test update... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      On top of that the formatting of the update doesn't give any clue that it's a test update either, as it appears to make no origin claims (at least by the article's included screen shot) and is simply strange.

      Well, from the examples given on the forum link, one thing does stand out:

      https://hckSLpGtvi.PguhWDz.fuVOl.gov
        https://jNt.JFnFA.Jigf.xnzMQAFnZ.edu
        https://IIKaR.ktBDARxd.plepVV.PGetGeG.lfIYQIHCN.mil

      .gov, .edu and .mil addresses are very restricted TLD's. This makes them great for use as 'test' URL because you can be sure they don't exist. After all, TLD's that may be fictional now (.web) might not be in the future (.site).

    2. Re:Yeah, a test update... by Dracos · · Score: 1

      Then why not use hosts on some Microsoft-owned (test) domain?

    3. Re:Yeah, a test update... by msauve · · Score: 2

      ...or *.test or *.invalid That's what they're for. Making up domains at random using valid TLDs isn't proper behavior.

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    4. Re:Yeah, a test update... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Whenever I've done something as a test, I actually note in the comments that it's a damn test. I also note that I put it there.

      There's a real possibility that you are a better programmer than the average Microsoft programmer. Really.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    5. Re:Yeah, a test update... by lgw · · Score: 3, Informative

      ".test" is a reserved test domain. There are others, including ".example", and ".invalid". I remember there being a two-letter one (".xy" I think), and a 63-letter one, but I can't find rhe RFC for those.

      I've used ".test" for years, both for test URLs and test servers.

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    6. Re:Yeah, a test update... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      There's a real possibility that you are a better programmer than the average Microsoft programmer. Really.

      Or more like he's a better programmer than the average programmer. Far too many do stuff like push to production, or edit in production, or just check in a quick "it should work" straight into source control without even compiling it.

    7. Re:Yeah, a test update... by driblio · · Score: 1

      TLS. No firmware will see these strings. Next!

    8. Re:Yeah, a test update... by TWX · · Score: 1

      There's a real possibility that you are a better programmer than the average Microsoft programmer. Really.

      Or more like he's a better programmer than the average programmer. Far too many do stuff like push to production, or edit in production, or just check in a quick "it should work" straight into source control without even compiling it.

      That is a really scary thought, given how I've evaluated my programming knowledge and experience.

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  6. Microsoft looking for new ways to fail by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're apparently not content with only failing miserably in new markets like smartphones - they're now finding ways to destroy their successful businesses as well. They should just sit on their hands and keep collecting their checks.

    1. Re:Microsoft looking for new ways to fail by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      But but but... then they're just like a utility, paying dividends and not increasing their paper wealth at those small growth stock rates!!!!

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  7. 'Test update' by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps it's just me, but on days like this it almost looks like sacking thousands of QA employees might not have been the smartest idea ever.

    1. Re:'Test update' by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      It does rather sound like that's Microsoft's new model. Ship a new version of Windows 10 every day via mandatory updates, and fix the new problems tomorrow.

  8. Don't panic by custers · · Score: 2

    "Microsoft confirmed Wednesday that a suspicious-looking update pushed out to Windows machines globally in the early hours was nothing more than a test gone errant."

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/m...

  9. Bad Summary - Sensationalist by alzoron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The summary makes it sound like this is all a mystery and insinuates that Microsoft's update servers may have been compromised, however, the linked articles state that it was simple a mistakenly pushed test patch and nothing nefarious at all.

    1. Re:Bad Summary - Sensationalist by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How long before the problematic "test" updates hit the Windows 10 environment with the forced update "feature". At least with my current Windows 7 environment, I was able to not run Windows Update until I learned of the root problem. With Windows 10, I won't have that option.

    2. Re:Bad Summary - Sensationalist by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the internet, where the content you point to might not be the same 12 hours later, even though you never changed your pointer.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  10. Non-issue - back to work by ripvlan · · Score: 2

    yeah - turns out to be a mistake. We can delete this post and all conversation after it.

    1. Re:Non-issue - back to work by PRMan · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or Microsoft covering for a government install that was caught.

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    2. Re:Non-issue - back to work by hyperar · · Score: 1

      Or Microsoft covering for a government install that was caught.

      Here, your tinfoil hat just fell off

    3. Re:Non-issue - back to work by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Slashdot didn't retract or even acknowledge a story that's an outright falsehood, so why would they do anything about this?

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    4. Re:Non-issue - back to work by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      Yeah - I had a similar thought later. Maybe MS is coding special features for gov't computers - maybe a honeypot monitoring service to catch hackers.

      Or patching a known vulnerability for just Gov computers because the NSA asked it to be left open for the general public.

      Then I turned on the TV and stopped thinking.

  11. Oh please by kuzb · · Score: 1

    The same article also explains that it was a test update that they released by accident. Human error isn't exactly unbelievable when it comes to computer software. The tinfoil hat jobs are just doing what they always do around here - spreading FUD.

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    1. Re:Oh please by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      "The same article also explains that it was a test update that they released by accident."

      No. A different article pointed to be the same URL explains that. You should probably learn how the internet works some day if you are going to make snarky comments on Slashdot.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    2. Re:Oh please by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Okay, how much responsibility did they take? Any? The Ars claim is that Microsoft said it was a test update that accidentally made it out, no further information. That's not much of an explanation. Has Microsoft apologized? Maybe, but I'm not aware of it.

      If Microsoft does something positive for people about this incident, tells us what went wrong, and actually apologizes, your comment may become relevant. It isn't now.

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  12. All your OS is belong to China hackers by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Trust?

    Silly rabbit, trust is for naive fools.

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  13. So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been reading the support forum links where people claim that their PC where nuked with this update, nothing worked, everything failed, no System Restore, bla bla bla. I'm amazed how far the MS hate goes, even making up stories.

    1. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      "I've been reading the support forum links where people claim that their PC where nuked with this update, nothing worked, everything failed, no System Restore, bla bla bla. I'm amazed how far the MS hate goes, even making up stories."

      You make a great point. It was a test update. There is no possibility at all that it would cause any problems. Wait ... why was it a test rather than a release update again?

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    2. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      "I've been reading the support forum links where people claim that their PC where nuked with this update, nothing worked, everything failed, no System Restore, bla bla bla. I'm amazed how far the MS hate goes, even making up stories."

      You make a great point. It was a test update. There is no possibility at all that it would cause any problems. Wait ... why was it a test rather than a release update again?

      I don't know, do you?, but lets give it some thought, shall we?, ok:

      1) How many people actually claims that the update break their PC... -> 1.
      2) How many people has been exposed to the update... -> Probably millions since it was global.

      I think that if this update could cause problems to PCs, we would have heard more people complaining other than that tinfoil hat idiot that makes accusations based on its ignorance and prejudice.

      We all know MS is not an angel, but i can't understand why people go as far as to making up stupid stories to harm MS, i mean, they harm themselves, they don't need our help to look stupid.

    3. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "1) How many people actually claims that the update break their PC... ->1.
      2) How many people has been exposed to the update... -> Probably millions since it was global."

      You seem to mistakenly think that all PCs have the same software including versions on them. It is entirely plausible that the people who claim to have had their PCs broken had their PCs broken. Your belief that you have proof, even inferred proof, to the contary, is absurd.

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    4. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      "1) How many people actually claims that the update break their PC... ->1. 2) How many people has been exposed to the update... -> Probably millions since it was global."

      You seem to mistakenly think that all PCs have the same software including versions on them. It is entirely plausible that the people who claim to have had their PCs broken had their PCs broken. Your belief that you have proof, even inferred proof, to the contary, is absurd.

      What's absurd is to think that that person had an unique configuration among millions of people. Let's do the following, why don't you gather some evidence other than this idiot claiming his PC died because of a test update?, i don't argue with people with prejudices.

    5. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      "1) How many people actually claims that the update break their PC... ->1. 2) How many people has been exposed to the update... -> Probably millions since it was global."

      You seem to mistakenly think that all PCs have the same software including versions on them. It is entirely plausible that the people who claim to have had their PCs broken had their PCs broken. Your belief that you have proof, even inferred proof, to the contary, is absurd.

      What's absurd is to think that that person had an unique configuration among millions of people. Let's do the following, why don't you gather some evidence other than this idiot claiming his PC died because of a test update?, i don't argue with people with prejudices.

      Forgot to mention, this dude claims his LAPTOP died because of the update, good luck finding an unique laptop configuration between millions of people.

    6. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "Forgot to mention, this dude claims his LAPTOP died because of the update, good luck finding an unique laptop configuration between millions of people."

      Holy shit. You really are clueless, aren't you? Please, prey tell, what makes a laptop fundamentally different from a desktop? For bonus points, prove that you found all the people on the planet that had problems, or claim to have had problems, online. For extra bonus points, prove that most people who had their systems hosed have a second system with which to post to forums from, and bother to post about it in a forum.

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    7. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      "Forgot to mention, this dude claims his LAPTOP died because of the update, good luck finding an unique laptop configuration between millions of people."

      Holy shit. You really are clueless, aren't you? Please, prey tell, what makes a laptop fundamentally different from a desktop? For bonus points, prove that you found all the people on the planet that had problems, or claim to have had problems, online. For extra bonus points, prove that most people who had their systems hosed have a second system with which to post to forums from, and bother to post about it in a forum.

      No, not really, you on the other hand, want to prove something without really giving any evidence just because you don't like MS. What makes Laptops different from Desktops?, really, can't you just figure it out yourself, it's pretty obvious. Again. Please, find evidence, then come back to me, i really don't have time to argue with random fanboys on the internet.

    8. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      As a software developer, hardware engineer and system administrator with more than 20 years of Linux and Windows OS experience I can tell you that the only difference between a laptop and a desktop is the current draw of the hardware and the size and cost of the system. Since your claim is that I am wrong, please do elaborate and expose me as the charlatan you no doubt will claim I am!

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    9. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There's dozens of versions of Windows 10, counting different languages. There's all sorts of applications, and an OS bug could affect only a few of them. It's easy to have a unique software configuration.

      There's also hardware configurations. Many people buy low-end laptops, for example, and those tend to be assembled from the cheapest components on the last boat from Taiwan or somewhere that pass the tests. There are millions of laptop hardware configurations out there.

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    10. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      There's dozens of versions of Windows 10, counting different languages. There's all sorts of applications, and an OS bug could affect only a few of them. It's easy to have a unique software configuration.

      There's also hardware configurations. Many people buy low-end laptops, for example, and those tend to be assembled from the cheapest components on the last boat from Taiwan or somewhere that pass the tests. There are millions of laptop hardware configurations out there.

      Wasn't this a Windows 7 Update?

    11. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      As a software developer, hardware engineer and system administrator with more than 20 years of Linux and Windows OS experience I can tell you that the only difference between a laptop and a desktop is the current draw of the hardware and the size and cost of the system. Since your claim is that I am wrong, please do elaborate and expose me as the charlatan you no doubt will claim I am!

      Hahaha, you can't be for real, so, between a desktop that one can put together choosing each part there's no difference to notebook which are sold as is with no chance (other than disk and memory) to be modified, you're telling me that, in the whole world, within the millions of people that recieved the update, there wasn't a single laptop like the one this tinfoil hat idiot had?, i don't care about which games he had installed, i'm talking about system critical components that could have rendered his laptop useless, there wasn't a single one?. Need i remark that the update didn't installed in a single PC?, Need i remark that there wasn't another person claiming that his PC was useless after it (or even having minor problems)?, Need i point out that this paraniod douchebag could be infected previously?.

      "My laptop was screwed after the update," the user, ByGodZombie, reported in a comment to this post. "Windows explorer crashes VERY frequently now and most of my programs stopped working even in admin mode. System restore didn't work and I don't have the information I need for a reinstall. Basically whatever it was killed my system and compromised my gear so I wouldn't want to look up anything sensitive to personal data on your machine."

      Need i remark that this dude claims that his PC was "compromised" by a Windows update that turned out to be legitimate and not a malware as those who jumped into conclusions to early claimed?. And last but not least: Can you point to a single, well documented problem generated by this update from a respectable source?. NO?, what a surprise, i did not see this coming. P.S.: From the internet-random-dude-making-accusations-without-giving-any-evidence.

      I don't have the information I need for a reinstall.

      Are we talking about a pirated copy of Windows here?.

    12. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      " i don't care about which games he had installed, i'm talking about system critical components that could have rendered his laptop useless"

      "I don't have the information I need for a reinstall."

      Are we talking about a pirated copy of Windows here?.

      Kid. There is an old wise saying: "Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

      "Need i remark that this dude claims that his PC was "compromised" by a Windows update that turned out to be legitimate "

      That's a strange claim, since even Microsoft isn't claiming it was legitimate.

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    13. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      " i don't care about which games he had installed, i'm talking about system critical components that could have rendered his laptop useless"

      "I don't have the information I need for a reinstall."

      Are we talking about a pirated copy of Windows here?.

      Kid. There is an old wise saying: "Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

      "Need i remark that this dude claims that his PC was "compromised" by a Windows update that turned out to be legitimate "

      That's a strange claim, since even Microsoft isn't claiming it was legitimate.

      Haha, you keep getting better, you keep posting everything but evidence to backup your claims. Then you call me kid, in a very very very poor attemp to attack me to "win" the argument since you don't have proof to backup your clams and then denied that the Test Update was issued by MS itself. Well, i'm done here, but you can keep making yourself look stupid all you want.

    14. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Dear moron. My only claim is that you don't know if the person is making it up or not. My only claim is that you have made a claim you can't prove. Unless you can prove your claim, that proves my claim. Unless you back up your claim that he is making it up, my claim stands on its own merit. I don't have to prove anything. You seem to be so stupid that you think I am claiming that the update did break his computer. That was never my claim, and any moron would understand that. OK. Well not any moron, as you don't seem to understand it.

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    15. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      " then denied that the Test Update was issued by MS itself"

      Holy shit you are fucking stupid. I didn't say M$ claimed it wasn't from them. I said M$ admitted it wasn't a legitimate update. It was an erroneous test update. You clearly don't know what the word legitimate means either. Holy fucking fuck. Your stupidity astounds.

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    16. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      " then denied that the Test Update was issued by MS itself"

      Holy shit you are fucking stupid. I didn't say M$ claimed it wasn't from them. I said M$ admitted it wasn't a legitimate update. It was an erroneous test update. You clearly don't know what the word legitimate means either. Holy fucking fuck. Your stupidity astounds.

      Oh no, you used the M$, you won the argument, oh shoot, you insulted me, i can't argue with such a strong mind, hahaha, good luck next time dude.

    17. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Imagine my surprise that you lost and are still trying to deflect your loss :-) Later loser ...

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    18. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      Imagine my surprise that you lost and are still trying to deflect your loss :-) Later loser ...

      Hahahahahahahahaha. And you call me a kid, hahahahahahahahaha.

    19. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Missed that, sorry. There's dozens of versions of Windows 7 also.

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    20. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --My friend's PC was nuked just like they are saying. You gonna call me a liar?

      --She was called into work *after having had time off approved for the day* because her primary Win7 PC crashed and System Restore would not fix it. I suspected it was a bad Win update, and the repair tech confirmed it. Her office was taking orders manually all day because of this.

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    21. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      --My friend's PC was nuked just like they are saying. You gonna call me a liar?

      --She was called into work *after having had time off approved for the day* because her primary Win7 PC crashed and System Restore would not fix it. I suspected it was a bad Win update, and the repair tech confirmed it. Her office was taking orders manually all day because of this.

      No, i'm calling you random person from the internet which doesn't present evidence other that "the update broke my friend's PC". Later saying "I suspected it was a bad Win update" really doesn't help your case.

    22. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --Try reading what I wrote again, you moron. You're making yourself look bad (again.)

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    23. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      --Try reading what I wrote again, you moron. You're making yourself look bad (again.)

      Nooo, am i making myself look bad?, Again?. Well, let's see, I guess that since you're Wolfrider, King of the Internet truth, and your friend got the day off because her PC just died and Help Desk said it was a win update (haha, which one?, did they told you?) i guess that Microsoft lied (and your friend and the other dude got owned in the whole world) and that random internet dude and you are telling the truth. Sophos Naked Security

      Because the update seems to have existed only as a test of the notification process, and not as an update package that could actually be installed, it seems to have been a fake update, too.

      So, you can stand down from red alert.

      It was a harmlessly incorrect genuine botched fake update.

      But what?, the update is a dummy file?, it can't be installed you say?, noooooo, Wolfrided was making up stories?, who would have thought it, right?.

      Was it me the one making himself look bad? Again?, well, guess again buddy.

    24. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --What are you, twelve? Buh-bye, troll. *mic drop*

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    25. Re:So it was just an error with no consequences by hyperar · · Score: 1

      --What are you, twelve? Buh-bye, troll. *mic drop*

      Haha, you trolls just keep getting better.

  14. Re:Be suspicous of every update, period by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If this continues, I wouldn't do real work on [windows] ever again.

    So this time didn't do it for you? There has to be another time? Given Win7+'s mod to auto install fixes deemed by MS to be critical, I think that time was at least years ago. Even IBM jumped ship.

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  15. can anyone explain this? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    What do they mean by "trusted?" Like a trusted software publisher? Like Microsoft...like all the updates are marked?

  16. glass houses by JediJorgie · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It is so uplifting to find so many people who have never made a mistake in their professional careers.
    I am sure those around you are giddy as they read your witty posts on Slashdot calling out "those idiots at Microsoft".
    I applaud you and the personal perfection that arms you with such stones.

  17. You can't trust *anything* from Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They won't show you the code they build from and it's *known* to contain malware.

    I'm amazed we are still having this discussion. However some people are just too stupid to move. Excuses excuses. They push the blame off (it's a non-issue because of x, y, z) or otherwise say, "but I can't do X". Well, if you don't move you'll never be able to do X. I moved in 2000 knowing full well that I wouldn't be able to do a few things and/or have to learn to do things differently. Well, in 2015 there isn't a dang thing I want to do that I can't and there hasn't been for 10 years. And then I became part of the solution too enabling other less technical users to adopt the operating systems. If you just 'give up' you'll never be able to move.

    1. Re:You can't trust *anything* from Microsoft by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Gaming on Linux is punishment. Sorta doable on OS X. Not really the fault of these OSes, but it is still true.

      Windows 10 is so scary I'm considering running a PC for gaming and a Linux PC for all other things, including just web browsing. I have dual boot, but it ends up meaning I spend less time in Linux than I should.

  18. It was only... by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 2

    a weather balloon!

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  19. Re:Be suspicous of every update, period by flacco · · Score: 1

    > now

    lol

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  20. Re: Sure you will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I might be the sort of person that needs updates foisted upon me, but I'm not sure that includes escaped test updates that brick my computer. Sure, it might make the Intarwebs a bit less crowded for a while as I and the other plebeians with Windows Home Edition try to coax a nephew into reinstalling our machines, but still, Microsoft should know a whole lot better.

  21. The truth is not out there. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows 10

    Trust no one.

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  22. Re:IDIOTS! by JediJorgie · · Score: 1

    That is way to much work for personal devices. I have the data I care about on multiple backup drives and I have a Windows install USB drive handy. If an update breaks my system, I can be back up and running in less than a hour from bare metal. The data you care about needs to be backed up anyway, so it would be nothing but a waste of time for me to review all the updates that come out. I set Windows to ask before it reboots, and beyond that, updates are automatic.

  23. Not Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I finally woke up and realised the monoculture thing is killing us. I had too many eggs in Microsoft's basket, in Google's basket, so I divested and made myself more secure.

    - I dumped Windows and went permanently to Linux
    - I dumped my Outlook.com email address and went to my own paid email
    - I dumped my iPhone and went to an Android phone I'm about to root and put on a custom ROM
    - I don't use the "cloud" for backups. I backup locally x3, plus bank vault 3x year, plus encrypted SD card x2 on person. If all these go wrong, I'm screwed.

    I'm done being a product, I want to be a customer.

  24. you can't trust Windows Update any more. by swschrad · · Score: 1

    whatever crap is lying around, evil, benign, or beneficial, rolls out the same way. there is nothing in the description. MS is using misdirection to trick you into installing Win10. these guys are getting as bad as botmasters. auto-updates are turned off on my home machines, and if I can't determine whether something is important, it doesn't get installed.

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  25. I want to upgrade to OS/X by swschrad · · Score: 2

    MonsterSlop, however, is not listing that in the descriptions.

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  26. Black Hat holy grail. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This right here would be what makes black hats drool. Get a payload in the Windows update server that is signed with keys that pass. you do that and you utterly own 60% of the internet in a span of 8 hours.

    If you were smart about it, you would do a quick test that is benign. changing only 2 bytes in a MS patch and then look for it. If that works you get your best rootkit that you can conceive and get it out there. now WAIT for about 25-45 days and have it download and install the nasty that you want to unleash.

    Luckily 99% of the black hats are so ADD that they shoot their load as soon as they can and brag all over the internet. It's that 1% that you never hear about and are never caught that are the truly dangerous ones.

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    1. Re:Black Hat holy grail. by jafac · · Score: 1

      It's that 1% that you never hear about and are never caught that are the truly dangerous ones.

      . . . you mean, the NSA. . .

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  27. testtesttest enter your credit card here testtest by swschrad · · Score: 1

    they're still fscking weasels, whether it's Microsoft or malicious. uh, wait, it's too hard to tell them apart, now.

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  28. Re:why .GOV links??? by hyperar · · Score: 1

    A test or not, but why are there .gov hyperlinks in the MS update pages???? is this for real that MS is directing us to U.S. government websites?

    Most likely is to make sure that those don't exists, since they are pretty restricted access TLDs, anyone can get a .com, or a .org, pretty much nobody can get a .gov

  29. Terrible summary by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    At the very least, you could have briefly explained what was suspicious about it.

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  30. Yes, Microsoft Windows Update is compromised by idontgno · · Score: 1

    By Microsoft.

    Anyone who blindly installs updates deserves all the crap they get.

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  31. Nothing to worry about by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

    It's just some untested code forcibly installed on your computer due to a flaw in the release process.

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  32. Re:cant beleive people are still patching windows by mrbester · · Score: 1

    Blaster? I still giggle about Code Red and Nimda.

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  33. comment subjects are stupid by jafac · · Score: 1

    UPDATE: Microsoft says there's nothing to worry about, the company "incorrectly published a test update."

    But what if someone compromised the Slashdot Update?

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  34. Huh by koan · · Score: 1

    All I can say is "Win10 auto update"

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  35. Re: Sure you will. by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bullshit. No OS is "well made" enough that it will never need security updates. Not Windows, not MacOS, not Linux, not *BSD.

    This is why it's really, really important for OS providers to maintain a trustworthy update service. If they use it for advertising purposes, or sell it out to various government agencies, or allow incompetent personnel to push "test" updates to the entire planet, it's no longer trustworthy. That means their OS itself is no longer trustworthy, if in fact it ever was.

    Nobody at Microsoft seems to have the first clue how important Windows Update actually is, and how important it is not to screw with it. Windows Update is Windows, not just in a de-facto sense but as a vital corporate strategy. It's time they started acting like it.

  36. Microsoft update causes Brain Damage! by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

    Nerves rattled? Scanning the title I thought a Microsoft update literally caused Brain Damage that caused users' pointer fingers to shake uncontrollably on top of their mouse.

  37. So the accidently pushed test code... by DarkOx · · Score: 1

    So Microsoft potentially pushed test code to everyone's production systems. That makes me feel so much better.

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  38. Re:Coren22 CRUSHED & dominated (by facts) by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Mooo says the cow, MOOO

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  39. actually by gzuckier · · Score: 1

    a 14 year old Muslim kid put it together from spare parts. he took it to school and told everybody he built a Windows 7 update.

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