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Chrome AdBlock Joining Acceptable Ads Program (And Sold To Anonymous Company)

basscomm writes: Hot on the heels of the formation of the independent board to oversee "acceptable ads", users of the popular Chrome ad blocking extension, AdBlock, got notice that AdBlock is participating in the program, and that acceptable ads are being turned on by default. At the bottom of the announcement, buried in the fine print is word that AdBlock has been sold, but nobody will say to whom.

352 comments

  1. Time to let it die by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads

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    1. Re:Time to let it die by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry, Chrome.

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    2. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There goes the neighborhood... Time to get another ad blocker.

    3. Re:Time to let it die by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or you could just uncheck the "Allow some non-intrusive" advertising check box...

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    4. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think it sounds like a good idea in theory. If the 'approved ads' are just jpeg files saying 'Buy our stuff' with links to a legit website, I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind ignoring a few ads as I browse to support the sites I use. Problem is, I don't trust anyone to do just that, and not annoying or potentially dangerous ads running a dozen different scrips linking who to who knows where if you happen to click it. I see no reason to just assume the approved ad program of the new mystery buyer has the best interests of user in mind.

    5. Re: Time to let it die by Streetlight · · Score: 2

      Or, move to Firefox and use the mu blocker.

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    6. Re:Time to let it die by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      " I wouldn't mind ignoring a few ads as I browse to support the sites I use"

      I'm sorry but it's just stupid how they work. I bought 2 dozen pairs of socks 2 weeks ago at landsend and now (where I won't need any socks for some time...) I get bombarded with socks ads in my unadblocked browser as well as every goddamn landsend ad that exists.

    7. Re:Time to let it die by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      If it were limited to banner adds shown I wouldn't care. It's invisiible whole-browser overlays and popups that I would consider unacceptable, along with autoplay video ads in sidebars.

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    8. Re:Time to let it die by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      If I surfed to "x.com" I don't consider it reasonable to find my browser heading over to "y.com"

      If, as a webmaster, you don't source your own ads, then I'm strongly inclined to block your advertising.

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    9. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't firefox embed ads on your new tab page?

    10. Re: Time to let it die by kheldan · · Score: 2

      Yep, sounds to me like it just became malware; maybe it should be rebranded as 'AdFeeder' instead of 'AdBlocker'?

      Remove, overwrite, delete, find a replacement.

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      Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
    11. Re:Time to let it die by spitzak · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was amused when I bought a blender online. I was deluged with ads for blenders! Hint: since I now have a brand-new blender, I am actually the least-likely person to want to buy a blender!

      I think I made it worse because I also searched for Blender the software.

    12. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have the option enabled, then yes

    13. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads

      Yep.

      Chrome has never been relevant except on walled garden Mac's where they gave you a somewhat working Flash renderer included with Chrome.

      And Mac has never been relevant to anybody who uses Linux.

      And Firefox works on all of them. Add Ghostery, Adblock, and NoScript to Firefox and you get a very doable web surf on all platforms.

    14. Re:Time to let it die by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads

      So then. Tell me how it feels to steal from Slashdot? After all that is what you are doing with ublock.

      I want to support websites with ethical ads that do not serve malware. Adblock is perfect!
      - No annoying video ads
      - No sound ads
      -No redirects where you have to hit somewhere else to go back to original site
      - No malware or sub contracts to any other ad network which usually does not have great security teams to check for malware/viruses
      - No zombie cookies in flash that can't be deleted

      If Slashdot wanted to be an asshole and use the worst ads with +30 ad networks per click they would get 0 money from me on adblock.
      If Slashdot wants to be ethical but raise money. Then they will get money from me on adblock.

      What is fair? Hosting Slashdot is certainly not free. Want to pay a subscription instead? I think adblock is perfect and ads a financial motivation for ad networks to be ethical and stop insane tracking and not infecting people with malware for ask toolbars and compromising the security of their systems.

      Come on. You can't have it both ways as all you are doing is encouraging HTML 5 ads that can't be blocked or worse HTML 6 mandated DRM ads that can't be turned off where websites on non win32 platforms won't load or something else website owners and ISP's will enforce next to maximize on money. Here is a hint. They do not care about you. Sorry.

    15. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads"

      One of the few independent news sites on the net without ads and is supported through donations.

      http://therealnews.com

    16. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or, move to Firefox and use the mu blocker.

      The Moo blocker, you said?

    17. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It feels great, thanks for asking.

      You hit the nail on the head with "They do not care about you", and I take that attitude towards "them" as well, extending to most everything in the modern corporate dominated-world.

      They would like me to display their ads, but I'd rather not use my bandwidth, nor my computers resources to display ads for their benefit. I can use these sites without the ads, so I will; if there comes a time when I can't, then I'll decide between viewing them with ads or not viewing them at all. I don't have to make that decision yet, but if I (we?) ever do, I suspect it'll be the sites that suffer more than I do.

    18. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox, the slowest browser on all platforms. Kudos for getting your anti-Mac hate on too

    19. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Firefox, the slowest browser on all platforms. Kudos for getting your anti-Mac hate on too

      I've used all browsers. links lynx elinks name it all of it. My hardware is fast enough that Firefox absolutely flies, blocks everything I want it to, and I use it on Win/Mac/BSD/Linux/Android. I prefer it on Linux/BSD. The variants like Waterfox and Pale Moon are ok but straight original Firefox works great.

      But yeah... say the truth about Mac and the gaybobs gonna chirp ikr. Mac is a walled garden. Does this make you joyous? Glad? Sad? It's an emotional deal for you isn't it. I just like the best, that is all. I try them all too, and have for decades.

      First thing I do in Mac OS X is install XQuartz. Mac becomes the unnecessary middleman immediately. Actual BSD and Linux are cooler than Mac OS X. Again, I use them all.

      Firefox has been great since Mozilla Suite days... including the name change to Phoenix (oh darn trademark) then to Firefox and all that jazz... and even SeaMonkey is cooler to use than Chrome or Chromium. I keep a SeaMonkey Portable extracted on Windows installs for the hell of it too.

      In Linux/BSD... Konqueror has had it's good years. Just right now, it's still Firefox that's best. It's been this way since Mozilla Suite. I've always checked out any new browser... on each platform too.

      You can have your I-think-it's-fast piece of shit Chrome though. Sorry that you have such strong feelings for that piece of shit Fisher Price browser. Chromebooks "are better than Windows" too... and of course especially if you are pre-teens.

      There are other good things about Firefox but I won't bother your walled garden with such things. Enjoy Tim Cook's OS and Chrome. No hate, I will just think you don't understand the difference.

    20. Re:Time to let it die by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 1

      Why? Annoying and insecure ads are the biggest reason to use an AdBlocker. If this message finally got through and we will start seeing "acceptable" ads, which for me would mean a simple, clickable image or text, without sound, animation, popup, or tracking, then I wouldn't mind seeing them if it supports the sites.

    21. Re:Time to let it die by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      So then. Tell me how it feels to steal from Slashdot? After all that is what you are doing with ublock.

      Slashdot gives me the option to turn off ads, but I have not done so. I do use adblock, but that is because slashdot is not the only site on the internet and other sites have ruined it for all.
      I think it is disingenuous to call it "stealing" from someone just because you won't allow them to use your bandwidth and your time and your computation resources and install malicious code, viruses and spyware on your computer. If I lock my door, am I "stealing" from a robber?
      If you consider it stealing to not display an ad, you might as well consider it stealing to not buy every product advertised at you. The site would get a lot more money if you actually bought the products. In many cases, they get NOTHING for displaying an ad, only for clicks. Sometimes, only for clicks that lead to purchases. So if you don't purchase every single thing that is advertised at you, you are stealing.

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    22. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This gives me some hope, because it means advertisers are much dumber and complacent about their work than I was expecting.

    23. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same experience, I see ads for an online place I already went to for shopping and for an item I have already bought.
      WEW GUGOAL AND PALS, GOOD WORK WITH ALL YOUR ALGOS.

      Tracking for advertisement purposes is BS, tracking is for info and info is power.

    24. Re:Time to let it die by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

      Only takes 3 clicks to turn off the "acceptable ads" option: AdBlock > Options > Un-check "Allow some non-intrusive advertising".

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    25. Re:Time to let it die by BVis · · Score: 1

      After all that is what you are doing with ublock.

      You seem to think that the more something is repeated, the truer it gets. Nope. This was bullshit the first time someone argued it, it's bullshit now.

      I am stealing nothing. This content is freely available to anyone with a browser. I am under no obligation to view anything that I do not want to; therefore I block as many ads as possible. My eyeballs, my rules. I can instruct my browser to not download anything I don't want to see, therefore I do. That is not stealing. That is choosing what content I want to see. You may as well say that by not clicking through an ad and buying something from the advertiser, I'm stealing from the site the ad is on. I am under no obligation to buy anything from the advertiser. Why am I therefore obligated to view the ad? I'm not going to buy anything from an obnoxious ad, so showing me an ad wastes my bandwidth and time, as well as the ad network's resources. Wouldn't it be better to not view the ad in the first place, if it's going to be completely ineffective? Essentially, I'm costing the advertising network money. Wouldn't it be better if that money weren't wasted?

      If Slashdot wants to be ethical but raise money. Then they will get money from me on adblock.

      If you keep feeding the stray dog, it will never leave you alone. Similarly, if you keep supporting the current advertising model (which is a complete sewer) there will be no incentive to change.

      What is fair? Hosting Slashdot is certainly not free. Want to pay a subscription instead? I think adblock is perfect and ads a financial motivation for ad networks to be ethical and stop insane tracking and not infecting people with malware for ask toolbars and compromising the security of their systems.

      Adblock would be great if they didn't sell you out all the time with their "acceptable ads" bullshit. No advertising is acceptable to me. I don't care how innocuous. At one time I put up with it for the reasons you suggest; no longer. The advertising industry, instead of recognizing the problem (their ads suck and are obnoxious), has decided to double down on the 'suck' instead of, I don't know, improving their product. But, what do you expect from people who drank their way through college and got a 2.01 GPA?

      Come on. You can't have it both ways as all you are doing is encouraging HTML 5 ads that can't be blocked or worse HTML 6 mandated DRM ads that can't be turned off where websites on non win32 platforms won't load or something else website owners and ISP's will enforce next to maximize on money. Here is a hint. They do not care about you. Sorry.

      And that's the problem. They consider it their birthright to shove marketing into my eyeballs like I'm Alex in A Clockwork Orange. If my choices are to have their shit shoved into my eyeballs or not visiting a page, I won't visit a page. Simple. By turning people off they're strangling themselves; if there are no sites for them to put ads on, they have no business. I'm just helping the process. It's the free market in action.

      Think of it this way. The way we "pay" for sites right now is by viewing ads; you could consider the time and effort you waste seeing advertising as a "cost". What a lot of people don't realize is that companies do not price their products based on their costs to produce them; they charge as much as they can until they reach people's "balk" price. For example, if I will pay $5 for a widget, then they price that widget at $4.99. If they price that widget at, say, $6.99, I won't buy it. I balk at the price. The price of viewing content with obnoxious ads has become too high; it has passed people's "balk" price. The nice thing here is that the user can affect the price that they pay by not viewing advertising by using an ad blocker. It's a flaw in the system that people are taking advantage of. Fix the system (by making ads less fucking obnoxious) and people will stop balking.

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    26. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seeing them doesn't support the site. It's when you click them is what makes them money. So go ahead and keep thinking that by you viewing all their shitty ads is helping them. It's not.

    27. Re:Time to let it die by hucker75 · · Score: 1

      Why? Adblock told me it was doing this, and asked if I wanted to override it and block everything, which I obviously selected. There is no such thing as an acceptable ad.

    28. Re:Time to let it die by AnnaZed · · Score: 1

      Which is what? (serious question)

    29. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was amused when I bought a blender online. I was deluged with ads for blenders!

      What I found more amusing was that when I searched for RC copters, I saw nothing but ads for copters - that specific model, from that specific website.

      Another hint: if I've left Bob's website, either (a)I've bought my widget (as the parent did), or (b) I wasn't happy with what I found there. Would've been thrilled to see a bunch of ads for other models at other sites - comparison shopping, doncha know - but it ended up feeling like the store was following me around the mall going "hey, don't forget we have this thing! Did I mention we have this thing!"

    30. Re:Time to let it die by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      I use the FOSS Privacy Badger.

      With it I have to view the trackers, etc. and decide which I will block. I obviously block all moving / audio annoying adverts and some that I just don't want to see each time I visit a page of a particular website.

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    31. Re:Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be worst. I searched for that software that analyze and find dependency of software (source and compiled). And of course I did so at work.

      It's called "Depends" ... search for it ... I DARE YOU !

    32. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't use Firefox because after all of these years, it STILL has a massive memory hole. The Mozilla team are arrogant and incompetent morons.

      The best browser around is still Opera. They are the only ones who have ever innovated on browser tech and everyone else just steals their ideas because they can't come up with their own.

    33. Re:Time to let it die by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry but it's just stupid how they work.

      It's beyond stupid, Buy product x online, then get bombarded with ads for product x for months afterwards. Even though you are now the least likely person to buy product x because you already own it. It really makes Google look like a bunch of morons, and I can't figure out for the life of me why any advertiser would pay them for such a stupid service.

    34. Re: Time to let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't use Firefox because after all of these years, it STILL has a massive memory hole. The Mozilla team are arrogant and incompetent morons.

      The best browser around is still Opera. They are the only ones who have ever innovated on browser tech and everyone else just steals their ideas because they can't come up with their own.

      Fat lady sang.

      Opera sucks ass.

  2. Ogden Nash by Tokolosh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The cow is of the bovine ilk;
    One end is moo, the other, milk.

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  3. If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ABP was born out of the endless frustration of unwanted banners and spam. So once they start allowing it back in then i am betting someone will take over the torch and build a new blocker.

    If you want your products sold, then make a good product! The forums and people will take care of the rest.

    When you solely really on spam then your product must be crap or overpriced or redundant.

    Seriously, if pages are annoying then there are 10.000 others to choose from. These guys need another business model..

    1. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Adblock is different from Adblock Plus.

    2. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nevermind. It seems that Adblock Plus runs the Acceptable Ads Program. Sigh.

    3. Re:If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nevermind. It seems that Adblock Plus runs the Acceptable Ads Program. Sigh.

      Go to "Filter preferences" and disable "Allow some non-intrusive advertising".

    5. Re:If abp falls then another will rise by west · · Score: 1

      If you want your products sold, then make a good product! The forums and people will take care of the rest.

      I'm going to take a wild guess here, and guess that you've never been within a 100 miles of running a real business :-).

    6. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by cfalcon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Go to Firefox or Chrome store and get "uBlock Origin". Then use that.

    7. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had issues with ublock and ublock origin so I stay away from them in Firefox. It's easier to run adblock plus with element blocker, ghostery and no script.

    8. Re:If abp falls then another will rise by Keybounce · · Score: 1

      Seriously, if pages are annoying then there are 10.000 others to choose from. These guys need another business model..

      The problem is, I'm not looking for web pages. I'm looking for specific content.

      There may be hundreds of millions of other pages, but how many Schlock Mercenary's are there? How many antipope.org's are there?

      Charlie Stross's personal/author blog? Sure, there are other authors with blogs. I happen to like what he has to say.
      Web comics? Yea, I've got a list of things I read. And there's stuff that I don't read.

      Nothing else is an exact match for Irregular Web Comics, or Schlock Mercenary, or Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, or ....

      There are things that can do a partial substitution. There's a bunch of lego comics; there are other decent story comics. And there's my personal choice for "best of the bunch".

      What do a lot of these sites have in common? Oddly, now that I think about it, they make money by selling merchandise/books, not by selling ads on-screen. Hmm.

    9. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by NotThisMind · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with ABP? on FF ofc.

    10. Re: If abp falls then another will rise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. AdBlockPlus bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

  4. They came with truckloads of money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alphabet ?

  5. Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand, is it for Chrome only? I use AdBlock with Safari, does it affect me or not?

    I don't know if there are multiple entities named AdBlock or if all the same...

    1. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand, is it for Chrome only? I use AdBlock with Safari, does it affect me or not?

      I don't know if there are multiple entities named AdBlock or if all the same...

      AdBlock is not ABP (Adblock Plus). Both are available for Chrome, Safari, Firefox & Opera.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus

      http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/29/2152225/which-is-better-adblock-or-adblock-plus

  6. uBlock Origin by eWarz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I use uBlock Origin. Works better than adblock. Flashblock, uBlock, and Ghostery. Nice fast load times.

    1. Re:uBlock Origin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use a custom HOSTS file. It works great regardless of how much these comapnies sell out. Highly recommended.

    2. Re:uBlock Origin by Threni · · Score: 2

      This. Along with noscript and cookieselfdestruct, all of which work under Firefox on Android. What's not to like? I stopped using Chrome just so I could run plugins on my tablet and phone. I've no idea what's taking Google so long supporting plugins on Chrome on Android, but I no longer care.

    3. Re:uBlock Origin by cfalcon · · Score: 2

      You'll have to deal with more of a broken web with a custom hosts file, but it is a more solid option.

    4. Re:uBlock Origin by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      I've no idea what's taking Google so long supporting plugins on Chrome on Android, but I no longer care.

      Why would an advertising company want you to block ads in their web browser?

      Google must be crapping themselves at the growth of ad-blocking. And, to be fair, their ads aren't the kind that people really want to block, but they'll be collateral damage as everyone starts blocking everything.

    5. Re: uBlock Origin by Threni · · Score: 1

      Well, the question is why do they let you block them on the desktop but not mobile.

    6. Re: uBlock Origin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what APK fails to mention in his endless spam touting HOSTS files, is that they fail 100% of the time if the ads are interstitial and inserted by your ISP or DNS service (and no, not everyone can run their own DNS server, thanks to many ISPs locking down ports and connections).

    7. Re: uBlock Origin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can change your DNS service easily.

      As for the ISP, if that company really inserts ads, let the better business bureau and the FCC know (or whatever entities fulfill this role in your country) and, as a last resort, get a lawyer and sue them.

    8. Re: uBlock Origin by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      How would that work?

      Running your own DNS server in caching mode looks to the ISP exactly like your own computer requesting name resolution. I run a caching DNS server on Verizon, it is set to point to the root DNS servers, how would they block that? If they decide to block access to the root, you instead forward to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, if they try to block that, it is time to get another ISP, or sue their asses for interfering with your usage of their product.

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  7. Not Anonymous! by Hardness · · Score: 2

    They were sold to Adblock Plus.

  8. the register says AdBlock plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/02/adblock_flogged_off_to_mystery_buyer/

    Makes sense given the acceptable ads announcement

  9. bye bye Adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Take the money and run - don't blame him

  10. AdBlock is being blocked by YouTube by pigsycyberbully · · Score: 0

    AdBlock is being blocked by YouTube. If the YouTube video is trying to feed you adverts then they will block your viewing of the YouTube video until you switch off AdBlock. Google/YouTube are trying to promote the idea around the www to other websites. I use firewall rules to block oneclick AdWords. YouTube is trying other methods to force-feed you as well I like the challenge I have too much time on my hands I like blocking them. If somebody else doesn't you can use a program called YouTube-dl to download the videos to your download direction and watch whenever you like. YouTube has gone to war with AdBlock.

    1. Re:AdBlock is being blocked by YouTube by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Considering that most video content I see on the internet is from some self-loading player that I don't want, I hope YouTube passes around the technology as much as possible. I don't mind watching a short ad for a video I want to see, but most video is stuff I don't want. Slashdot started doing this shit recently so I turned on the disable ads feature for the site. The lightweight, graphic ads never bothered me, but anything that makes noise or eats up a lot of bandwidth or CPU can piss off. I wonder how popular a campaign to promise advertisers who use those annoying ads that we will never buy their product again until they quit would be.

  11. Adblock Edge? by ukoda · · Score: 2

    In the early days of Chrome one of the reasons I stayed with Mozilla was ad blockers. When Adblock Pro tried that trick on Mozilla I switched to Adblock Edge. I assume Chrome users will do the same or if they can't find a proper ad blocker will then switch browser.

    I started blocking ads because animated GIFs were too distracting to my thought processes. Now blocking ads is simple Internet security 101, just way too dangerous not to, and despite 'acceptable ad' programs is still an attack vector with no benefits if left open.

    1. Re:Adblock Edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with no benefits if left open.

      You might find this interesting.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

    2. Re:Adblock Edge? by Freultwah · · Score: 1

      Adblock Edge has been discontinued, the developers recommend migrating to uBlock.

    3. Re:Adblock Edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In particular, use uBlock Origin, the maintained version.

  12. Whac-a-Mole strategy wont work by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

    The ad industry probably believes it can stop the growth of ad blocking by consigning the big ad blocking apps and hoping users either wont notice 'approved' ads creeping into their browsing experiencing or that they'll be too lazy to find a replacement. But this is not like changing the default search engine of a browser to increase search traffic - ad blocking users are a much more motivated group. Not to mention that waving greenmail in the front of AdBlock will only encourage other developers to create their own software to cash in on the largess.

    1. Re:Whac-a-Mole strategy wont work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also have to keep in mind the FLOSS nature of adblocking software.

      1. repo clone or dump,
      2. revert acceptable ad commit,
      3. change readme to remove trademark,
      4. upload source to github or somewhere,
      5. put addon/extension in appropriate stores,
      6. spread the word,
      7. become popular,
      8. and finally, profit.

  13. AdBlock easily defeated anyway by popo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Aside from being defeated by loads of different adblock blockers (as well as the standard http://blockadblock.com/ generated scripts) there are loads of networks like PageFair that bypass AdBlock anyway. So "letting" acceptable ads through strikes me as a best option in a losing battle.

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    1. Re:AdBlock easily defeated anyway by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      I don't think it's a losing battle, just a constant cat and mouse arms race. As ad developers create new technologies to circumvent blockers, ad blockers will find new ways to defeat those countermeasures. Though the ad blockers will probably stay perpetually ahead most of the time.

      Why? Because sites that host these ads lack the agility afforded to ad blocker developers. They can't sit there and change things at the drop of a hat because it might break their site, which is much worse than making sure that somebody sees a few extra ads. Meanwhile ad blockers have little to no risk, and even if something breaks, the end user can temporarily suppress the blocker.

      However an acceptable ads policy is, IMO, an acceptable compromise. Ads don't bother me, but ads that get in the way of whatever I'm trying to do (or play audio during quiet time) and/or waste bandwidth do bother me. Besides, unless you want to pay for every site you visit, you're going to end up with advertising at some point.

    2. Re:AdBlock easily defeated anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just like any arms race, there are now anti-adblock-blockers and adblock-blocker blockers.

  14. How many more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet they are all being offered a buy out by the same shady ad service just itching to bombard our phones and tablets, eating our data plans like cotton candy at the fair. Any opensource ones out there? You can make them stagnate with enough cash ( from the original crew, forks not withstanding ) but at least you cant 'buy' them.

  15. switch to microblock by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://github.com/chrisaljoud...
    faster, more efficient, and doesnt have a guilty conscience about blocking ALL the ads.

    while you're at it,
    http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho...

    block advertisers by null routing them.

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    1. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Host files do not null-route, they just instruct the resolver to give a "fake" response to name resolution queries. You can actually null-route advertisers if you know their ASNs (autonomous system numbers). Then you can use whois to look up their IP ranges and create null-routes to those ranges.

      For example, if you want to block all of Facebook, you find their ASNs (AS32934 and AS54115*), then you query the radb whois like this: whois -h whois.radb.net '!gAS32934' and whois -h whois.radb.net '!gAS54115'

      How you put that into your firewall or into your router depends on the details of your solution.

      *) Who allows this shit? There aren't two Facebooks, so why are there two ASNs? There are only 1024 addresses allocated to the second ASN. Are they cheating due to IPv4 address shortage?

    2. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does 0.0.0.0 hostdomainblocked.com do in hosts? What's 0.0.0.0 do there? Answer's a nul route not loopback adapter address like 127.0.0.1.

    3. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Irrelevant. The hosts file tells the resolver not to go to the DNS server and instead use 0.0.0.0 in place of the real address for the given domain name. This does not null-route the advertisers, and can "easily" be circumvented by using IP addresses instead of domain names to load the ads. Actual null-routing prevents connections to an ASN no matter what. The difference is like removing a road sign vs. putting up a road block.

    4. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i 3 hosts file.

      38,000 sites blocked and growing. it's rare to ever see an ad after you get all the big ad networks blocked.

    5. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Yes 0.0.0.0 does. Your IP stack refuses ads or known bad sites using it! Avoiding dns is a good idea. Its not patched @ 99% of ISPs vs kaminsky flaw redirect poisoning or abused Open DNS (not OpenDNS itself) servers or rogue ones inserted into your ip stack settings or routers. Admins of dns servers should love hosts file users. They lighten their loads and since dns goes down plenty hosts actually help dns admins.

    6. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, APK. Manipulating DNS or overriding it with a hosts file is not null-routing. Creating null-routes for IP addresses is null-routing.

    7. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously one is Facebook, and the other is Facebook (brought to you with love by the NSA).

    8. Re:switch to microblock by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      Can I port my Adblock Plus Element Hiding Rules into uBlock? And does it have a similar element hiding helper?

    9. Re:switch to microblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does 0.0.0.0 do in hosts files? TELL US won't you?? You keep avoiding that (moron).

  16. can you dice fucks add a spam filter already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and pay a guy to shoot apk in the fucking head?

    1. Re:can you dice fucks add a spam filter already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kill yourself

    2. Re:can you dice fucks add a spam filter already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. It's not.

  17. Ow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please rewrite that whole fucking thing in English. Thank you.

    1. Re:Ow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, APK, you fail. It's obvious when you're posting in the third person, "defending" APK's "brilliance". We can tell it's you, every time.

    2. Re:Ow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what I see. You can't prove apk wrong. You abuse downmod him but we see his posts anyway. You're delusional thinking otherwise.

    3. Re: Ow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My way is much easier, I just ignore apk and pass on by his crap and yours. Problem solved.

  18. Symbiotic parasite by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm all for acceptable ads and acceptable tracking, afterall we all liked the benefit we got from durable cookies in the early pre-cancerous stages of the internet. that sort of tracking is not inherently bad by itself. But then it metastisized and it became neccessary to block it. So yay for ad blockers.

    But that just becomes an arms race. So enter "acceptable ads" in which certain ads are allowed in hopes of creating a viable not escalating equilibrium where the commercialization model of the internet is not soley based on pernicious forms of advertising. I don't know if this new equilibrium can be forced but as the new york times demonstrated the tracking and targeting consumes at least 1/3 of the web bandwidth we pay for, so it's worthy just to check that aspect.

        But when it becomes commercialized like ad block or ghostery one feels like it's a symbiotic parasite. It leaves you vulnerable to smaller subset of actors who did nothing more than pay to have access to you, the meat being sold by ghostery and ad block. it's like paying off the somali pirates or highway robbers to let coiaches pass. I became the product. yet at the same time it gives me a free benefit.

    Should I like this tapeworm that helps me shed unwanted pounds of bandwidth destroying ads and infective tracking systems? At the moment, the answer is there is no other answer.

    Either way, letting in the big corp. ads deemed acceptable-for-cash or going nuclear on all ads indiscimiately, ultimately narrows the information I get.
    However in one case, it limits which ads I see, and in the other it limits the profitability of sites trying to make a living with ad based bussiness models. I'd not want to choke off the free content I get, just to see fewer ads.

    I think think acceptable ads, as competition heats up for the service will let me pick gate keepers that force advertisers not to chew up my bandwidth or "excessively" track me.

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    1. Re:Symbiotic parasite by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The answer you end up with depends on who you think started it, yes some websites took advertising too far and users hated it. But instead of using the sites that had "acceptable" ads and stop using the sites that had "annoying" ads, the solution was to start blocking ads. Now I don't subscribe to the whole "blocking ads is stealing" tripe but obviously the whole point of ads is that people see them. If everybody blocks them, there no point in paying for them and so the sites don't get any funding and the model breaks down. And it was the low-hanging fruit that mostly got hurt, the scummy sites with annoying ads were also the ones who'd most quickly resort to circumvention techniques to shove the ads in your face anyway.

      The assumption here is that at least some users will be nice and accept to see som ads, if you're going to do that why not go for a real opt-in system? Tag all the advertising elements on your page with an <div class="ad">(ad goes here)</div>. Publish an advertising policy, like robots.txt Kindly ask ad blockers to replace ads tagged as such with "This website relies on advertising revenue to operate. You are currently blocking ads. Please click here to unblock and support our site."

      If you click it, you get a dialog saying:
      "This site has requested you to unblock ads. Their advertising policy is as follows:

      Banner ads: Yes
      Animated ads: No
      Ads with sound: No
      Interstitial ads: No
      Pop-ups: No
      Pop-unders: No

      [Unblock ads] [Cancel]

      You may at any time block ads again by.... (explanation)"

      Of course you could have dick ad blockers that just remove the ads, but I think the popular ones could be convinced to play nice. Sites wouldn't have to get on any approval list tied to any particular blocker and everyone would decide for themselves what sites they want to support. No money for just being click bait, users have to actually like you enough to unblock. Not sure it'd work, but if that won't work then "acceptable ads" won't either.

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    2. Re:Symbiotic parasite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't the scummy sites who did annoying ads. They just generally were first and had more of them. It's not adblocking that spread pop-overs to basically everywhere, it's because the fuckers can get away with it with most users. The web can't work by knowing in advance where every click goes either or when they last changed ad strategy, so you can't expect people to just not go to sites that have shit ads.

    3. Re:Symbiotic parasite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My main reason for blocking ads is for security reasons. We've seen several cases where large corporations that run ads (Google and Yahoo included) ended up having malware infested ads snuck into their system and fed to the world. It can happen to any service, and by the time they do anything about it, it's probably too late if you're just letting every ad they force on you load. Even if I trust the site I'm actually going to, it doesn't mean I trust their advertisers.

      If the ads are static images hosted by the very site I'm actually surfing to, I'd have no particular reason to block them, and ad blockers probably wouldn't even detect them in the first place.

    4. Re:Symbiotic parasite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The answer is umatrix + ublock origin

    5. Re:Symbiotic parasite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I don't care who started it, the bandwidth I'm paying for is Mine, not theirs and I'll block the parasites as much as I can. If that means shitholes that only exist to garner ad money die, then I'm all for it since it gets rid of useless crap online.

      In order to block the adverts I don't care for, I use a fucking Hosts file and keep it updated. Sure it's not 100 percent effective but between it and noscript (I do not autoupdate) I'm able blocking damn near all of the crap and those sites that depend on flash, well I don't have it installed, thus they're fucking worthless to me so I don't stick around to be infected/advertised to or even bother to find out who in hell owns them. Sorry fooks but if you depend on something that is not ADA compliant then you're contributing to the fucking problem and you can try working with a god damn screen reader in a few years because you can't see the fucking 2 pt font selected by some yahoo that thinks it's cute.

  19. Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Adblock and Adblock Plus will now both ultimately take money in exchange for allowing ads. You can tell the agenda from the "default on" position.

    So, can we get a list of stuff that DOESN'T do this? Maybe with links to the developers saying why not?

    We can't edit posts on slashdot, normally for better, but this means I can't add to this list with responses. Still, respond please if you got'em!

    The ONLY ones I know for sure are:

    ** uBlock Origin **- For Firefox and Chrome, this blocks a lot of privacy related things. This one seems like you can customize it, and the addon page tells you about other ad lists you can also apply. Importantly, the developer (gorhill on github) has had to deal with "acceptable ad" beggars, and shuts them down. The odds of this addon staying clean seem very high based on this.

    Chrome store: https://chrome.google.com/webs...
    Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...

    I don't know if this works with popular privacy or usability forks of Firefox and Chrome, and maybe some Palemoons and Comodos and Waterfoxes and whatevers can chime in with details.

    The old Adblock Edge was a solid Firefox addon, but discontinued with a message to use uBlock Origin. The somewhat similar dramafilled uBlock (without the "origin") I think has no acceptable ads either, but I have a hard time googling that stuff.

    ** uBlock ** - This and uBlock Origin share a relatively recent codebase, but there are some developer disagreements. I couldn't find any evidence that uBlock uses acceptable ads, however, so definitely listing it:

    Chrome Store: https://chrome.google.com/webs...
    Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...

    *What else has no acceptable ad option*???

    I'd even be ok counting ones that have one that is disabled by default, something that uBlock Origin has fought off successfully.

    1. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it that hard to uncheck one box once after you install the product?

      It isn't like you aren't going to notice if they ignore that box.

    2. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's vastly difficult to uncheck a box. As represented by the fact that all the guys that accept payola insist on that "default on" position. This is because they know that most users won't change the default, so it is a VERY hard request indeed. If instead they had a box that defaulted to blocking all ads that you could SET to ads that they have been paid to consider allowable, then very few users would set that up.

      It's hard, it's dishonest, it's unreasonable, and we should support adblockers that block ads, because ads are awful!

      But thanks for downvoting me (and don't kid yourself, it wasn't modded down, it was downvoted) and then posting as AC to shill for these fucks.

    3. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Score +3, Troll? For asking for a list of adblock options that don't accept payments for advertising? Pretty incredible lol. I mean, it's an article about that very thing!

      It's amazing that people don't want anyone talking about how to support and use products that don't allow an "acceptable ad list", as determined by a company that takes payments from advertisers- or more relevantly, an adblocker that defaults to not blocking ads.

      So far we have uBlock Origin, uBlock, and maybe the start64 apk list? Hard to have a conversation about that last one though, with apk spamposting everywhere.

    4. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      I'll add to your list, AdBlock Plus shows no "acceptable ads" once you uncheck the "show acceptable ads" box. I see no problem with this, nor with it being the default position.

      What business is it of yours if other people don't mind viewing certain types of ads?

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    5. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you always stay AC, you don't get tracked. Well to be fair you do, but it's a different track each time so most of them lead nowhere. When you complain about tracking, why are you bashing the ones that take it seriously?

      AdBlock and Ghostry are two of the top, user friendly plug-ins for blocking trackers. They've earned their high reputations and their development and maintenance takes time. Why should they have to do everything for you for free? Did you donate to them? No? Then you shut the fuck up. Checking one properly labeled checkbox that isn't completely hidden away isn't a big deal for a free, quality piece of software that works well.

    6. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did they ship it crippled by default? Advertisers know most users won't change the crippled default is why. Adblock hurt themselves in that. If you look at it in reverse you understand why it was done that way. Psychological deceit. It's what advertisers do.

    7. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Well, no, that doesn't count. That's the whole point of a list- find ad blockers that block ads without needing some technical workaround. We're trying to list adblockers that will never listen to a list of "ok ads". It's ok that you think that a "good advertisement" is one that just hacks YOU (while not also hacking your machine). But that's not what I want. I want advertisements to never be displayed in any capacity. Tools like these actually accomplish this goals- the ones that take payola to some degree aren't what I posted for.

    8. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adblock Latitdue for the PaleMoon browser is another without 'acceptable ads'.

    9. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily true.

      How adblock plus works is they need to allow acceptable use to be able to display and you can still disable that. This means no full screen ads, sounds, malware, zombie cookies you can't delete in flash, redirects, etc.

      Websites still get paid only if they allow ethical ads. I am a fan of this as I do want to pay Slashdot and other sites. It is only fair that I take up their space, time, and bandwidth right?

    10. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      >Websites still get paid only if

      Websites still get paid only if they get paid somehow. We don't need to solve their economic problems, or support the advertising industry. If everyone blocks ads, then I guess we won't have to see ads. Anything beyond that is wild speculation, and more importantly, not our problem.

      > It is only fair that I take up their space, time, and bandwidth, right?

      If you cared you'd have a gold star by your name and be a subscriber. You either believe ads work on you, in which case, viewing them seems a really indirect way of getting the money to the sites you care about, or you believe ads don't work on you, in which case, you believe you are ripping off the company paying for the advertisements.

      Anyway, trying to find adblockers that block ads. Changing topic to something something support the existing economic whatever is offtopic and silly anyway.

    11. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ayyyyy lmao. Block ads, see no ads. Who gives a shit about the adblks that don't block ads? Their dev and maint is shit if it allows ads right?

    12. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I use adblock.

      My point was I like Slashdot for example to be paid only by ethical ads. To me I am willing to compromise and if a site is an asshole and uses 30 ad networks per page then 100% get blocked and they get no money.

      My point of view is it gives sites and ad networks an economic incentive to be ethical by adblock plus allowing only ethical ads with strict criteria with the option to block all.

    13. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      I want advertisements to never be displayed in any capacity.

      That's exactly what AdBlock Plus accomplishes, and better than the options you listed. Why better? It allows you to block all ads, but doesn't unnecessarily escalate the arms race.

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    14. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      If it allows ads, it's an ad allower. We want an ad blocker. We probably need a term for that that actually means that thing, given that Ad Block Plus and now Ad Block are both in cahoots with advertisers.

      We are trying to talk about products that block advertising, with no trickery, deception, or payola. It's not controversial- just which ones do that? Sadly, the only thing that has been added to my original list of ad blockers that work out of the box (uBlock Origin and uBlock) was the APK Hosts Engine, from slashdot's favorite insane robot (and I'm pretty sure that's only a solution for Windows). Maybe the list of ad blockers not bought and paid for really is that small. That's a sad thing for sure, if true.

    15. Re:Can we get a resource here in thread? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Nice! Ok. This is an Adblock Plus fork, with the allowed ads feature removed (and of course, it works for Palemoon). Thanks, didn't know.

  20. the lard of hosts for fat ads by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best option, IMHO, is the hosts file, frankly. Be nice if we could work out some solid collaborative way to make my block discoveries help you with yours, etc., but it's just fraught with too many problems and potential black hat undertakings.

    Still, it's pretty easy to just have a little app you can paste domains into that just appends your hosts file with Yet Another Reference to the Black Hole Of Data.

    Well, under OS X and Linux it is. Not sure about Windows. But years ago, when I was using Windows, it did have a hosts file you could get at. Still true?

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    1. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by west · · Score: 1

      Once ad blocking becomes truly ubiquitous (I give it a year) and most of the independent web sites die, how are we block ads once the Internet = Facebook?

      Facebook hosts all the content and all the ads (and it gets 30% of any hosted site's revenue for its trouble).

      The rise of Ad-Blocking was inevitable, but boy, I'm not looking forward to having a Facebook account just to surf the remaining sites that keep trying to make a go of it.

    2. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Prior to the rise of advertising, almost all sites were 'independent'. They'll be around for a long time after the end of Internet advertising, because they're run for love, not money.

      It's the sites which exist solely to capture search results to bring in ad revenue that will die. And the rest of the world will celebrate.

    3. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Facebook? You use Facebook and you're concerned about ads?

      127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com facebook.com

      ...problem solved.

      Also, from my POV, the only "independent sites" out there don't depend on external ads. The others are, by definition, dependent. Like this one.

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    4. Re: the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My hosts file contains thousands of lines like that one (and including that one)

    5. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The problem with using your hosts file is it sometimes breaks pages you actually want to get to. I run into occasional issues with some stuff on Amazon.com, for instance.

      It also seems to dramatically slow down a small handful of sites - I'm not sure why.

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    6. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      AlmostAllAdsBlocked's slower http://superuser.com/questions...

    7. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not sure about Windows. But years ago, when I was using Windows, it did have a hosts file you could get at. Still true?

      I've heard that newer* versions of Windows have a penchant for overwriting or even completely ignoring the hosts file under the guise of "protecting the user". I've seen claims that it's because malware will use the hosts file to hijack domains, but that argument has even more holes now than it did when it first started, because with Windows 10, the OS started deliberately ignoring the hosts file when trying to send telemetry data and other private info back to MS servers, eliminating the user's easiest way to stop the behavior.

      TL;DR: Windows still has a hosts file, but it seems destined to become a vestigial part of the OS with no real function. You're better off using a separate machine of some type (PC, router, whatever) and set up both incoming and outgoing rules there.

      * anything Vista or 7 onwards, I think? Searching online finds instances of this as far back as 2011-2012, maybe earlier.

    8. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to imagine this future being reality and drink a beer in celebration right now!

    9. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing we might lose that anyone gives a fuck about is... Porn...

      But there's torrents for that too.

    10. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by ryocoon · · Score: 1

      Old stuff will still exist. Amateurs will still have a want of sharing themselves. Professionally produced stuff may get harder to find, but there is still a niche for that in a paid market. Those things will leak out, but hopefully they will make enough that it will be offset as a cost of doing business. The free streaming sites will likely dry up and die though with the death of ubiquitous advertising. Something has to pay for both services and physical assets to run those sites.

    11. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One, I don't use Facebook, and I don't want to start. However, I do enjoy a wide number of sites, and I expect once ad-blockers become ubiquitous at least a few of them to basically be hosted under Facebook, as Facebook ads are barely distinguishable from content, and if that's the only way to survive, some will take that.

      And lastly, let's get real. If sites without ads were adequate, we wouldn't be talking about ad-blockers.

    12. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, hobby sites never stopped existing. If you feel otherwise, it's because you are making the decision that they're inadequate compared to current ad supported offerings. Why you think they'll change once those ad-supported offerings are gone is beyond me. They'll keep chugging along, just as they always did.

      But quite frankly, there's a moderate amount of hypocrisy going on. If the hobby sites were adequate, then nobody would be using or talking about ad-blockers. The very fact that we are makes it clear that every participant finds hobby sites insufficient for their needs. If they find them insufficient now, it's only going to get worse when more people flock to them, and people are forced to shut them down before being buried in server fees.

      The rise of the ad-supported web didn't kill the hobbyist web - it added to it. And then people chose with their eyeballs. In fact, even as were enraged about ads, we're still not abandoning the ad supported sites for hobbyist sites.

      What most of us whine about is that there isn't professional level quality provided by hobbyists. And quite frankly, that seems just a wee bit entitled.

    13. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by cm5oom · · Score: 1

      A host file only works when the content and ads come from different servers. That's such an obvious weakness it amazes me that most people don't see it. Don't listen to apk's spam, a host fire is not a silver bullet that will solve all the world's problems. It has its up sides and down sides, and there are several problems/use cases it can not solve that can be solved by a browser plugin or a firewall. Depending solely on a host fire to block ads is like holding a shield in front of you and expecting to never be attacked from behind.

      P.S. We solved the problem of sharing the host file with everyone back in the 80s with a thing called DNS.

    14. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by schnell · · Score: 1

      Prior to the rise of advertising, almost all sites were 'independent'. They'll be around for a long time after the end of Internet advertising, because they're run for love, not money.

      And none of those sites carried breaking news or the AP wire, at least not legally. Or had sports scores (ditto). Or showed streaming video other than self-produced content in 240 x 160 "QuickTime postage stamp theater" format. Or paid anyone to write content for them. Or provided social media capabilities (vital to the ubiquity of the Internet, whether you personally like/use them or not). Or did much of fucking anything other than be personal projects or part-time blogs that ran until the proprietor got a job/spouse/kid and realized it was an unsustainable time (and bandwidth cost) investment. All that would be left is e-commerce sites; personal sites where the creator can handle technical duties and pay the cost of hosting (remember, no ad-supported WordPress!); 100% sponsored sites (which would thereby lose all credibility of independent thought); big corporations that could afford making "loss leader" websites or sustain the costs of being subscription-only (also as bad); a tiny number of donation-only sites like Wikipedia with enough notoriety to sustain themselves; and some government pages funded by your tax dollars.

      I loved the era when you had to install WinSock or MacTCP to use your college's Internet connection. Browse the Wayback Machine from 1996 and you'll get warm fuzzy feelings, but remember that this was when the Internet was a nerd phenomenon like Usenet, not a global force for easy information dissemination and democratization of media. To return to it would be the death knell of the Internet in all functional ways.

      Advertising may be annoying. But it is what fueled the growth of the Internet into what it is today, and I personally don't see celebrating the death of sites like Ars Technica, Longform, Foxtrot Alpha, Jalopnik, The Onion, Kotaku, TheForce.Net, Grantland, Slate, ESPN.com/SI.com, or pretty much any other site on the web that I currently enjoy for free. Insert whatever other site here that you enjoy reading and you do not currently directly pay for.Your mileage may vary, but I don't think "the rest of the world will celebrate" as you seem to believe.

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    15. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This argument that the Internet used to be free and will continue being free is silly. I used the Internet when most people on /. were toddlers. You know what? It was really cool because it was a global network. Other than that it pretty much sucked.

      Making the web we know and love today requires millions of paid people. I don't want to go back to the way it was, thank you.

    16. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      It also seems to dramatically slow down a small handful of sites - I'm not sure why.

      When you redirect an ad server to 127.0.0.1 the connection has to timeout trying to connect to a non-existent server. Depending on what's trying to be loaded, it may block subsequent requests until the timeout happens, or result in an error that breaks the page if it's trying to load a javascript resource. If you redirect it to a IP address that responds with a 404 or a dummy transparent image or javascript file, then any blocking is minimize and the page can load faster.

    17. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by caseih · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't have to time out. If no web server is running on 127.0.0.1, the connection attempt fails immediately. This is faster than a 404 even. If you had iptables dropping packets then that would result in a timeout. That's why I have iptables use the REJECT target for outbound things I'm trying to block. That way the connection fails immediately.

    18. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by ultranova · · Score: 1

      127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com facebook.com

      ...problem solved.

      Until Facebook drops the pretense and begins spreading as a viral botnet. What can your precious hosts file do, when everywhere you point your browser, all you see is the Face of SkyNetBook?

      And there's no login required; it already knows who you are. It has already read, analyzed, and posted on your timeline all your formerly private files. Full details of everything you do will be instantly available for the world to read with no interaction needed from you, since SkyNetBook is everywhere, on every computer, every CCTV, every smartphone. And naturally SkyNetBook has your billing information, so anything that could be considered an affirmative for any of the... commercial suggestions SkyNetBook presents you results in automatic order. Just think of the benefits for economy! And since everything you do is documented, you don't need to fear death, for your profile will be kept active and run by the same commercial AI that makes the suggestions, so you - or your profile - can keep sending invites to your friends.

      It's just you and other dead people, on Facebook, haunting the living with FarmVille invites, forever.

      Also, from my POV, the only "independent sites" out there don't depend on external ads. The others are, by definition, dependent. Like this one.

      Every site depends on some kind of income stream to cover its expenses, be it ads, subscriptions or the publisher's pockets. So either conclude that "independent site" is an oxymoron, or lower or refine your standards a bit.

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    19. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      You're right, it doesn't HAVE to. But what I wrote is likely the reason why there is a delay. On my Windows 7 laptop using Chrome, requesting a non-existent file on a port not open on localhost takes 1 second ± a few milliseconds before timing out.

      I run a development server on localhost so I can't just reject any connection to port 80, and whatever delay I do encounter due to a 404 is minimal enough that I don't bother "fixing" the problem any better than what I've already have.

    20. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      And none of those sites carried breaking news or the AP wire... Or had sports scores (ditto)...showed streaming video

      First off, why doesn't the AP have its own site? Sport scores could easily be done via the main sports sites (NFL, MLB, FIFA, etc). There's plenty of sites doing streaming video: Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu do it varying ways, with embedded ads, but the web sites themselves don't need ads nor have them, other than self promoting, which is why you went there in the first place.

      Then we get to where the content producers failed, wholesale, and we got the current morass of crap. Newspapers ignored the web, where in the early days they could have simply setup a paid tier and attached it to their subscription at a non-premium and reaped the rewards. Now they need advertising because they completely toasted the paid model. The RIAA did the same thing. They could have easily setup an iTunes like storefront for all their members' content non DRM'd since it already was on CDs, and killed Napster in its tracks. They failed and lost the ball. Same for the MPAA or book and magazine publishers. In each case, each failing was due to dismissing the new market and clinging to the old business model, missing the boat, and having their market obliterated by a much easier model for consumers. That model is now a free ad-supported model that pretty much removed all possibility of paid tiers thanks to these folks own short-sightedness.

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    21. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0.0.0.0 in hosts does it fast. Apk uses it in his hosts program http://start64.com/index.php?o... since it has no possibility of loopback at all. 127.0.0.1 does.

    22. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by zgarnog · · Score: 1

      You could try something like http://www.peerblock.com/ which allows you to block ad-related http.

    23. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Slashdot+Junky · · Score: 1

      Yes, Windows does have a hosts file, and this can be modified by a user with local admin rights. I expect content providers to eventually serve ads from their domain. They will move the targeting to the web server. We will still be tracked, and it will just be the server that asks the ad network for a targeted ad that is then served to you from the same domain. Right now, we can use the hosts file to manage much of the ad content, because they are served from a different domain from the content we want to see. We won't be able to do this once the HREF domain is the same for both. Ad blocking may then move to a filtering mechanism provided by a proxy server that analyzes and changes everything as the browser asks for page content. We may even subscribe to a proxy service in place of deploying our own.

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    24. Re:the lard of hosts for fat ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'll won't happen or it would've. Ads off same domain as site != pay. Admen don't trust webmaster click counts. I don't blame them.

  21. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

    Why is APK so fucking obsessed with host files? Is this a rolling gag or something that I'm not aware of? Or does he just have a severe case of OCD and/or Asperger's?

  22. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is APK so fucking obsessed with host files? Is this a rolling gag or something that I'm not aware of? Or does he just have a severe case of OCD and/or Asperger's?

    I'm voting OCD/Asperger's. If he'd post once per thread, the idea might even be on topic and insightful. The idea, while not the intended use of /etc/hosts, isn't intrinsically bad: it's his relentless spamming of it, dozens of times times per thread, that's the problem.

  23. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Can APK Hosts File block APK Hosts File spam comments?

  24. Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Perhaps there is a way to put the load, and the expectations, on the user.

    You go to a website. If you desire a personalized experience, "click here" and then bookmark.

    Resulting page is site.tld/longRandomGeneratedUniqueThing/restofurl.whatever

    All links on the resulting page are set that way now. The site is responsible for keeping that "thing" associated with your preferences and etc., as well as generating the right links on all the pages you visit there. That's doable.

    As long as you come and go from such a formatted URL, the site knows it's the same person.

    If you don't do this, you get a non-personalized experience.

    No cookies required. But it does require the user to be a little bit proactive if they want the experience to span multiple visits, because they'll have to bookmark. Otherwise, this visit will know it's them all the way across the visit, but when they leave... the info is either gone or buried in their history.

    It's a bit clumsy, and it certainly isn't secure in the sense of others not being able to appear as that person and so forth, but "secure" surely isn't a word I'd use for cookie technology, either. It does allow for basic identity, and it does put control of it in the hands of the user. So for cases where the limitations are acceptable, seems like a reasonable approach.

    If not this, then something else. But cookies and forwarding the browser all over creation should die in a fire. Somehow.

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    1. Re:Perhaps... by worf_mo · · Score: 1

      You go to a website. If you desire a personalized experience, "click here" and then bookmark.

      Resulting page is site.tld/longRandomGeneratedUniqueThing/restofurl.whatever

      All links on the resulting page are set that way now. The site is responsible for keeping that "thing" associated with your preferences and etc., as well as generating the right links on all the pages you visit there. That's doable.

      As long as you come and go from such a formatted URL, the site knows it's the same person.

      Not necessarily. If I share the link site.tld/longRandomGeneratedUniqueThing/restofurl.whatever and people open it, the website won't know it isn't me who is accessing it, and it will show them the page with all of my settings applied. You and the others around here might know we'd have to use the generic link site.tld/generic/restofurl.whatever, but most users will simply share their personalised link on their social media sites and in their mails.

    2. Re:Perhaps... by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      Why would you share that link ? The point is YOU wanted a personalized experience. If am going to have to see ads, and on a lot of sites I accept that fact, I'd just as soon see ads in which I might be the slightest bit interested. I am for sure not interested in seeing ads for feminine products or other such items like I do know following my GF's use of my computer. I can honestly say I have never clicked through an ad in my lifetime, but I HAVE seen things which have compelled me to go to a site and check something out.

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    3. Re:Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      The point is, it'd be a new way of operating. The site would provide copyable links to share.

      No question it's more work.

      But OTOH, it gets you a personalized experience.

      It's not like most websites are using cookies and scripting responsibly now anyway. Certainly the ad companies aren't. Be a treat to turn all that crap off. But if, and it's a big if, I admit, you wanted the site to know your shopping habits, that's a way for them to do it without your browser having to shovel in a bunch of bandwidth eating, data-stealing crap from WeFuckCustomers, Inc.

      As I said, it's just an idea. Seems like we're in need of some ideas, though.

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    4. Re:Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      One more thing. Let me put this into a concrete context, perhaps that'll transfer the idea a little better.

      I go to the Kindle store. I only like science fiction, books on Python. I can tell them so, or I can let them figure it out. But either way, that's what they'll show me for specials and so forth. If I enter my email, they can email me (see, no way for them to know my email otherwise unless I actually buy.) So, this, for me, would be good. I see books I want, and I never see another stupid vampire book again. They, in turn, have a customer who is more likely to buy, because (shock) they're actually showing me things I want.

      But when I leave the site, all knowledge of me, goes with me. Now, when I'm visiting, say, KangaroosInFancyDresses.com, that crap does not -- can not -- follow me around.

      Now, say someone visits the Kindle store using my URL. I thoughtlessly pasted it into an email to them or something, and off they go. One thing will happen, and another might. First, they get Python and science fiction suggestions for the personalized part of their advertising experience. If they buy from those suggestions, no harm done. But second, they may buy something else, such as a stupid vampire book. Later, I come back, a vampire book is presented to me, I hop to my clickable prefs, am hopefully offered the opportunity to unclick "vampire books" or whatever, and off I go.

      Is this so bad? Right now, my SO and I use the same Amazon account. I like, as stated, Python and SF. She likes mysteries and cookbooks. So I see those. All the time. It's not the end of the world. What's missing here is the ability to tell Amazon that I am not her, and for our shopping experiences to be differentiated.

      I suspect -- I'm just guessing -- that if the limits of how the site knew what you wanted were set the way I suggest, they'd be a lot more careful to show you what you wanted, because it's one of the only avenues left to better the targeting of their advertising.

      Anyway, again, just mulling it over. Maybe it truly sucks as an idea. Your thoughts on how to get out our shared cookie/scripting nightmare are?

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    5. Re:Perhaps... by worf_mo · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying your idea sucks, I just find it to be similar to cookies, with the cookie ID in the URL.

      If UniqueThing is the only way for the website to identify me, many websites will add any additional information they gather about me to this ID (e.g. my email address when I subscribe to notifications). Currently, when I share a link, I just copy and paste the URL from the browser's address line. If I happen to share a personalised link -- willingly or by mistake -- my preferences and collected information will be available to all visitors of said link. If some of these visitors like the site, they will change the preferences and add red sandals, vampire books, and "herbal remedies" to the already existing Python books and science fiction. Now I can go in there and reset the preferences to my desires, but some of the people I shared my link with will come back and add whatever it is that they prefer. I'll have to create a new UniqueThing. (Which is similar to purging my browser's cookies.)

      I like your Amazon example, this is something that happens to my wife and me, too. It would be great if Amazon could distinguish between the two of us; after all, although we share an account we're using different browser sessions and different laptops. Maybe we could think of a way to voluntarily inform websites about some of our interests. In the browser's settings, let me define keywords or select from a list of categories, and when the website I'm currently on sends a specific request (with the possibility for me to whitelist/blacklist any site), let them know about my preferences.

      I use ad blocking, ScriptSafe and Ghostery, different browser profiles for various environments and needs (home, work, google, whatever). I don't click on ads. But I wouldn't mind if my browser informed any website that asked that I'm interested in Python, electronic components, and Stuart MacBride books. This would allow them to collect information about their audience's interests and adapt accordingly. It would allow Amazon to differentiate the shopping experience for my wife and me. Of course this would make some people more identifiable because of their unique interests, but browser-fingerprinting is already quite good at that.

      I'm not claiming that my idea is better, just brainstorming here.

    6. Re:Perhaps... by tech49er · · Score: 1

      I first encountered the approach you describe (URL rewriting for session management) when working with BEA WebLogic about 10 years ago, but I'd say it predates that. It would kick in by default when cookies weren't enabled. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E13...

      I think it worked okay, besides the ugly URLs and stuff. The issue described elsewhere around copying/pasting/sharing links or some bad person hijacking your session could be resolved by making the magic numbers "one-time only" but then you would lose your bookmarkability. Basically you will still need to log in. You'll also have to resign yourself to the fact that the user needs to log in again every time they use the back button, or otherwise enter your site some other way than through using the links that you provide. You'll probably have to rewrite all your static content too.

      There's still a possibility of a hacker snooping an unencrypted HTTP session however and hijacking your session by sending the next URL before you do. To be honest you good attack a user on cookies in the same way ... another scenario worth considering could be an attacker with a brief amount of access to your computer copying and pasting one of your links into IM window.

      In the scenario you describe, a good implementation would resolve all invalid rewrite links to their non-personalised variant.

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    7. Re:Perhaps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not saying your idea sucks, I just find it to be similar to cookies, with the cookie ID in the URL.

      If UniqueThing is the only way for the website to identify me, many websites will add any additional information they gather about me to this ID (e.g. my email address when I subscribe to notifications).

      I'm not claiming that my idea is better, just brainstorming here.

      This is easily accomplished. Have the web browser provide a "unique" id for the user - but let the USER pick/change it. So if I want hot blonde action, I can use hotblondesohyeahlovemedemamazingoilpaintingsof goldenretreiversplayingpoker81674515689123659 as my id. If I'm in the mood for redheads I can do the same by switching to my other id. Or you know, scifibooks and fishing lures or whatever.

    8. Re:Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      My suggestion of a "URL cookie", if you want to call it that, allows *you* to allow a site to give you a specific experience, *if* you so desire. That's all it does, because it is unique to the site. It can't do anything more. There is no question that on some sites, the site knowing your preferences is a good thing. For instance, slashdot knows I don't want to see the perl.com slashbox, and that's a good thing, because I despise Perl, see. That could easily be done just this way. They don't need to know who I am, they just need to be able to associate my interests with the relevant experience on the site. Doing it this way gives the site nothing to sell or share about me, because no other site can use that "URL cookie" to see that it is, in fact, me.

      The "traditional cookie", in sharp contrast, allows *everyone else* to choose your experience, while in addition, sharing your preferences far and wide, which in turn provides information that can be used to identify you, which in turn creates a tracking mechanism as well as a pretty transparent set of footprints of when and where you have been all over the web. Which again, as we have seen and know very well, is a wide open door for bad behavior, the poster child of which is the advertising industry.

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    9. Re:Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      But I wouldn't mind if my browser informed any website that asked that I'm interested in Python, electronic components, and Stuart MacBride books. This would allow them to collect information about their audience's interests and adapt accordingly. It would allow Amazon to differentiate the shopping experience for my wife and me.

      Yes, I'd like to see this as well. There are quite a few interests I would very happy to see a website know about immediately upon my arrival. And again, this does not require the website forwarding my information and my browser all over creation, so that's one big problem not imposed by this.

      Of course this would make some people more identifiable because of their unique interests, but browser-fingerprinting is already quite good at that.

      Yes. So, your idea + my idea. That way, no cookies -- just turn them off --, and no forwarding, turn that off too. Just a user-controlled DB in the browser that lays out what WE are willing to share, and nothing else. Now the browser fingerprinting won't work, because it absolutely requires cookies. A good browser would go where you told it to go, and nowhere else. And I think that would be a wonderful change in how the web works.

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    10. Re:Perhaps... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      For anything critical, you'd only give out a URL one time, and of course, you'd encrypt the page containing it so no one could see that URL going out but the person who was supposed to have it. Shopping carts, products for sale, everything.

      For that matter, presuming only that encryption actually works, I don't know why the whole web isn't encrypted, other than the money-making scam of having to buy certificates that won't make browsers puke out fear-mongering dialogs from a "certificate authority."

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    11. Re: Perhaps... by tech49er · · Score: 1

      Sorry my point was that the scheme you describe has been around ages (nothing new to see here) but that it's too cumbersome to work in practice. Otherwise we'd see it used more often right?

      Glad you agree the entire web should be encrypted. It used to be an issue with CPU usage & then power constraints when mobile came on the scene but we should expect to see it more and more now esp post snowden

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  25. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Is there some kind of hosts tweak I can use to block APK's spam?

  26. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you lost the argument.

  27. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    9.) Protect vs. phish

    They don't really play my kind of music, but they seem like reasonable people, and I'm pretty sure that they have nothing in particular against me. Why would I need protection from Phish?

  28. Facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chrome AdBlock sold to AdBlcok Plus. This was news last Thrusday! Way to stay current Slashdot.

    An excellent replacement for AdBlock and AdBlock Plus is uBlock Origin. They haven't sold out to advertisers, yet.

  29. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    I don't know. I don't prefer host blocks because they break a lot of the web, and if they become ubiquitous they will be very easy for advertisers to work around in ways that make content retrieval very difficult. A programmatic solution has a lot of problems, but ultimately represents a more customizable way of getting the web the way the user wants to view it.

    But APK isn't wrong. He's on a crusade, which makes him a giant sink of wasted text and nonsense, but he's not wrong. Deus Vult!

  30. wtf apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    80% of the comments here are apk spam.. wtf

    1. Re:wtf apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure he has some alert that wakes him up, night or day, and he charges to the slashdots whenever this topic is discussed.

    2. Re:wtf apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's that very thinly veiled third-person word salad again.

    3. Re:wtf apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's downmod points?

    4. Re:wtf apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not use yer registered 'luser' account? Yer abused downmods go away? Yes. Ya can't beat apk n' ya know it. We do.

    5. Re:wtf apk by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      He's obviously also got enough sock-puppets to keep everyone who criticises him modded down..

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    6. Re:wtf apk by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      If we could hunt him down skin him and gut him we could stop that... Damn police always protecting the parasites.

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  31. What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even if they turn acceptable ads on, I wouldn't see the difference, because I only use adblock for the element blocker. The ads themselves are blocked directly in my router using a custom firewall script and a bunch of HOSTS lists.

  32. Re: You're more than welcome by easyTree · · Score: 1

    So... yes or no? :D Your posts are a little tl;dr with too many transitions between bold/non-bold.

  33. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck off apk

  34. Incentive, not box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's never hard to uncheck the box. But it's hard to subscribe to a service with perverted incentive.

    1. Re:Incentive, not box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why'd almostalladsblocked ship it crippled by default? Advertisers know most users won't change a crippled default's why. Adblock hurt themselves there. If you look at it in reverse you understand why it was done that way. Psychological deceit. It's what advertisers do.

  35. FUCK OFF APK by buckfeta2014 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    slashdigg is tired of your shit. seriously just fuck off.

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  36. Hahahahaha "poo lil' troll"! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep "FoAmiNg-@-TeH-MouTh" as apk makes you run dry of your modpoints troll! You can't prove apk wrong. Apk wins against you whimps always and on every conceivable level there is. Not much of a contest considering apk's a genius and you're a pack of retarded microcephalic imbeciles.

    1. Re:Hahahahaha "poo lil' troll"! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kill yourself?

    2. Re:Hahahahaha "poo lil' troll"! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who thinks its necessary to spam their product, obviously does not believe in the viability of that product.

      If you actually thought your product was worth anything you would rely on the people who use your product, but obviously the people who you do manage to trick into using it are just finding it just as shit as your retarded posts.

  37. Re: You're more than welcome by easyTree · · Score: 1

    For your sake, I hope this is all part of some elaborate joke :D

    I'm going with "no there's no way to block slashdot spam via hosts files."

  38. Re: You're more than welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" and you're forrest running from apk http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

  39. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by meerling · · Score: 1

    Added to that, his posts look like standard spam. Where did he learn to write posts just like spammers?

  40. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Pikoro · · Score: 2

    Yah, your host file software (30k lines of code to manage a text file? WTF?) obviously doesn't work or it would be blocking you. You post more spam and ads for your software on here than other 3rd party ads. If your goal is to help cut down on spam and such, you're doing a really shitty job of it.

    You've posted your stupid shit in here 25 times and counting (as of this comment's writing). Just get off the internet already apk.

    Copy/Pasting your drivel over and over again doesn't make it any more true.

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  41. LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject, says it all for me. Especially you fools doing a "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my fair challenge to "your kind" http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... in technically WEAK trolls - I say that since NONE OF YOU ever, EVER, validly technically proves what I state on hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than ANY single browser addon there is, + hosts do so (and FAR MORE than INFERIOR browser addons) FAR MORE EFFICIENTLY!

    * What I absolutely LOVE is CRUSHING FOOLS LIKE YOU (like I have before in YOU SPECIFICALLY, "forrest" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    APK

    P.S.=> You're additionally welcome to write a BETTER program (but then again, YOU ARE A "ne'er-do-well" unskilled in the computer sciences mere TROLLING WORM, lol... I expect TOO MUCH of you sometimes) that's hosted & RECOMMENDED by the very best antimalware under the sun @ Malwarebytes' hpHosts -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ... apk

    1. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who thinks it's necessary to spam their product, obviously does not believe in the viability of that product.

      If you actually thought your product was worth anything you would rely on the people who use your product to spread your product, but obviously the people who you manage to trick into using it are just finding it just as shit as your retarded posts

    2. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one gives a fuck about your challenge.
      Sure your app might be the best damn ad blocker ever, with included magical capabilities
      but if this is the marketing strategy you use, then why even bother.

      Do you even see how hypocritical you are being?
      You are promoting an app to block anonying ads by using annoying adds, that's fucked up.

    3. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You're additionally welcome to write a BETTER program...

      It's already been done. https://www.isc.org/downloads/bind/ or, if one would rather use something written by DJB: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html Either of those software packages can scale its protection from a single machine, to an entire LAN, to an entire ISP's userbase, in real-time and be centrally managed. Can *your* software do the same?

      It's remarkable that you're still spewing essentially the *same* vitriol, nearly ten years later. Oh well. Hope you get some joy out of your leisure-time activity.

    4. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Pikoro · · Score: 2

      Wait what? You crushed me? http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
      Looks like you're the one that got "crushed". You never answered any of my reasons why your system is better than DNS except that having a dedicated DNS server will use more electricity. All your rants and more were completely "proved wrong" in that post.

      Unfortunately, some people just can't learn from their mistakes. You think your solution is so damn good that you sound like a kid screaming "gimmie my ball back!" at the top of his lungs in the kindergarten playground.

      Host files have their place. Sticking millions of entries in it is not use, it's abuse. DNS won. Hosts lost. Get over it.

      Too bad you're just going to copy/paste your reply after this again and call everyone trolls.

      I feel sorry for you. You've taken something that was good and destroyed it. I'm sure that if you redirected half as much energy into something worthwhile that you do into posting spam all over slashdot that you could accomplish something noteworthy other than being the butt of jokes.

      You're terribly easy to provoke, and provably wrong to boot.

      Good day.

      --
      "Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
    5. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If browser addon users post so can apk. You can't prove him wrong is why you state that otherwise you wouldn't have. He ought thank you for making him look good. He does.

    6. Re:LOL: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks viable to me! You help apk in that. You can't validly technically prove apk wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and all you do is try to hide his posts by downmods you abuse to do that. We see that you know and we don't think highly of you for it.

  42. Re:My program whitelists vs. those by SirSlud · · Score: 1

    You seem to have let trying to block advertising define your life a hell of a lot more than dealing with a few ads might have. Frankly, a loony for a loony cause. But hey, I guess if it helps you feel like you're contributing to something important ..

    --
    "Old man yells at systemd"
  43. Absolutely - & for the BEST hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & not 'souled-out' to advertisers, + adds speed, security, & reliability, doing FAR more w/ FAR less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    It obtains its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!

    It does all that using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' in addons that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads!

    * :)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ---

    "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  44. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  45. Actually I put more effort into stopping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Known malicious sites &/or botnets than I do ads but ads = a HUGE source of infection ala http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... + http://apple.slashdot.org/comm...

    So I'm also "multitasking" not only stopping ads from stealing your speed + bandwidth or hitting runnings into capping walls by stopping ads alone, but also their malicious payloads since open bid advertising networks are the cause of malware makers abusing advertising.

    Why do you think CISCO even said "clicking ads more dangerous than going to a gay pornsite" for?

    APK

    P.S.=> I'm contributing to giving folks online more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - how about you, off topic troll?

    Nope - ZERO outta you, a zero yourself...

    So call me ALL THE NAMES YOU LIKE which aren't true, but myself NOW CALLING YOU A "ne'er-do-well" IS TRUE since you can't show shit on that note chump, lol... apk

  46. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk literally lost nothing (adding even more you can't touch). He has 16 points you can't prove wrong troll.

  47. Blocking ad equivalent to Halting Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blocking ads is mathematically impossible, as it is equivalent to the Halting Problem.

    What we can hope for is properly implemented multi-layer defense (ad blocking + host-based blocks + script blocker + cookie blocker + ...). We also need to actively poison the Big Data well of collectible information by feeding it disinformation.

    I understand there's no real privacy on the Internet, but there can be Mutually Assured Destruction. You spy on me and I attack you.

  48. Fact: AdBlock = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  49. Easy to remove that, here's how... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TO REMOVE THE BOGUS OPTIONAL TELEMETRY HOTFIXES MANUALLY:

    Open command prompt
    Type powershell
    issue these commands

    ---

    TO SEE WHAT ONES ARE INSTALLED:

    get-hotfix -id KB3035583, KB2952664,KB2976978,KB3021917,KB3044374,KB2990214

    ---

    TO UNINSTALL THEM (these for sure, per url next below):

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214

    per http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/...

    ---

    DESCRIPTIONS OF EACH (these uninstalled properly):

    KB3068708 (Telemetry)
    KB3075249 (Telemetry)
    KB3080149 (Telemetry)

    KB3022345 (Telemetry)
    KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
    KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparatioon + Telemetry)
    KB3035583 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation)

    ---

    I GOT "NOT INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER" ON THESE INITIALLY SINCE I HAD IE11 installed (PROBABLY ONES FOR IE9/10/11 &/or Windows 10 (I use Win7 here)):

    KB3075249
    KB3080149
    KB2505438
    * KB2670838 (See IE 9/10/11 notes below)
    KB3044374
    KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
    KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)
    KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

    ---

    I GOT "NOT INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER" ON THESE (*PRIOR* TO PULLING KB2670838):

    * KB2670838 (This update often breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy. A Windows 7 specific update only
                            (do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install to avoid this).

    THESE RE-APPEAR AFTER UNINSTALLING IE11 RIGHT ON RESTARTING & CHECKING WINDOWS UPDATE:

    * KB2952664 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
    * KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
    * KB3068708 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
    * KB3092627 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)

    ---

    run cmd as administrator

    sc stop Diagtrack
    sc delete Diagtrack

    ---

    *Task Scheduler Library:

    Everything under "Application Experience"
    Everything under "Autochk"
    Everything under "Customer Experience Improvement Program"
    Under "Disk Diagnostic" only the "Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector"
    Under "Maintenance" "WinSAT"
    "Media Center" and click the "status" column, then select all non-disabled entries and disable them.

    *services.msc:

    "Remote Registry" to "Disabled" instead of "Manual".

    ---

    IMPORTANT ONE IS GROUP POLICY (gpedit.msc):

    Go to Control Panel, Administrative Templates, System
    Internet Communication Management, Internet Communication Settings

    ENABLE (to turn it on, it is a disabler)

    "Turn off Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program"

    (IF YOU HAVE Windows "home" (less than Pro models), export the section of the registry involved from a Pro system & merge the .reg file you exported - should work well enough to do the job here for those of you using that lesser model of Windows)

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes, it's THAT easy to get rid of for what Microsoft's doing on Win7/8/10 spying on you - in less than 5 minutes of your time tops... apk

  50. Ads served on same site != practical for "$" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Even if by some miracle sites served their own ads (better than infection by them ala http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... + http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... ) from the same address as the server, which they don't since advertisers don't trust webmaster ALLEGED clickcounts on ads?

    Guess what? TWO GOOD THINGS RESULT:

    1.) Hosts still get you more speed & reliability via hardcoded favorite sites where you spend MOST of your time online (nobody surfs the ENTIRE web)!

    (Like probably 95++% of it)

    &

    2.) HOSTS ALWAYS WILL BE ABLE TO BLOCK MALWARE. BOTNETS, PHISH/SPAM

    (As most of its served by host-domain names which hosts can block)

    * For IP address served ones, by far the lesser used, use your firewall rules!

    APK

    P.S.=> Be smarter & more efficient by USING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE NATIVELY BUILT INTO YOUR SYSTEMS - why?

    Well, it's faster + more proven & OPERATES IN KERNELMODE speed vs. slower usermode with excessive RAM + CPU usage & messagepassing overheads bloat on already SLOWER usermode browsers + hosts & firewalls also OPERATE LONG BEFORE ADDONS DO1

    (... & Hosts do all that, for FAR Less resources consumed too - bonus!)... apk

  51. No shit! by AdamStarks · · Score: 1

    Cows shit milk?

  52. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They look more like truth and facts you trolls can't validly technically prove wrong. All you do is troll off topic, fail, and downmod apk. Doesn't matter. We see his posts and then he has no post limits and posts again and runs you dry of your downmod points you abuse. Do you think we all don't see that? Guess again. You're only fooling yourself.

  53. "Yahoo! Internet Life" by westlake · · Score: 1

    Prior to the rise of advertising, almost all sites were 'independent.'

    ---- and you discovered them by thumbing through the printed pages of the modestly sized Internet Yellow Pages, guide books and magazines of the era..

    It was a geek paradise defined off-campus by the limits of the dial-up modem, arcane and frustrating client software and services that were only beginning to offer affordable flat-rate monthly billing,

  54. Re:It's not spam, I'm not selling a thing by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    I said "spamposting". The word has more meaning than just marketing. Certainly, on most forums you get IP banned for posting the same text over and over again, and the offense is called "spamming".

    My main concern with a hosts based method is that if *everyone* moved to that, advertisers would sidestep around it. Already they are looking for ways to avoid the existing generation of ad blockers by injecting ads that appear to be served from the main server- once the ad servers solve "trust issues" with the "content" guys, they'll be able to have the server you think you want data from scoop an ad up and serve it with the content. While that will require the addon guys to do more work, it will shut down the hosts solutions completely.

    That being said, obviously hosts solutions are effective. I never disputed that. But I made a post saying "list things with no acceptable ads", and there's a lot about the apk engine I can't easily google. I have no idea what is (and is not) added to its blocklist, for instance.

  55. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by fisted · · Score: 1

    You sure advertise a lot. You're worse than a full-screen flash ad.

  56. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does your hosts file work when client is using a proxy server?
    Don't tell me to edit the hosts file on proxy server.

  57. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts is for apks.apks say hooooosts!!hoooooosts!!hoooosts says the APK.you all APK cows.

  58. Stopped using ABP when they allowed "acceptable" by p51d007 · · Score: 2

    Ads. Switched to a combo of privacy badger & Adguard.

  59. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does your hosts file work when client is using a proxy server? Don't tell me to edit the hosts file on proxy server.

  60. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by andymadigan · · Score: 1

    You're obviously APK, but try this:

    One of his points is that a hosts file can protect against spam, which is about as likely as aspirin protecting against spam unless you're hosting your own mail server (and who the hell would run a mail server on Windows?).

    As for the rest, hosts blocking can't block the "please donate/subscribe to us" banners on sites, and blocking trackers can break various sites. That's fine when you're using something like Ghostery/uBlock, where you can temporarily turn it off for a specific page (or even whitelist just one tracker on one site, i.e. whitelist New Relic on New Relic). A hosts file is a sledge hammer approach.

    APK's standard response (those bits that are comprehensible) seem to revolve around these plugins using too much memory/CPU time. If I was concerned about that I'd still be using a green screen terminal. The standard solution doesn't require administrative rights, can block more, and can be turned off if it breaks a site (which means the lists can be very expansive if you want).

    APK's solution is like looking at a light bulb and deciding what the world really needs is a brighter candle.

    --
    The right to protest the State is more sacred than the State.
  61. Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since there is NO advertising this is acceptable, I expect it it to do exactly what it says, and block all adverts. If it doesn't do this, it will not be considered to be working properly, and it will just get deleted from my machine.

  62. Doubtful by aepervius · · Score: 1

    more likely advertiser will buy all adblock stuff around and slowly expand the acceptable ad programs until it becomes useless. If I learned one thing from history is that advertiser will go nuclear and escalate very quickly to the point of self destruction by obnoxiousness (pop up and pop under came relatively quickly in existence and became the plague they are, same with audio video ads).

    --
    C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
    visit randi.org
  63. blockable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When that message came a few days ago, it told me that I can keep all ads blocked as it used to do, so I unchecked that acceptable stuff option and everything is as usual. I just hope it stays that way :)

  64. HOSTS is for morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HOSTS needs to die. Anyone that uses it for any purpose other than development or debugging is a moron.

    Be nice if we could work out some solid collaborative way to make my block discoveries help you with yours

    So like a DNS blacklist then? Or just
    *.cn
    *.ru
    *.facebook.com

    You and APK should go jump off a bridge together.

  65. i leave the ads on slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I probably shouldn't anymore since its owned by a crook now.

  66. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a spam source is a hostname served one and blocked in hosts then it is blocked.

  67. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  68. My program whitelists vs. those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: The guys from Malwarebytes' hphosts who recommend & host my program here http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... actively update vs. that a LOT!

    Those guys (with help from Henry Hertz Hobbitt from hostfile.org, this guy is GOOD, really good @ it) more regularly on their end in the data!

    That's since that beats that to the punch quickly than myself recompiling!

    See, my filters in my code?

    They have gotten BIG (10k lines easily of 30k total in the program fully error trapped) against that, & SO big, that I literally had to write a program to WRITE MY PROGRAM in the filter section, lol!

    (Plus, later during rebuilds, I add their AND MY filters I find OCCASIONALLY that might 'break' say, a site captcha logon (which we've hit before & correct against thus...).

    * Nicest part is, hosts are EASILY HAND-EDITED & the data is EASY TO UNDERSTAND, far moreso than adblock regex or DNS rules tables - massively LESS complexity & easy understanding!

    (Especially since my program produces a host minus comment bloat & alphabetically sorted, even notepad.exe's edit menu FIND function can edit the hosts file for you vs such offending entires you may not like).

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "But APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    Thanks, & I know - what evidences it for me? Well, easy:

    Trolls ALWAYS "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. this FAIR CHALLENGE I put to them to validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    They NEVER can, it's impossible - lol... I love it!

  69. Repost vs. abused downmod 4th time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong (clearly you can't) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and all you can manage is to "downmod" my posts (abusing modpoints, so I just EASILY get trolls doing it that like clearly inferior products to BLOW ALL THEIR MODPOINTS, running them dry of them, & I just repost again afterwards, winning as per usual on MY part since YOU CAN'T GET THE BETTER OF ME proving me validly technically wrong (impossible) listed below, lol...

    * :)

    (Yes, it's THAT EASY FOR ME, on all fronts noted above... lol!)

    Lastly: It appears all you can do is issue abused downmods but not prove me wrong http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... + http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... & http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, you just KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it, now don't you? Ah, but of COURSE you do! Here 'tis (in my own "inimitiable style"):

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is vs. INFERIOR DOLTS that infest /. ... lol!

    NO LIMITS HERE BOYS -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "No scenario? I see every scenario - I see 50 scenarios! That what it does, Karl: IT PUTS ME 50 MOVES AHEAD OF YOU..."

    ... apk

  70. 1 for your list: The best one = hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & not 'souled-out' to advertisers, + adds speed, security, & reliability, doing FAR more w/ FAR less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    It obtains its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!

    It does all that using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' in addons that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads!

    * :)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ---

    "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  71. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  72. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  73. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  74. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  75. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  76. It's not spam, I'm not selling a thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: It's free - You /.'ers prove me wrong for once instead of downmodding my posts? I wouldn't repost - that's to SPITE the shitheads doing it showing them I can burn them outta modpoints easily & the repost, easily "nullifying" their 1 effete 'weapon' of the weasel!

    (& they can't stop me there either, or validly technically prove my points on hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability & anonymity, doing FAR MORE for FAR LESS resources consumed + less complexity).

    ---

    Good Engineering is DOING MORE with LESS - & I'm using what you ALREADY NATIVELY HAVE in hosts to do so combined with firewalls for IP address served threats etc.!

    (I use hosts files vs. host-domain name served ads & malware/botnets etc. which is BY FAR the most prevalent type since fastflux works for botnet herders & stopping IP address threats @ higher levels like ICANN etc. is cake for them once known)

    It's smarter & BETTER ENGINEERING by far vs. STUPIDLY & ILLOGICALLY "bolting on 'MoAr'" that doesn't DO AS MUCH & yet USES MORE + operates in slower usermode vs. hosts in kernelmode which operate way, Way, WAY before browser addons ever do too - yet using less in resources AND DOING FAR MORE FOR YOU in added speed, security, reliability + anonymity...

    * That, no matter HOW you cut it, is STUPID & ILLOGICAL to do...

    APK

    P.S.=> Anyhow, thanks for telling me I am right here:

    "But APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    Thanks, & I know - what evidences it for me? Well, easy:

    Trolls ALWAYS "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. this FAIR CHALLENGE I put to them to validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... - they NEVER do, lol... I love it!

    ... apk

  77. Best adblocker (+ more, by far & for less)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & not 'souled-out' to advertisers, + adds speed, security, & reliability, doing FAR more w/ FAR less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    It obtains its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!

    It does all that using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' in addons that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads!

    * :)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ---

    "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  78. For the best custom hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & not 'souled-out' to advertisers, + adds speed, security, & reliability, doing FAR more w/ FAR less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    It obtains its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!

    It does all that using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' in addons that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads!

    * :)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ---

    "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  79. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  80. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    ---

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    ---

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  81. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  82. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  83. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  84. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  85. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Bypass dns blocks
    12.) Bypass dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER than hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antiviruses in BOTH a 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  86. LMAO: "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" = Pikoro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't touch the 16 points I list in favor of custom hosts files adding more speed, security, reliability & anonymity http://slashdot.org/comments.p... fool...

    * :)

    (Nobody can... fact!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're unable to validly technically prove ALL OF MY POINTS I note above wrong & you RAN 'forrest'... & you certainly can't create a better program than mine is either you waste of life troll... apk

  87. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol that's what I did. But I control the proxy server. You could also edit the hosts file on the DNS server. Which I own as well on my network. Don't rely on other people is the short answer.

  88. Re: You're more than welcome by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I have learned, it is just best to ignore him. He uses our +modded posts to be visible, every time we respond to him, it is his way of getting around being an AC with 0 or -1 modding.

    --
    APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  89. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, all it takes is the ad networks to use IPs in sites instead of DNS, and APKs hosts files can't block it anymore.

    --
    APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  90. DNS security issues that hosts counter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (NOT OpenDNS) get exploited by malware ALL THE TIME!

    Rogue DNS servers are another form of DNS exploit (even in routers, not just your system's IP stack settings).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    By using hosts with favorite sites you hardcode in them YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily!

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favorites @ top of hosts (20 of them beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory (hosts are cached like any file is), additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off the slower usermode clientside DNS cache service, instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS that help block out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNSBLs (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like that! Especially since DNS goes down a LOT!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    APK

    P.S.=> Plus, locally setup DNS eats more cpu cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O needlessly (when hosts can do the job locally with less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

    1. Re:DNS security issues that hosts counter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nevermind that, i suck cocks

      APK

      P.S.=> No, really. I suck cocks

  91. You don't ignore me: You RUN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since none of you can validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * :)

    (You know it - I KNOW IT - heck, anyone reading with 1/2 a brain KNOWS it...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes, it's THAT obvious... apk

  92. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    This needs an upmod, that is at least funny if not also insightful.

    --
    APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  93. FTFY: You can't prove me wrong & downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You can't validly technically prove all my points on hosts wrong http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... so you downmod them to "hide" them!

    (When everyone sees them anyway since most here browse well below +1 default moderation threshold - so that's pointless & weak on YOUR part troll)

    OR

    I just repost again (no limits on that here unlike most ac posters) NULLIFYING YOUR 1 EFFETE "weapon" & @ the same time, BURNING YOU OUT OF THEM eventually (so the next person isn't a victim of your bullshit tactics - BUT YOU ARE THE VICTIMS OF MY CRUSHING THE LIFE OUT OF YOU PUBLICLY HERE THOUGH, see link below regarding YOU specifically, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> It's THAT simple Coren22 - lol, & YOU CAN'T STAND IT that I've easily outthought, outsmarted, outfoxed, & just plain OUTED you & yours, in weak trolls (especially wannabe security gurus like YOU -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ) as well as exposing that you're nothing more than a BY ROTE MENIAL who couldn't write a program FOR SECURITY to save his life... YOU? You don't have what it takes in skills in computing & you KNOW it... prove otherwise! Hell security companies take fixes from me & host + RECOMMEND my wares: How about you, wannabe security man? ZERO... apk

  94. You "learned" because I schooled you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You can't validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... so you downmod them to "hide" them (everyone sees them anyway since most here browse well below +1 default moderation threshold - so that's pointless & weak on YOUR part troll)

    OR

    I just repost again (no limits on that here unlike most ac posters) NULLIFYING YOUR 1 EFFETE "weapon" & @ the same time, BURNING YOU OUT OF THEM (so the next person isn't a victim of your bullshit tactics - BUT YOU ARE THE VICTIMS OF MY CRUSHING THE LIFE OUT OF YOU PUBLICLY HERE THOUGH, lol).

    WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED TO DO AFTER I SCHOOL THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SORRY LAME WEAK ASS IS TO RUN!

    You know it, I know it - everyone reading does - & the link below proves it better than anything else does!

    APK

    P.S.=> It's THAT simple Coren22 - lol, & YOU CAN'T STAND IT that I've easily outthought, outsmarted, outfoxed, & just plain OUTED you & yours, in weak trolls (especially wannabe security gurus like YOU -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ) as well as exposing that you're nothing more than a BY ROTE MENIAL who couldn't write a program FOR SECURITY to save his life... YOU? You don't have what it takes in skills in computing & you KNOW it... prove otherwise! Hell security companies take fixes from me & host + RECOMMEND my wares: How about you, wannabe security man? ZERO... apk

  95. Firewalls would then (I use them with hosts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: *try* all your "theoreticals" but they aren't reality - firewalls work then, hosts still get you speed too (hardcodes) & WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ISN'T REALITY MORON, lol... & hosts still stop malwares/botnets served up that way (the majority way vs. by IP addres by FAR & reasons are below for that)

    Coren22 = The boy from theoretical "phantasy land" & wannabe security guru (see ps below)... lol!

    CLUE/FACT:

    The majority of ads AND ONLINE THREATS are served up by host-domain names since blowing them out by IP address is very easy for ICANN/IANA etc. forever dusting those as known bad ones

    (... whereas by comparison, host-domain names are EASILY MIGRATED to other hosting providers to do "dirty work", ala "fastflux" botnets...)

    APK

    P.S.-> That's WHY host-domain names are used by FAR over IP addresses dolt (& you call yourself a "security" person? I showed EVERYONE 'what's-what' on YOU there too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... lol...

    (Fact: You're a no accomplishments of any good note done by yourself wannabe by rote unskilled limited MENIAL that you are - security companies HOST & RECOMMEND my programs, & other security companies TAKE MY FIXES FOR THEIR WARES - what about you? ZERO... lol! )

  96. DNS security + speed issues hosts beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (not OpenDNS) get exploited by malware ALL THE TIME!

    Rogue DNS servers are another form of DNS exploit (even in routers not just system IP stack settings).

    * Using hosts with favorite sites you hardcode in them YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily & THIS RESOLVES FAR FASTER THAN CALLING TO REMOTE DNS SERVERS (especially exploited or downed ones noted (dns goes down a LOT)).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favorites @ top of hosts (20 of them beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory (hosts are cached like any file is), additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off the slower usermode clientside DNS cache service, instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS that help block out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNSBLs (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like that! Especially since DNS goes down a LOT!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    APK

    P.S.=> Plus, locally setup DNS eats more cpu cycles, RAM, & I/O needlessly (when hosts can do the job w/ less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

  97. Ads served from same site != practical 4 "$" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Even if by some miracle sites served their own ads (better than infection by them ala http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... + http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... ) from the same address as the server, which they don't since advertisers don't trust webmaster ALLEGED clickcounts on ads?

    Guess what? TWO GOOD THINGS RESULT:

    1.) Hosts still get you more speed & reliability via hardcoded favorite sites where you spend MOST of your time online (nobody surfs the ENTIRE web)!

    (Like probably 95++% of it)

    &

    2.) HOSTS ALWAYS WILL BE ABLE TO BLOCK MALWARE. BOTNETS, PHISH/SPAM

    (As most of its served by host-domain names which hosts can block)

    * For IP address served ones, by far the lesser used, use your firewall rules!

    APK

    P.S.=> Be smarter & more efficient by USING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE NATIVELY BUILT INTO YOUR SYSTEMS - why?

    Well, it's faster + more proven & OPERATES IN KERNELMODE speed vs. slower usermode with excessive RAM + CPU usage & messagepassing overheads bloat on already SLOWER usermode browsers + hosts & firewalls also OPERATE LONG BEFORE ADDONS DO1

    (... & Hosts do all that, for FAR Less resources consumed too - bonus!)... apk

    1. Re:Ads served from same site != practical 4 "$" by cm5oom · · Score: 1

      Can't even have a reasonable discussion with you, it's just spam spam spam. You're just as bad as the advertisers you fight against. I'd add you to my host file if it would block your posts but it can't, have to use a browser plugin for that.

    2. Re:Ads served from same site != practical 4 "$" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apk posts facts you can't get the best of and he cremates your bullshit easily. Apk can post on hosts. Fools using crippled bribed inefficient redundant addons do. So can he.

  98. DNS security + speed issues hosts counter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (not OpenDNS) get exploited by malware A LOT!

    Rogue DNS servers are DNS exploit (even in routers not just system IP stack settings).

    * Using hosts w/ fav sites you hardcode in 'em YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily & IT RESOLVES FAR FASTER THAN CALLING TO REMOTE DNS SERVERS (especially exploited or downed ones noted (dns goes down a LOT)).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favs @ top of hosts (20 of 'em beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory locally (hosts cache like any file) additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off a slower usermode clientside DNS cache service instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS blocking out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNS blocking (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like it! Especially since DNS goes down a LOT!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    With much easier understood & edited data vs. DNS rules by far.

    APK

    P.S.=> Locally setup DNS eats more cpu, RAM, & I/O needlessly (hosts do the job w/ less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

  99. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  100. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (for reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dns blocks
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs. addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in browsers via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER vs. hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  101. They can't detect hosts (like addons can be) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: There's no native browser method for it like there is for detecting & blocking browser addon users. Hosts operate way, Way, WAY BEFORE addons ever do, with less resource consumption & complexity doing FAR MORE for FAR LESS... no questions asked.

    SO YOU KNOW - I can't be "banned" here... impossible.

    There's only 1 semi-possible way they could do it - do you KNOW what it is, in webserver software?

    I do... & I can get around that too, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: I'm merely stating facts & when the losers here can't prove those facts from reputable sources wrong? They downmod my posts to TRY "hide them" via effete downmods I merely post again vs. burning them out of their modpoints that get abused for trying to snuff my posts from sight since they can't validly & technically prove me wrong - they stop that? I wouldn't REPOST - So, in the end?

    I always win, inevitably... apk

  102. I believe Freddie Mercury said it best... by r-diddly · · Score: 1

    ...when he said "another one bites the dust."

  103. I look for malicious payload sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Malicious payload links in spam (there usually always is one) - yes, even junkmail's useful to me in hosts.

    APK

    P.S.=> Block those? You can't get burned by a fire you can't touch either... apk

    1. Re:I look for malicious payload sources by andymadigan · · Score: 1

      That doesn't block spam itself, and I've seen plenty of links in spam that do point directly to an IP address, it's probably the most common place I see such links.

      --
      The right to protest the State is more sacred than the State.
  104. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You were demolished when you were exposed for not knowing what a DNSBL is. Excuse me now while I laugh at you some more.

  105. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  106. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (for reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dns blocks
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs. addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in browsers via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER vs. hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  107. APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ does whitelists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Vs. that & personnel from Malwarebytes' hphosts who RECOMMEND & host my program http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... actively update vs. that occurring - A LOT!

    Those guys (w/ help from Henry Hertz Hobbitt from hostfile.org, this guy is GOOD - really good @ it) more regularly on their end in the data!

    Since that beats it to the punch quickly (vs. myself recompiling) in the data imported itself!

    See, my filters in my code have gotten BIG (10k lines easily of 30k total in the program fully error trapped) against that, & SO big, that I literally had to write a program to WRITE MY PROGRAM in the filter section, lol!

    (Plus, later during rebuilds, I add their new + MY new filters I find OCCASIONALLY that might 'break' say, a site captcha logon (which we've hit before & correct against thus...))

    * Nicest part is, hosts are EASILY HAND-EDITED & the data is EASY TO UNDERSTAND, far moreso than adblock regex or DNS rules tables - massively LESS complexity & easy understanding!

    (Especially since my program produces a host minus comment bloat & alphabetically sorted, even notepad.exe's edit menu FIND function can edit the hosts file for you vs such offending entires you may not like).

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "But APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    Thanks, & I know - what evidences it for me? Well, easy: Trolls ALWAYS "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. this FAIR CHALLENGE I put to them to validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... - they NEVER do validly technically prove that wrong &, lol... I love it!

    ... apk

  108. For the BEST custom hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & not 'souled-out' to advertisers, + adds speed, security, & reliability, doing FAR more w/ FAR less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    It obtains its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!

    It does all that using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' in addons that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads!

    * :)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ---

    "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  109. 1 word answer: Yes & in bold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Proxomitron - a proxy that works with hosts http://codeverge.com/grc.secur...

    (For those that feel the need to illogically "Bolt-On-'MoAr'" for no reason that is, adding complexity + resource consumption for bad ROI - when what you have already built-in natively in hosts + firewalls do it all pretty much, for more speed/security/reliability/anonymity from 1 file than "all of Humpty Dumpty's Men" in other "so-called 'solutions'" do that SLOW YOU DOWN - hosts speed you up in ways no single of them can, for less, with what you already have...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Always a pleasure slamming the mouths of trolls shut easily via truth & fact... apk

  110. 2 ways make you look dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I diffuse the bomb, & email filters vs. it (hats off to MS - theirs is GOOD in hotmail/outlook.com) - totally "gone with the dawn"...

    * :)

    (... & so are you, easily... it's "what I do/how I roll")

    APK

    P.S.=> My subsequent posts in response will further evidence it (I title them "The Self-Destruction of AndyMadigan" - another RIT dolt I've dismantled publicly for thinking he could get the better of me & failed hugely - lol, especially considering GOOGLE OWNS VIRUSTOTAL (head doesn't know what the ass is doing it seems in your implications that way, eh? Good - works for me, thanks - I even 'held off' vs. other trolls here on /. today, saving the BEST of 'yours truly' utterly dismantling you easily...)... apk

  111. The self-destruction of andymadigan #1/2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "uBlock is using 33MB of RAM" - by andymadigan (792996) on Friday June 12, 2015 @10:31PM (#49902053)

    Inefficient: Hosts @ 3-11mb w/ current data & does things adblock variants can't & U RAN FROM IT http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... ).

    UBlock uses 63++ MB & AdBlock = 128mb++ -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    BEST UBlock's done = 38mb/ABP = 64mb -> http://www.extremetech.com/wp-... From http://www.extremetech.com/wp-...

    * See 'p.s.' below - Says all (& I didn't do the saying!)

    ---

    "which blocks more ads? Answer: uBlock/Adblock" by andymadigan (792996) on Sunday June 14, 2015 @12:04AM (#49907001)

    WRONG - "Almost ALL Ads Blocked"'s PAID NOT TO by default-> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    &

    ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    UBlock/Adblock = far less efficient on CPU & RAM (added messagepassing, SLOW usermode vs. hosts in kernelmode) & NEITHER does a fraction of what hosts do in more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity.

    ---

    "your system blocks fewer ads" by andymadigan (792996) on Sunday June 14, 2015 @12:04AM (#49907001)

    See above: + hosts do MORE w/ less via 1st link above!

    ---

    "I'm more than happy to spend an extra 1% of my computer's power to block far more ads than your shitty idea" by andymadigan (792996) on Sunday June 14, 2015 @12:04AM (#49907001)

    You're 'happy' being illogical & stupid?

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU use inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it & NOT hosts (clarityray BLOCKS addons via native browser methods).

    ---

    YOU started it -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... & here too http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    I finished YOU WITH IT all above!

    APK

    P.S.=> Howard Stark in "Capt. America" - hosts (Cap's Shield) vs. AdBlock & variants (steel):

    "It's stronger than steel & 1/3rd the weight"

    So

    "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" & "eat your words"

    ... apk

  112. The self-destruction of andymadigan #2/2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Chrome has thankfully started warning users who try to download it." - by andymadigan (792996) on Sunday June 14, 2015 @03:48PM (#49909947)

    Google can try explaining it vs. proof my ware's CLEAN:

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who also has the source & verified it safe too) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    * :)

    In case you hadn't noticed it, like when you made your PUNY THREATS effetely *trying* to "blackmail me" on Hilton Hotels here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ?

    (which I could give 2 fucks about, I made the money already on a successfully done large scale project with them on contract)

    I SMOKED YOU TOTALLY @ EVERY TURN, & who started it twice here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... AND HERE TOO http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... saying "I should die painfully" etc. - et al?

    You failed badly on all accounts.

    APK

    P.S.=> Especially funny is that you seem to work for CLOUDWORDS (an advertiser affiliate of Marketo) which tips your hand & PROVED YOUR ILL MOTIVES for your stupidity, running away from this most of all -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ... apk

  113. Why try to hide this (2x downmod)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock's in slower usermode clogging browsers w/ more messagepassing, cpu, & ram overuse. Hosts in kernelmode (which is higher cpu serviced & faster) are faster by far (like 1000x so). Adblock's rules have gotten so big it slows itself down is my suspicion.

    * Heh, even posting "PURE AC" by not 'signing off' as APK here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... AND ? The trolling off topic shills & stooges of advertisers DOWNMODDED THIS VERY POST last time I posted it... lol!

    (They're afraid of me, no questions asked...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Fact: What's happening here evidences this for me - Advertiser's trolls & shills can't STAND the truth being read by those they deceive with 1/2 truths & PURE bullshit!

    (Oh, it's advertisers & webmasters obviously, malware makers/botnet herders etc. could care less - they just create more bad sites or malware or botnets! Inferior competitors is another possible but imo @ least, they got their BRIBE money from Amazon, Google & Microsoft, Evidon, etc., so I don't *THINK* they're as interested anymore in blockingby abused unjustifiable downmods my points that nobody here OR ELSEWHERE ONLINE can prove wrong on hosts adding more speed, security, reliability & anonymity doing FAR MORE for FAR LESS resources consumed too + far less complexity, using what you already natively have vs. STUPIDLY & ILLOGICALLY "bolting on 'MoAr'" that operates in slower usermode consuming more RAM/CPU & other forms of I/O in browser addons or running a DNS server yourself)... apk

  114. Dns' security & reliability issues hosts beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (not OpenDNS) get exploited by malware A LOT!

    Rogue DNS servers are DNS exploit (even in routers not just system IP stack settings).

    * Using hosts w/ fav sites you hardcode in 'em YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily & IT RESOLVES FAR FASTER THAN CALLING TO REMOTE DNS SERVERS (especially exploited or downed ones noted (dns goes down a LOT)).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favs @ top of hosts (20 of 'em beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory locally (hosts cache like any file) additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off a slower usermode clientside DNS cache service instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS blocking out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNS blocking (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like it! Especially since DNS goes down a LOT!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    With much easier understood & edited data vs. DNS rules by far.

    APK

    P.S.=> Locally setup DNS eats more cpu, RAM, & I/O needlessly (hosts do the job w/ less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

  115. DNS security, speed & power issues hosts beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (not OpenDNS) get exploited by malware A LOT!

    Rogue DNS servers are DNS exploit (even in routers not just system IP stack settings).

    * Using hosts w/ fav sites you hardcode in 'em YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily & IT RESOLVES FAR FASTER THAN CALLING TO REMOTE DNS SERVERS (especially exploited or downed ones noted (dns goes down a LOT)).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favs @ top of hosts (20 of 'em beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory locally (hosts cache like any file) additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off a slower usermode clientside DNS cache service instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS blocking out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNS blocking (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like it! Especially since DNS goes down a LOT!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    With much easier understood & edited data vs. DNS rules by far.

    APK

    P.S.=> Locally setup DNS eats more cpu, RAM, & I/O needlessly (hosts do the job w/ less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

  116. Prove this wrong Coren22 (DNS vs. hosts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DNS security issues 1st hosts overcome Kaminsky redirect poisoning - 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. it.

    Open DNS resolvers (!= OpenDNS) get exploited by malware!

    Rogue DNS servers are DNS exploit (even in routers not just system IP stack settings).

    * Using hosts w/ fav sites you hardcode in 'em YOU AVOID ALL THOSE DNS SECURITY ISSUES ABOVE easily & IT RESOLVES FASTER THAN CALLING TO REMOTE DNS SERVERS (especially exploited or downed ones noted (dns goes down a LOT)).

    ---

    Hosts combined w/ OpenDNS compliment one other.

    I don't resolve 'every host-domain there is' via hosts, only my favs @ top of hosts (20 of 'em beating indexing past 2++ million records).

    It's where ANYONE spends MOST OF THEIR TIME online - & it's faster + more efficient vs. calling to remote DNS servers.

    Placement of favs thus, for FAST RESOLUTION from memory locally (hosts cache like any file) additionally saves CPU cycles, RAM, + I/O turning off a slower usermode clientside DNS cache service instead opting for the kernelmode diskcache (no context switch overhead to the IP stack either this way).

    The rest of my hosts files' entries are 3,782,195++ blocked entries vs. malware & ads of many kinds.

    I use REMOTE FILTERING DNS SERVERS blocking out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNS blocking (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or a service/daemon).

    ---

    OpenDNS:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    ---

    It LIGHTENS remote DNS loads - admins of 'em should like it!

    How do I make my hosts (& do reverse dns pings for FAV sites for faster, more reliable, & safer connections)?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    With much easier understood & edited data vs. DNS rules by far.

    APK

    P.S.=> Locally setup DNS eats more cpu, RAM, & I/O needlessly (hosts do the job w/ less complexity + room for exploit, actually COMPLIMENTING remote dns) & MORE ELECTRICAL POWER (especially if setup as a separate machine)... apk

  117. Have I ever said "hosts cure all"? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Show me ONCE where I have, ok? Trying to put words in my mouth I never said = WEAK, troll...

    HOWEVER:

    I have said that hosts do MORE for LESS than ANY OTHER SINGLE other "so-called 'solution'" by far!

    See link below in regards to DNS specifically as my posts vs. AlmostALLAdsBlocked, Ghostery, & UBlock already have proven that much all over this page!

    ---

    (... & all you WEAK TROLLS can do is downmod those posts trying to "hide" them, so I just repost GETTING YOU TO BLOW ALL YOUR MODPOINTS showing you're weak & unable to validly technically prove ME wrong (& I'm probably saving some poor fool from YOU WEAKLINGS doing that to them to as you do to me, but unlike others, I have no posting limits & beat YOU FOOLS @ YOUR OWN PUNY GAME easily!)).

    * The fact you had to DOWNMOD "HIDE" this same post last time I posted it speaks worlds/says it all http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    APK

    P.S.=> I can, however, EASILY SHOW how & where hosts overcome DNS security, reliability, speed (vs. hosts locally compared to remote DNS servers) & power consumption issues -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... WITHOUT PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH YOU NEVER SAID as you've TRIED on me here (again, see subject)... apk

  118. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  119. Privoxy's another proxy that works w/ hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Editing on a proxy server's where you do it! Why illogically & stupidly "Bolt on 'MoAr'" for no good reason (since hosts do the same as proxies do for this type of protection @ least) makes no sense - you already HAVE hosts & firewalls!
    APK

    P.S.=> Privoxy works with hosts - apk

  120. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (for reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dns blocks
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs. addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in browsers via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER vs. hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  121. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talkback
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talkback
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talkback
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (for reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dns blocks
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better vs. addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in browsers via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER vs. hosts: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  122. It's not spam, it's truth (for FREE) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I'm not selling anything - You /.'ers prove me wrong for once instead of downmodding my posts? I wouldn't repost - that's to SPITE the shitheads doing it showing them I can burn them outta modpoints easily & the repost, easily "nullifying" their 1 effete 'weapon' of the weasel!

    (& they can't stop me there either, or validly technically prove my points on hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability & anonymity, doing FAR MORE for FAR LESS resources consumed + less complexity).

    ---

    Good Engineering is DOING MORE with LESS - & I'm using what you ALREADY NATIVELY HAVE in hosts to do so combined with firewalls for IP address served threats etc.!

    (I use hosts files vs. host-domain name served ads & malware/botnets etc. which is BY FAR the most prevalent type since fastflux works for botnet herders & stopping IP address threats @ higher levels like ICANN etc. is cake for them once known)

    It's smarter & BETTER ENGINEERING by far vs. STUPIDLY & ILLOGICALLY "bolting on 'MoAr'" that doesn't DO AS MUCH & yet USES MORE + operates in slower usermode vs. hosts in kernelmode which operate way, Way, WAY before browser addons ever do too - yet using less in resources AND DOING FAR MORE FOR YOU in added speed, security, reliability + anonymity...

    * Using browser addons, no matter HOW you cut it, is STUPID & ILLOGICAL to do vs. using hosts...

    APK

    P.S.=> Anyhow, thanks for telling me I am right here:

    "But APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    Thanks, truth is right, & yes, I know - what evidences it for me? Well, easy:

    Trolls ALWAYS "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. this FAIR CHALLENGE I put to them to validly technically prove my points on hosts wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    LMAO - they NEVER do prove me wrong & downmod it to "hide" it (& most here see my posts anyways) instead, lol... I love it!

    ... apk

  123. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dns blocking
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  124. Trying to "impersonate" me? LOL, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & GROW UP (learn a bit about what you champion in DNS' downsides before I slam you again on it)...

    APK

    P.S.=> YOUR stupidity's how I KNOW I am winning - thanks! apk

  125. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You admit you use admin priv

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

    ---

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

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    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

    ---

    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE& was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out...)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" as far as security...apk