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Police Find Paris Attackers Coordinate Via Unencrypted SMS (techdirt.com)

schwit1 writes: In the wake of the tragic events in Paris last week encryption has continued to be a useful bogeyman for those with a voracious appetite for surveillance expansion. Like clockwork, numerous reports were quickly circulated suggesting that the terrorists used incredibly sophisticated encryption techniques, despite no evidence by investigators that this was the case. These reports varied in the amount of hallucination involved, the New York Times even having to pull one such report offline. Other claims the attackers had used encrypted Playstation 4 communications also wound up being bunk.

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  1. Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the subject of our respective governments' unbounded honesty, anyone knows what happened to James "Lied Under Oath" Clapper?

    1. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Squiddie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course they lie. This isn't about protecting you. Even after this revelation, watch them step up their attacks against crypto and privacy.

    2. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 5, Funny

      We couldn't intercept them without encryption, imagine if they had used any!

    3. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So now we know for sure which are the propaganda mills in "mainstream" news. I read anti-encryption articles on at least CNN, MSN, Fox, and Infoworld. Are there any others worthy of mention in this context? They are now off my list of "reputable news" sources, though they may be useful for staying up on current events... take it with a grain of salt.

    4. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before it is said (as it comes up every time): if you think that you have nothing to hide please post the following items that SHOULD be protected by encryption in reply to this post:

      A link to a copy of your birth certificate
      SSN
      Bank account number
      Bank routing number
      Mother's maiden name
      First pet's name
      Your vacation plans (complete with dates and accommodation information)
      Everything you have ever typed into a search engine
      A nude picture of yourself (clothes should be equated to encryption, I mean nothing to hide means NOTHING, right?)

      Do you still think that you have nothing to hide?

    5. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by sims+2 · · Score: 2

      /. had this a few days ago
      Belgian Home Affairs Minister: Terrorists Communicate Via PlayStation 4
      http://tech.slashdot.org/story...

      But yeah they were even pushing it during the democratic debates on the 14th.

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    6. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      The government provides your birth certificate and SSN so they already have them.

    7. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Enigma2175 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So now we know for sure which are the propaganda mills in "mainstream" news. I read anti-encryption articles on at least CNN, MSN, Fox, and Infoworld. Are there any others worthy of mention in this context? They are now off my list of "reputable news" sources, though they may be useful for staying up on current events... take it with a grain of salt.

      The BBC: Paris attacks: Silicon Valley in crosshairs over encryption
      Some gems from the article:
      "And I do think this is a time for particularly Europe, as well as here in the United States, for us to take a look and see whether or not there have been some inadvertent or intentional gaps that have been created in the ability of intelligence and security services to protect the people that they are asked to serve."

      while attitudes towards creating government backdoors were "hostile", that atmosphere "could turn in the event of a terrorist attack or criminal event where strong encryption can be shown to have hindered law enforcement". Paris may just be that event.

      Also, some jackwagon New York prosecutor is calling for legislation mandating phone manufactures use weak encryption and provide backdoors for law enforcement:
      A New York prosecutor is calling for federal legislation to weaken smartphone encryption

      It's just ridiculous. Intelligence agencies and police have unprecedented data and location tracking on nearly every person in the world and it's STILL NOT ENOUGH for them. They will never be satisfied, even if every person in the world provided them a 24/7 video feed they would demand constant brainwave scans to "protect our children". It's time to say enough is enough and remove the people in favor of a surveillance state from a position of power, either by voting them out of office or voting the people who appointed them out of office.

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    8. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The government provides your birth certificate and SSN so they already have them.

      *whoosh*

    9. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean everyone else should have it then? If we don't have strong unbreakable encryption or only have weak or no encryption then everyone has access to all of your information. Not just the government. If the government can break the encryption so can the bad guys.

    10. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by gumbi+west · · Score: 2

      Clearly you never worked for the government in the US. The government is intentionally fire walled all over the place. Most people think that politicians are in charge of the day to day, but any former president (or Obama in recent comments) can tell you that they are not. Agencies are separate and communication--much less data sharing--across agencies is a huge pain in the ass. When it comes to states or counties communicating with the federal government there basically has to be a huge benefit to both sides and probably some money changing hands.

    11. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by davester666 · · Score: 2

      They used ROT312, you fool!

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    12. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lack of communication between gov't agencies is something that was talked about a lot after 9/11.

      Has everyone forgotten that?

    13. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sadly, Al Jazeera is one of the best sources of international news.

    14. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are talking to the wrong audience. Most people who read slashdot already agree.

      And the people who don't agree are going to be hard to convince. Especially hard for you to convince, because the stigma associated with intellectualism automatically biases your target audience against you.

    15. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by stiebing.ja · · Score: 1

      Link from TFA to How the Baseless 'Terrorists Communicating Over Playstation 4' Rumor Got Started describing that there still is no evidence for this, also writing about some more ridiculous ideas of how some media thought they might have communicated, e.g. writing messages to each other by firing bullets on a wall in Call of Duty

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    16. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does the entire /. community have them? It won't be just the Fed snooping, it will be all types of criminals as well. Yes /. Is criminal... people here know about VPNs and encryption, so they must be terrorists according to the FBI.

    17. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add to the list those conversations you have with your significant other (for those of us who have one) about what you like when you are being intimate. And your opinions about acquaintances, friends, and family that you share with select others. And your political thoughts. The list goes on... We all have thoughts and conversations that we don't want to share with everyone else, and which could damage our relationships and our public image if they were made public. Privacy is a real human need.

    18. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You thought those reputable before?

    19. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet here you are on slashdot.

    20. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Not ROT312! That's 12 times as encrypted as ROT26!

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    21. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      That is why s/he knows so much about it, s/he was describing themselves.

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    22. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Bank account number
      Bank routing number

      You do realize that this information is located across the bottom of every check you write right? Mine is padded with four extra numbers as the account number isn't long enough, but it clearly appears on the bottom of all of my checks.

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    23. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by RevDisk · · Score: 1

      Perhaps folks remembered that certain agencies not sharing information was a feature, not a bug. I'd honestly prefer the NSA to NOT share all of its domestic surveillance take with every agency under the sun.

    24. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not anymore. I'm a former fed. You wanna know anything about me, just ask the Chinese.

      Thanks, OPM...

    25. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      There is good sharing and bad sharing. Most of this was instituted after Nixon left office and it was discovered that there was lots of bad sharing. Most of the bad stuff that we know of relates to his monitoring of MLK--I'd look there if you're interested. So, e.g. I doubt the FBI can call the IRS and get tax records without a subpoena. Now, I believe that they do have some common sense sharing rules (e.g. if you list an illegal source of income they send it for prosecution).

      In another FBI related one they asked Census for their records on a person of interest and Census said no. Then they asked if they could go to the house with Census badges on and collect the Census data from the person--the Census said no. Then they got a subpoena for the data and Census still said no (you have to give it to the Census workers, it's not easy to stand up to FBI agents with guns AND a subpoena, but they stuck it out and did just that). Census eventually won in court and their records are not shared. A lot of this is that the Census made some big mistakes during WW II and they basically learned their lessons--no privacy, no data. And it takes a long time to build your reputation back up.

    26. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, that's a top-down view of a problem that's really bottom-up.

      It's not the people in power that "favor" surveillance, it's the people in power who want to stay in power by placating the ignorant and lazy into believing that by eliminating their privacy protection the place where they live will become a Utopia where the unicorns return and there are pots of gold under every rainbow and nothing bad will EVER happen because the Minority Report thought police will have already prevented those bad things from happening.

      Is it a crime to discuss and plan death and destruction or is it a crime to actually carry out said plan?

    27. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we realize that, write void on one and post a picture here if you think that's the same thing.

    28. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by obscuro · · Score: 1

      Uuhm. In general you're right about Nixon leaving office driving a lot of new information on surveillance of citizens into the public eye but Nixon was elected in 1969 and MLK was assassinated in 1968. So, if Nixon was monitoring MLK I'd imagine it was for a oligochaetology study.

      J. Edgar Hoover monitored MLK and pretty much everybody else. Maybe that's who you were thinking of.

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    29. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      Only if you assume Hoover moved unidirectionally in time. But, assuming that, point taken.

    30. Re: Damned Lies And Politics by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      You mean people like "cold fjord" http://slashdot.org/~cold+fjor...
      The people who grovel before the jackboots do not deserve their freedom, but I will always try to make sure they have it.

  2. The best encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    doesn't use encryption ;)

  3. Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prison for politicians that use tragedies to push their agenda and spit lies to gain support for restricting freedom.
    Yeah, all of them to prison.

    1. Re:Prison by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      A FPMITAP one.

    2. Re: Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one thing I havent heard too much of in the wake of recent privacy debates are effective alternatives to mass survailence and bulk data collection. It's something I'm legitamitely curious about.

    3. Re:Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The state PMITAPs are always much worse than the federal ones. You get a better class of ass-rapist at the state level.

    4. Re: Prison by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      effective alternatives to mass survailence and bulk data collection

      Courage. The outcomes are far superior.

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    5. Re: Prison by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Freedom, similar level of security, less government waste, following the constitution.

      The government has previously admitted that its mass surveillance efforts haven't cracked a case or helped to catch a terrorist so doing nothing would have been just as effective.

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    6. Re: Prison by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      effective alternatives

      For this to even be a question, you first have to show mass surveillance as effective. Good luck with that.

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  4. SMS by sims+2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    O RLY?

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    1. Re:SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      YA RLY

    2. Re:SMS by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Encryption isn't needed if nobody is watching.

    3. Re:SMS by JohnnyComeLately · · Score: 2

      Now that we xenophobically blocked Syrian refugees, now the Governors have announced they will keep Amierica safe by banning cell phones. "The terrorists used cell phones and this new technology they learned from Snowden (aka Moldemort) called SMS. We must not be threatened by this illegal usage of dangerous technology." Rumor has it they're going after books next and plan big book burnings and witch drownings. "I know at least one of those ISIS phuckers read a Harry Potter book," Texas governor was overheard saying.

    4. Re:SMS by rsborg · · Score: 1

      Encryption isn't needed if nobody is watching.

      Yeah, just like if you close your eyes no one can see you!

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    5. Re:SMS by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Which book was it?

    6. Re:SMS by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Maybe we can allow in all the Syrian refugees and stuff them in your home, Mr President/Sanders

    7. Re: SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO WAI!

    8. Re:SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stoning

    9. Re:SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad idea, look how it went for the Native Americans, allowing all these immigrants in, centuries ago.

    10. Re: SMS by amalcolm · · Score: 1

      LOL

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    11. Re:SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The UK title is Harry Potter and the Stoned Philosopher.

    12. Re:SMS by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that metadata is worse than the actual data in many cases, so obviously encryption alone isn't enough. It's better to use burner phones that can't be tied to individuals, and which are only used once or twice to coordinate the attack.

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    13. Re:SMS by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I am wondering how the terrorists sent unencrypted SMS as SMS is pretty heavily encrypted between the phone and tower, and while being transmitted over the network. Must be some pretty special phones to be able to send SMS without the built in encryption of cell networks.

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    14. Re: SMS by JohnnyComeLately · · Score: 1

      At the layer 2 or Rf layer yes. However the news is never that technically educated or contextual. They're referring to layer 5, or application encryption.

    15. Re: SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coren22, a/c does have a point. You presumably know that the messages are unencryted and sit in a db at the telcos site. Yet you try to confuse people with claims that the tower to phone link is encrypted.

      It's very disingenuous.

    16. Re:SMS by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I wish that ISIS would just get stoned.

  5. Justice by amightywind · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm glad the terrorists died a violent death. I am sorry Diesel the police dog was sacrificed for these muslim turds. May Diesel rest in peace.

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    1. Re: Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. May he piss and shit in their mouths for all eternity.

    2. Re:Justice by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Which brings me to an interesting thought. If no one ages in "heaven" (or whatever they call it in Islam), perhaps those 72 virgins they get are all crying babies that they murdered.

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    3. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I rather have 72 sluts.

  6. They're using it to scare the public by strstr · · Score: 0, Troll

    To support the military industrial complex.

    Wish the stupid ass people would realize all printed material is government fed propoganda, also called psychological warfare.

    Another term for it is world view warfare, coined by the Germans who invented it. America imported the German psychiatrists and mind control experts in operation paperclip. Its a form of mind control.

    obamasweapon.com

    1. Re:They're using it to scare the public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should talk to a professional about your delusions. That's extremely paranoid, even for Slashdot.

    2. Re:They're using it to scare the public by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To support the military industrial complex.

      Wish the stupid ass people would realize all printed material is government fed propoganda, also called psychological warfare.

      I realize you're going to get modded into invisibility. But before that happens, I want to say that I believe there's a lot more to the whole ISIS/Daesh story than meets the eye.

      I'm old enough to remember when people thought MK-Ultra was just some conspiracy theorists dark fantasy. I mean, how could our government be using hallucinogenics to experiment on people for the purposes of mind control? When it turned out to be true, the story changed to, "Oh that. That was a long time ago, right?" When it turns out that some rather notable mass murderers turned out to have been subjects of MK-Ultra, the story changed back to, "Oh, that's just a conspiracy theory."

      When something in the news happens and all you can say is, "What the fuck?!", sometimes you should ask yourself, what indeed, the fuck is going on.

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    3. Re:They're using it to scare the public by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should talk to a professional about your delusions. That's extremely paranoid, even for Slashdot.

      Maybe he's not the deluded one.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    4. Re:They're using it to scare the public by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Right. So where is the "surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD), hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture"?

      I mean really, I haven't seen LSD in ages.

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    5. Re:They're using it to scare the public by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Right. So where is the "surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD), hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture".

      Sounds like a modern day Frat party.

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    6. Re:They're using it to scare the public by careysub · · Score: 1

      ... When it turns out that some rather notable mass murderers turned out to have been subjects of MK-Ultra, the story changed back to, "Oh, that's just a conspiracy theory."...

      That sounds intriguing. Who were the murderers involved?

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    7. Re:They're using it to scare the public by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

      That sounds intriguing. Who were the murderers involved?

      James "Whitey" Bulger and Unabomber Ted Kaczynski are the two most famous. There is also evidence that Sirhan Sirhan and Charles Manson were subjects. And the doofus who shot John Lennon. A lot of information came out in the Church Committee hearings, but by then the CIA had already destroyed a lot of the records. Fortunately, enough documentation and testimony of participants and "researchers" survived to give a very good idea of MK-Ultra, how it worked and what they were using it for.

      I went for years thinking that the whole thing was just a myth. The evidence is pretty clear, though. The program was real and went on for decades.

      There's also a very interesting back story about how many of the original researchers died in suspicious circumstances in the year following the Church Committee hearings.

      It's one of those "open secrets" like the fact that the Reagan Administration paid and allowed drug cartels to flood the inner cities with crack cocaine to fund anti-Communist death squads in Central and South America. You ask most people and they're like, "Nah, that can't be true." But true it is. And not Alex Jones True, but real life true.

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    8. Re:They're using it to scare the public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ask most people and they're like, "Nah, that can't be true." But true it is. And not Alex Jones True, but real life true.

      The theory of the Big Lie has been around for a long time time now, at least since 1925 when it was articulated by Hitler in his Mein Kampf, and it's still used from time to time today because it tends to work, albeit less well now than it once did on account of the people having become jaded and cynical from being lied to as a matter of routine. For those who aren't familiar, the theory goes something like this:

      "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one, for nobody believes that someone could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

    9. Re:They're using it to scare the public by terbo · · Score: 1

      >> You ask most people and they're like, "Nah, that can't be true." But true it is. And not Alex Jones True, but real life true.

      Well, the regularity of atrocities has approached overwhelming proportions - videodrome. ... 1984 wasn't a warning, it was the elites' plan for utopia.

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  7. "Attackers Coordinate via Unencrypted SMS" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where is this proof in the article?..

    1. Re:"Attackers Coordinate via Unencrypted SMS" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how did they know if they weren't already spying on all your SMS messages?

  8. Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because terrorists use SMS we should monitor all SMS traffic. Because they use phones we should record all conversations. Because they use the Internet we should monitor all traffic. Because they drive cars, fly planes, and buy things at grocery stores.. we should monitor those too. In fact since terrorists use essentially everything non-terrorists use... then we should monitor everything. Put camera's in washroom stalls just in case the terrorists find a way to use them. Force people to wear microphones just in case they are terrorists. If you have done nothing wrong what do you have to worry about? Are you some kind of terrorist sympathizer? Let me mark down your objections on my suspect review and no fly list.

    Only monitoring everything will free us from the threat of tyranny once and for all. Complete and total control of everything by government officials is true freedom.

    1. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orwell's heirs may sue you for copyright infringement.

    2. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Rather odd them trying to stake a claim of the number 1984.

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    3. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rather odd them trying to stake a claim of the number 1984.

      Titles are not copyrightable, but can be trademarked. Content on the other hand is copyrightable. Also, there was a court case ruling against Intel that a number can't be trademarked, which is why they changed from the 80x86 naming convention, so Orwell's heirs can't stop people from writing their own books or series named 1984 or containing that number.

    4. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The biggest damage terrorists can do is at home. Bush and Obama primarily focuses on unrestricted mass surveillance of a global population. Since they claim that provides security it follows we shouldn't stop there. We should spy on everyone in America tool.

      1. As soon ake sure as soon as leaves their home or enter another building they are always scanned for weapons.

      1. All purchases should be monitored by the government for suspicious activity. Some products can be used to make bombs. Some book purchases are warning signs of subversive behavior.

      2. Everyone must be forced to wear at GPS and cameras at all time. Every actions that person does should be logged so it can latter be viewed later by the state in case they in some way behaved inappropriately. Preventing logging or erasing logging should be a criminal offense with stiff jail sentences.

      3. All analog data collected should be converted into a format computers will process so we can constantly check they haven't engaged in any time of inappropriate behavior. We also should begin check for flag behavior that could be a sign of future crimes.

        Only with total information awareness in the hands of government officials will the children be safe from terrorists, sexual offenders, and organized crime.

      - for my dossier at the NSA the defenders of freedom

    5. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      What like If you buy too much sudafed? http://lawstreetmedia.com/blog...

      Or Hydroponics gear?
      http://www.nydailynews.com/new...

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    6. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks for stopping by...

    7. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Put camera's in washroom stalls just in case the terrorists find a way to use them.

      So if I pee in public, not only am I a sex offender, now I'm a potential terrorist?

    8. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Reductio ad absurdum noted. Now on to the harder part -- how can we most effectively prevent acts of terrorism without doing all of the above?

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    9. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Won't they have to sue Van Halen first?

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    10. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That depends on how big your weapon of mass disruption is.

    11. Re: Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By exterminating them.

    12. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put camera's in washroom stalls just in case the terrorists find a way to use them.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X55VOI9DXkI

    13. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vigilance by the People. (no, this does not mean calling the cops if one little tiny thing is out of place in your world)
      Realization that terrorism cannot be completely eradicated.
      Stop your elected officials from bowing to the pressure of terrorism (ie: Gitmo releasees, paying terrorists and hoping they will release hostages, etc).

      And, above all, being responsible for your own life, including the defense of that life.

    14. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Offer would-be terrorists better prospects. That is educate them in a no-nonsense way, and have affordable mental care.

    15. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it?

      Every single day, prominent elements of both the left and right, who claim to stand for freedom, advocate more and more measures we once thought of as Orwellian. How exactly do collecting naked webcam pictures of Yahoo users "save" us from terrorists? Don't the NSA (and their shameless peeping Tom pals at the GHCQ and rest of the five eyes) already wholesale spy on humanity? What does that say to the rest of humanity about whether they should respect our privacy?

      And what kind of gullible moron believes that if we ban end to end encryption (like some buffoons in our government currently want) that terrorists will follow their rules? Is it hard to encrypt and decrypt offline? In practice isn't the vast majority of data being collected have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism? isn't the vast majority data being collected really just information about Joe Public? It's a power grab by those with those with most access to government leadership under the guise of fighting terrorism. Their data is their data. And your data is their data. Neat trick that.

      At ever point in history, every time there was a terrorist act by some foreigner... some politician would yell how they should take away more of our rights. Enough is enough. I would rather some terrorists and criminals occasionally get away with their crimes than give an inch more of my freedom. Our privacy is ours. It doesn't belong to some paranoid control freak bureaucrat who thinks they have a right to spy on all of us. Let me suggest that we should not become monsters to protect ourselves monster. Brave whistleblowers like Snowden are heroes and we are treating him like a criminal. There are ethical lines that should be crossed when it comes to security... that we are currently crossing.

      Data mining and analysis of publicly available sources is perfectly fine. We can leave some allowance for government spying on targeted individuals with proper judicial oversight. Wholesale spying of private data whether its on America, or on any other country in the world, is morally unacceptable

      Fixing the system through legislative means though non-partisan grass roots work would seem the ideal but unfortunately really is no difference between current Republican and Democrat leadership when it comes to respecting privacy. When Nixon was caught spying on Democrats we called it criminal. When Obama violates not only the rights of Americans but billions of people's human right to privacy, we call it "security". We need to start a serious discussion about prosecuting politicians and snoops that continue to cross these ethical lines no matter what party we vote for.

      In my opinion, sSince both sides of the aisle currently try to force large companies to be government snoops, the main way to change the game is for the IT sector to circumnavigate their agenda by developing open source technology that makes is easy for John Q. to do zero knowledge end-to-end encryption. Much like MPAA/RIAA are have to play wack-a-mole with P2P, we have to do the same with encryption. Make encryption so ubiquitous, so varied, so easy for non-techies, that it keeps government power in check by forcing them to do some old fashioned legwork.

    16. Re:Inch by inch tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo

  9. Common pattern by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember when Saddam had some complex masterplan for building chemical and nuclear weapons? And Al Qaeda were criminal masterminds? Now it is ISIL (The Tiny Penises) that have sophisticated methods that only our authorities can figure out if you give them unlimited powers.
    I feel that this terror threat is vastly over-stated. Saddam was not a really threat (a little but not that much). Al Qaeda weren't really a threat (sure they killed people, but hardly enough to roll over your way of life for), and now The Tiny Pensis are a threat (no they aren't).

    To put it in perspective, the Police in the US have killed more civilians this year than The Tiny Penises have in France.

    Terrorists are shitty humans, but it's not enough to give up for freedom and privacy for.

    1. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And both have killed more than the Swiss Guard have in the Vatican. So? You are comparing apples and merde.

    2. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      To put it in perspective, the Police in the US have killed more civilians this year than The Tiny Penises have in France.

      That's a pretty low bar, considering that deaths in the US as a result of terrorism amortizes to a yearly figure around that of deaths by vending machine.

    3. Re: Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And since government should be about utilitarian allocation of resources, I'm sure the budget allocations are proportional to that.

    4. Re:Common pattern by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Come on they have had warnings on them not to tilt or shake them for years. Are they just trying for a darwin?

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    5. Re:Common pattern by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And ISIL has killed more people in Syria and Iraq than the police in the US have. Or are you saying that only first world, western lives count?

      ISIS is a bunch of fucking assholes who have taken a select number of passages out of a holy book and twisted them to fit their means. They rape, murder, steal, and a number of other horrible crimes. And they are creating greater racism around the world.

      We won't beat them by giving up our freedoms. We aren't going to beat them by dropping bombs on them. It's going to take a long, hard battle on the ground. But what is really going to defeat them in the long run is people getting along. Having temples attacked, blaming all Muslims, or calling for the refugees not to be admitted is just feeding the anger that causes people who join ISIS. They already feel apart from society and when we do those things we drive them further away. We need to embrace everyone and create an inclusive society or there will be other groups after ISIS.

    6. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saddam was a threat because he wanted to trade oil in euros. If he was allowed to, other countries would've joined him and the dollar would collapse.

    7. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > And ISIL has killed more people in Syria and Iraq than the police in the US have. Or are you saying that only first world, western lives count?

      When domestic surveillance is being justified by domestic deaths then domestic lives are already the topic of discussion.

    8. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And Al Qaeda were criminal masterminds?

      Remember Bin Laden's billion dollar underground super fortress in Tora Bora?

      http://www.edwardjayepstein.co...

    9. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Rumsfeld's AlQaeda high tech bunkers, with computing centers, infrared SAMs, bunkers...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJe5l_ELSA/

    10. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The comparison is between two different risk assessment errors and thus completely valid.

    11. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is the war on vending machines!! We demand safety from this menace!!

    12. Re:Common pattern by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      Or, it's really the idea chemical weapons require some complex master plan is vastly over-stated. One doesn't need a full lab to make WWI level chemicals, just a few ingredients many have in their house already.

    13. Re:Common pattern by s.petry · · Score: 1

      Since we never found anything like this, it must be the same place they hid all the WMDs and those pesky mobile chemical weapons factories. Rumsfeld did say that those "secret" entrances were large enough for big trucks, so it makes perfect sense.

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    14. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you say is true and we shouldn't give the terrorists more attention than they deserve. However, that being said and all other things being equal, I would still prefer to see the terrorists killed, preferably using the cheapest and most effective means possible. We should allocate the limited resources that we're able to devote to combating terrorism with those goals in mind. The terrorists are attacking us on the cheap, so maybe we shouldn't be spending millions of dollars a pop to kill them with cruise missiles when a few barrel bombs rolled out the back of a cargo plane and costing at most a few thousand dollars apiece could do the job just as well. After all, these are people with limited to no air defense capability. They would be sitting ducks in a large scale air raid of the sort that flattened Dresden in WWII.

    15. Re:Common pattern by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Saddam was not a really threat (a little but not that much)

      Saddam was a huge threat. He almost developed nukes until his reactors were bombed. He had chemical weapons. He had the fourth largest military on the planet, engaged in a lot of skirmishes with Iran and engaged in a war of conquest against a defenceless neighbor.

      Now all that shook out in the mit-to-late 80's, early 90's...

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    16. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same fallacy as "APT": whenever the "defenders of safety" fail to deliver on their hollow promises to protect the public from "Bad People": it's always because of the superhero level sophistication of the bad guys vs. the ineptitude of the good guys.

      The reality is: being a SMART bad guy is where the money is(dumb bad guys make crappy pay and then get arrested for the privilege), whereas people become "good guys" for a steady paycheck and career stability.

      Essentially, they shoot inept fish in a barrel for a living and pretty much accept that it isn't cost effective to expend resources worrying about unicorns. For this reason: "superhero level" really translates to: "IQ above 85".

      The smart criminals let the dumb criminals do their dirty work for them, and they have none of the traditional safety-nets available to regular employees. It's exploitation and Social-Darwinism wrapped up in a jail sandwich.

      The secret to being a smart bad-guy is the Dunning Kruger effect. The most despicable villains I'm aware of think they're the hero's of their story. The movies "Black Mass"/"Sicario" give this subject a nice treatment. Moral of the story: CIA doesn't have the same sort of internal affairs bullshit so if you want to play "ends justify the means" games: avoid "The Bureau" lest you become the career-building sacrificial goat of some ambitious attorney.

      It's pretty fucked up how the FBI would use Whitey Bulger/his case-handler to clean up the mob, and then throw them in to "The Brazen Bull" once they're done as a show of gratitude. Sort of a "fuck you" to wash their hands of the dirty laundry created while taking out the trash.

      Military does the same shit to our veterans though. Just go to a VA hospital if you want to see the "Wham bam thank you mam!" treatment for the unsuspecting at work.

    17. Re:Common pattern by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And ISIL has killed more people in Syria and Iraq than the police in the US have. Or are you saying that only first world, western lives count? .

      In domestic policy matters, yes.

    18. Re:Common pattern by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Nazi Germany was a threat in 1938, should we also invade them now?
      I shall clarify for the pedants. Saddam was not really a threat to us when we made the decision to invade his country.

    19. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Religion is exactly what's in the way of people getting along. The main force precluding that "embracing of everyone" and the creation of that inclusive society is religion. Every major religion claims exclusivity to itself, and preaches the exclusion of all the other ones in their holy texts. It's no wonder peaceful cultural pluralism has proved itself impossible.

      By the way, religious adherence does not constitute a race, much less so with Islam, which is a missionary religion, and accepts ANY convert, from ANY race, birthplace, ancestry or religion.

      You can be sure they don't need to twist any passages from the holy book for inspiration. That's what moderates do. Extremists have the most accurate and straightforward interpretations and the most knowledge about the religion. Those fundamentalist terrorists merely refuse to ignore the passages the moderates have been forced to ignore in order to live in modern societies.

      People are not joining ISIS/ISIL/Daesh because they are being marginalized, denied asylum, kept in povery or humiliated. Time and again those terrorist attacks are being shown to have been perpetrated by well-of, college educated people, who have never suffered as a result of western aggression. In fact, the refugees are not all muslims, and muslim communities are not the only victims of western aggression. There is only one substantial, consistent and persistent difference between those "victims" who choose to blow themselves up in the middle of civilians and those who do not, and I'll let you guess what that is.

      Finally, do I really need to explain to you the difference between cops killing people in the U.S., civilians dying in a WAR ZONE, and people blowing themselves up in the busy streets of a major western city?

      (and, yes, I did paraphrase Sam Harris's "The End of Faith" for much of the above; his is the best articulation of the above facts)

    20. Re:Common pattern by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      It's interesting to note that most of the terrorists identified in these latest atrocities had convictions for various abominable crimes (Murder, Armed Robbery etc) prior to being radicalized.

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    21. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And ISIL has killed more people in Syria and Iraq than the police in the US have. Or are you saying that only first world, western lives count?.

      Police Killings USA 2014 624
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014

      Civilians killed in Syria by ISIL since 2011 according to Syrian Networks for Human Rights 1712
      http://sn4hr.org/wp-content/pdf/english/Who_Are_Killing_Civilians_in_Syria_en.pdf

    22. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The vast majority of those civilians weren't exactly innocent people just minding their business, either. A few maybe, but not anywhere near most.

    23. Re:Common pattern by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Well, he also invaded Kuwait, with designs on Saudi Arabia, but interestingly, no one mentions that anymore. He wanted a stranglehold on ME oil production.

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    24. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the salient point is that statistically, a citizen of the US has more of a chance of being killed by policeman on US soil than they have of being killed by a terrorist on US soil. Pretty clear comparison of risks, IMO.

    25. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the salient point is that statistically, a citizen of the US has more of a chance of being killed by policeman on US soil than they have of being killed by a terrorist on US soil. Pretty clear comparison of risks, IMO.

      That is still a poor comparison since the vast majority of people killed by policemen on US soil are not innocent bystanders, unlike all the deaths by the terrorists (excluding their own of course). For a fair statistical comparison based on your criteria, you would need to provide the number of completely innocent people killed by police, like how many have died when police have bust into a restaurant and began just shooting everyone, rather than the total number of deaths for any reason. My guess is that is a pretty low number, though not zero.

    26. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, he also invaded Kuwait, with designs on Saudi Arabia, but interestingly, no one mentions that anymore.

      No one mentions that when they complain about the second war in Iraq. He was not in Kuwait at that time. In the first Gulf War, the United States had support of the world, because of the Kuwait invasion. The US was even compensated for the cost. The second Gulf War was vastly different. The US paid for the war and there was very little support. Why? Because Iraq was no longer in Kuwait.

    27. Re:Common pattern by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Not particularly surprising. Anyone who has actually studied recidivism knows that when people do time in prison, it requires a lot of effort on the part of the government to reintegrate them into society, and if that doesn't happen properly, they are much more likely to commit further crimes because they feel that they have no other means to get the things they want. We also have known for a long time that people who feel isolated from society are more likely to get drawn into a terrorist organization. Put these two together, and it should be pretty obvious that the people in western society who are most likely to become terrorists are former convicts.

      This is one of the reasons that people on the left have been begging and screaming for many years, demanding better reintegration programs for former convicts that guarantee them a stable job and help them feel accepted back into society. Those reintegration programs are the weak point in western society, and it seems as though the powers that be like it that way, preferring that people go back to a life of crime so that they can keep them locked up. The terrorists are taking advantage of that, and anyone who didn't see it coming hasn't been paying attention. We have to get recidivism rates down to zero, because ensuring everyone feels accepted is the best tool at our disposal for fighting terrorism.

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    28. Re:Common pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree, we need to stay the course. We've killed tens of thousands of ISIS fighters. We will kill more. We need to isolate them, allow refugees to escape them (thus denying them slaves and taxes), and continue to attack them when they build up a location. ISIS is losing now and making them lose faster is probably not a good ROI.
      Seriously, if they snuck one bad refugee in, that's a minuscule percentage. Shit happens, let's not overreact.

    29. Re:Common pattern by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      So the Euro thing is the sole reason for the invasion of Iraq, is what you're saying?
      Well, how well was the "containment" and no-fly zone thing in the '90s really working? There was the UN sanctions scandal, not to mention that the sanctions themselves led to an incredible amount of anti-US hostility and backlash, claiming the US blocked food and medicine from Iraqis, but which was Saddam's doing, as he was busy building those lush palaces. It was during the '90s that Al Qeada became fully formed (technically it began in 1988), Osama Bin Laden was enraged that Americans were on Saudi soil -the land of Mecca- and his Muhjadeen had been rejected by the King to fight off Iraq. OBL was then exiled from SA and vowed revenge; the rest is modern islamo-terrorist history.
      We might've been better off going into Iraq in the first place and getting the hell out of Saudi Arabia. Both choices are lose/lose though.

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    30. Re:Common pattern by NewYork · · Score: 1

      Muslims didn't kill 65 million people in World_War_I;
      Muslims didn't kill 85 million people in World_War_II;

      The Arabic countries led by the Muslims were the most advanced scientists/engineers in the world, until they let the religious CRAZIES take over.

    31. Re:Common pattern by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      It would appear many of them are actually being radicalized in prison :|

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    32. Re:Common pattern by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      And that was at the behest of the fucking Saudi royal family.

  10. In further investigations by cas2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    police have found that the terrorists breathed air, drank water, and wore clothes in order to carry out their attacks. Police and security agencies have united in calling for these things to be banned immediately.

    1. Re:In further investigations by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      There is a TV programme called Question Time on the BBC this evening at about 10:30, where a panel of politicians and other minor celebrities answer questions put by the audience. Let's see how many politicians use the Paris attacks as an excuse to bring in the Snooper's Charter, and if anyone even mentions that encryption wasn't used.

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  11. Where's the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Police Find Paris Attackers Coordinate Via Unencrypted SMS". And where's the article to support that headline?!

    1. Re:Where's the article by sims+2 · · Score: 4, Informative
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  12. Proper security is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most terrorists are dipshits - petty criminals and the like who've had their impotent anger and rage redirected towards the state and society. I'm sure they do get a lot of security training and would get to practice it a lot more than most ordinary people. But fundamentally they're still idiots who take a lot of risks and they do make mistakes that someone determined may be able to follow.

    And it gets worse after an attack. They have a high expectation that they're going to die or be captured in the attack so they don't think through how they're going to go to ground or escape afterwards and make even more mistakes. I bet as soon as the main suspects were ID'd the police and intelligence services set up immediate phone and SMS monitoring on every single known accomplice, acquaintance, family member, ex girlfriend, imam, and for all the families up and down the streets on which they lived.

  13. emojis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The suspects allegedly communicate through a complex use of emojis. To fight terrorism, prominent websites like Slashdot have dropped Unicode support.

  14. Governments *are the largest terrorist groups* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do more to destroy the privacies, securities, and liberties we all aught to enjoy than they have ever done to secure them. Unfortunately we don't have the things we're told that we have and the masses are too stupid to stand up to the BS. The politicians then get controlled by other wealthier morons. The human race is doomed. We end up having 1 half-intelligent human for every 100,000 idiots.

  15. Call of Duty in game chat by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It really wouldn't be hard to use the in game functions of any military themed shooter game to set up an an attack.

    Essentially, in game people are already talking about shooting people and targets, that even unencrypted it would be painfully difficult to filter through all the chats - supposing you had access to them - to figure out which players were talking about playing the game, and who would be planning something in real life.

    Quite scary

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    1. Re:Call of Duty in game chat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Quite scary

      In what way? Terrorists will always have access to encrypted communications that are difficult to crack. If the terrorists can meet beforehand, then they can use impossible to crack communications. They already use encryption. They already use steganography, and messages within computer games would just be an example of this.

    2. Re:Call of Duty in game chat by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quite scary

      Not really. It's far scarier to consider life in a panopticon where two people couldn't say something privately to eachother without the goverment listening to the conversation.

    3. Re:Call of Duty in game chat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually you are WRONG
      this is what a real in game conversation would look like
      "hey faggots, how about shooting back or something"
      "seriously guys, you are so bad a person could get aids just by looking at you play"
      "whats that retard in the tank fucking doing, get out of the base you stupid wanker"
      "thats great asshole, just shoot the c4 just as i walk by"
      "hey cunt, are you fucking retarded or fucking blind, the guy is right next to you"
      "stop trying to knife people constantly and play the objective, you look like mudslims for fucks sake"

      and these are just in one game, i would say its easy to spot actual players

    4. Re:Call of Duty in game chat by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      >

      Quite scary

      Only if you are a complete moron. How is it any more scary than any other communication that is not being traced?

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    5. Re:Call of Duty in game chat by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      eh. just use skype or whatever. people are already using it to replace teamspeak etc.

      however, the point is, the feds & etc are running a campaign to demonize encryption when it is just most likely that they were using something like whatsapp only for international messaging.

      and you know why? because international sms's COST A FUCKING LOT OF MONEY.

      there's already too much to filter through even if they could read everything. case in point, the mastermind they were already well aware who he was but they did not know where, how or with whom he was communicating and it being encrypted or not was irrelevant.

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  16. Well, if it weren't for snowden... by VValdo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The logic of authoritarians:

    Thanks to Snowden's revelations, terrorists started using unbreakable encryption!!!!!!!

    Right. Except they didn't.

    That was pre-Snowden. Terrorists didn't know about encryption before that.

    Right again. Except they did.

    So, you see-- Snowden has "blood on his hands" for making terrorists aware of encryption, which they knew about for decades, so they could use it, which they didn't. And thank goodness for that, because if they had used encryption, the attacks might have been successful, which they were.

    Got it.

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    1. Re:Well, if it weren't for snowden... by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Snowden is simply today's Emmanuel Goldstein.

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    2. Re:Well, if it weren't for snowden... by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Well said.

      Masterwork Wordsmith +5, IMO :P

    3. Re:Well, if it weren't for snowden... by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they killed the last one, Osama Bin Goldstein, after they realized his ailing health meant that he wouldn't be around to fill the role for much longer.

  17. News is just opinions anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At one time news was factual and verified. But these days anyone can post whatever they want and have very little to back it. Hoping I guess they guessed correctly. If indeed we now know the terrorists only used non encrypted SMS imagine how they now know how to use the proper encrypted tools from now on. Thanks to our wonderful news media pointing it out. The really bad part is that all we ever do is react to a disaster that already happened. We don't learn from the 9-11's of the world. We don't police our boarders we don't profile for fear of offending someone. Islam is NOT a peaceful religion, don't let anyone tell you it is. Much of the Middle East problems stem from religion. The Islamic belief is no exceptions beyond total devotion to Islam. All else is evil and must be eliminated.
    Even the moderates in the Muslim world simply look the other way unless they are specifically attacked. Deep down, they are required to believe what they are taught. This now has spread to the West and if Christians are to survive we must stop it now or become silenced.

    1. Re:News is just opinions anymore by EmeraldBot · · Score: 2

      At one time news was factual and verified. But these days anyone can post whatever they want and have very little to back it. Hoping I guess they guessed correctly. If indeed we now know the terrorists only used non encrypted SMS imagine how they now know how to use the proper encrypted tools from now on. Thanks to our wonderful news media pointing it out. The really bad part is that all we ever do is react to a disaster that already happened. We don't learn from the 9-11's of the world. We don't police our boarders we don't profile for fear of offending someone. Islam is NOT a peaceful religion, don't let anyone tell you it is. Much of the Middle East problems stem from religion. The Islamic belief is no exceptions beyond total devotion to Islam. All else is evil and must be eliminated. Even the moderates in the Muslim world simply look the other way unless they are specifically attacked. Deep down, they are required to believe what they are taught. This now has spread to the West and if Christians are to survive we must stop it now or become silenced.

      News never has been and never will be factial and verified. Have you ever read Revolutionary War articles? Have you seen was Julius Caeser wrote back to Rome? Media has always had a political aspect to it, that's nothing new. Back in your day, there were a fair few terrorists who did all this too, might I point out. And lastly, if that is the kind of government you wish, may I suggest Russia? I think your political philosophy matches much more with theirs than the United States'. Good day to you, sir.

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  18. Wait, who again? by geekmux · · Score: 1

    "...Attackers Coordinate Via Unencrypted SMS"

    You mean the media? Yes, they often attack using SMS as their weapon of choice when blindly and viciously terrorizing truth or due diligence.

    If you're talking about the Paris terrorists, well yeah, I guess they could be stupid enough to do that...or just be attention whores like the media...

  19. Hurry by angelbar · · Score: 1

    Lets make mandatory to encrypt all communications, so only the terrorists will use non-encrypted messages and indentify them fast. what? wait, let me think that one moment more.

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  20. When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems to me that when you're planning to blow yourself up anyway - you're probably not that worried about getting caught after the fact, and there's so much traffic going around that open communications especially if using a simple codewords for obvious trigger phrases (so say "flowers' instead of "bombs" etc...) and very likely the best the intelligence folks will do is read your comms after you've succeeded and have gone to meet your 72 Virgins....

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    1. Re:When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so say "flowers' instead of "bombs" etc...

      So now we have to ban the use of the word "flowers" as well?

    2. Re:When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know....
      "I've got a load of flowers strapped to my chest and I'm ready to blow myself up"

      It doesn't take a genius to work out what that means.

    3. Re:When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only "daffodil", and for good reason.

    4. Re:When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems to me that when you're planning to blow yourself up anyway - you're probably not that worried about getting caught after the fact, and there's so much traffic going around that open communications especially if using a simple codewords for obvious trigger phrases (so say "flowers' instead of "bombs" etc...) and very likely the best the intelligence folks will do is read your comms after you've succeeded and have gone to meet your 72 Virgins....

      Just curious: does it work that way in reverse too? Did the woman (Abaaoud's cousin) who blew herself to eternity go to meet 72 virgin ... men? Accommodating 72 horny guys who have never had sex with a woman before -- if I was a woman, that would be my personal definition of hell.

    5. Re:When you're planning on blowing yourself up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> to meet your 72 Virgins....

      to meet your 72 year old Virgin....

      FTFY

      Something was lost in translation..

  21. Encryption! by dohzer · · Score: 1

    We need to encrypt everything. Leaving SMS encrypted leaves us open to terrorist attacks.
    And we need licencing for SMS use too!

  22. Security through obscurity by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    The best method of encryption is no encryption at all, using word or phrase replacement.

    All the spy measures in the world are pretty useless against people who understand that.

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    1. Re:Security through obscurity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, like when my dealer rings me up to say, "I've got some really great Douwe Egberts for espresso, you should stop by for a cuppa this arvo" but what he means is, "The black hash just came in from Amsterdam, come on over"?

  23. They won't see the next thing coming. by seoras · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This war on encryption and personal privacy can't be won by the ordinary man against governments.
    It's inevitable. They will get their way.
    I take personal comfort in seeing a repeating cycle in history where they can only legislate once the genie is out of the bottle, and they are slow to react.
    A basic lack of understanding of technology, by those in power, and technology's ability to evolve outside of their constraints means that they are really just sowing the seeds for the next big thing after the internet - it's replacement.
    Peer to peer communications, not network based would be my guess.
    How? I dunno, but when forced into a corner we always find a way out.

    1. Re:They won't see the next thing coming. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The ordinary man can have access to good crypto software. There's always going to be people who know what they're doing publishing it as Free/Open Source software. (It can be difficult to figure out who knows what they're doing and who doesn't, of course.)

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  24. Remember "The Wire"? by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the drug dealer started sending MMS images of clocks?

    It seems entirely reasonable that you could plan just about anything with plain text SMS. It wouldn't be hard to talk about whatever it was in plain language substituting normal activities like going shopping or whatever.

    An innocuous code would be impossible to decode if you didn't suspect the people in question. You'd never filter out the 373738483847 other texts that were about mundane activities.

  25. In other news by robiso22 · · Score: 1

    In other news, terrorists have a bunch of new ideas on how to communicate

  26. Banhammer by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    Ban SMS! Terorristz use them!!!1!

    --
    My first program:

    Hell Segmentation fault

    1. Re:Banhammer by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      Hah, can't see that happening, the phone networks still make an absolute fortune off them.

  27. Give me a reason why by Dorianny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They need to explain why the massive global surveillance failed to stop the attacks and the reasons they came up with is Snowden and encryption. This is despite their own reports that showed their massive surveillance to not be effective against terrorism even before Snowden and widespread encryption. Big-Data is great for statistical analysis, if is not very useful for spear-fishing.

    1. Re:Give me a reason why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? That's simple. You need more surveillance, dear citizen.

  28. Why use encryption of you can hide between million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Old fashion operational security is stilll effective.
    Good thing the terrorists operational security was not perfect.

  29. Yes indeed only west coutnry count by aepervius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Or are you saying that only first world, western lives count?"
     
    I am sorry, but when determining the territorial security of country (laws, police intervention) only what happen in that country should count. Citing that some terrorist in some country somewhere should make us drop our law , trample our constitution, and roll over the ground wailing, is stupid. Were you there to claim the genocidial Rwanda event should lead to some police change in the US/France/Whichever ? No ? then ISIL is no different.

    --
    C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
    visit randi.org
  30. I live in France... by Liquid+Len · · Score: 2

    ... and let me tell you that after last Friday, we are now experiencing a period in which the government can decide and impose whatever it damn pleases : massive surveillance, restricted freedom, you name it.... At this stage, I believe people are willing to accept anything in the name of (presumed) safety. At some point, this period will come to an end but until then, I except the law to change a lot, and essentially nobody is going to raise a finger about it....
    Reminds me of the time when I was living in the US, right after 09/11. Sad, really.

    1. Re:I live in France... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Hopefully France won't go full retard and implement their own version of the PATRIOT ACT. Learn form my country's mistakes.

      --
      Time to offend someone
  31. Why encrypt anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why encrypt, when simpler solutions are just as secure?

    Back in WOII, all a German could do was guess when he heard terms like Operation Overlord, Operation Bodyguard, Operation Fortitude -- but their Enigma encryption was broken.

    "The milk has gone rancid" could mean "the bomb is in place" or "I'm out of ammo" just as well as "I'm not going to drink that clotted sh*t".

    1. Re:Why encrypt anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

              With long sobs
              the violin-throbs

                      of autumn wound

              my heart with languorous
              and monotonous sound.

  32. It was all planned in Coney Island by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who has seen Mr. Robot knows this.

  33. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates antivirus that I overturned on false positives (1/8 over time) were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap too) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't in part #3/5... apk

  34. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

    ---

    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

    ---

    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

    ---

    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

    ---

    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened!

    ---

    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself: Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #4/5... apk

  35. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

    ---

    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  36. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

    "the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

    "maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

    "I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    Childish sigs = all you've got!

    "I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    &

    "You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    &

    "I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

    "written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

    You're 30++ & haven't done either!

    Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

    CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    You PROVED I am... apk

    1. Re:Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude .. you need a life..

  37. Politicians are stupid by kheldan · · Score: 1

    why 15 17 7h47 57up1d p0l171c14n5 c4n'7 und3r574nd 7h47 m4k1n6 3ncryp710n 1ll364l, 0r 3v3n ru1n1n6 17'5 u53fuln355 1n 4 fund4m3n74l w4y by r3qu1r1n6 4 'b4ckd00r' 1n70 17 0r h4v1n6 7h3 k3y5 570r3d 50m3wh3r3 7h3y c4n 637 47 7h3m, w0n'7 m4k3 0n3 fuck1n6 b17 0f d1ff3r3nc3? 7h3 w4y 7h15 c0mm3n7 15 '3nc0d3d' 15 4 pr1m3 3x4mpl3 0f 7h47: 17'5 ju57 l337-5p34k, wh1ch h45 b33n 4r0und f0r 4635 n0w, 4nd c4n m0rph m0r3 0r l355 47-w1ll 70 637 4r0und w0rdf1l73r5 0r 4ny0n3'5 b451c und3r574nd1n6. 45 4n 3x4mpl3 0f wh47 73rr0r1575 4nd 07h3r cr1m1n4l5 m16h7 d0 70 3v4d3 d373c710n 17'5 pr377y bl474n7 4nd b451c, bu7 1 7h1nk 17 1llu57r4735 my p01n7 f41rly w3ll: ju57 l1k3 k1d5 wh0 w4n73d 70 637 4r0und w0rdf1l73r5 0n f0rum 51735 4nd 1n 64m3 ch475, r4d1c4l 3x7r3m1575 w1ll ju57 0bfu5c473 7h31r m3554635 1n w4y5 7h47 4r3n'7 r34d1ly d373c74bl3. h3ll, p30pl3 h4v3 b33n c0mmun1c471n6 1n c0d3 0f 0n3 50r7 0r 4n07h3r f0r c3n7ur135, wh47 m4k35 7h3m 7h1nk 7h47 fuck1n6 up 3ncryp710n, wh1ch hur75 3v3ry0n3, 15 601n6 70 m4k3 4 60d5-b3-d4mn3d b17 0f d1ff3r3nc3? 1d1075.

    ..and if you can't manage to decode that in a few minutes or less, then you might have a bright future as a politician.

    --
    Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
  38. Terrorists are Criminals by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Like criminals they are MOSTLY stupid and uneducated. Both groups for the most part lack many of the basic resources required to improve upon their actions, be it infrastructure, money, contacts, technology, etc...

    That is why you hear of stories of bank robbers taking cabs home and the like.

    That is not to say that smarter craftier ones don't exist, only that the dumb ones far outnumber them. I have no doubt, the easiest way to catch the smart ones, are not by trying to unravel their master plan, but rather by simply catching the dumb ones that are associated with them. I would bet the Terrorist HR department takes pretty much anyone that shows up.

    So yeah, don't bother messing around with encryption, it simply isn't worth the time and effort (regardless of the other larger civil implications).

    Not to start up the whole Refugee debate, but this is also something I thought about in this context. First countries should accept them, because in doing so is thwarting terrorist efforts. Preventing people from fleeing them, seems counter productive. Secondly, and perhaps just as importantly,of those that are educated and helping the terrorist cause, I would bet a significant portion of them are not fanatics but rather coerced into roles because of threats to their families should they not cooperate. Should those families be safely relocated, that leverage is removed, perhaps prompting desertion, and making it harder for HR to enlist really useful people, having to depend on more dummies, who make more mistakes, which make them less effective and more easily caught, etc...

  39. It's not tyrany, it's totalitarianism by qaz123 · · Score: 1

    Totalitarianism is a concept in which the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever possible.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  40. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + how to migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  41. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates antivirus that I overturned on false positives (1/8 over time) were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap too) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't in part #3/5... apk

  42. Legal iPhone Encryption Backdoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it is OK to mention this at it is no secret... it's a public company. Google the name Drive Savers. You will see at least one if not several American companies that have deals with manufacturers so that they can take a broken phone's hard drive, decrypt it, and get your pictures and videos restored.

    That equates to built in encryption on phones is not a problem for our American government already. France can just ask America to break encryption on suspected terrorist stuff. They can also ship the phone to one of these data restore companies.

  43. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

    ---

    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

    ---

    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

    ---

    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

    ---

    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened!

    ---

    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself: Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #4/5... apk

  44. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

    ---

    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  45. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + how to migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  46. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates antivirus that I overturned on false positives (1/8 over time) were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap too) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't in part #3/5... apk

  47. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

    ---

    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

    ---

    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

    ---

    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

    ---

    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened!

    ---

    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself: Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #4/5... apk

  48. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

    ---

    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  49. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

    "the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

    "maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

    "I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    Childish sigs = all you've got!

    "I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    &

    "You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    &

    "I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

    "written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

    You're 30++ & haven't done either!

    Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

    CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    You PROVED I am... apk

  50. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + how to migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  51. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates antivirus that I overturned on false positives (1/8 over time) were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap too) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't in part #3/5... apk

  52. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

    ---

    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

    ---

    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

    ---

    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

    ---

    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened!

    ---

    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself: Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #4/5... apk

  53. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

    ---

    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  54. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

    "the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

    "maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

    "I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    Childish sigs = all you've got!

    "I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    &

    "You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    &

    "I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

    "written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

    You're 30++ & haven't done either!

    Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

    CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    You PROVED I am... apk

  55. Good Morning Ya'll by ememisya · · Score: 1

    Hi! Good morning, welcome to real life where sith happens despite the government knowing everything about you. Can we go back to some of those outdated constitutional protections now? Maybe? Okay, I'll just wait and be optimistic either way, hoping to read more good news on here :)

  56. And yet they could not stop it by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    So how is encryption a problem when they can't even stop crimes when it's not being used?

  57. Con-man versus Fool by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool;
    BAN all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

  58. Coren22 you retard: Why're you hiding this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + how to migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ... apk

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk