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Companies Want To Insert Ads Into Unicode (thenextweb.com)
AmiMoJo writes: Food company Nestle has started a petition to get a KitKat emoji into the Unicode standard. They aren't alone, Taco Bell wants a taco emoji added, and Durex suggested adding a condom. While the latter two are at least generic, KitKat is a trademark of Nestle and the "break" image a key part of their marketing. Next year Unicode will include a faceplam emoji (U+1F926) for occasions such as this.
Just assign the images, trademarks and logos over to the public domain and we are done.
I don't see a problem with having yet another useless character that few people will ever use. However, the use of a grassroots petitioning service like change.org to advance a corporate agenda is much more troubling and a very cynical move by (well-known evildoers) Nestle.
The additional code to load them for display on the web is just more bloat on the page.
U+1F926
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
If they do, then assign them at code points starting: U+110000. That will teach them to keep marketing out of international standards.
There already is a taco emoji. It's in Unicode 8.0.
This is pure rubbish. We dont need more crap gunking things up. Make advertising illegal.
Can someone explain me why emojis are in Unicode at all?
This is why I hate Emojis.
Seriously, they were a bad idea to begin with. Then the politically correct nazis started getting upset about them. And now this.
None of this should be in Unicode. If you want stupid little graphics in your text, then use stupid little graphics.
That's why U+1F36B is a generic chocolate bar rather than a HERSHEY'S® bar.
The additional code to load them for display on the web
...is no more than the existing code to display any other glyph in a font. But in any case, perhaps U+1F595 Reversed Hand With Middle Finger Extended might be more to your liking.
I do wonder if they can get a Picard specific facepalm one...
Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This Is Such A Good Idea!! I Really Mean It!! Maybe I Shouldn't Have Had 5 Pints Of Espresso!!
In fact, why don't we petition for the mandatory includion of marketing oriented microcode on all CPUs? This is what we all need!!
Netcraft has confirmed: Unicode is dying
So what, will nestle bill you every time you use the kitkat emoji in a text?
Whoops, looks like this message already cost me 10 cents.
Have you ever fallen asleep at the keybhanusdiog?
A bar and triangle seems to be pretty universally understood to mean "play/pause", for example.
Not among certain members of my family. One keeps asking me "Why doesn't it just say 'Play'?" when she can't figure out which button to push. When I try to explain the reason behind internationalized pictographs by asking "It's made in China. Would you prefer that it said 'Play' in Chinese?", it still doesn't help.
Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"
Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I'd like both a condom and a taco emoji.
They're both useful in the same sentance about a booty call even.
What I really want though is a bat, there's two fucking rabbits, but no bat.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
What's the Unicode for "tinfoil hat"?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
i have a nokia 3310, i don't mind what goes into unicode, because every SMS where people send me unicode smileys ends up as little rectangles.
What I really want though is a bat, there's two fucking rabbits, but no bat.
Unicode has a bat, but it has a ball.
Emojis are great for very young kids who either cannot write, or are too embarrassed to write out certain words in full. So I agree that there's no need for a unicode condom.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Bill Hicks on Marketing
Standard SMTP headers!
From: fred@fredco.com
To: employee@fredco.com
Enjoy-A-Coke-While-Discussing: Fred's meeting memo
HTTP status codes!
404 Not Found - Have a Snickers instead!
Errno descriptions!
Program terminated (errno 31 Wonderful Flavors at Baskin Robbins!)
Koans and fables for the software engineer
I think if Nestle is willing to make KitKat a public domain/generic word rather than their own trademarked brand, then I think it could be considered.
Otherwise... no.
Log in or piss off.
So if KitKat and Durex get their own emojis, then I can use those emojis any way I choose and without licensing or trademark considerations?
Because that's what happens when you put it into the standard code pages.
So I can put (KitKat)(Condoms)(Donkey)(TacoBell)(IceCream)(PartyHat)(Cigarette) ... and KitKat and Taco Bell have NO legal right to say anything about how I use that image, right?
That will be awesome, and I'm sure the marketing clowns will love what happens when they make their trademark part of a standard code set. Because if you make it part of my standard character set, you turn your trademark into something which anybody can use.
What you can't do is turn your trademark into a standard part of what is in Unicode and then demand I have restrictions on how I use that trademark.
So either they are idiots who plan on diluting their trademark. Or they are idiots who think they can put their trademark into a standard character set and have no control over how it is used.
We should NOT be putting corporate defined images into Unicode unless there is an understanding that what people then DO with those things is no longer under any control by the people who asked for it to be there.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
There's already an emoji for "You are all cows" (U+1F42E Cow Face). There's even one for "App appers app apps with apps" (U+1F4F2 Mobile Phone With Rightwards Arrow at Left). And there are plenty of faces for the integrated face system. But what would the hosts file emoji look like?
"Corporations still attempting to literally destroy everything."
They will then be able to sue people and companies who use "their" emoji to describe products other than the trademarked one.
"In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate".
Satan? Don't denigrate my religion by confusing it with theirs.
Adding emoji to Unicode makes about as much sense as adding new letters to the alphabet, and nobody seems to feel any great need to do that.
Except when a language has more than 26 sounds. This is how Icelandic gets the thorn and edh, some African languages get a stretched-out s whose capital looks like Greek sigma, German gets a ligature of stretched out s and s, Mbembe gets a fish-shaped round A, Nigerian languages get letters with hooks and a turned E, Chipewyan gets capital and lowercase glottal stops, and more.
Is there Unicode characters for the FSM and IPU? If not, that's just religious discrimination!
Nestle's just laying the foundation to claiming ownership of the water emoji, because they own all the water!
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Prisencolinensinainciusol. Ol Rait!
Subject line says it all.
Starships were meant to fly, Hands up and touch the sky - Nicky Minaj
Yeah man. I mean what kind of sicko thinks that it is normal to discuss sex. It's so ... unnatural!
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Given that there are twelve different crosses, they can surely find room for one colander, praise his noodly appendage!
Granted, most are appropriately in the dingbats section according to wikipedia.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I'd be willing to bet you they would look exactly the same. Think about it. No history class is going to go into such fine detail that it discusses this particular "event", regardless of the outcome. You might see it mentioned in a computer class, but certainly not in history class.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Yes - Chrisq owes Satanists an aplology for comparing Satan to allah. Allah is much worse, and many more people kill in his name.
U+1F35D Spaghetti and U+1F984 Unicorn Face exist.
Unicode has U+1F467 Girl and U+1F419 Octopus. If this were SoylentNews, I could show them inline, but Slashdot uses a code point whitelist because of past abuses of bidirectional control characters.
Allah is the Abrahamic "God" if you didn't know in case you were pretending Christianity is better than Islam in any way.
If you're combining God of Abraham as viewed by Christians and the God of Abraham as viewed by Muslims, it's even easier to make the case that more people have killed in the name of that God than of Satan.
But now they have different characters for different complexions of emojis - something that should be a font, rather than a character change.
That'd be like needing a separate font for à, á, â, and ä. Think of color of emojis as analogous to a diacritic.
I wish I had some mod points to mod down your filthy little post.
You are a complete frigging moron, and a disgrace to the human race.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Just wait until pharma company disclaimers and car rental contracts are given single Unicode characters of their own.
Unicode was and is used to support foreign characters. Emojis are a blatant abuse of unicode, I don't know a single use of emoticons besides general spam. On a sidenote, I'm tired of people abusing unicode characters to represent their name in some untypeable mess, like "".
I'm with the AC there, but I would suggest a foaming at the mouth raving lunatic.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
The next new Unicode symbol will be a picture of a water skier jumping over a shark. There will be a few more after that, but nobody will be paying attention any more.
The other day I was wikibinging and ended up in an article about the history of the jet bridge -- and that let to another piece on how someone either at HSBC or at their agency "discovered" or "realized" that jet bridges were an untapped source of revenue.
I would've been happy with that space being left untapped. Now there's ads glaring at you inside the jet bridge - and on the exteriors, too -- visible from the terminal windows.
No space is safe. Already see so many private cars either wearing badly-aligned magnetic signs, or full vinyl wraps.
No space is safe. No property is safe.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
Can we just give up on the whole letters and numbers thing and go back to hieroglyphics?
I, for one, look forward to another thousand years of archeologists trying to figure out what was being written.
But à, á, â, and ä are different characters altogether
But can be represented using the code point for 'a' followed by the code point for a diacritic. True, Unicode includes redundant precomposed code points for many accented Latin letters and for Korean hangul, but it's trying to represent older encodings that likewise had precomposed code points. With emoji, there are no such older encodings, so the consortium can save code points by encoding them decomposed. Likewise with accented Latin letters that do not appear in a legacy encoding.
There is no reason for a particular emoticon to eat up more space in the Unicode space.
Five code points for skin colors aren't significant "more space". Imagine if all Latin letters with diacritics had to be precomposed, not just the ones in legacy encodings. That would take more space. Decomposed characters take O(n + m) code points; precomposed ones take O(nm) code points, which is much bigger.
I propose an ad-blocker emoji.
Requiem for the American Dream
Dominoes now allows you to order pizza by texting them a pizza emoji; presumably other delivery services would like to get in on the action. (Sounds to me like this would require setting up a lot of information associated with your phone number ahead of time for it to work, and useless for any company that doesn't do delivery or internet orders)
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Give proprietary icons codes above 2^24 and I'm ok with that. Of course, no fonts will implement them, but that's ok with me too.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
You are all U+1F42E. U+1F42E say Mooo. Mooo! Mooo! Mooo U+1F42E s Mooo! Mooo say the U+1F42E. YOU ADDED U+1F42E !!!
Well, then, we obviously need to add U+DEADBEEF to Unicode, variously rendered as a diagram of the cuts of beef, or as a side of beef.
If the Taco character got in on the basis of a mere 32,000 votes how many "No" votes could get mustered up to defeat Nestle's Break character?
... so the Unicode consortium should introduce the Five Mullah Facepalm emoji in response.
Nestle is pushing for a KitKat bar emoji?
Wouldn't that automagically make the mark 'generic', thereby voiding their dearly protected status?
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Non-sequitur: Didn't the ancient Egyptians invent emojis?
Yuck. So you have to worry about the waste, cleaning up or smearing your keyboard. And with sticky chocolaty crap don't forget to brush your teeth.
Why not eat bread and peanut butter?, for example.
If you're over 25 and still eating candy bars, you have failed as a human being. Also there is U+1F36B already.
Emoji already exists: ðYOE®
I signed the petition with the following comment:
I think any symbol adopted as a Unicode standard will dilute any trademark held on the symbol to the point where the trademark is no longer valid.
Feel free to pile on...
An engineer who ran for Congress. http://herbrobinson.us
Would be fun if emoji became the new Esperanto. ./rs most frequently used emojis would be the symbol for snark, and the symbols for the logical fallacies. Straw man would be easy to design, but the others?
I want to implement an emoji that will suggest huge discounts - like 90% off - for me to every vendor that gets one!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.