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Report Claims Microsoft Beat Apple in Online Tablet Sales for October (winbeta.org)
Eloking writes: Apple's iPad tablet ushered in the modern tablet era when it was introduced in 2010, and it's dominated tablet sales ever since. iPad sales have stagnated recently, but nevertheless Apple has maintained its lead in overall tablet market share. WinBeta received an early version of an upcoming report, '1010data Facts for Ecom Insights, January 2014 – October 2015' by the 101data Ecom Insights Panel, however, that indicates all of that might be changing as Microsoft assumes the mantle of best-selling tablet maker in terms of online sales in October.
At one point, everyone who wanted an iPad and is able to afford one will already have done so. After that, these people will only buy a new one to upgrade once in a while.
Of course on slashdot it is a failure and no one is buying them. But in the real world they ate the number 2 generator of revenue for Microsoft and can run office and be managed via active directory for IT departments making them popular. The screen is Apple quality hardware
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I recall reading about when Pepsi overtook Coke. Everyone rejoiced. However, in actual fact, Coke still outsold Pepsi by a wide margin; the overtaking was in grocery store sales which they had managed to do by making the six-pack into an 8-pack for the same price and then measuring by total volume.
And here we have a report that says MS outsold Apple in *online sales*. Hmmm. I suspect that Apple sells the majority, if not the vast majority, of their sales through retail chains. So when I read:
"The report did not take in account customers who purchased their tablets in brick-and-mortar stores, such as Apple’s retail stores or Best Buy."
Then basically I think this is even less of a mini-victory than Fortune posits. Pepsi anyone?
I have a Surface pro... and I can not get myself to buy another. The huge problems with the Surface pro and how microsoft has told me "sucks to be you, reinstall the OS" means I have zero interest in walking down their road again. Not as long as they use low grade dog food chips like Marvell for their wireless networking.
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The summary says "online sales" which means that we are probably NOT talking about "shipped" rather than "sold" numbers. However, these are numbers for October, which is all before the new iPads shipped (including the iPad Pro) so we are probably seeing some depression of iPad sales that will catch up in the November numbers (or not: if MS can maintain these sales numbers in November and December, then this would be quite interesting).
just a ghost in the machine.
Tablets are already dying off, the iPad sales plateau is proof of that.
Why tablets are dying is a more interesting question. Yes, larger phones are intruding on the form factor, but more importantly the general tablet hype has faded away and people have realized that a tablet is not a replacement for a laptop. Vendors love tablets because they're essentially a reset button for software ecosystems: where they couldn't have a walled garden before, now they can.
Touch is a regression in human interface design, and deep down every engineer knows it. To correct that, now we have tablets with keyboards and/or stylii. Jobs swore both of those things would never happen. But I think the reason why iOS gained cut+paste so late was because the only workable soluitons weren't as elegant as he wanted, and he was forced to relent and give the users a necessarily shitty workflow.
Tablets occupy a very narrow market segment that, outside of vertical solutions for business, was doomed from the beginning. Either they'll get replaced by phablets or they'll evolve into netbooks.
Tablets are already dying off, the iPad sales plateau is proof of that.
Why tablets are dying is a more interesting question.
Tablets aren't dying. Tablet sales are falling off because the people willing to buy one now have one. Tablets will stick around for the foreseeable future.
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Tablets are already dying off, the iPad sales plateau is proof of that. Why tablets are dying is a more interesting question.
Tablets aren't dying. Tablet sales are falling off because the people willing to buy one now have one. Tablets will stick around for the foreseeable future.
It's 1995 all over again. Apple target home users, who have a taste for new shiney and lead the sales curve, but don't have the appetite to continually upgrade or replace. Microsft target business users who are slower off the mark, but throw a lot more money around and do it on a regular cycle, for a lot longer periods.
One month does not make a trend. If Microsoft can string multiple sequential months together, than this will be news. Until then, it only means that in this particular month, more Microsoft tablets were sold. Interesting, but nothing more than that.
Go somewhere you can compare the Apple pen to Samsung's pen. The Samsung one is far, far ahead in terms of latency and accuracy.
Did you mean the Microsoft stylus? Because everywhere I've read a review comparing the Apple Pencil to other current styluses, the Pencil was said to be far better... even over the Samsung.
I'll get the Pencil in a few days so I'll be able to see for myself, but everyone I've talked to who has used one said zero lag (latency) and pretty much perfect accuracy.
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And Microsoft will continue to dominate through the Christmas holiday. How do I know? I went into the Apple Store to buy an iPad Pro. ::Pulls out wallet:: "Please add a Pencil to the order." ::Puts wallet away:: ::Leaves store:: ::Typing this on my Surface Pro 4 and loving it!::
Sales person: "Yes sir! We have them in stock!"
Me:
Genius: "We'll ship a Pencil to you in 5-6 weeks"
Me:
(Sometime later)
Me:
Yeah, about lambasting things that its competitors are doing, there was a pretty crazy instance.
It was during the switch to Intel CPUs. They were selling for a while both their older Power PC based line and their new Intel inside line, so they had, at the same time on their website for several months, both pages dedicated to proving how much faster the Power PCs were compared to the Pentium, and another set of pages at a different part of the site showing how much FASTER the Pentium was compared to the Power PC. They were even using the same benchmarks sometimes (with some fudging about of course, like enabling/disabling AltiVec to suit the desired result etc).
It was so ridiculous, but it was even more ridiculous that nobody was really calling them on it. They claimed both sides of the coin with a straight face and it seems that most were drinking the kool-aid.
To top it off, at that time (before the Intel Core 2), it is most likely that AMD had the fastest CPU, so both campaigns were BS...
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Like skin tight jeans, beards and huge cover-half-your-face glasses, the iPads dominance in tablets will pass.
With it's atrocious interface and sky high price, the iPad is akin to the early days of paying for a bottle of water...
Let the real tablets take their place at the table: Google, Samsung and Microsoft
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