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The Pirate Bay Now Let You Stream Movies and TV, Not Just Download

An anonymous reader writes: On Tuesday, a new simple solution for streaming torrents directly in your browser showed up on the Web. By Friday, infamous torrent site The Pirate Bay had already adopted it. The Pirate Bay now features "Stream It!" links next to all its video torrents. As a result, you can play movies, TV shows, and any other video content directly in the same window you use to browse the torrent site.

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  1. Well then... by dejitaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pirate bay just raised the bar... I can't wait to see the media companies and governments reaction. Guess I should grab some popcorn, this is going to be entertaining... in both ways.

    1. Re:Well then... by Fwipp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A lot of people do have good internet, and streaming is all about removing that barrier between "Hey, let's watch X" and actually watching it.

      If you need to download it first, you're waiting for a half hour or more to get a good copy. Streaming, it might be rabbit-ear quality, but at least you get start to watching it immediately.

      (Time & quality figures are obviously subject to change based on the streaming/download service and your bandwidth).

    2. Re: Well then... by Lynchenstein · · Score: 1

      Do you mean it's "time" for "popcorn"?

    3. Re:Well then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > A lot of people do have good internet...

      Not really. I live in Seattle, probably the second biggest tech hub in the world, and I don't know anyone with a connection fast enough to watch Netflix. With BitTorrent, I can download a couple of movies a week to watch.

    4. Re: Well then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why was this voted down? I work at Microsoft with her husband Vivek, and they hate the Internet. Also, my daughter was one of her students at SCCC where she ranted constantly against the Internet.

    5. Re:Well then... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      I work in Seattle, and live in a semi-rural area 40 miles away. I regularly stream Netflix, Hulu, and HBO Go at home over my Comcast internet connection without issue.

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    6. Re:Well then... by Fwipp · · Score: 1

      Cool, I live in Seattle too, and I get about 75Mbps up & down (measured), and could get gigabit for like $20 more.

    7. Re: Well then... by Fwipp · · Score: 2

      GP asked "who wants to stream media?" There are plenty of people for whom streaming is a very good option.

      I'm not saying "Fuck you; you dialup clods" - just explaining why streaming works for me.

    8. Re:Well then... by mjm1231 · · Score: 1

      Honest question -- who wants to stream media?? Why?

      Probably nobody at all. That'd explain why Netflix is such a dismal failure.

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    9. Re:Well then... by dissy · · Score: 1

      Honest question -- who wants to stream media?? Why?

      I stream all of my porn because downloading it is too much of a commitment that I'm just not ready for.

    10. Re:Well then... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      If you need to download it first, you're waiting for a half hour or more to get a good copy.

      You might be waiting half an hour--for me it's usually more like 5 minutes.

      You might think streaming is a good solution for your shitty Internet, but it's really not.

      The people who actually want streaming are the media cartels, so they can keep you from having a copy so they can charge you rent forever and ever, amen.

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    11. Re:Well then... by stoolpigeon · · Score: 2

      Most of the rest of the developed world and a decent chunk of the less developed world have better, cheaper broadband than the US. So actually a lot of people do have great internet. You just happen to live in a country that is unwilling to catch up to the rest of the world in that regard.

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    12. Re: Well then... by johanw · · Score: 1

      So is that is the reason only socialists in the US were angry at Snowden and Assange, and the ultra-right wing applauded their actions?

    13. Re: Well then... by mh1997 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not saying "Fuck you; you dialup clods" - just explaining why streaming works for me.

      I do: fuck you, you dialup clods. This is the 21st Century: you have no right to complain and want to hold the rest of us back because you're a rural bunch of no-monied crap-o-rama shitfolks. We want to move forwards: progress for the most people and for the worthy ones. You don't like it? Choke on a shovel and die in a manure fire.

      Fuck you, you city dwelling bitch. I live in a very rural area of Indiana and have gigabit fiber.

    14. Re: Well then... by corychristison · · Score: 1

      Half hour or more?

      You poor, poor Americans and your shitty internet infrastructure.

      My 100Mbps fibre connection will dowload a 1200MB movie in ~3 minutes. Sometimes faster*. I just use that time to make some popcorn, mix up a drink, or go take a piss.

      * 1200MB / 6MB per sec = 3.3333333 minutes. I can easily reach speeds of 11MB per sec, depending on if the source can keep up

    15. Re:Well then... by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I'd be more likely to pay for a service that can pre-load things for future use.

      Couchpotato, Sickrage, Deluge, Plex Media Server.

      You don't need usenet for these, by the way, it's all torrent driven. And if you get on private trackers (where you'll see FAST torrent downloads) then you'll want to swap deluge with rtorrent, because deluge kind of chokes when you have over two thousand torrents seeding at once.

      Or alternatively, buy a seedbox that provides all of these services pre-configured and even troubleshoots it for you (several exist, such as feral hosting.) I personally don't like seedboxes though because I have 12TB of local storage and a gigabit pipe at my house, and a typical seedbox to match the my local capabilities would probably cost somewhere close to $100 a month.

    16. Re:Well then... by whopub · · Score: 1

      Find an HD version on youtube. Download it instead of streaming it. It takes about the same time to download as it would take to stream but, when you do get to watch it, it won't freeze randomly. Same thing with Vimeo (which seems a bit slower around here). Then either delete it or keep it for personal viewing. As for how to download it, well, there are ways. But the point is, you don't have to look for alternative sources, just figure out how to make the most out of the obvious ones, since they're not working as they're supposed too in your case.

    17. Re:Well then... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      At home I do not have good internet

      3rd world problem? A lot of the world (an significant market) do have a good internet connection, and to stream torrents you don't need something amazing. If you have a 1.5GB, 90min movie you only have to be able to download at 270kB/s to be able to stream it problem free which is achievable on even crappy ADSL connections. It's achievable even when few people are seeding. And based on my experience it's even achievable on a nasty hotel connection.

    18. Re:Well then... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I live in Seattle, probably the second biggest tech hub in the world, and I don't know anyone with a connection fast enough to watch Netflix

      Really? You live in seattle and don't know people who have ADSL? I mean ADSL, not ADSL2, not ADSL2+, not VDSL, not some form of cable, but literally the next best thing after dialup modem.

      It doesn't take much to stream netflix. An ADSL2+ connection balls out can get you 4k streaming.

    19. Re: Well then... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Even outside the USA, in deepest darkest bumfuskistan, there are places where the _fastest_ you can get is 2MB/s for $100/month - which is 5 times the average monthly wage in the parts I'm thinking of, so only normally found on business premises. That bandwidth goes to shit when you have a couple of office lan boxes trying to run windows updates.

      Everyone else uses tethered data-over-mobile at 0.5c/Mb and that adds up pretty bloody fast when windows is trying to download win10 no matter how much you tell it not to do that.

      Not theoretical. I've just come back from a country that's exactly like that - and Netflix have set up local shop there. How they expect to sell anything is a good question. Nobody torrents. It's just too expensive.

    20. Re:Well then... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      You don't need usenet for these, by the way, it's all torrent driven.

      Usenet tends to be faster, however. Torrent download speeds are highly variable: fairly quick for popular files that everyone else is downloading at the same time, not so much for other files. I've had to leave many a torrent running for days or even weeks for it to complete. SABnzbd, OTOH, will usually pull anything that hasn't expired at 5.5-6 MB/s (bytes, not bits) over my connection, which is pretty much as fast as the connection supports.

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    21. Re: Well then... by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      Out of interest, which deepest darkest bumfuskistan specifically were you in?

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    22. Re: Well then... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Myanmar - The situation described is what you find in Yangon, Napidaw and Mandalay.
      Once you get outside the 2 largest cities & the capital, connectivity is even worse.

    23. Re: Well then... by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. Yeah, that'll happen with nascent markets in countries which have barely opened up to the outside world.

      Other than that, how'd you like it?

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  2. Great way to get sued! by BenJeremy · · Score: 2

    Now outfits like Rightscorp have a larger number of targets of people dumb enough to torrent without a proxy or VPN to sue.

    1. Re:Great way to get sued! by dejitaru · · Score: 1

      but can you be sued just for "visiting" a website?

    2. Re:Great way to get sued! by BenJeremy · · Score: 2

      Well, it's possible, in certain countries, you might get banned or worse...

      Of course, nobody has gotten sued for visiting The Pirate Bay, but if you can stream through your browser, you can bet your IP will be hanging out in the breeze to be picked up by outfits like Rightscorp to log and send through their subpoena mills.

      While I'm bitching here on Slashdot... can anybody give me a reasonable explanation why Linux torrent clients had to lose their ability to use proxies? Yeah, I understand the libraries they used removed the functionality - WTF did the library maintainers remove the capability? I also realize the primary reason for proxies, but there are more than a few legitimate reasons for proxies, too.

    3. Re: Great way to get sued! by corychristison · · Score: 1

      Anyone on Linux knows how to set up a VPN.

      Also anyone on Linux knows how to set up a seed box.

      Why proxy when there are far better alternatives?

    4. Re:Great way to get sued! by penguinoid · · Score: 1, Funny

      if you can stream through your browser, you can bet your IP will be hanging out in the breeze to be picked up by outfits like Rightscorp

      Typical. You have no problem taking their IP, but you don't want them to have your IP.

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    5. Re:Great way to get sued! by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 1

      you likely aren't visiting a website. The code running in your browser is basically a torrent so you're sharing that video while watching it...and open for legal issues unless protected appropriately. Which most people won't be.

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    6. Re:Great way to get sued! by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 1

      It's neither intellectual, nor property. linky

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    7. Re: Great way to get sued! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      The argument could be made that the website was a pop-under and shared silently entire torrents. Loading a torrent is willful, you have to click and download and click again and have programs installed. Now, anyone with JavaScript enabled can be a torrent hoster or Tor exit node, *why yes your honor, anyone visiting these porn sites is being sued*

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    8. Re: Great way to get sued! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that argument will work considering that the user still has to click to play. If I read the summary properly, it's not autoplaying or the likes. You must initiate that. So, I'd not try that argument in court but your lawyer will help you out if you face that problem.

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    9. Re: Great way to get sued! by alantus · · Score: 1

      What if you don't want to route ALL your traffic through the VPN? A proxy gives you that kind of flexibility.

    10. Re: Great way to get sued! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      In this instance but how many times don't ads start autoplaying? It's a code change at best.. If I want, I could buy ad space with a vendor that allows JS and have CNN displaying Disney toons using torrents.

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    11. Re: Great way to get sued! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      True but I believe(d) you were referencing this specific instance which is not, in fact, automatic. As viewing also enables torrenting, I imagine some folks would be right pissed if it were done without user interaction but that too isn't really germane to the topic. :/ However, if you're talking about a hypothetical that is not this particular instance then it might be a valid defense. I'm not sure how well a judge would take it considering that such would be a civil offense and the burden of proof for a civil offense is much lower than that for a criminal offense. (Civil offenses need only be proven that you "more likely than not" committed the offense, very unlike criminal matters where they must prove "beyond all reasonable doubt.")

      Seeing as I'm off-topic... With some work and dedication, this could lead to good things - maybe. Instead of using YouTube to host your video, you can use torrents. Though it might be good if something like a seed box were maintained in an effort to prevent/reduce what I believe they're calling "link rot." Coupled with, maybe, having an /option/ to keep files, in part or in whole, on disparate systems by means of a browser addition would work though I imagine there's a limit to how much space people would offer for such a task. Basically, "You watched it, now share it." At least sharing it for a set period of time might work? But, as fewer people watch and the unpopular videos having few at all would probably limit the functionality. On the other hand, it might be nice as an option.

      Either way, I've yet to try this. I should shuffle over and see if they've anything of value to watch. I can't say that I've used TPB much in ages. If I do torrent, it's usually via Kick Ass Torrents. Normally, I don't torrent anything other than varied Linux distros - and I torrent a whole lot of those even if I do not intend to use them. I am, however, a fan of documentaries. So, I'll meander over and see. Maybe...

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  3. Re:I stole this comment by JeffreyBPetersen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank you for sharing.

  4. Arms Race by JeffreyBPetersen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's only a matter of time until someone builds an anonymization layer for this that sees mass adoption.

    1. Re:Arms Race by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Can you build it?

  5. Re:Too Bad by Holi · · Score: 2

    There is nothing worthwhile except South Park? You have interesting tastes my friend.

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  6. Malware by Xicor · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I checked out the new torrent time thing. It is definitely malware. It sets up a windows service and turns itself on. While it is running, your computer won't sleep because it sets a 30 second wake timer.

    1. Re:Malware by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      Prolly just a tracker for the FBI and gang. Pretty sure TPB has been compromised for a while now. Besides, you can get that feature if you use a proper torrent client. DuckDuckGo it.

    2. Re:Malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are you fond of your computer entering sleep mode while you watch videos? no? That is why it's there. Every media player has the same feature.

    3. Re: Malware by Xicor · · Score: 1

      No, but even after you close your browser, not just the page, it is still going.

    4. Re:Malware by Xicor · · Score: 1

      and even if you kill the process, it turns itself back on.

  7. Re:Too Bad by dejitaru · · Score: 1

    well, you can't drink the water out of the ocean... No not sure what good it is stealing it.

  8. Re:Too Bad by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    I watch some NBA/NFL and the rest is on the Smithsonian channel. The last really good movie I watched was A Clockwork Orange about 30 years ago.

  9. Re:Too Bad by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    Whoosh!

  10. Re: hollywood should welcome this by corychristison · · Score: 1

    It seeds while streaming...

  11. artists and creators, express more with less by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    it is time we alter the perception of artists and creators of art and entertainment. less as celebrities and stars who needs to live a larger than life, and more as individuals who express themselves and connect with rest better than most of us.
    with effective disregard of copyright laws ( in spite of moronic attempts to expand and extend them on the part of establishment), and balkanization of what were called markets or audience according to niche tastes, they will get paid less as time goes on. they will have to live like rest of us.
    whatever influence and power they will have, will be a purely a function of their effectiveness in expression and connecting with others, not on their hyped success or antics.

    all in all this is a good thing imo, and takes us back to pre 19th century attitudes

  12. Re:Let vs Lets by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    You blame timothy
    I blame our corporate overlords

    I also blame whatever CMS /. currently uses for not having spelling and grammar checks.
    Firefox/IE/Edge/Chrome does a better job than whatever /. is using.

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  13. Re:Too Bad by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 1

    I download movies but watch *maybe* 1 every 3 months if that. Went to see my first movie in the theater in well over ten years for the latest Star Wars. Fully reinforced the concept that I am NOT willing to pay for that experience. Fucking 45 minutes of trailers. And for 3 people with a drink and 1 popcorn it was about 50 bucks.

    Just wow.

    Will happily pay (and do) for Netflix. The MPAA needs to get ALL it's shit on there and they'll get paid a reasonable amount of payment. And reasonable is determined by the customer, not the provider.

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  14. Re:Let vs Lets by fnj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pirate Bay Now Let[sic] you stream...[deranged insults over perfectly good English]

    "Organization do" (singular) is proper British usage and is dominant in most English speaking locales. "Organization does" (singular) is Americanized pidgin. Get some elementary knowledge, stop the uninformed insults, and lose the provincial attitude. It's a big world and it does not rotate around the United States. Less and less every year does it do so.

  15. Re:Let vs Lets by fnj · · Score: 1

    You are both ignorant. It is perfectly proper British English.

  16. Re:Too Bad by dejitaru · · Score: 1

    Sad to say I just re-read it and now realized what you were saying and i failed... i'm going to go be emo in the corner now...

  17. Re:Too Bad by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    It's OK. Just grab Tribler and stream a nice episode of "1000 Uses For Seawater" /s

  18. download is the only option by kdayn · · Score: 1

    I have tried popcorn time and I can say that you can stream only popular stuff to begin with because you need plenty of seeders for your chosen quality which is a problem, also internet connection problem in the middle of your movie/show would be catastrophic, atleast for me. So I can only recommend downloading otherwise be prepared to be frustraited.

  19. Re:Let vs Lets by M8e · · Score: 1

    If it weren't for the french you would be speaking English right now!

    So eat your French fries, I'm eating chips. ;P

  20. Re:Let vs Lets by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Are you implying that Pirate Bay is plural in Britain?

    Um... Are you implying that Pirate Bay are plural in Britain?

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  21. Re:I stole this comment by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to seed!

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  22. Re:Let vs Lets by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    In the UK and many other English-speaking countries, organisations are considered plural and take plural verbs.

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  23. I thought this was already available? by D,Petkow · · Score: 1

    One of the trackers I use that is relatively small but has been offering p2p "clientless" torrent streaming via the web browser for some time. They do use a custom BHO plugin though for the client part. Never tried it tbh, but speeds here are always 10MB/s+, if enough peers are available, that is.

  24. Re:Too Bad by mjm1231 · · Score: 1

    I watch some NBA/NFL and the rest is on the Smithsonian channel. The last really good movie I watched was A Clockwork Orange about 30 years ago.

    If I were ranking Kubrick's movies in order of how much I enjoyed them, Clockwork would be near the bottom of the list. I guess this is why Baskin Robbins has more than one flavor. And why there are zero good reason for anyone to think their personal opinion should dictate the course of the world.

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  25. Re:Let vs Lets by xaxa · · Score: 1

    European WWW, Swedish web site, and — per capita —
    more Bittorrent traffic from Europe.

  26. Doesn't work for me... by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    Is this a windows-only thing?

    Doesn't stream for me on Linux Mint and Firefox. A separate tab opens in the browser and that's about all I get.

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  27. Re:Let vs Lets by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    Not really... In the US it's a hard rule, in the UK it's not a hard rule but collective nouns are singular 99% of the time.

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  28. Re:Let vs Lets by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    Just thought I'd give an example from a highly esteemed British newspaper because this is Slashdot and nobody believes anything unless it goes along with the "The US does it wrong!" groupthink.

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  29. Re:Let vs Lets by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

    "Organization do" (singular) is proper British usage and is dominant in most English speaking locales. "Organization does" (singular) is Americanized pidgin.

    No, this is completely wrong, regardless of what English-speaking country you live in. First, in a case like "organization do," the implication is still plural, not singular. "Organization" is here interpreted as a collective noun, meaning that while it is singular in form, when used this way it emphasizes the plural nature of the composition of the organization. "Germany is a nation," but "Germany have won the tournament." The latter does not mean that "Germany" is plural, but rather is a collective noun standing in for "members of the German team" which is plural and take a plural verb.

    Second, your use of the word pidgin is inaccurate. A pidgin language is a second language, a simplified version of one language used as a form of communication between communities which do not share the same language. Americans do NOT have a different primary language other than English. Therefore, American English by definition cannot be a "pidgin." You can claim it is a dialect, and you can object to characteristics of it, but it's not a "pidgin" language.

    Third, in British English the usage of a plural verb in this case is by no means mandatory. For some types of organizations or groups of people, a plural verb is common. For others, a singular verb is more common. Some show a mixture depending on context (whether the collective nature or the individual volition of members is being invoked). Also, corpus studies have shown that the use is dependent on formality, with plural verb forms being more common in very formal language and very informal language, but less common in "everyday" polite language.

    Fourth -- and perhaps most importantly -- in this specific case, your claim doesn't accord with examples used prominently in British English journalism. The Pirate Bay *IS* largely considered singular there. Numerous examples at the BBC website, for example, show that the BBC would prefer the singular "American" verb when referring to The Pirate Bay ("The Pirate Bay lets"). A few quick looks on other UK sources seems to indicate that the singular verb form is much more common.

    Get some elementary knowledge, stop the uninformed insults, and lose the provincial attitude.

    Maybe you could try getting some more advanced knowledge and realizing that your oversimplified statements are wrong.

    TL;DR -- Your assertion about British English in general is overbroad and inaccurately phrased. While there is more usage of plural verbs with singular collective nouns outside of the U.S., that usage is not always "proper" -- it depends on the particular noun and context. And regardless, your opinion does not reflect common journalistic practice from the UK regarding the specific word "The Pirate Bay."

  30. Re:Is it free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Somebody throw a dildo at this man's face.