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SourceForge Eliminates DevShare Program (sourceforge.net)
SourceForge has officially eliminated its DevShare program. The DevShare program delivered installer bundles as part of the download for participating projects. We want to restore our reputation as a trusted home for open source software, and this was a clear first step towards that. We are more interested in doing the right thing than making extra short-term profit. This is just the first step in a number of improvements we will outline in the coming weeks. SourceForge and Slashdot were acquired in late January by BIZX.
It's too late, I look at sourceforge like a spammer hijacker malware site.
You should just close it down.
The majority of the good open source apps have moved to GitHub over this, and user trust in the site is dead. I know myself and a number of people I know don't go there anymore, hell, uBlock even blocks it by default.
I think we're done here.
Why don't you pay up all that money you did make when you thought it was ok to not be a trusted home for open source software?
Or did you think open source meant not open source?
Too little too late, fuck you now assholes.
Why should anyone trust this spamware site?
Open source should just host on github.com for now, but they are SJWs and known for banning software for political reasons, so better yet use git and host on multiple git hosts at once. It's so easy with git (for source AND for the binaries downloads too).
"Making a extra short term profit" FAIL
Never understood why it was killed. It was a great way to find out about new and interesting projects/ideas.
Now let's take the next step and eliminate sourceforge
If Sourceforge were truly concerned about doing the right thing it would not have taken nearly so long. This is a case of the cash flows of the unethical behavior being lower than the prior cash flows due to a mass migration away from sourceforge. It's too little, too late, most likely. A website like sourceforge is based on reputation and current marketshare, both of those have been impacted significantly.
Captcha: Compete
SourceForge has a long way to go to regain mind share, but this is a good start. I think the type of folks that are posting to Slashdot are the type of folks who might be willing to help support it again. Let's see what comes next.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
Good job Sourceforge, keep up the good work.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
oh happy day, OoooOh o Happy When Jesus Washed.
YOUR SINS away....
Nobody else has said so, so let me say: Thanks for trying to fix things, New Management. I appreciate efforts like these. Keep it up.
The others are probably right about it being too late to make much difference, of course. Broken trust is a mother. And none of us are really sure how reputable the new bosses are, of course. But I feel it's important to recognize and encourage any steps in the right direction. So thanks again.
Too late...
Hello Mr Whipslash
Happy to see this as a start.
Are you going to remove the open source projects that tried to leave, or never voluntarily hosted their projects with sourceforge in the first place?
No bullshit. I'll really send you money. I remember loving sourceforge. If you have a gofundme, or paypal account, or something like that, I'll send you $5 to help offset the lost revenue from that program you scrapped. There are people out there who will help support those who do the right thing, even if they're companies or for-profit corporations, or whatever.
Give me my "Turn this ad off because you've got good Karma" option back, and there's another $10 in it for you.
It's been 2 1/2 years since I've posted. I see the potential in this for something I loved to come back. So I'll post now.
Who else will support these guys?
I had no idea this existed... I knew SF was sub-par, but not this bad.
Anyway, good luck to the new owners, hopefully they got a good deal (i.e. that the last owners got punished severely!).
I can't believe they were that dumb to try that racket. Completely ruined the reputation of the site and pushed away its core community. Good to hear the effort you're making to reverse the damage.
Call me cynical, but isn't a bit disingenuous that the company reporting news about Sourceforge making amends is owned by the same company that did the wrong doing?
I'll wait for an independent news source with no vested interest in Sourceforge before being swayed.
Thanks for the support. Keep your $15 for now. We're doing this because we want these sites to live up to their former potential, and if we do this correctly, then legitimate advertising dollars will support the business instead of bundled warez and deceptive ads. Hope you keep posting. We will definitely look at the karma/ad thing though.
Too early.
Right now it is all talk and a start, if the actions live up to the talk long term then I would consider it.
Reputation and Trust take years to build up, and it can all be destroyed in minutes by the wrong decisions. Back in the day, SF used to be the go-to place, but not anymore. I avoid it like the plague, like many, many others.
Good luck trying to build it again, but remember what I posted about reputation and trust...
-- Fuck Beta
^
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Okay Whiplash,
I remember reading the first "We now own Slashdot" article (and trust me, had I been able to get that dang winning Powerball ticket, I would have been in the bidding war :) ) and it is nice to see the staff following up on things extremely quickly considering how much cruft and contract that has to be dug through to make it happen. Looking forward to seeing good stuff. (Is this a note of optimism?) If you guys are in the Bay Area, I'll buy a round.
Hey whipslash. Thanks for following through on your previous statements and making this happen. Your participation in the discussions, and follow-through on this issue, gives me a lot of hope that Slashdot and Sourceforge are getting back on the right course.
Github is having it's own problems with credibility. It seems the Social Justice Warriors have infested the site with their lunacy.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
I've been lurking here since 98. If they can maintain half the engagement and clean up SF as mentioned, I'll keep visiting.
The goal is to hire non-white sales people. Github's boss has declared that she can't even interview white people. Worse, she has declared that white WOMEN are the enemy. Racists are racists, no matter which race they are denigrating.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
You must be new here.... ðYoe
Sourceforge, you will have a lot of work to do - besides just stopping serving up malware - before I can trust you again.
Keep at it, watch your advertising partners and your fake download links and you might recover my trust in a few years.
Excellent news. Thank you.
-Dave
https://sourceforge.net/blog/today-we-offer-devshare-beta-a-sustainable-way-to-fund-open-source-software/
Was that really 2 and a half years ago?
Hopefully this will be a blip in history of an iconic site.
Off topic I know but I wanted to say I appreciate the changes that have happened to slashdot as well. I look at the front page and there is only 1 story I would remove (The Anthropology sexual abuse one) and the rest are ones that I was actually interested to read about. I compare that to a fortnight ago and the difference is massive.
So thank you Whiplash.
And if you are interested these are the reasons why I would remove the Anthropology story
* Click bait headline - There is no way a single incident would "Rock" an entire global sector or industry.
* It isn't related to science, technology or anything that I would call Nerd worthy. You could change the word Anthropology for anything and the story doesn't change. It is a people story.
* Read the comments. There isn't anything to really discuss. Either you think the guy was a fuckwit or you think someone over reacted. There is no grey zones to discuss. No expert that could come in and give me a nugget of information that I didn't know.
* Sciencehabit is a posting bot. He / She / It isn't part of this community. I suspect there is a multi-poster somewhere with their credentials loaded into it and the only thing they are doing is trying to drive traffic to sciencemag.org having posted the same stuff to every site they could.
I'll take this as a good sign that the new overlords are not quite as evil as the last. Might be too late, but time will tell. Hope that the bad faith of the old overlords helped drive the price down.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Thanks for doing this.
SourceForge has a hard row to hoe in this day of GitHub and BitBucket. That said, it also has deep roots in internet culture. You've taken a big first step, but I'd like to see you all do more.
@whiplash - Turn it into a valid competitor to those two others - it can be a money maker for you, if you can leverage it's history.
I would suggest branching out from that, and go from just source code repo to docker and vagrant repo. Make it a one-stop-shop for getting new projects off the ground. Partner with something like Digital Ocean (if possible) to make it their go to reference.
You've bought a dilapidated property in a hot part of town, revitalize it, and I think you can see it being a cash cow.
Thank you. I'm sure you're aware that GitHub has gone full SJW and has started alienating developers. Source Forge may now have an opportunity to regain some market share.
HOWEVER.. Jesus Christ, the SF UI is a train wreck. It sucked in the 90s and sucks today. People put up with it then because there were no other options.
Look, it's about source, right? That is the first word in SourceForge. Open a GitHub project page and *bang* the source is right there. SourceForge? You have to click half a dozen times to find the source. And it's probably that shitty CVS source code viewer. Most people use SourceForge because they like CVS. At least drop that abomination ViewCSV and re-write it so it looks pretty.
Thank you and fuck beta.
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The karma/ad feature was a killer feature, please bring it back!
So, are you going to fix the annoying CDN/download system, ie the one that doesn't give simple URLs, but instead force every download through a CGI script, instead of using a proper fucking CDN, DNS round robin, or load balancer?
Do you have any idea how annoying it is to want to download a tarball from Sourceforge to a remote system I'm SSH'd to, but I can't copy the URL to the clipboard and paste it into the command line without escaping the ampersands, or having to manually rename the file?
Plus, let's be honest here: you're not fixing this crap because you all care about the open source community. You're fixing it because projects left in droves and your advertising revenue dropped. Stop pretending this is about anything other than money.
Please help metamoderate.
Reading over these comments, it's plain to see that whipslash is getting a demonstration of what you might call the "momentum of good will". If something has a bad reputation, one good move can't fix it overnight.
The flip-side of this is that I've heard stories from sales guys who say they get calls from clients they haven't spoken with in 10 years. They want to deal with the same guy because they remember the last good deal.
So. Hang in there whipslash. This is as bad as it gets, assuming you keep making the right moves.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
slashdot is still cvs and svn afaik.
nobody wants that anymore.
besides get rid of your old fashioned UI and all the ads on it. hell I want a place to host my code, not a billboard.
SourceForge lost the trust of users and developers. Bundling software with a download is dishonest and the fact that it is unwanted software is enough to consider it to be malware. New owners are not enough to prove that SF will not try something just as evil in the future.
We all remember the Sony root kit scandal and many of us have not purchased a Sony product since then. Trust is fragile and the anger of betrayed customers tends to hang around.
Seems to be an invitation to make my pitch again? This is another variation on the ideas presented in several other threads, but...
One of the functional problems of slashdot is how quickly topics go stale. Maybe that is the feature I should put my $15 on? Actually, I am thinking more along the lines of $100/year split into 10 projects for features or continuing costs. (As usual, details available upon polite request. The magic keywords for this one is "dynamic multidimensional topic search in the background".)
However, first a word from our sponsor!
Just joking, no sponsor, but there is a need for some background here. Maybe my premises are mis-focused?
As a wannabe user, I have frequently visited sourceforge over the years. Usually I am looking for specific software to solve some problem, and I often find it. Dead, orphaned, obsolete, fractional, or incomplete. THAT is the problem I want to solve, but I think we have to consider why the projects died, and I wish the new powers-that-be would refer us to some statistics about project death?
I think almost all of the programmers who were driving the sourceforge projects are well intentioned, but somehow fail to live up to their altruism. However, I take the idea pretty broadly. I even think that hoping to strike it rich by creating good software can be a form of altruism... The vow of poverty approach definitely does not work.
Therefore I think that the sincere interest of wannabe users should be assessed BEFORE sourceforge projects get the green light. My suggested form of sincerity would be pledging a $10 charity share towards the budgeted cost of the project. The natural implementation would be for the new owners to set up a 'charity share brokerage' and the wannabe donors would put their donations in a 'charity share account' that can be allocated towards the projects they like. The basic idea would be to prevent orphaned and incomplete projects, or to pick up old projects or ongoing costs on a transparent basis.
I even think the brokerage should earn a commission on the funded projects by providing several important services. (1) Make sure the proposals are complete. (2) Realistic schedule. (3) Acceptable budget (possible effected by competition from competing proposals for similar projects). (4) Testing and other easy-to-forget items are included. (5) SUCCESS CRITERIA. After the project has finished creating the software or otherwise been completed, then they would evaluate the results and the donors know how it came out. (Au, daupr. Keywords "charity shares”.)
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Very pleased by all the changes being made by Slashdot/SourceForge's new owners - what about SourceForge's next owners though?
Simple fact is, we don't know who's going to end up owning the site in the future - it's been changing hands a fair bit - so until there is long-term stability (years), it's going to be hard to restore trust.
I think you've done a great job so far, and love how you've been quick to react to feedback from the community. Looking forward to seeing how Slashdot and Sourceforge will continue to evolve under the new ownership.
Please do make a donation option. I use an Ad Blocker because I find the ad business toxic. I will not turn it off. Not even for Slashdot. But I do want /. to earn a living.
Numbered for what?
APK
P.S.=> Well, go on - let's hear it... apk
Nah, we're totally cool with red balloons, but there have to be exactly 99 of them so that bugs in the software will flash the message "something's out there!" X^D
Thanks, your efforts are appreciated. It would be nice if you could fix /. subscriptions though, I'd like to renew mine. I realize it's probably chump change in the scheme of things, but the benefits were worth it to me and I like to support the community I'm part of.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'm the first to get angry when someone says: "this is Capitalism; companies have the right to make a profit, whatever the (external) costs".
But we must recognize they provide a service, incur costs and must make some money to keep working. Even if they were a charity, they would need resources to work.
Of course, fooling people is a no-no, and I hope they have learned a lesson; and we, too: check MDsums from the original software site, for example. That aside, they provide a very necessary and valuable service to the Free Software community.
I think we're having it backwards: the aim is not just having free-as-in-no-cost things. We want Freedom. We should even have a business interesting enough from an economic point-of-view that other alternatives would spring up. And right now, given it's complicated to send money overseas (that's what the USA is for many of us), ad-based revenues are our best bet IMHO.
Despite the fact I don't like to log in to collect karma, I'd consider registering at Sourceforge to allow them to follow and adjust ads to my preferences (though I'm no developer).
Would help your rep if you stopped hijacking projects too. Theres been examples of this even reported in slahdot.
Personally i dont download anything from sourceforge anymore.
Of the stories on the front page the only ones I wouldn't consider "news for nerds" would be the sexual misconduct case and the Jeep gearshift story.
Believe it or not there are other types of engineers here besides folks who program for a living. The jeep gearshift story is about an engineering/design screwup and personally I find it quite interesting. Judging by the number of comments so did others. That sort of story definitely fits slashdot and would have before Dice took over. Furthermore the motto of Slashdot is "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters." Nerds come in many forms and I certainly am one but not of the IT variety. Stuff that Matters extends beyond IT.
I agree however that the stories seem to be more focused lately so that is a good thing in my opinion. Of course the number of comments is still WAY down from 10 years ago. Used to be that slashdot attracted a fairly elite technical crowd. That hasn't been the case for a few years now for the most part. I still find it interesting but not like I once did.
See subject: What's that supposed to mean? Why'd you downmod me asking it here before too -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
?
APK
P.S.=> Go on, let's hear it from YOU in person Logan Abbottwhipslash... apk
Maybe now i can unblock the entire site from ublock origin! Sourceforge actually being a decent site to download from?
What will happen next?
>In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10-12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16-18 years by 1920.
>Also: see: Deuteronomy chapter 22 verses 28-29, hebrew allows men to rape girl children and keep them: thus man + girl is obviously fine. Feminists are commanded to be killed as anyone enticing others to follow another ruler/judge/god is to be killed as-per Deuteronomy. It is wonderful when this happens from time to time: celebrate)
so happy, looking forward to another 10 years!
It's going to take a long time to restore faith in sourceforge if it's even possible at this point.
The damage has been done and it is very hard to get trust back.
I've now "permanently" unblocked SourceForge in my uBlock Origin setup -- didn't expect to ever do that again! Thanks for starting to tackle all the DICE abuse and neglect.
Just yesterday I was looking for a copy of an open source project I needed. I saw it was on SourceForge and immediately thought to myself "Yeah, I'm not getting it from there. It will give me an installer and try to install a bunch of other crap on my computer."
Posting "Eliminating the DevShare program" on your site means nothing to 98% of the people visiting SourceForge.
Posting "No more MalWare installers!" (or bundle installers, as you call them) would be a lot more effective, because that's how people viewed them anyway.
Fix your message and you'll get acceptance much faster.
I remember going to FM a little while back and being surprised to see it was basically shuttered. However, with that in mind I also recall getting some very odd looks from co-workers while browsing the site. The name makes it sound like some dicey shock/pr0n site.
Maybe bring back the premise of FM under a new name, or even under SF.
BTW, "whipslash", I'm assuming that the majority of revenue is going to come from either ads or possibly data-mining from comments etc...
One thing I'm happy to see is that - overall - desktop ads here are far more relevant to my needs/interests than most other sites. The only time I can even recall buying something from an ad was on here in the last few months.
However the roll-out/audio car ads still make me want to scream. Also, the mobile ads appear very generic and are annoying. A big block of "Apps you might like" including "Yahtzee", "Juice Jam" etc. Just because I'm on Android doesn't mean I want to play lame games that are probably sniffing my contacts (but hey, advertising some cool phone accessories might net some sales).
You guys should look into hiring some of the older /. and SF community members. Many of us actually remember when it was good here/there, and some would help you do it for cheap. Hell, I'll take minimum wage instead of my normal $75/hr consultation rates if you're willing to ask questions and listen to the bluntly honest answers.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Thank you for planning to clear out the sludge from SF downloads.
It's not self evident to me that providing installers for certain open-source projects is a "bad thing". Even if it were, surely it would be optional, and surely someone interested in using the code would have the option of downloading a binary installer vs the raw source tree. So why is the presence of this seemingly useful feature causing people to host their projects elsewhere and threatening Sourceforge's reputation? What am I missing?
I don't know if you can still catch up with github when it comes to collaboration workflow, but as a plain web hosting service for dynamic content you're still OK. I guess that if you can use the small window of opportunity that docker gives you, you might be able to regain your place.
I wish you well.
Emanuele
http://jbit.sourceforge.net
http://github.com/efornara/jbit
P.S.: I've read a hint about your https plans. That's great, but please make it optional! I would hate to leave you, as you still allow me to setup custom mime types and serve WML Pages to old feature phones.
Option to import project from Google Code would be nice: SourceForge is the only option for open-source Subversion hosting and some projects prefer Subversion these days.
"you are stealing other people's work in your code" - by Coren22 (1625475)
I don't steal (you project U do). I write my own code (U don't) & use public data to protect + speed up users.
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"You have yet to submit to a code review from anyone but your friend. No, I don't trust that" - by Coren22 (1625475)
A seasoned security pro & competent coder reviewed my work as safe & IT'S WHAT HE DOES (unlike you). He can't "play friends": It's his site & reputation.
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"You are terrified someone will steal your software if you publish the source code." - by Coren22 (1625475)
I don't give source away W/ GOOD REASON (Google's mistake w/ CHROME) -> http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
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"You have yet to address the issue of name resolution performance of anything not found in your hosts file. This is a serious issue when the hosts file is so large" - by Coren22 (1625475)
Placing users' FAVORITE SITES where they spend 95++% of their time online @ TOP of hosts files cached in LOCAL RAM gets them to sites FASTER & MORE RELIABLY than a more-than-potentially REDIRECT POISONED DNS SERVER (99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. the kaminsky flaw, or DNS amp attacks).
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"DNS outperforms your hosts file solution several fold" - by Coren22 (1625475)
No it doesn't (see above) - & DNS outperforms hosts in GOING DOWN (does a lot) OR poisoning users via redirect poisonings (DNS amp attacks = another).
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"so why not just run your own DNS server? Oh, resources eh?" - by Coren22 (1625475)
More resource consumption + moving parts complexity + POWER USE doesn't = a GOOD solution vs. hosts by using redirect poisoning/DNS amp attack exploitable DNS w/ only a few systems @ home.
---
"But you have no problem running 100k copies of the hosts file in a domain" - by Coren22 (1625475)
It works easily migrated by central admins via scripts or chronjobs/scheduled tasks w/ less moving parts complexity, room for exploit & breakdown, OR power usage.
APK
P.S.=> You FAIL menial... apk
"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts
hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."
FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
NOT a secretary!
I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:
Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
APK
P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag:
Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
OR
About how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
LOL... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!
... apk
"you are stealing other people's work in your code" - by Coren22 (1625475)
I don't steal (you project YOU do). I write my own code (you don't) & use public data to protect + speed up users.
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"You have yet to submit to a code review from anyone but your friend. No, I don't trust that" - by Coren22 (1625475)
A seasoned security pro & competent coder reviewed my work as safe & IT'S WHAT HE DOES (unlike you). He can't "play friends": It's his site & reputation.
---
"You are terrified someone will steal your software if you publish the source code." - by Coren22 (1625475)
I don't give source away W/ GOOD REASON (Google's mistake w/ CHROME) -> http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
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"You have yet to address the issue of name resolution performance of anything not found in your hosts file. This is a serious issue when the hosts file is so large" - by Coren22 (1625475)
Placing users' FAVORITE SITES where they spend 95++% of their time online @ TOP of hosts files cached in LOCAL RAM gets them to sites FASTER & MORE RELIABLY than a more-than-potentially REDIRECT POISONED DNS SERVER (99.999% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. the kaminsky flaw, or DNS amp attacks).
---
"DNS outperforms your hosts file solution several fold" - by Coren22 (1625475)
No it doesn't (see above) - & DNS outperforms hosts in GOING DOWN (does a lot) OR poisoning users via redirect poisonings (DNS amp attacks = another).
---
"so why not just run your own DNS server? Oh, resources eh?" - by Coren22 (1625475)
More resource consumption + moving parts complexity + POWER USE doesn't = a GOOD solution vs. hosts by using redirect poisoning/DNS amp attack exploitable DNS w/ only a few systems @ home.
---
"But you have no problem running 100k copies of the hosts file in a domain" - by Coren22 (1625475)
It works easily migrated by central admins via scripts or chronjobs/scheduled tasks w/ less moving parts complexity, room for exploit & breakdown, OR power usage.
APK
P.S.=> You FAIL menial... apk
"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts
hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."
FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
NOT a secretary!
I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
---
"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:
Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
APK
P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag:
Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
OR
About how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
LOL... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!
... apk
Since GitHub started?
I've actually gone to the trouble of digging up my old account I locked when Dice got involved to say this; "Thanks Whiplash for doing this so soon after you purchased the sites." I am sure a lot of people will watch developments intently. I wish you every success in efforts to salvage the reputations of both sites. It's needed, it's really needed.
Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)
They're just being what they are - deceitful money grubbers who downmod my posts minus proving me validly technically wrong is all - their problem, not mine!
APK
P.S.=> If they'd validly technically ABSOLUTELY fully disprove my points on hosts adding more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity DOING MORE for LESS, especially vs. sold-out to advertisers so they don't work INFERIOR redundant resource wasteful useless vs. clarityray/blockIQ browser addons? THEN, they'd have made a REAL point & put me away... clearly, they can't (& they KNOW it + so do folks like you quoted above)... apk
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)
"In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)
APK
P.S.=> See subject: There's the truth from REAL /. users, not advertiser or webmasters that profit by them SOCKPUPPETS fake accounts to effetely & VAINLY try "jump on the bandwagon" mass-marketing mind games on the weak minded here - those folks above? They aren't weak minded... & told the truth! apk
Sourceforge SERVES MALWARE kiddie porn that apk's program stops? Yes http://www.extremetech.com/com...
Coren22 the pitiful delusional fake name online using no talent menial eats his words vs. apk twice http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and http://slashdot.org/comments.p... you pitiful chump we're all LAUGHING at you, lol!
http://www.extremetech.com/com...
Can ublock do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets/stop C&C's
3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets/stop C&C's
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets/stop C&C's
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get by dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) Ez data control
16.) Block ads better than addons more efficiently
* ANSWER ="NO" on UBlock doing 'em as well or @ all + hosts = on devices natively.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do MORE w/ less vs. UBlock + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver):
Ublock's inefficient:
Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself.
UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...
Proof-> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
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ClarityRay defeats it via native browser methods!
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UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slow mode of operation (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).
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* UBlock Origin NOW USES HOSTS - imitation = sincerest form of flattery - it's NO resolver & can't do DNS stuff in my list above hosts can!
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The best = APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
Coren22 stands and FALLS behind his fake name online eating his words hahahahaha http://slashdot.org/comments.p... the price of being an online fake name unaccomplished zero is yours, Coren22. You shot yourself down.
Must suck to have to "stand behind" your fake name online and fall by it as apk made you eat your words twice http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + http://slashdot.org/comments.p... standing behind your blundering lie words and falling by them too hahahaha oh the humiliation.
SourceForge is a giant pile of shit. It will take you years to convince me otherwise
Must suck to have to "stand behind" your fake name online and fall by it as apk made you eat your words twice http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + http://slashdot.org/comments.p... standing behind your blundering lie words and falling by them too hahahaha oh the humiliation.
Yes we will definitely look at fixing it
Ok we will
Thanks, much appreciated. I'll sign up as soon as you announce it.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832)
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928)
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380)
"In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079)
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563)
"I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697)
"I support APK's stand on the hosts file and can't see why it's not used more than it is. My hosts file is 144247 lines long (4,332 Kb) it & a firewall serves me very well" - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)
APK
P.S.=> Ask whipslash about that from REAL /. users who aren't inferior competitor's sockpuppet shills or advertisers + webmasters that profit by ads... apk
You've downmodded me asking you questions http://news.slashdot.org/comme... so address this now:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832)
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928)
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380)
"In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079)
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563)
"I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697)
"I support APK's stand on the hosts file and can't see why it's not used more than it is. My hosts file is 144247 lines long (4,332 Kb) it & a firewall serves me very well" - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)
APK
P.S.=> From REAL /. users who aren't inferior competitor's sockpuppet shills or advertisers + webmasters that profit by ads... apk
You've downmodded me asking you questions http://news.slashdot.org/comme... so address this now:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832)
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928)
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380)
"In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079)
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563)
"I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697)
"I support APK's stand on the hosts file and can't see why it's not used more than it is. My hosts file is 144247 lines long (4,332 Kb) it & a firewall serves me very well" - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)
APK
P.S.=> From REAL /. users (& I have many more) who aren't inferior competitor's sockpuppet shills or advertisers + webmasters that profit by ads... apk
See subject: "... greatly exaggerated" - as you can see? I am still here...
APK
P.S.=> IF he does somehow "ban" me? It'll cost him in users and martyr me, since all I do is reply on topic about hosts value!
Especially hosts VALUE vs. inferior, sold-out to advertisers to NOT do their job fully crippled by default, redunandant, wasteful, clarityray/blockiq detected and blockable addons - more & more folks support my program + hosts in general here (and elsewhere online) so, it looks like the WEBMASTERS + ADVERTISERS BEHIND THEM (along with inferior competitors) ARE SCARED SHITLESS... lol, I love it! apk
See subject - ask him WHY he doesn't just speak to me here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & that's only 1 of a few times I've written him DIRECTLY asking what he wants or what he means (says it all).
* A lot of people (& what I put up there has a LOT more than those folks behind it) LIKE what I post & program for them to go faster, safer, more security & even a bit more anonymously online (for less than inferior, redudant, sold out to NOT WORK RIGHT ANYMORE, bloated wasteful, easily detected + BLOCKED by ClarityRay/BlockIQ addons - which webmasters paid by ADVERTISERS 'dont mind' (as long as they're paid by advertisers who payoff AlmostALLAdsBlocked to not work that is)).
APK
P.S.=> Utterly PETTY & his favorite COLOR = TRANSPARENT as I see RIGHT thru it easily (& yes, so do many others)... apk
My code was reviewed by a known & respected security pro + coder @ malwarebytes hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."
FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
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I use public data to secure others that's freely obtained.
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Hosts with hardcoded favorites @ TOP of hosts CACHED IN LOCAL SYSTEM RAM is where they SPEND 95++% OF THEIR TIME ONLINE - that's how much speed I gain them 95++% of the time vs. REMOTE DNS!
(They miss a lookup? No big deal - hosts is cached in RAM so it parses fast & I FAR MORE THAN SAVE THE LOOKUP TIME in ADBLOCKING SPEED GAINS ALONE as well... you FAIL bigtime here)
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Hosts file performance is NOT "abysmal" in Windows MORON - where do you get THAT bullshit from LIAR?
Hosts makes people go faster & FASTER THAN AlmostALLAdsBlocked does per FINDINGS @ SUPERUSER.COM -> http://superuser.com/questions...
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* CALL ME NAMES but it ONLY SHOWS HOW WEAK YOU ARE, Coren22!
(...- & if ANYONE HAS MENTAL ISSUES? It's clearly you, "ASSBURGERS" defective BRAIN that you ADMITTEDLY are...)
APK
P.S.=> You're either an IGNORANT imbecile or a deceitful moron - take your pick but in the end you EAT YOUR WORDS AS ALWAYS menial little do-NOTHING "ne-er-do-well" that you are... lol!
... apk