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Ask Slashdot: Good Technical Guide To Windows 10?
An anonymous reader writes: Back 'in the day' you could easily find books on NT, Windows 2000, or Slackware that went into painstaking detail about every functional aspect of the operating system (think Slackware Unleashed). They covered the interplay between BIOS, boot sector, crash dumps, every command-line option, etc. Past about Win 2000 I fell way behind focusing on finishing my EE degree. Now when faced with a complex issue, I just end up at Google, but would prefer a good comprehensive book on recent Win8/Win10 architectures. Any suggestions? Are these books all but limited to course-prep now?
Windows 10 searches technical guide to you.
Back in the days of NT and 2000, Internet connections were still primarily dialup Google while around, wasn't a dependable source to get info.
Today it is far more convenient to get this info from the internet from multiple sources. So there isn't much of a market in all encompassing technical books.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Wrong! Zeroth.
The Windows Internal books are really good for that kind of detail
Paul Thurrott has published a Field Guide to Windows 10 that you can purchase through his site at https://www.thurrott.com/store. He has been writhing Windows guides for a long time and i find them to be very helpful. With the ever changing nature of OS delivery these days, it is hard to keep current and so I think most gudes have migrated to the Internet. Another source is to look for books written by Mark Russinovich, I believe he is a fellow at Microsoft, but his books and software are highly regarded as well.
Missing Manual:
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-...
Microsoft Books:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/micros...
That book market no longer exists. The vast majority of books are exam prep now.
Now it's all about finding the right resources online.
A proper search targeted at technet.microsoft.com (for admin issues) or msdn.microsoft.com (for dev issues) will usually be helpful.
I've found technet to be more frequently helpful, and Stack Overflow or Stack Exchange are good alternatives to MSDN. Technet has an exhaustive, option-by-option descriptions of the modern CLI commands. This is the closest thing you'll probably find to those old books.
If you are interested in scripting, you should probably familiarize yourself with PowerShell, as it is far more powerful and flexible than the traditional Windows CLI.
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Hi there, It's a shame everyone is just telling you not to use it, instead of being somewhat helpful. I am but a simple sysadmin and am too much of a burnout to do any development work, but have you checked out Microsoft's online resources? It looks like the Microsoft Virtual Academy at least has some info on the subject: MSVA The SDK is available on Windows Dev Center -- I don't know what you've looked through yet, but I don't think there's going to be a silver bullet for this one. Try to hobble along with MS Virtual Academy and the Devel blogs until someone releases a book/guide with everything you need.
640k ought to be enough for anyone.
That's for damn sure, I upgraded 8.1 to 10 just to see if it was better and it broke nearly all my hardware drivers, the most important being the hub that gives me access to external devices / outputs.
What a huge waste of time that was, my laptop isn't even a year old.
I rolled back and had to install some utilities to "unfuck" my laptop, it was hell
You don't need to know anything technical about Windows 10! Windows 10 is designed to be so friendly and maintenance free, you will never have to do anything technical. Being technical is hard. You don't want life to be hard, so we're making it easy for you.
Everything from remote updates to resetting your default apps is handled automatically so you don't have to waste your valuable time on it. We understand how important your time is to you, after all! We know you'd rather be out vlogging your night out with friends or Skyping with family than tinkering with your operating system.
So, just sit back, relax, and enjoy Windows 10! It was designed just for you!
I also need the schematics for my CPU.
No, I'm kidding.. In all seriousness it is a terrible search "assistant".
But yeah, Google I guess.. It's what I always use.
Technet is what MS oriented IT professionals use nowdays. Detailed and only way to pass the MCSE exams.
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/. readers are mostly anti-Microsoft and pro-Linux.
You are better off asking your question on a Microsoft site, if you don't mind turning off your adblocker just so you can use their site.
http://www.howtogeek.com/22072...
Escalating to google can always get you more up-to-date and precise information. Just use common sense and mind your sources.
Silence is a state of mime.
So I know the kinds of books you're talking about. I used them in school, bought them used for reference material, and generally don't mind them as a bookshelf occupant. However as the internet and online documentation have gotten more ubiquitous, I've used them more and more often as they are easier to search and I don't always have access to them.
Here are two of the books I own:
Win 2000 Bible
Win 2003 Server Bible
Now here is a Windows 10 version.
That took me under 10 seconds to find using google. The first three results are 700+ reference guides for advanced users. My advice to you would be, "JFC use a good search before you submit an ask slashdot like this."
Consider: https://leanpub.com/windows10fieldguide
I recently ordered the ebook version of The Missing Manual for Filemaker Pro 14 and found it almost impossible to use to quickly jump around to a particular topic on my iPad or PC. I returned it to Amazon and ordered the dead tree version. That last time I bought a dead tree door stopper was ten years ago.
Neither Linux nor OSX are options to anyone interested in PC Gaming, or VR at the moment. Linux has more potential there, but realistically, if you enjoy AAA games with the most powerful graphics hardware available, it's Windows or nothing. (Yes there are consoles, I said Most Powerful Available).
And the guy you're responding to IS trolling. Responding to an honest request for information with "shut up and go away" isn't productive in the slightest.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
"Dangerous Liaisons"
I come here for the love
Neither Linux nor OSX are options to anyone interested in PC Gaming, or VR at the moment.
Whoah. So you're saying, platforms that don't suit your specific needs don't suit your specific needs. Wow. You should do a Ted talk.
I majored in comp sci. I don't read these kinds of books.
I was working on the Google help desk in 2008 when I had to walk a recent computer science graduate through the process of turning on his PC. He was shocked — shocked! — that a cubicle farm wasn't like a computer lab and no one was standing around to turn on his computer. I'm always surprised by how many computer scientists don't know how to operate PC hardware. They probably don't read those kinds of books.
When I had to learn it I used "Windows 10: The Missing Manual" by David Pogue and published by O'Reilly (who I work for). I also noticed that several other sites listed it as a top book: http://www.techradar.com/us/ne...
With the broad based yet in depth material you are looking for, you will need several books. I know how you feel though, finding well written and laid out 800 - 1000+ page books that were written for experts is not as simple as it used to be. After first reading your question I went and took a look at a bookshelf I have containing my oldest tech books from fifteen or more years ago. You really can't find stuff like that anymore. I actually left out some Windows 10 books in my list below because 80 out of 800 pages being useful isn't worth it, at least not to me. So as a long time and frequent tech book buyer, here is this best I can come up with:
The first would be: Windows 10 Inside Out http://www.amazon.com/Windows-.... It's about 900 pages of too simple for you through very complex concepts and procedures as they apply to that platform. It sounds like you would skip quite a bit, but there is enough in there to make it worth it.
Then of course there is the Windows 10: The Missing Manual http://www.amazon.com/Windows-... This is another example where you will likely skip over a lot of material but the good stuff is in fact pretty good.
Overwhelmingly above and beyond I want to recommend the Windows Internals series. However, I cannot find anything specific to Windows 10. As far as Windows 8 is concerned, this series is a stop here and buy this now kinda thing. If someone else can point in the right direction for Windows 10 coverage by this series, I myself would be grateful.
Once you've covered broad based expertise which likely won't take you long, you really need to start thinking along the lines of studying a few highly specific topics.
Oh, and then for either broad or focused based learning there is always the official MS Press series. I'm always a bit leery of that series though. I never purchase an MS Press book, especially recently released, unless I can find a substantial number of reviews across multiple sites for any one book. IMHO MS Press is the worst when it comes to publishing materials riddled with factually incorrect information, and reviews are the best way to get a heads up. Otherwise I think they make some of the greatest tech books. Sorry for not having a perfectly straight answer.
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Back in the day, people released fully-functional things instead of the on-going beta which is Windows 10 which they're developing as they keep pushing more of it out.
And, back in the day, companies couldn't use the DMCA to claim all this shit was proprietary and deem you not allowed to know it.
I don't see Microsoft as giving a damn if you have such information, or making it easy to get it. You think they're going to fess up to the amount of ads, analytics, telemetry and other crap they're doing without telling you?
In those 15 years you've lost the right to know anything, and the right to "own" your operating system. Due to EULAs and everything else, Windows 10 is whatever the hell Microsoft says it is, and they can change it at will ... and you have agreed you're not allowed to get a vote.
I'd be surprised if anybody at Microsoft knew all of this stuff any more.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Hasn't it occurred to any of you, that there are no other commercial operating systems other than Windows anymore? Honestly, does that seem right to you? Other than whatever flavor of Linux, or OSX (which technically you're not supposed to have without Apple hardware), what is there?
And when was the last time that this wasn't true? At least 20 years ago, probably even longer?
that's false, there are other OS like eComStation or Solaris. whether those are useful for your applications is your problem
damn, you windows weenies don't know much about alternative operating systems. yes there are plenty of proprietary OS now and 20 years ago that run on the PC besides windows. 20 years ago would be OS/2 Warp, various SCO unix, several realtime OS..
If you want an introductory guide you can sit through the MVA training courses. They are not good reference material and very time consuming but they do provide a decent overview of the technical configuration and get you familiar with the terminology used by Microsoft. Once you understand the Microsoft terminology you can then use google and Technet to do more in-depth research.
"I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
Unfortunately some of my software will be used on windows 10 machines.
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
Unfortunately some of my software will be used on windows 10 machines.
Please accept my condolences.
What if you use Windows only programs for school?
Some of us have to use Windows for some things.
damn, you windows weenies don't know much about alternative operating systems. yes there are plenty of proprietary OS now and 20 years ago that run on the PC besides windows. 20 years ago would be OS/2 Warp, various SCO unix, several realtime OS..
Why would those count more than Linux and OSX (which the original post already discounted)? And what has there been since then?
You can certainly argue about whether it's true that "there are no other commercial operating systems other than Windows anymore". My argument was about the word "anymore", since the original post seemed to be implying that the situation has changed recently, which I do disagree with.
Side note: I'm hardly a "windows weenie". I've been using Linux on my home desktop for nearly 8 years now, so I've already found the alternative that works for me. I try as much as I possibly can to avoid using Windows.
I'd point you here.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Agreed.
But if one is forced I've always liked Black Vipers Window's Service Configuration Guides
i.e.
* Windows 10
* Windows 7 SP1
etc.
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Microsoft UI retards: Where is the < 100% font scaling option? Custom scaling?? Config per monitor???
Neither Linux nor OSX are options to anyone interested in PC Gaming, or VR at the moment.
Hmmm, I guess my 100+ games on OSX and Linux are a figment of my imagination. As are several AAA games. I'm thinking you've bought the DirectX API is l337 hook line and sinker. The movement in games is away from solely MS. It won't surprise me if Windows x was a late comer to a game within the next year due to its current unstable base. Yep, Win10 can change APIs at a drop of the hat, or a single update push with little to no choice for most. Mass breakages have already happened and I don't believe for a moment there won't be more. The entire thing stinks like a pile of agile.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Agreed.
Get the best technical guides you can find for self-defense.
One sentence: Don't use it.
Eh, speaking as someone who cut his teeth on optimizing DOS and Win3.11 for gaming, it's important to know why you shouldn't use it, which will help you appreciate alternatives like Linux and *BSD that much more.
Rifle through the steps at: ... and you'll gain an intimate familiarity with how to handle many of its unwelcome advances.
https://github.com/dfkt/win10-...
https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Deb...
Eh, speaking as someone who cut his teeth on optimizing DOS and Win3.11 for gaming, it's important to know why you shouldn't use it, which will help you appreciate alternatives like Linux and *BSD that much more.
Rifle through the steps at: ... and you'll gain an intimate familiarity with how to handle many of its unwelcome advances.
https://github.com/dfkt/win10-...
https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Deb...
Difficulty: How can you be sure you've eliminated all the "telemetry" AKA "Microsoft Genuine Spyware(tm)"?
Your lack of reading comprehension astounds me almost as much as your incredible ignorance.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
What exactly do you mean by "the process of turning on his PC"?
Press the power button because computer is turned off.
My BLT drive on my computer just went AWOL and I got this big project due tomorrow for Mr. Kawasaki, and if I don't get it in, he's gonna ask me to commit Harakiri.
Harakiri is a acceptable solution. Please use something sharper than a plastic knife.
Yes, several of AAA games from 5 years ago. No fallout, no GTA. And let's be real honest here, Linux display drivers suck donkey dicks. I don't want to play half-life 2 on two R9 290's in crossfire and only get a shaky 45fps. Not to mention that Xwindows isn't multi-threaded, so if you have a dynamic webpage in the background with a bad script you drop frames. SteamOS, Debain, and Ubuntu can all lick balls right now. It is not a well functioning gaming platform. Linux has a lot of good uses. Gaming isn't one of them.
Step 2: Get a refund from Stanford University for not learning how to turn on a computer while learning computer science.
Yeah, I did a quick search on O'Reilly & found it. Given how good O'Reilly books have generally been, I'd probably pick that one
This sounds like what you're looking for:
Windows Internals, 6th edition
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963901.aspx
There even used to be a great MS certification, 70-660 Windows Internals (but was retired in 2013).
There's also this book, which is great:
Reversing: Secrets of Reverse Engineering
http://www.amazon.com/Reversing-Secrets-Engineering-Eldad-Eilam/dp/0764574817/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1252626160&sr=8-1
Happy reading.
There are other AAA games that are not FPS which suit me fine (not a FPS fan, don't care to see other players hopping around like crickets on crack). How is X-Windows not multi-threaded? Unless you're talking about the bugs in xlib when multiple threads share 1 Display connection, as one example. But you can certainly run XWindows programs with multiple threads. Coding them correctly, however, has always been challenging for any performance type application. As for Linux graphics drivers, there were a few announcements recently that may hold promise. It would certainly be nice if those bore fruit, because those same drivers might be usable on BSD as well.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
I've found value on the material from MS Virtual Academy for System Center, SQL, Windows Server, and Windows Client: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/micros...
> Yes, several of AAA games from 5 years ago.
You do realize AAA is a bullshit marketing term, right? Let's actually look the data of Best selling PC games
Because I see Minecraft and Terraria at spots #1 (22 million), and #3 (12 million) respectively. So what makes a game AAA because it sure isn't sales. Pretty graphics?
> Linux display drivers suck donkey dicks. I don't want to play half-life 2 on two R9 290's in crossfire ...
That's your problem right there. I don't have any problems with my nVidia GTX Titan on Linux. If you're running into issues complain to AMD to fix their Linux driver support.
Computer science has as much to do with building computers as astronomy has to do with building telescopes.
Computer science doesn't cover turning on your own computer? That explains all the clueless computer scientists I've dealt with over the years.
Did you complain to your driving instructor because he didn't teach you how to wire up the ECU in your car too?
If I have a problem with the car, I take it to my mechanic and pay for the privilege. Sometimes at $1,000+ per pop.
I'm glad when people ask easily answered questions instead of F-ing with sh-t that isn't theirs and that I might have to fix if they F up.
Turning on the computer shouldn't be one of those questions.
Nvidia drivers blow too, don't act like they don't. Before I had the 290's I had 650TI's in there. in both instances, Windows blows the hell out of Linux. And again, you can't play any of the really cool new games. Fallout and GTA are sandbox games not FPS btw. When linux can compete with Windows in gaming, I will be more than happy to swtich.
I read somewhere that what makes a game "AAA" is the *budget*...
You'd be surprised how many AAA titles are available for Linux on Steam.
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I just looked at the "mod history." It's been bouncing around like a ping-pong ball in a hurricane.
Did anybody even consider the possibility that this was intended as a snarky but not trollish joke????!!!!!
Do you think the Windows 10 version that the DoD is getting is anything like the one you'll be force-fed as a consumer or small business?
While the interface is being adjusted to be usable and back-end items change is not a good time to be either reading or writing a hard copy book on a bit of software.
The three or so hoops you have to jump through just to shut down is probably going to be changed since it's so ridiculous. Other things are likely to change. Vista changed a lot on the way to being usable and I think Win10 will as well even though it has less obvious flaws than initial Vista.
The hidden icons offscreen from Win8 have already gone so other parts that came in with the "metro" idea are likely to follow.
Since it's so flaky at the moment things can be inconsistent - recently I couldn't even get the program menu up on a Win10 machine until a reboot and I initially thought I was fighting a GUI change but instead the "start" menu had crashed while whatever handles launch from icons had not.
Hence: bullshit marketing term
. /sarcasm Because a creator spending twice as much on making a game/movie means I'll enjoy it _twice_ as much, right? :-) Yeah, uh, no.
Not bullshit but a common and annoying "feature" on multi-display machines when a screen is turned off. Notifications can be sent to where a user cannot see them and if no action is taken a reboot happens. It's annoying for full screen gaming, home cinema, powerpoint presentations and similar situations.
I've just come out of a thread where a guy was insisting at length that hard drives don't get hot when they are used intensively so I am beyond amazement as to how little some developers touch hardware.
I started on a Vic20 and found the Programmers Reference Guide most (in)valuable.
https://archive.org/details/VI...
I found a Win32 API book useful a dozen (or more?) years ago.
Now I'm on Debian variants, and Google is most helpful.
I wouldn't worry about Win10 reference manuals unless you were offline.
+1 for BEER-WARE license :-)
I remember those types of books fondly and regularly purchased them as well as the academic ones since they were often used to by the developers of the production software themselves. I miss the days of when Mark Russonovich would write entire books about file systems. I miss when Linux programming reference manuals actual were more than just man page dumps. How about when Michael Abrash was rocking the world with graphics books?
There's a real problem. As a man-whore who used to be a programmer but no makes a living licking boots and climbing under desks (I'm an IT consultant and instructor... it pays A LOT more than programming... 4.5x as much actually) I regularly am approached by the big companies about writing books or courses on different topics. The fact is, there is just not enough money in technical books precisely because google is so reliable that companies aren't interested in writing them unless they are purely academic text books they can force students to buy every semester for obscene amounts.
I calculated based on the last offer I received.. it would have been an official certification guide for a major technology. It probably would be able to sell 50,000 copies in 2016 and 2017. The offer I received to write the book would have limited me to about 320 pages and would have paid me approximately $0.80 an hour if I did the job properly.
The answer is that you won't find these types of books anymore.
You can get a little more technical though.
1) UEFI programmer's guide is no too bad. It's not overly informative since the boot process of a modern operating system isn't really as interesting as it used to be. Not only that, there's no real standard beyond the basic file structure to define the boot process. Everything else is really quite dynamic. It's not like when we had to manage to write most of the code to load an OS in 450 bytes because the rest was the partition table.
2) GUID partition tables are really a tricky one. I learned this one by reading the source code to several Linux partitioning utilities. Even now, I struggle to understand how to make a partition resizer which doesn't damage this structure too badly. Of course, I haven't really found myself interested in it.
3) Windows booting. This is pretty well documented in the Windows Driver Development Kit (or whatever it's called this week). It's not awesome documentation, but it really isn't bad. Ever since Windows 8 when they made the major overhaul, it's been probably the most elegant driver structure in any OS. I recommend spending some time with it. Before that it was a nightmare. Today, you can even do driver development directly in Visual Studio (or emacs if you have mental illnesses) and debug directly on a VM or remote machine. The structure has done away with the antiquated linux style and started working towards making something which could provide some decent structure in the OS. Mac OS X is probably still the nicest, but their code quality isn't really what it used to be.
4) Windows structure. Like most OSes, this is currently set in stone and will stay like that for a while. You can try two fairly useful methods.
a) Download the leaked NT4 and Windows 2000 source code files you find online. They are far from complete as they were really just the bits of code licensed from Microsoft to make an alternative to Wine. But they are really really useful.... or so I've heard as I've never seen it myself of course.
b) Download the official source code to Windows CE. It's 100% complete and legit and is an excellent means of learning a great deal about the Win32/64 design approach.
5) Linux structure I can't make any recommendations on this. There were some excellent books back in the early days. These days, it's pretty much read the code. Nearly every page I encounter via Google is either half finished, inaccurate, lacking editing, out-of-date... after all these years, there's not a single series of man pages or help files or anyt
Hmmm, I guess my 100+ games on OSX and Linux are a figment of my imagination. As are several AAA games.
The key word here being several.
I posted a summary of the January Steam Hardware & Software Survey here earlier.
Short and sweet, it's 95% Windows, 4% OSX and 1% Linux, with no single Linux distro polling above 0.2%. Win 10 closing in on 35%.
I don't really care about gaming whether on Linux or anywhere else, but when it comes to Nvidia performance on Linux, it's been on par with Windows for a long time. So "blow out of the water" is a gross exaggeration in the general case. (YMMV and all that).
Stefan Axelsson
Look if you spend days tweaking the OS you may be able to eek out decent frames, but it has been my experience that i got less hashes per second and less frames per second on linux drivers reguardless of platform. Oh and there is this article, but ars technica is just a windows schill right?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/...
That would be within the concern of an information technology degree.
Maybe that's my problem then. I took computer programming at a community college. We had no one standing around to turn on our computer for us. In fact, we were expected to troubleshoot why the computer didn't turn before letting the instructor know. No sense in wasting the instructor's time by having him troubleshoot the computer.
I am beyond amazement as to how little some developers touch hardware.
I don't think assembly language or inspecting the assembly output of a compiled language like C++ is taught in the schools anymore. Unless the programmer is developing for embedded hardware or cross-compiling across different hardware platforms, the underlying hardware details are abstracted away from being a concern.
Since I don't keep up with AAA games in general, I can only comment on those I personally own. I also prefer not to run Steam in general. I am sure I'm not alone. There must be a market for non windows games since so many are being released on OSX/Linux, or are you saying companies are just throwing money away to make that claim?
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Did you miss a link? I didn't find the article referred to.
It's been my experience (as well as Phoronix) that the proprietary Nvidia drivers have had the same performance on Linux and Windows, to within as little as doesn't matter, for many, many years now. And I haven't really heard anyone that's experienced otherwise? No tweaking necessary
But maybe you're comparing the free and open Nvidia drivers against the windows closed ones? There's no comparison there, no argument. I'm talking about the Nvidia blob for linux. Which is basically the same source as their windows one, they have a unified driver architechture.
Stefan Axelsson
I did miss the link, i posted it in reply. Again. I am not saying linux is horrible. I really hope it gets better. Nvidia drivers, the last time i tried (a year ago admittdely) was a nightmare. Ubuntu wouldnt shut down the xwindow system long enough to install the new drivers. I spent a week trying to replace windows with nix at work, but stopped when i couldn't get the displays to span all 4 monitors on two different cards. They could span displays on the same card, and allowed separate desktops on each. I develop in nix, i have been hands on in nix since the late nineties, and linux gaming has come a long way since tux racer. But I am a pragmatist, I like android, but I have an Ipad air becuase android didn't make a device with the same quality at the time. I really hate windows 10, I home steamOS pushes nix gaming farther vefore windows 8 is EOL.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/...
A bit of a worry since I even did a bit about the hardware and disassembled code in high school! Not difficult stuff but without the concepts of how it works programmers can do some pretty stupid things.
Yeah OK, current situation is that people afflicted with the need to play certain games on their computer need to get speed spied on. Luckier people without the affliction can move to Linux.
Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
Yes, I saw the link in the separate comment now, and read it. It's talking about another thing than what I'm doing, (and thought we were doing). Namely the state of Nvidia's drivers on Windows vs Linux.
The article you're citing says itself that the difference is between DirectX on Windows and OpenGL on Linux. That, that couldn't be different is not something I could argue. On the contrary, if you develop a game for one API (with its inherent assumptions of how to use it best) and then port it to another, of course there can be differences in performance. The same if of course true of the the hardware, if it's developed with one API in mind, and then the driver implements another, then again there could be large differences.
My argument was that if you have OpenGL code using the Nvidia driver on windows for a certain performance, than you'll have the same on Linux. While that is not true for AMD's offerings, it is true for Nvidia, and has been for a long time. The article you cite even says as much itself (by way of a Phoronix reference).
And yes. Getting your displays to work at all, esp. in an even slightly unusual setup can be a pain on Linux. Again, Nvidia based setups are often better here as well.
Stefan Axelsson