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New Research Shows You Can Grow Sperm In a Dish (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit writes: How the male body produces sperm has long been hidden inside its genitalia. Trying to recreate the process in a lab for humans and other mammals has led to many failures - sperm development appeared to be dependent on unique conditions in the testes. But a new technique may finally be bringing that process into the open. A team of Chinese researchers reports turning a dish of a certain type of mouse stem cell into spermlike cells, which were then used to fertilize eggs and produce healthy mouse pups. The approach could help researchers study mammalian sperm development more directly, and it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people.

158 comments

  1. No more domestic violence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seems that we've solved that problem.

    1. Re:No more domestic violence by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      For Great Social Justice!

    2. Re:No more domestic violence by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh? Does it solve violence against men from women? Go back to your anonymous hole.

    3. Re:No more domestic violence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually agree with you here. I made the statement because that's what the feminists would lead you to believe. But life is never that simple. And yes, there is certainly domestic violence where the woman is violent against the man. Hence the anonymous hole.

    4. Re:No more domestic violence by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Sure...but just TRY to get a petri dish to mow the fucking lawn.....

      :)

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  2. Why? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I produce plenty, don't need a dish, only a web connection.

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could lead to the grossest science fair projects yet!

    2. Re:Why? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Not for a biologist.

    3. Re:Why? by flopsquad · · Score: 1

      This could lead to the grossest science fair projects yet!

      "But Doug, the lab-grown meat booth doesn't even have Hollandaise sauce!"

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    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a biologist, and I am 100% in agreement that high school students jizzing to web porn for science is still gross science.

  3. Sex bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering if this would mean the third-wave feminists will drop their opposition to sex bots, now that men are no longer necessary to keep humans around - but then I remembered the reason they're opposed to sex bots isn't because they want humanity to survive, it's because they want a husband and a free lunch.

    1. Re:Sex bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just the free lunch. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are giddy at the idea of exterminating men once human sperm can be grown in a dish.

    2. Re:Sex bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll still need men to do all the dirty jobs they don't want to do.

    3. Re:Sex bots by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Sex bots? As soon as a robot can kill a spider in a bathtub, it's all over for penile-Americans.

    4. Re:Sex bots by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The 3rd-wave feminists need men urgently as the suppressed class that works for them and fulfills all their needs. As none of them have any actual skills besides grandstanding and claiming to be victims and bossing others around, they would just die on their own, like any other parasitic life-form.

      Of course, they do not want to pay with sex for all that either, so I really do not see why they are opposed to sex-bots and porn in the first place. May just be a result of general stupidity and inability to connect causes and effects.

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    5. Re:Sex bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      already is you have turned into such girlie manginas you asked your mommy to kill the spider.

    6. Re:Sex bots by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Third-wave feminism is pretty much dead nowadays, and 4th wave is having a very hard time figuring who they should hate.

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    7. Re:Sex bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where my mod points when I need them to mod you up...

    8. Re:Sex bots by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The sentiment is appreciated...

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  4. What does that mean. by Sla$hPot · · Score: 0

    Especially to the pron industry?

    1. Re: What does that mean. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would spern the prawns to spert their spawn with stern aplamb.

  5. Why is this a good thing? by JustNiz · · Score: 0

    >> it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people. ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

    1. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >> it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people. ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

      A few years of unsuccessfully trying to have a baby would change your opinion and attitude on the subject.

    2. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure GP isn't interested in reproducing, unlike yourself, who presumably *does* believe the planet needs more humans.

    3. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you've expanded your mind to the full implications of what this means for your particular worldview that people are the problem. If all males are sterilized early in life and a doctor's intervention is required to conceive children then all your people problems are solved. Not only does this give control over the number of people, but also the type of people who reproduce. Evil people who want to engineer society and humanity itself to make it better and more sustainable should be dancing in the streets that their dreams of a dystopian future are one step closer to being technically feasible. Just price it at about $10,000 and the invisible hand of the market will do the dirty work for you or, if you prefer a hands on approach, combine this technology with China one-child policy type of program and let a politburo decide who is allowed to have children. Keynes would be so pleased.

    4. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't make me Godwin you, because, so help me, I'll do it!

    5. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So adopt. Plenty of kids out there who could use a good home. I have several friends who've done cross-racial adoption too... there's no reason your kids need to look like you.

    6. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watchhttp://science.slashdot.org/story/16/02/25/184215/new-research-shows-you-can-grow-sperm-in-a-dish# the start of Idiocracy. Even the writer just tweeted that it wasn't supposed to be a documentary.

    7. Re:Why is this a good thing? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Not to mention having bad genes- ie can't make sperm. Might be interesting idea though for Vets that have had their genitalia blown off.

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    8. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 1

      Birth rates in advanced countries are already well below the rate of replacement. In some countries, it's so low they're going to see significant population declines. The only place birth rates are still up are in the most underdeveloped parts of the world, and even in moderately developed countries it's tapered off quite a bit. China panicked about their birth rate, instituted draconian measures, and now has a significantly negative birth rate, to the point that they're going to have a huge demographic swell of the elderly, followed by a massive drop as the old generations die off.

      This will basically just be a drop in the bucket, no pun intended. It's going to be way too expensive to really have any impact in any place but the more developed world, and those are the places that have birth rates below replacement level.

    9. Re:Why is this a good thing? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "A few years of unsuccessfully trying to have a baby would change your opinion and attitude on the subject."

      It's just hormones pumped into your body by your genes who want to replicate. Since we know that, you can easily overcome the need, since it's not _you_ wanting this unpaid job for decades.

    10. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just hormones pumped into your body by your genes...
      ...it's not _you_...

      ?????

    11. Re:Why is this a good thing? by JustNiz · · Score: 0

      Nope. I'd get the hint that its natural selection in action.

    12. Re:Why is this a good thing? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Sorry but I believe that its in humanity's best interests that we shouldn't try and work around the little natural selection that we haven't already circumvented.

    13. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 Insightful?

      Wow, the butthurt is strong with the impotent / blank shooters.

    14. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those genes must be smart as FUCK to fool a cognizant human into thinking he's made the decision to sacrifice so much personal freedom for the sake of having a child with another human. Fuck, those genes even looked at his fucking bank account balances, determined that they can probably afford it with some trimming here and there, and maybe even realized that it would be a good time to ask his boss's genes for a raise (Which his boss's genes would force his boss to deny the raise, because that would lead to future competition with his own gene's seed, and the boss obviously has no say in the matter!). It makes me wonder -- what makes a gene pair suddenly decide to get up, climb out of its safe spot in the nucleus, travel all the way to the glands where they start punching the glands until the glands excrete what they want the brain to feel, then travel all the way back to their cells, climb back inside the nucleus, and coil up all comfy-cozy...

      If those genes were smart enough to do that, then they're smart enough to realize that YOU are onto them! Too bad you can't hide from your genes! They'll know right where you are, and eliminate you.

      You retarded Fucker.

    15. Re:Why is this a good thing? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You assume humans are rational. Most are not and are great big narcissists in addition. Those with reproductive problems that are rational refrain from giving their children even worse problems than they themselves have and adopt or do without children.

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    16. Re:Why is this a good thing? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, the planet doesn't need more humans, but each generation of humans needs the next generation of humans to take care of it in their senescence. Not that there's likely to be a shortage of new humans in any case.

      On the flip side curing infertility isn't going to make any measurable or perceptible difference in population growth. For that there are two extremely powerful and effective cures: (1) raising the level of economic security so people don't try to procreate their way to a secure old age and (2) raising the status of women to the point where they have other things to do beside take care of children (important as that may be). If overpopulation bothers you, that's where your attention should go.

      So you may as well cure infertility. Yes, there's a cost to overpopulation, but there's a benefit to having a next generation too; but neither is going to be impacted by helping a handful of people obtain the benefits of having children.

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    17. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me why every animal on Earth wants to reproduce then.

      We evolved to reproduce, you spin a story around that fact.

    18. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're so concerned about being taken care of in your decaying years, it would make more sense to work on anti-aging.

    19. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have tried for many years successfully to not have a baby, does that count?

      It was awfully fun trying...

    20. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trusting in evolution to always be right is like trusting in God.

    21. Re:Why is this a good thing? by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >> it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people. ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

      A few years of unsuccessfully trying to have a baby would change your opinion and attitude on the subject.

      A few successes might change yours.

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    22. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

      In the developed world, birth rates are fairly stable (ie every 2 people have less than 2 babies each on average). So the only over-population problem is people in poor countries breeding like rabbits.

    23. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      >> it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people. ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

      A few years of unsuccessfully trying to have a baby would change your opinion and attitude on the subject.

      A few successes might change yours.

      Awesome when a post is interesting, insightful. and funny at the same time. Well played sir, well played indeed!

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    24. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because maybe now we can get religious types to rethink that whole "every sperm is sacred" thing they've got going on. Maybe in a few generations they'll stop opposing contraception, and actually favor taking care of the neighbor in front of them over the potential neighbor that hasn't been constructed yet.

    25. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thinking that evolution can be 'right or 'wrong' is like thinking you are God.

    26. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't deny that there is a chemical imperative to have kids, but it's far from being the only reason to do so. If it were, adoption wouldn't be a thing.

      Raising children is a tremendously rewarding experience. In many cultures, having children is important to care for you in your old age. In some cultures, having someone to inherit your posessions, or to pass on your skills to, is seen as vitally important, even if they aren't genetically related to you. Helping shape the next generation of humans is important. Some people do this by volunteer work or teaching, but by far the biggest influence you can have is to raise children.

      And from a purely game-theory point of view, if all sensible, thoughtful people decide not to have kids, the world will be populated entirely by the kids of thoughtless, selfish and stupid. And we know that those kinds of parents are less likely to produce sensible, thoughtful offspring, creating a never-ending doom spiral of increasingly shallow, self-obsessed people. If you want future generations to be better than us, you have to do your part to bring that about, because other people are unthinkingly making them worse.

    27. Re:Why is this a good thing? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Nobody knows whether it's possible.

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    28. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> it could spur efforts to develop treatments for male infertility in people. ...because the one thing this planet needs is even more humans?

      Stereotypical self-hating human...

    29. Re:Why is this a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We had one success after many years, now the 2nd will probably be adopted so we don't go through all that again.

  6. or... by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    perhaps one of the male lab assistants had a sense of humour and was left alone in the lab for a while.

    1. Re:or... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      If he's making mouse sperm, it's a major discovery.

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    2. Re:or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just imagine the babies.

      Furries everywhere are cheering and masturbating.

    3. Re: or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no change.

    4. Re:or... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Just imagine the babies

      We don't have to imagine. We've already seen the first human-rodent hybrid:

      http://inthesetimes.com/images...

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    5. Re:or... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. We could finally make true human-mouse hybrids for those that want offspring, but without all the hassle of human children!

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  7. Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well guys, it took millions of years but we're finally redundant.

    1. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Punko · · Score: 3, Funny

      The only reason females of our species haven't done away with us already, is that we were the only route for children. If we lose that, there is no way they'll put up with us any longer. We're doomed, I tell you, doomed !

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    2. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No more child support, it's not all bad.

    3. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's right.. keep lambasting yourself before women. Make sure the razors are extra sharp you filthy rapist.

    4. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahah I was thinking the same thing.

    5. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Lotana · · Score: 1

      Have no fear, we are still valued for our different approach to problem solving and directness. My friend resigned from an all-female office job after she got sick of all the gossiping and backstabbing going on. In her next job she specifically asked in the interview if there were men on the team.

    6. Re:Men No Longer Needed by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Nah, they'll still need someone to get the lids off jars and kill spiders.

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    7. Re:Men No Longer Needed by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Smart lady.

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    8. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Step right up and become the first lid-opening eunuch. It's not that bad after all the screaming and bleeding is over!

    9. Re:Men No Longer Needed by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What's that whooshing sound I hear?

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    10. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      The only reason females of our species haven't done away with us already, is that we were the only route for children. If we lose that, there is no way they'll put up with us any longer. We're doomed, I tell you, doomed !

      That and the fact we can smash them if they step out of line.

    11. Re:Men No Longer Needed by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      The only reason females of our species haven't done away with us already, is that we were the only route for children. If we lose that, there is no way they'll put up with us any longer. We're doomed, I tell you, doomed !

      What makes you think that men currently *are* the only route for children? A single man, throughout his life, can provide sperm cells for hundreds of thousands of women, yet we haven't gotten to that state yet?

      The ability to grow sperm cells won't suddenly make women think "Oh - I don't need a man to have a child" because they already have that option, and yet are not choosing it.

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    12. Re:Men No Longer Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And ladies are noisy as hell too...As a men I just ask to see the place where I will work, as otherwise I will be a damn "sexist".

  8. Great, one less reason for males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Men already get zero say in any reproductive rights (except the right to say yes to paying child support OR ELSE). We're sexist, responsible for every evil in the world, and totally unworthy of promotion, hiring, outreach, scholarships, etc. May as well take away our last contribution to the world so you can do away with us entirely.

    1. Re:Great, one less reason for males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, of course - but just for WHITE men.

    2. Re:Great, one less reason for males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the plan. Feminine people are less likely to resist authority and are more willing to accept abuse from it so long as they are provided for.

    3. Re:Great, one less reason for males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to be all whiny about things like this, is it any wonder people want to get rid of you?

    4. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Never heard of a vasectomy, have you? If you don't want to father kids, then it's your responsibility to ensure it doesn't happen, not hers.

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    5. Re:Great, one less reason for males by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Never heard of a vasectomy, have you? If you don't want to father kids, then it's your responsibility to ensure it doesn't happen, not hers.

      Sounds like a good argument against abortion too.

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    6. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Yep - all those fundies who are against abortion need to get their tubes snipped (male AND female. We don't need any more Duggar clans.

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    7. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Yep - all those fundies who are against abortion need to get their tubes snipped (male AND female. We don't need any more Duggar clans.

      Actually all those *women* who don't want abortions should get their tubes snipped - men get no say in abortion.

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    8. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Never heard of a vasectomy, have you? If you don't want to father kids, then it's your responsibility to ensure it doesn't happen, not hers.

      If she doesn't want to have kids, then it's her responsibility to ensure it doesn't happen - I don't know when she ovulates, she does.

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    9. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Sure men get a say in abortion - you don't make a baby, there's no abortion. Or did you miss sex ed? :-)

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    10. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You miss the point - even if she wants kids, you still have the option of not having any by a simple snip-snip. After all, you might not know when she ovulates, but you know when you cum, and the potential consequences. And you know what we call people who use ovulation date as a birth control method? Parents.

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    11. Re:Great, one less reason for males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure men get a say in abortion - you don't make a baby, there's no abortion. Or did you miss sex ed? :-)

      Sorry, sex-ed, from what I've seen and heard absolutely does not preach abstinence. Sex-ed is also very clearr that abortion is fully the woman's decision.

    12. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Okay, that has got to be one of the stupidest AC comments I've ever seen. I'm not even going to reply to what you wrote except to say that if you want a reply, log in. Otherwise, DIAF :-)

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    13. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      You miss the point - even if she wants kids, you still have the option of not having any by a simple snip-snip. After all, you might not know when she ovulates, but you know when you cum, and the potential consequences. And you know what we call people who use ovulation date as a birth control method? Parents.

      Even if I want kids, she still has more options than I do: she can snip, use an IUD, take a pill, refuse sex-without-a-condom, take a morning after pill or, as a final resort, terminate.

      She has three more options than I do, so why are you stating that's its the guys responsibility? Are you presuming that all women are too stupid to practice birth control, hence the guy must practice abstinence? Why not ask the female to practice abstinence?

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    14. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. You are responsible.for your sperm. If you don't want kids, it is only your responsibility because it your body. Same with women, it is their body, their choices, if she doesn't

      Why should someone else be responsible for your fertility? Also, if you can't control yourself, go fap yourself looking at porn. Problem solved. Or get ready to pay child support for the next couple of decades. Your decision. A woman isn't just a bucket for your cum. You sound like a horny teenager. Grow up, because right now you don't need to worry about birth control - your personality is more than sufficient.

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    15. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. You are responsible.for your sperm. If you don't want kids, it is only your responsibility because it your body. Same with women, it is their body, their choices, if she doesn't

      Why should someone else be responsible for your fertility?

      You deny women agency over their own body. If they get pregnant, you say it can't be their responsibility.

      Also, if you can't control yourself, go fap yourself looking at porn. Problem solved. Or get ready to pay child support for the next couple of decades. Your decision. A woman isn't just a bucket for your cum. You sound like a horny teenager. Grow up, because right now you don't need to worry about birth control - your personality is more than sufficient.

      Jokes on you. Since this year I've got custody and she's paying me child support. By what you just said, if she didn't want to be on the hook for child support she should have just kept her legs closed or used a vibrator, right? She should have controlled herself if she didn't want to pay child support, right?

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    16. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Fuck you, troll. I also said that women have control of their body and their choices. Grow up (oops - too late). The courts will say it's both your responsibilities, so both of you pay, and that's how it should be.

      And yes, if she didn't want this to happen, she could have told you to go screw yourself instead of sleeping with you. Or just demonstrated better taste in men.

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    17. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Fuck you, troll. I also said that women have control of their body and their choices. Grow up (oops - too late). The courts will say it's both your responsibilities, so both of you pay, and that's how it should be.

      That s quite a change from your oft-pronounced usual opinion. You always say it's the man's responsibility for kids, you even repeat that opinion in this thread.

      And yes, if she didn't want this to happen, she could have told you to go screw yourself instead of sleeping with you. Or just demonstrated better taste in men.

      This may or may not come as a surprise to you, but women in general have the freedom to sleep with whoever they want to. Trying to slut-shame them when they favour men like me is bound to backfire.

      Besides, I've been married more than once, to beautiful and highly qualified women. It's a fantasy of yours that someone like me begs for sex.

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    18. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I never said that, asshole. I said that if a man doesn't want kids, he has to take precautions, same as the woman. The two are not mutually exclusive.

      Never said anyone couldn't sleep with anyone else, except kids and people who don't want to sleep with them. However, your attitude that it's the woman who should bear all the responsibility is misogynistic. That you don;t see it just means that you're an asshole.

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    19. Re:Great, one less reason for males by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      I never said that, asshole. I said that if a man doesn't want kids, he has to take precautions, same as the woman. The two are not mutually exclusive.

      This is my post that you disagreed with upthread:

      If she doesn't want to have kids, then it's her responsibility to ensure it doesn't happen

      Good thing slashdot doesn't allow editing of posts, it's still for you to read.

      Never said anyone couldn't sleep with anyone else, except kids and people who don't want to sleep with them.

      No, you hypocrite, you just judged them for their sexual choices when you said:

      Or just demonstrated better taste in men.

      You want to be judged for your sexual choices? You think slut-shaming I a good thing?

      However, your attitude that it's the woman who should bear all the responsibility is misogynistic. T

      I never said nor implied that. I said women have more options. I never said that it's the women's responsibility, I repeatedly pointed out that the women simply have more options. That's a fact.

      hat you don;t see it just means that you're an asshole.

      I might be an asshole, but I get laid whenever I want to, usually with whoever I want to. Maybe it's because I don't go around judging others. Your bitterness over sexual freedoms suggest that perhaps you should get out once in a while, because it's usually those people who have unsatisfying sexual lives who are the loudest in denouncing other people's sexual lives.

      You've spen this whole thread telling me how poor my sex life must be, or how poor a females taste must be to want to sleep with me and I never, until now, even responded to those remarks. You're displaying an insane amount of frustration.

      oh, yeah, BTW I had satisfying sex last night, and am preparing to receive satisfying sex now. Remember that, while you type out your frustration into a vitriolic response to this, all alone, later tonight while I am getting it on :-)

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    20. Re:Great, one less reason for males by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1
      I made it quite clear that if EITHER doesn't want to have kids, it is each individuals responsibility to take the necessary precautions. Only a fool would assume that the other person is telling the truth when they said they had a vasectomy or were on the pill. Get a clue.

      Same as the rest of your post is also garbage and lies.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  9. Um, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are SEVEN BILLION of us already here, and we are adding TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND more people, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY!!!!

    ENOUGH!

    1. Re:Um, why? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      There are SEVEN BILLION of us already here, and we are adding TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND more people, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY!!!!

      ENOUGH!

      I think I have identified the problem :-)

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  10. Well, so much for that business plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I guess if people can just grow mouse sperm on demand, I might as well shut down the factory. I suppose it's for the best, I never could get the shipping issues worked out.

    1. Re:Well, so much for that business plan by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 2

      Oh, so you're where all those old mouse balls went...

  11. Takes the men out of the equation by da_guy2 · · Score: 1

    This is probably a great thing for lesbian couples trying to conceive. No more going to sperm bank and picking out some random stranger to be the father of your kids. Now just make sperm from your partners stem cells.

    1. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly. With machines, powertools and the like, women really have no need for man anymore. Soon, not even to breed.

    2. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by slew · · Score: 1

      This is probably a great thing for lesbian couples trying to conceive. No more going to sperm bank and picking out some random stranger to be the father of your kids. Now just make sperm from your partners stem cells.

      Or single women who want to marry themselves...
      Why would such a woman want to have any random child, if they could have themselves as a child?

      Maybe we should stop this line of discussion before George Lucas's lawyers start chiming in...

    3. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by da_guy2 · · Score: 1

      Actually.. Randall Munroe (xkcd.com) discusses the genetic implications of this in his book What if? https://whatif.xkcd.com/book/ . Kinda scary.

    4. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      They can already create a new (female) child out of just two eggs.. Heck, that was from the 80s, likely on "That's Incredible".

    5. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly. With machines, powertools and the like, women really have no need for man anymore. Soon, not even to breed.

      Yea? And who will make those machines, powertools and the like?

      Women: don't need men. Except to do all the hard and icky work that's too gross, strenuous or requires long hours of hard, logical and rational thinking.

    6. Re:Takes the men out of the equation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because misogynistic hatred is ever so logical and rational.

  12. chinese researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    any similar results from countries that don't fabricate the vast majority of their findings in the biological sciences?

  13. grow your own evidence by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    for the rape kit. a little gene mod here/a little there...profit!

    1. Re:grow your own evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what's the court gonna do with 300 little Cosby's?

  14. I can't wait by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

    I, for one, welcome the new tidal wave of science fiction, social justice flamewars, and legislation that follows this. This is so promising, I may buy popcorn futures.

    Mz. Sheldon, your future has arrived.

  15. Pretty impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon, you'll be able to make dinner at home on the cheap!

  16. Worrying by Bruce66423 · · Score: 1

    There is a nasty strand within feminism that regards all men as inherently evil. The prospect of being able to finally declare us redundant is therefore quite attractive to such people.This story is about one who had an abortion just because it was a boy http://www.inquisitr.com/18276...

    1. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This story is about one who had an abortion just because it was a boy.

      Looks like a fictional story to me, but I'm not going to "like" something just to be allowed to read it.

    2. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NoScript FTW !
      Don't underestimate the stupidity of some people.

      Feminist Aborts Baby Because It Was A Boy: 'Something I Wouldn't Wish On My Worst Enemy,' She Says

      A feminist aborted a baby after learning it was a boy. The woman known as “Lana” wrote about her experience on Injustice Stories, which has put her on the receiving end of blistering criticism and several death threats.

      The woman explains that she was ready to become a mother even though she didn’t know who the father of her baby was. When she found out she was pregnant in 2012, she contemplated for about a month whether she was truly ready.

      Things changed drastically when some pivotal events occurred in Lana’s life that made the feminist choose to abort her baby because it was a boy. She had a negative confrontation with a man while flying to San Francisco on her way to an Occupy Wall Street rally that had a huge impact on her decision because he told her she should “know” her place.

      As her pregnancy led to the fifth month, Lana had envisioned giving birth to a baby girl. When the doctor told her she was having a boy, she had a meltdown.

      “I was in shock, I started crying, weeping at the thought of what I was about to curse the world with,” Lana wrote.

      She raged on in her post after a male driver asked her if she was alright on the way home. He noticed her being visibly upset.

              “I couldn’t bring another monster into the world. We already have enough enemies as it is. It didn’t matter that I would be raising a son, he would still come into contact with boys, men, perhaps even the suit jockey who would inevitably twist his carefully constructed upbringing with their kindness. He would think ‘These men aren’t so bad, why would mom say that they are holding me down?’ Not all men are bad, my driver showed genuine concern for my well-being that day and I may have taken my anger out on him. That may have been uncalled for. But I knew what I had to do.”

      In a follow-up post by Lana on the site, she defends having the abortion even saying a baby boy was the worst thing in the world.

              “If the curse returns, I would do the exact same thing all over again.”

      This feminist who had an abortion because she was carrying a boy now has a 1-year-old daughter — and hopes she’ll be as strong and driven as she is when she becomes an adult. Lana was relieved that her body didn’t “betray” her in her last pregnancy. She doesn’t regret aborting an unborn child just because he was a boy.

              “To me, the experience was liberating, the emotions I felt when deciding what I should do, and after learning my fetus was male was something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Coming out of it a liberated woman though was more than worth it. If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat.”

      How do you feel about a feminist who aborts a baby because she finds out she’s having a boy?

    3. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ok cause there is a strand within humanism that follow the three rules:
      1. Women are Evil
      2. Men are Stupid
      3. Beer is Good

    4. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The male determines the sex...

    5. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I predict one of three outcomes from that child.

      1) It grows up to be a lesbian (and probably closet straight or bi-sexual) due to the damage her mother will end up doing to her mentally while raising her.

      2) The child grows up to hate their mother and will spend a large portion of her life being persecuted for her mothers behavior and grows up to reject her mother and try to be a proper parent, assuming she doesn't commit suicide over all the crap she will get over her mother.

      3) The mother is ruled mentally unstable and an unfit parent due to these events and her child is taken from her and given to a foster family who can properly raise here. This is what needs to happen.

      Related post: If men are such monsters, why does she keep fucking them?

    6. Re:Worrying by macs4all · · Score: 1

      That's ok cause there is a strand within humanism that follow the three rules: 1. Women are Evil 2. Men are Stupid 3. Beer is Good

      Todd Rundgren said (sang) it best...

    7. Re:Worrying by gweihir · · Score: 1

      No real problem. Most women are actually fine with how things are set up gender-wise. A minority of loud female fascists does not a real problem make. May just take a while for the rest to wise up about them.

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    8. Re:Worrying by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Well, I knew a woman who had an abortion because the baby was going to be the wrong color, so her husband would have known she was cheating. People are strange.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    9. Re:Worrying by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You can't "convert" someone to become a lesbian. Or straight, for that matter. Sexual attraction is fixed before birth.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    10. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't "convert" someone to become a lesbian. Or straight, for that matter. Sexual attraction is fixed before birth.

      Of all the bizarre ideas you have about gender and sexuality, that one is weirdest. Even Kinsey suggested otherwise.

      http://link.springer.com/artic...

      http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com...

      http://www.tandfonline.com/doi...

      Your argument has been made much of by people seeking legal change in the status of gays/lesbians but it has shall we say a more complicated relation with actual scientific fact.

    11. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those same feminists are also highly opposed to getting dirt under their fingernails or doing any kind of work that seems hard, and therefore all work as professional complainers.

      I don't think men and reasonable women will be out of a job any time soon.

    12. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And therein lies the rub- a growing percentage of men aren't.

      Justified or not, that loud minority has made significant inroads, and more men are taking notice and applying themselves otherwise.

      Something like men and women not needing each other to procreate is just enough to trash present civilization.

    13. Re:Worrying by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of psychiatrists disagrees with you. So, who am I going to listen to - some crank on the Internet who cites a viewpoint that was disproved by empirical evidence? I think not. Go peddle your bible crap somewhere else.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    14. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, some psychiatrists said so? Okay then.

      Let me know when the geneticists and neuroscientists have something to show on the topic.

    15. Re:Worrying by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Oh, some psychiatrists said so? Okay then.

      Let me know when the geneticists and neuroscientists have something to show on the topic.

      They already have weighed in as well, and they're on board. Don't believe it - do your own research. Go suck wind, pound sand, or whatever ignorant losers like you do.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  17. Have you looked in my fridge?!?? by jddj · · Score: 1

    You can grow ANYTHING in a dish!

  18. Only good for opening jars by tekrat · · Score: 1

    And fixing the washing machine. That's about it guys. Other than that we are no longer needed by women.

    Us guys need to get Boston Dynamics to develop the ultimate sex-bot, and then men and women can forevermore go their separate ways....

    --
    If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
    1. Re:Only good for opening jars by slew · · Score: 1

      And fixing the washing machine. That's about it guys. Other than that we are no longer needed by women.

      Us guys need to get Boston Dynamics to develop the ultimate sex-bot, and then men and women can forevermore go their separate ways....

      Ah, the givers of pain and delight...
      You can't live with them and apparently (w/o advanced technology), you can't live w/o them.

    2. Re:Only good for opening jars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, there's plenty of other things. Like unclogging drains, taking out the garbage, mowing the lawn and killing spiders. I feel my future is all but secured.

    3. Re:Only good for opening jars by darthsilun · · Score: 2

      If my wife had to pay the mortgage – on her income alone––

      Yeah, I feel pretty secure.

    4. Re:Only good for opening jars by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      If my wife had to pay the mortgage – on her income alone–– Yeah, I feel pretty secure.

      You do realize just how pathetic what you just wrote is, don't you?

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    5. Re:Only good for opening jars by darthsilun · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the truth hurts! And get a sense of humor. Ever hear of "black humor." Yeah, it's a thing. Look it up. Also sarcasm.

    6. Re:Only good for opening jars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is a thing called divorce...where you will be destitute and will keep paying for her style of life.

    7. Re:Only good for opening jars by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the truth hurts! And get a sense of humor. Ever hear of "black humor." Yeah, it's a thing. Look it up. Also sarcasm.

      Oh, I got's me a sense of hoomer. You're still kinda pathetic. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  19. Wanna a green-eyed baby? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sell semen, it's $9,99 the dozen. But I only sell under wholesale. Call 0800-marcello.

  20. Brave New World...?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aldous Huxley would jump with joy at this news....

  21. One MAJOR issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have read they have already figured out how to make Stem Cells from Blood and Skin. This could very effectively be used to impregnate a woman with a mans sperm against his will without him even knowing about it and it still genetically being his.

    A woman at that point could possibly get sperm from a man without his consent or knowledge and then use that child as a golden ticket against them.

    Imagine some of the more gold digging or obsessive women getting pregnant with an actors or otherwise rich figures sperm generated from some of his skin or blood only to then attempt to hit him up for child support claiming they had a one night stand or other such event.

    May even have black market services selling such samples of famous figures so they can have Brad Pitts, Stephen Amells, or some others child. Doubly so when you see a woman doing this behind her husbands back so she can be married to a provider and then having some famous mans child and claiming it was his.

    1. Re:One MAJOR issue. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      A woman at that point could possibly get sperm from a man without his consent or knowledge and then use that child as a golden ticket against them.

      There was a Law & Order episode about EXACTLY this!

  22. Does this require the Y chromosome? by niaxilin · · Score: 1

    If this doesn't require the Y chromosome, then it could pave the way for female-only reproduction.

    I'm male, but I have no qualms with the continuation of our species being without the Y chromosome (males). It's not an affront to my gender identity to wonder if the future would be better off that way. I'm not talking about killing off the males; just not making any more.

    We should keep some male sperm frozen behind a glass door: "Break in case of extreme reproductive emergency."

    1. Re:Does this require the Y chromosome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or we could go the other route and turn it into an egg and use machines to act as a uterus and breed out the women. While I am a heterosexual male, I could still see this as being an equally viable alternative.

      Sure, an all female society would end up being much more gratifying sexually as women tend to have more homosexual tendencies in women as far as I have seen. But sex bots or fleshlights could always remedy that one.

      But if I had to breed out a gender, I would rather go with the ones that like to play mind games more often.I would much prefer a more straight forward societal structure.

      Captcha: diverge

  23. chinese researchers..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "artificial" sperm + genetic manipulation = boys, more boys, and the future chinese army of "purebred" warriors.

  24. Every stem cell is sacred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now try to produce them without the stem cell.

  25. in vitro breeding (livestock, pets, conservation) by staalmannen · · Score: 1

    This is very cool and could potentially be extremely useful in animal breeding for livestock, pets or conservation biology. Basically, differentiate stem cells into eggs and sperm, cross, differentiate the new stem cells and repeat. A cool thing in animal breeding is that this could overcome species barriers, so traits could be introgressed by crossing species where the first generation offspring normally would have been sterile.

  26. Our Ford by pullphinger · · Score: 1

    I can't need to stop reading these post. Now where did I put my soma...... ?

  27. Wonderful by ronmon · · Score: 1

    Millions of babies without fathers is just what the world needs.

    1. Re:Wonderful by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just wait until the women who've used this realize that there's nobody around for them to stick with child support.

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  28. Helping the machines by skaag · · Score: 1

    Good, by the time the machines rule humans, we'll have all of that information on how to clone human batteries ready for them.

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    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... time... to... die...

  29. Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In thus began the history of another vestigial appendage.

  30. men are obsolete. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    news at 11.

  31. And Donald Trump can't win... by Bruce66423 · · Score: 1

    I hope you're right. The joy of being a pessimist is that you get pleasantly surprised when the worst doesn't happen

  32. 6 males by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... develop treatments for male infertility in people.

    It supposedly takes only 6 males to father a species, so, as Slashdotters have noticed, this results in the male gender being functionally obsolete. But society has known how to fertilize an egg for three decades, so female-only reproduction is possible but isn't a commercially-available service. Women watch romantic movies and get married instead. The reason romantic movies don't end with test-tube babies is firstly, the instinct for heterosexual pairing; secondly, because the moral of the movie is, a stalking male will change his behaviour and priorities to appease a female ego.

  33. Sdish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, my mother was a bit of a dish.

  34. #KillAllMen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, looks like the genocide of the male gender is one step closer.

    It's far easier for elites to control women through apparent social norms...

    And lest you think me in jest, there are many feminists clamoring for just this sort of technology for years; Meanwhile, artificial wombs are taboo.

  35. Not new by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Not new.
    A google search for sperm in a dish shows a huge number of links for ... oh dear.

  36. Pfft. Amateurs! by Chas · · Score: 1

    I can grow sperm!

    No dish required!

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  37. This is very old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any angry waiter can testify to it.

  38. Coming to a take-away near you by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Well, I knew that the Chinese have some exotic things on the menu, but this one is a bit novel, all the same.

  39. Sperm in a dish eh? by dhaen · · Score: 1

    Is that because there's so much porn on satellite TV?

  40. I read that as Spam by trevc · · Score: 1

    I was disappointed when I realized they were not growing Spam.