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Another Windows 10 Update Causing Problems (windowsreport.com)
New submitter sexconker writes: The recently-released cumulative update for Windows 10 (KB3140743) is reportedly causing problems. Symptoms include crashes, BSODs, and the inability to boot, even in safe mode. The Windows 10 subreddit has many threads detailing the inability to boot. The only fix seems to be booting to a recovery ISO, uninstalling the update / rolling back, and hoping you don't get hit again. W10Privacy 2 claims to be able to (among other things) give Windows 10 users control over the automatic updates.
After the Win 8 mess, I'm sure Microsoft is hugely focused on reliability, and yet a series of errors with updates like this happen. Are they hitting a wall of unmanageable complexity? I ask this seriously - not as a Msft hater or as a troll, but I really wonder how/why it seems 10 is struggling. I no longer use Windows so maybe I'm missing out on something obvious to people more knowledgeable.
Don't step on the baby.
Never to return. Literally. I left the company in 2011. They were in utter turmoil and apparently still are. They missed the boat on mobile, ruined Nokia, produced a bad run of OSes, introduced privacy nightmares. Now, happy FreeBSD/OpenBSD user.
It really looks like MS needs to rethink the "You are going to take these updates no matter what" concept. I really feel for anybody that is running 10 and actually needs their computer to be reliable.
First they trick millions of people into "upgrading", then they consistently break their computers. The only good thing I can say about Windows 10 at this point is that it has increased my income. I could, at this point, change my entire business model to reverting computers to prior versions of Windows. I spend most of my time doing that now.
So, Satya, how's laying off your entire QA department working out for you?
"If there was a gay Afro-Puertorican Linux distribution, I'd give it a try" ~lucm
When you have to resort to third-party programs to restore and control basic OS functionality, and to stop your own computer from spying on you, then said OS has truly and irrevocably jumped the shark. It's time to bury Windows in a deep, dark hole, remember it for all the good stuff it brought to computing, try to forget about all the shit it foisted upon unsuspecting users, and move on to a less self-serving and traitorous alternative. Die, Microsoft - just die. Please.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
A few months ago the motherboard in my living room PC died. I went to the extra effort and expense to get a copy of W7OEM when I got the new MB/CPU at Fry's. And since Microsoft can no longer be trusted with their automatic updates, either you get 6 gigabytes of W10 silently dumped on your hard drive, or your computer gets bricked now, so I have updates completely turned off. I don't use the computer for internets and it's the token Windows box (AVI/MP4 videos and a couple of specific games) in my inside LAN full of OS X and Linux, so I'm more worried about a bad MS update than I am about getting hacked.
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Windows 10 will sell more Apple gear than Donald Trump.
I was at a conference last year : an important speaker was scheduled to be the first one of the day.
He comes to the stage with his laptop (Windows 7), starts it up, and screams in disgust at the screen "Please do not power off your machine. Installing updates 1 from bazillion". He didn't have any copy of his powerpoint on a flash drive, and we didn't have Internet access.
No biggie, he switched place with the 2nd speaker. After the presentation, the update process still wasn't finished. Then came the 3rd speaker. After almost an hour, the speaker told us "Shoot, I should've hold the presentation without my laptop, now I've got a plane to catch. Well, see you next year!"
THIS is why Windows Updates NEEDS to be under end-user control.
Because with mandatory updates, like this one, killing systems, Windows Updates becomes the world's first compulsory malware delivery system.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
I suppose the telemetry can't run if the machine is unbootable.
We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
At least I had a stable wireless connection with 8.1. When I installed 10, it worked for awhile, but after several updates, it stopped working. A reboot would restore it for a short time then it crapped out. I had hoped the new version would fix it but, if anything, it made it worse to the point where I have to operate with a cable if I want to connect. In addition, they still didn't fix the problem where my custom mouse profile won't load automatically at boot time. Every boot, I have to go to the mouse settings panel and manually select my custom profile. Every fucking time.
Damn, I miss XP
It's not slow. Your connection to the Internet is slow and it's having a hard time sending everything you do to Microsoft.
It's the 21st century, an operating system should be able to multitask. Should also be able to load DLLs, EXEs etc into memory and keep using them while replacing the binaries on disk, all in the background, at idle priority, and at the end ask whether to reboot now or later. And of course a laptop should be able to sleep or hibernate rather then shutting down in the middle of an update.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
You can pull all of the telemetry "updates" without sacrificing the rest. It helps to actually read the descriptions of the updates you're installing. They're not all that cryptic. If it it's an update to "cusotmer experience", "telemetry" or "windows update", don't check the box and hide the update.
PC master race reddit has a good summary of older ones here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmas...
There have been a couple of newer telemetry updates since then. Read what you're installing. Since win7 is not receiving any updates other than security, telemetry BS and windows update BS, it's not even all that much reading.
"Are they hitting a wall of unmanageable complexity?" No, my view is that Microsoft has hit a wall built of many years of technically incompetent top management.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was called "Monkey Boy". The January 16, 2013 issue of BusinessWeek magazine has a large photo of Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer (now replaced by Satya Nadella) with the headline calling him "Monkey Boy". See the BusinessWeek cover in this article: Steve Ballmer Is No Longer A Monkey Boy, Says Bloomberg BusinessWeek. The BusinessWeek cover says "No More" and "Mr.", but that doesn't take much away from the fact that the magazine called Ballmer "Monkey Boy" -- on its cover.
Worst CEO in the United States: Quote from an article in Forbes Magazine about Steve Ballmer: "Without a doubt, Mr. Ballmer is the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company today."
Another quote: "The reach of his bad leadership has extended far beyond Microsoft when it comes to destroying shareholder value -- and jobs." (May 12, 2012)
Who would want to work for "Monkey Boy"? Microsoft is apparently not able to hire socially competent people. Apparently Satya Nadella was chosen because he was the least annoying person. However, he does not seem to me to be the kind of person who can handle the enormous conflicts inside Microsoft.
This is my guess: Someone at Microsoft said, "Google and Facebook are collecting data about customers and selling it; let's do that also." So Windows 8 was designed to try to sell "Apps", as though Windows was a particularly trashy cell phone operating system. I was shocked when I first saw the Windows 8.1 GUI. Utterly incompetent. Now Windows 10 is apparently trying to imitate Google Android, which has become more and more invasive.
People who have work to do have already learned the GUIs they need. Even if the design is imperfect, that's what they know. They don't want wild changes.
It's scary. In the last few months, Windows 10 has been shown again and again to be sloppily designed and implemented, as well as being spyware.
Judging from comments on Slashdot, people try to find some technical reason for Microsoft's policies. They apparently have difficulty imagining that Microsoft managers are as incompetent as they are.
Some links:
Windows 8: NSA Backdoor Exploit in Windows 8 Uncovered (Aug. 22, 2013)
Windows: NSA "backdoor" mandates lead to a computer-security FREAK show Quote: "Microsoft Windows OS vulnerable to hackers, thanks to National Security Agency requirements." (March 6, 2015)
Windows: NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999 (June 7, 2013)
Windows 10, Microsoft hiding what it is doing: Microsoft has no plans to tell us what's in Windows patches. Quote: "Each update is a black box, and it's going to stay that way." (Aug 21, 2015)
Windows 10, Microsoft takes even more control: Windows 10 is spying on almost everything you do -- here's how to opt out (July 31, 2015) But, of course, Microsoft can change the spyware to a
Better isn't sufficient. You also need compatible with all older programs.
There are a large number of people who are dependent on certain particular programs, and if they stop working the system is useless.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.