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Scientists To Open Mass-Cloning Factory in China This Year To Clone Cows, Pets, Humans (express.co.uk)
An anonymous reader writes: Scientists in China are planning to open a mass-cloning factory by the end of the year. The ambitious and futuristic facility hopes to be mass-producing one million cows every 12 months by 2020. Not only will it clone cattle, but the factory, which will be located in the northern Chinese port of Tianjin, will also cater to more specific needs by genetically engineering police dogs and thoroughbred race horses. It is part of a $21m plan which is backed by the Boyalife group in collaboration with South Korean company Sooam Biotech Research Foundation.
Or are we taking a completely natural world and ruining it with artificial selection?
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And the first thing his clone did was scream at us about how inelegant the process was, and he browbeat several members of the team so badly they jumped off the roof.
April fools was 4 days ago guys...
I guess these clones will all look the same?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
> factory to clone...humans
Because if there's one thing the Chinese are bad at, it's producing more humans.
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No worries, if it's anything like their ordinary QA and product quality.
"Not only will it clone cattle, but the factory, which will be located in the northern Chinese port of Tianjin, will also cater to more specific needs by genetically engineering police dogs and thoroughbred race horses."
It gets a brief mention in the title and then the body focuses on cows, dogs, and horses rather than the part about cloning humans???
Actually checking TFA, it says:
"There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it."
So it sounds like the cloning humans is just a "hey, we could do this at some point" thing, and not part of the initial plan of operation?
In any case, i'm not sure why this is a good solution to a demand for more meat. In the long run (and possibly even the short run) doing a little more research and building a cultured meat factory would probably be a lot more cost effective than cloning the entire cow.
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SMACX come alive.
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Should have voiced it with Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
I can't see the point in cloning cows. Artificial insemination works well enough, is less expensive, and they will need a cow to serve as the mother anyway.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
How do the bloodlines advance though. I can see why we would want more high-end racehorses, but I thought the real point was to breed a better horse, not level the paying field through some kind of horse formula-1 uniformity.
Nullius in verba
Title is nothing if not a complete lie for the sake of being clickbait. The "article" itself about matches it for quality.
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discovered it, last night. I couldn't even, believe my eyes.
If Hitler's cock could start to talk, it would say: To kill today.
If Hitler's cock could choose it's mate, it would ask, for Sharon Tate!
They saved Hitler's cock. They stuffed it in Mengele's sock.
They saved Hitler's cock, and now it wants to talk.
Now it's starting to get hard, I found it in my backyard.
Every night it kills a dog, and now it wants, some night and fog
Hitler's cock is on the move, and now I'm scared of what it's gonna do!
Although, I guess Trump would prefer a song centered around the word, "Schlong".
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I feel for those grieving the loss of a pet, but cloning won't bring their pet back. Cloning just creates a genetically identical (except mt-DNA) copy. Remember that individuals come with individual personalities, and even this will diverge based on individual experiences. There is no known way to clone a soul (for lack of a better term).
We need more of them in Las Vegas.
Yeah sure go ahead and call me flamebait, because the goram Chinese are just so perfect and careful with everything they do, what could possibly go wrong? In their headlong rush to beat the West at everything and become the predominant political and military power in the world, they wouldn't dream of taking any shortcuts or taking any big risks now would they? After all they're just so peaceful and benevolent, absolute advocates of human and civil rights, freedom of speech, respectful of the borders and territories of neighboring countries, and wouldn't even dream of harming so much as a single fly!
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1) A human can live after donating a kidney, lung, pancreas, bone marrow, or liver.
2) There are a lot of diseases that slowly affect those organs. A prime example is IgA Nepropathy can take 27 years from first affecting your kidneys, till you need a transplant.
3) Imagine you discover that your 10 year old child has IgA Nepropahty and that they will need a new kidney sometime in 10-30 years. You can clone them today, ensuring a healthy kidney without any immune suppression drugs,, or wait and hope they get a donated kidney from a stranger and immune suppression drugs.
Damn right you will clone her. Hell, I would clone her even if she was 20 years old. (If she was 30, I'd tell her to raise her own child.).
Yes there should be laws preventing abuse of this technology. But don't tell the parents of a child with a deadly disease that we know how to treat her but we won't do it because of fear of abuse.
Personally, if I wanted to have kids, I'd rather get a matched set of clones. Just for the extra medical capabilities it offers.
For example, if one person gets an Immune disease, you could wipe out their current immune system and give them a new bone marrow implant from the healthy clone.
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On there other hand it does't matter if we die more often if we just resume living from our Gold Cross backup clone.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Is a specific cow, or pet that special? And if so, why on *earth* would you think a cloned one would act the same?
And people... there are these people called "twins", or "triplets", etc, and they all turn out differently. What would you expect to get by cloning someone?
And it's a long term thing, if you're cloning your favorite movie star, or politician...
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Selective breeding is analogous to using mother nature's tools, within mother nature's workshop, to guide the otherwise natural course of evolution. That's precisely why human beings have been able to do it for ages: because it relies on nothing more than mother nature.
Genetic engineering is something entirely different. Clearly, genetic engineering does NOT use mother nature's tools, but rather a toolkit which isn't found anywhere in nature. And clearly, genetic engineering does NOT work within the rules of mother nature's workshop, but rather outside of them completely. This is precisely why human beings have not been able to do this until very recently in the course of our technical evolution: because it requires much more than mother nature's toolkit and workshop.
The two procedures aren't even remotely comparable, even if they do attempt to achieve a similar goal. Note that I haven't actually spoken out against genetic engineering here. I've only laid out a common-sense argument why genetic engineering isn't comparable to selective breeding.
Oh, wait, multiply by five to take into account that it's done by non-US scientists and engineers.
I think your factor of five is very low. There is no thicket of TLA's to navigate in China — OSHA, NLRB, EPA, FDA, etc. — just grease the right palms and hit the go button. Even more than that you have to consider the legal risk; anyone involved with this in a developed Western nation would find themselves in front of congressional committees or parliaments and subject to a barrage of legal challenges by who knows how many pressure groups. Individual scientists would be demonized by academe. I think an industrial cloning operation is politically infeasible in the US or any part of Europe.
I find this all rather amusing. We've built this industrial, scientific and financial monster in Asia with our trade regime while simultaneously feathering our environmental regulatory regime at home and fostering this anti-industry, anti-energy, anti-anything-more-impactful-than-a-hobby-farm mentality. It turns out the monster we've created couldn't care less about our finely honed sensitives and is going to fill the world with cloned food.
Brilliant. Go China.
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They have to perfect their techniques on critters, then they can work on creating a super army of clones. I bet 3 cats that China, and I assume 4 or 5 other countries, ARE working on human clones in a laboratory away from public eye. Its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN. You didn't think they were just throwing those aborted fetuses in a trash can did you?
Great way to make soldiers, though, especially if you can figure a viral way to make them deficient in forebrain.
Begun the clone war has.
Would we get these?
The Chinese really do copy everything don't they?
Another lousy headline, including the headline on TFA. Deeper in the article it says that there are no current plans to clone humans. I also love the picture in TFA, which has a caption about cloning cows but shows a line of people.
Come to think of it ...
mmmm....cloned meat!
The flat-earthers can't touch a project when it's built in China. The new AP-1000s are going in there. This is where the Thirty Meter telescope should be built.
Has anyone seen Temuera Morrison recently?
I know an awful lot of really smart American military guys. I know a lot of stupid ones too, but there are way lots of smart military men.
Go veg.
The headline is misleading; from the article: "There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it." Time for a Sixth Day law.
BTW, there's a possibly more reputable article (from Dec 2015, but basically same content) here: http://phys.org/news/2015-12-c...
Made in China.
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