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PayPal Pulls North Carolina Plan After Transgender Bathroom Law (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: PayPal Holdings Inc on Tuesday canceled plans to open a global operations center in Charlotte, North Carolina and invest $3.6 million in the area after the state passed a controversial law targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) citizens. In a letter on March 29, founders and chief executives of more than a hundred companies, including Apple Inc, Twitter Inc, and Alphabet Inc urged North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory to repeal the legislation. PayPal is one of the first companies to protest the controversial measure requiring people to use bathrooms or locker rooms in schools and other public facilities that match the gender on their birth certificate rather than their gender identity. "The new law perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and principles that are at the core of PayPal's mission and culture," Chief Executive Officer Dan Schulman said in a statement. PayPal's original plan was to open the operations center in Charlotte and employ 400 skilled workers there.

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  1. LGB ? by yet+another+SanTiago · · Score: 5, Interesting

    area after the state passed a controversial law targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) citizens

    I see how the law is targeting transgender people, but how the law is targeting lesbian, gay or bisexual people?

    1. Re:LGB ? by Sowelu · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The summary and article leave out the fact that this law bans local jurisdictions from offering any LGBT protections beyond what the state does, which is "none". Cities had local laws saying, for example, you couldn't refuse to rent to a gay couple just because they were gay...those city laws are now struck from the books by state mandate.

    2. Re:LGB ? by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Presumably you are published.

      Social studies have the highest rate of unreproducible results of any, being essential bias confirmation.

  2. a shot across the bow has been made by nimbius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    for those who think this isnt an egregious concern for the state of North Carolina, they very much do have a lot to lose.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    The Research Triangle Park (RTP) is one of the largest research parks in the world, but its been largely a pearl in an otherwise very salty oyster. Its home to Cisco, Redhat, Microsoft, and NetApp among others. Governors and statesmen are wrecklessly gambling with this research park in the hopes that pandering to ten million North Carolinians with rhetoric from the culture war is a sustainable or responsible approach to governing their state.

    PayPal has made it very clear: there are 49 other states that will gladly accept our proposition to employ hundreds of high skilled knowledge workers. Your tax incentives are by no means exclusive to the state.

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    1. Re:a shot across the bow has been made by fsckinhippies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am just aiming the cannon the other way. I am a normal person. I represent the people who are pissed off with all the bullshit. If you really want to see why liberal progressivism is a problem you can just disagree with one of their tenants. I have personally experienced it several times. There would not have been an occupy wall street movement without the rage I saw as soon as I disagreed with my brother in law. I know that is a single example, but take some time and just look at the faces of the people involved with some movement. There is rage, not "I disagree with you, lets go smoke a joint rage"...Serious rage.

  3. paypal politics by fche · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember, this is the same company that excludes its users from commerce in legal but politically incorrect products & services.

    https://www.paypal.com/ca/weba...

  4. Thank You by BrendaEM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I started my transition in 1990, I would have never imagined such support and solidarity. Thank you Pay Pal.

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  5. Re:Not just a bathroom law by duckintheface · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The new law (HB2) states that discrimination is not a cause of action in state courts. This reverses a 30 year precedent. The Republicans want to talk about bathrooms because they think (and they are probably right) that most citizens don't even know what a transgender person is. But citizens do know what jobs are.... so when companies like Paypal start reducing jobs in North Carolina, that message will get through. It will be painful to us to lose those jobs, but it is worth it to have a future where discrimination is not state policy.

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  6. Re:Not just a bathroom law by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Federal law has priority over state law and federal law does protect Race, sex, age, national origin and several other categories. The state can't bar these suits though they may be able force these cases into federal court where the legislature can't control the process. Seems pretty stupid on their part.

  7. Re:Blackmail to allow perverted activities? by Ixokai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The anti-discrimination ordinance doesn't allow "some dude to walk in". It allows a transgendered woman to use the bathroom she feels safe in. You want to force her to use the men's bathroom, even though she's been on hormones and might be post-op, and think it would be safe for her in the men's room?

    You want to force a transgendered man to use the women's bathroom? You think a genetically female person, who is on hormone therapy and has facial hair and dresses in men's clothes, would be welcome in the women's bathroom, and would feel comfortable and safe there?

    By your own admission, your wife would object to the latter -- and threaten violence, in fact. You think that's sane or safe?

  8. Anti-Transgender? Try Anti-Father by Howitzer86 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No one is talking about the baby changing station. Think about it. You're a guy. People already look at you funny if you're with your own child and the mother is elsewhere. Now you can't even use the baby changing station, because it's in the women's restroom.

    Or maybe you can, after all, people understand right? Baby needs a new diaper. It's obvious. So you take a chance. You go in, and a nice lady inside smiles at you because she finds the image of a young father with a baby adorable. And so you're in there, changing the babies diaper, you come out and...

    You're surrounded by cops, (or worse, Asset Protection.) Wait, what?

    Onlookers, confused, and trying to fill in the missing data, assume the worst. Because it would be asinine (but correct) to assume it has to do with your chromosomes, they make more reasonable assumptions like, "he stole a baby," and "he's a peeping tom."

    Welcome fathers, to the future! You're now officially a creep until proven otherwise.

  9. Re:You moron by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Interesting

    THAT is why we have separate bathrooms.

    No, it isn't. We have separate public toilets as a remnant of a policy of excluding women from public life and enforcing class divisions. Female public toilets did not exist until the early 20th century and were still rare well into the 20th century.

    Additional fun facts: In West Virginia, women were barred from jury service until 1956 because courthouses didn't have female toilets. In the US Capitol building, there were no toilets for female senators until 1992.

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  10. Re:You moron by dskoll · · Score: 3, Interesting

    2. You do not have the right to trample other people's rights int he process of the above.

    When I go to the ladies' room, I'm not trampling anyone's rights. What the hell are you talking about?

    I've had precisely one comment from a woman in a public washroom. And her comment was: "I really like your necklace."

    And secondly: You and your ilk do not have the right to force me to risk my safety. You do not have the right to make it legal to deny LGBT people housing or employment.