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PayPal Pulls North Carolina Plan After Transgender Bathroom Law (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: PayPal Holdings Inc on Tuesday canceled plans to open a global operations center in Charlotte, North Carolina and invest $3.6 million in the area after the state passed a controversial law targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) citizens. In a letter on March 29, founders and chief executives of more than a hundred companies, including Apple Inc, Twitter Inc, and Alphabet Inc urged North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory to repeal the legislation. PayPal is one of the first companies to protest the controversial measure requiring people to use bathrooms or locker rooms in schools and other public facilities that match the gender on their birth certificate rather than their gender identity. "The new law perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and principles that are at the core of PayPal's mission and culture," Chief Executive Officer Dan Schulman said in a statement. PayPal's original plan was to open the operations center in Charlotte and employ 400 skilled workers there.

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  1. Discrimination against who exactly? by IMightB · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm cool with gay marriage and LBGTWTF rights and all, but I think that this is ridiculous. If you have a penis, use the boys room. If you don't you'll make everyone else in the womens room uncomfortable. Once you get your penis chopped off and a vagina installed, you can use the girls room.

    What if some regular schmuck decides for the lulz to dress up as a women for a day and go all perv in womens room? Is there a statute in the law that says you have to be transgender for a certain amount of time before you can use the womens room? How are you going to prove it?

    At this point why not make all restrooms communal or unisex?

    1. Re:Discrimination against who exactly? by fsckinhippies · · Score: 0, Troll

      Real life says gender at birth. Unless you have some magic that was never known before, your gender is your gender. You can't change that shit.

  2. What are the facts? by schwit1 · · Score: 0, Troll

    The law does NOT prohibit businesses from either having their own policies against LGBT discrimination or from private businesses accommodating transgender customers in whichever bathroom. But it does require schools and government facilities to police their bathrooms and require transgender people to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of the sex listed on their birth certificate.

  3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Maybe according to the Newspeak Wordsbook of the SJW, but not according to a real dictionary. In a real dictionary you'll see that sex and gender are considered synonyms when used in the noun form.

    The simple fact is that I don't "identify as man" because of whatever the hell touchy-feely bullshit you're claiming, I *AM* a man because of the penis and testicles located between my legs. My feelings have nothing to do with it. Were I to "identify as a walrus" I'd STILL be a human male, regardless of whatever insane ramblings I may have on the subject.

  4. Re:Good by mjm1231 · · Score: 0, Troll

    DNA absolutely specifies sex for the vast majority (around 99.9% last I looked) of the people out there. XY is male, XX is female.

    Let's assume you're right. I guess that also means you're right to tell about 7 million people in the world fuck off, go shit in the woods.

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  5. Re:Good by argumentsockpuppet · · Score: 1, Troll

    And really, how does any of this harm you? Are you have secret thoughts that are awakened by someone who has a different view of their gender? Do you need to protect your own gender identity by suppressing someone whose identity is different? What are you afraid of?

    No. I don't have secret thoughts, mostly I have fuzzy ideas and poorly thought out decisions. I have lots of feelings and am aware of them but mostly don't care since I have opinions. I'm an Murican.

    As somebody wise said, "Life isn't easy when you're an adult. You have to think about stuff and it sucks."

    Oh, what do I think? Getting past the baby puppies that make up my concrete arguments, I think two things at once. First, I have a hard time accepting a person's minority status based on what they choose to do rather than the physical characteristics they have no choice in. Second, every time I've encountered facilities designed to welcome people regardless of their situation, it has been a good thing. As a single father I can't count the times that a bathroom break was complicated by the fact that I had daughters.

    I'm pretty hardcore right wing, so I believe in freedom, even when that pisses people off. At the same time, I support those businesses that make everyone feel welcome.

    I believe in the idea that our society should be modeled after the idea that people are good and will make good decisions without being forced to by law. I recognize the limits of that ideal; I'm aware that sometimes people suck and legislation can help with that. Generally speaking, I'm in favor of protecting freedoms by legislation and I'm surprised that the freedom enshrined in our constitution, religious and otherwise, being protected by law can cause such a ruckus.

  6. Re:Not just a bathroom law by msauve · · Score: 1, Troll

    GLBT protections? I self-identify with short lines at the restroom. What about me, shouldn't I be able to go in any door I wish to?

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  7. Re:Not just a bathroom law by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 0, Troll

    As a citizen of North Carolina

    As a citizen of Texas, this puts North Carolina on my "possible move to" states...

    The irony is that I have no problem with gays getting married. I think they are weird, but they are human beings and deserving of human rights. Frankly I don't think government should be in the marriage business.

    But this is not a rights issue, it is a public safety issue. Men are not allowed to follow women into the ladies room and for good reason.

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    Side note to the above: The grand irony is that I've employed gays before. They have no legal protections being gay, but frankly I don't give a damm. If they don't walk around flaunting it and talking about it endlessly, I don't care what they do at home.

    And yes, I'm equal on this, straight people shouldn't be walking around work talking about sexual conquests either.

    About 5 years ago, I had a one year partnership in a small company with a gay person (it was a contract thing, the company was formed to provide a one year contract of tech services for another company). The money spends the same, it doesn't care. Really, I don't care, but on the bathroom issue, I do.

  8. Re:Not just a bathroom law by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Men are not allowed to follow women into the ladies room and for good reason.

    What good reason? How many women have been assaulted by a transgendered person? How much danger is a woman in from a biological who identifies and dresses as a woman whose only difference becomes apparent after they have locked themselves in a cubicle. Contrast that with someone who dresses as a woman entering the men's bathroom where the differences are apparent from the moment they enter, and who will attract the attention of people who either wonder what a woman is doing there or who might become affronted by that person and decide to beat the "gay" out of them.

    As a public safety issue, this bigoted, North Carolina law is a terrible thing.