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Clinton Campaign Chair: 'The American People Can Handle The Truth' On UFOs (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In what seems like an April Fools' Day prank story but is surprisingly real, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta, says that he has convinced Hillary Clinton to declassify as many documents as possible related to Area 51 and UFOs. On the matter of alien visitation, Clinton has previously stated that "I think we may have been [visited already]. We don't know for sure." Meanwhile, Democratic rival Bernie Sanders has been dismissive of UFO talk. And on the other side of the isle, everyone surely already knows how likely Republican nominee Donald Trump feels about illegal aliens. "The U.S. government could do a much better job in answering the quite legitimate questions that people have about what's going on with unidentified aerial phenomena," said John Podesta, who was also a chief of staff to President Bill Clinton.

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  1. Well that would be refreshing by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ANY truth out of that campaign would be a breath of fresh air, so it might as well be about the lack of aliens. Which of course nobody who thinks there's hidden information will believe, so they might as well lie about that, too.

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    1. Re:Well that would be refreshing by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hillary and The Truth haven't been getting along for years, their differences are irreconcilable.

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    2. Re:Well that would be refreshing by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Funny

      The truth depends upon what the meaning of "truth" is...

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    3. Re:Well that would be refreshing by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if the truth is that Monica is an alien?

      Slick Willy pales in comparison to James Tiberius Kirk.

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    4. Re:Well that would be refreshing by TimSSG · · Score: 2

      I think Hillary is trying for better than 90% positive rating from the conspiracy crowd. Tim S.

    5. Re:Well that would be refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and cattle ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
      This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
      However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara Boxer were born.

      See what happens when aliens breed with sheep.. This piece of information may clear up a lot of things .

    6. Re:Well that would be refreshing by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      Except those are both metaphors. You fail at facts as well as vocabulary.

    7. Re:Well that would be refreshing by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Well, it would explain her mistaking a cigar for male genitalia!

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    8. Re:Well that would be refreshing by quantaman · · Score: 2

      How about any of the lies she's told about Bernie Sanders?

      Remember how she claimed that Bernie Sanders did nothing to help push health care reform in the 90s, and then people later pointed to pictures and televised speeches of both her and Bernie Sanders talking on that issue?

      Possibly a lie, could also have been subjective opinion (ie she thought he didn't do enough) or she simply forgot.

      Or the more recent thing where she tried to white-wash Bill's involvement in mass incarceration of black people?

      White-washing does not equate lying.

      I mean for crying out loud, you've seen what she'll do in her lust for power to members of her own party!

      You mean run a primary campaign?

      Even if you ignore Benghazi and the email scandals

      I'm not ignoring them, I'm not aware of any lies there, certainly poor judgment and a potential crime with the email but I don't recall any deception involved.

      you've still seen the lies she'll throw out against her opponents in her own party. How blind can you possibly be?!

      Your post contained one specific example of something that might be a lie.

      Here, I'll help you out, there's a few in there, of course Sanders is more-or-less the same.

      Heck, just a couple days ago Sanders said “She [Hillary Clinton] has been saying lately that she thinks that I am, quote unquote, not qualified to be president." except Clinton didn't say that.

      So wouldn't that qualify as a lie?

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    9. Re:Well that would be refreshing by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

      If you're going to make up a conspiracy, at least try to make it somewhat factual. The estimated range for birth would have been Apr 17, 1948 to Apr 23, 1948. None of them were born then.


      Jun 22, 1933 - Dianne Feinstein
      Mar 26, 1940 - Nancy Pelosi
      Nov 11, 1940 - Barbara Boxer
      Dec 11, 1943 - John F. Kerry
      Aug 19, 1946 - William Jefferson Clinton
      Oct 26, 1947 - Hillary Rodham Clinton
      Mar 31, 1948 - Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
      Nov 17, 1948 - Howard Dean
      Nov 23, 1950 - Charles E. Schumer

      You do have some legitimate choices to use.

      Apr 17, 1948 - Alice Harden - Teacher and politician.
      Apr 18, 1948 - Regis Wargnier - Director, producer, screenwriter
      Apr 19, 1948 - Stuard McLean - Radio personality and author
      Apr 19, 1948 - Rick Miller - Baseball player
      Apr 20, 1948 - Merlin Hay - Army colonel and politician (Scotland)
      Apr 20, 1948 - Remy Trudel - Teacher and politician
      Apr 21, 1948 - Gary Condit - politician
      Apr 22, 1948 - Bishop John Pritchard
      Apr 22, 1948 - Jancis Robinson - journalist
      Apr 22, 1948 - Larry Groce - radio host
      Apr 23, 1948 - Pascal Quignard - author and screenwriter
      Apr 23, 1948 - Serve Theriault - actor

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  2. Whoa....! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    It's just an aircraft test area. I am sure they are happy letting clowns claim mysterious UFOs with strange capabilities -- the more to scare the Rooskies with. Who, by the way, are the only ones who don't think those are real UFOs.

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  3. the e.t. vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She is just trying to get votes. 50% of Americans believe we have been visited by extraterrestrials, that is a large voter base worth going after. It takes very little effort for her to make a campaign promise like this that she does not even need to keep. And, garners her potential votes that could tip the scale when it comes time for the election. Welcome to politics 101.

    1. Re:the e.t. vote by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think it's more likely about a good distraction. Get that conversation riled up to draw attention away from anything scandalous that would prevent her from getting elected.

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  4. I love his optimism by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    I am a weekly member of the church of the truth is out there from when flip phone users Mulder and Scully first aired.

    Yeah, it made me want that phone, and I can still remember people thinking that it was as cool as the Firebird popup headlights.

    But no. People can't handle the truth about Global Warming and cardboard pretenders to the Presidency... so no, alien life would be widely interpreted as the promised return to earth of someone's religious savior.

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  5. Truth is simple. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Area 51 was some Air Force cold war projects. Used some vaguely humanoid looking dummies for some radiation effects study and bombings. Some sketchy reports and leaks from confused lower level workers in the base gave rise to the rumors. Once the town and some of the businesses realized how lucrative it was, they stoked the flame.

    Face it, any fool can ask questions. Asking questions is not difficult. Answering it is difficult, and it is impossible to wake up someone pretending to be asleep.

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  6. Re:WTF. by bmo · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, he was talking about the other side of the isle. Pen Island, to be exact, where they sell pens online through penisland.com

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  7. How about the secrets of the Clintons? by sethstorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Instead of bothering with UFO's, why not deal with things like:
    * What was being discussed between Clinton and Goldman Sachs?
    * What role did her husband have with supporting a known rapist on a certain Caribbean island?
    * What is the truth in the matters of oddly convenient "suicides" like Vince Foster?
    * What is the truth in the matters of Benghazi, given that they wanted the Ambassador dead?

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    1. Re:How about the secrets of the Clintons? by Woldscum · · Score: 2

      John Podesta, Podesta Group and the Clinton Fund. Google that for some king of sleaze stuff.

      http://freebeacon.com/issues/p...

  8. Alien UFOs and the laws of physics by MegOnWheels · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think there are three basic options and a fourth most likely one.
    1. 1 We are the first technologically intelligent species.
    2. 2 We are the last technologically intelligent species.
    3. 3 The universe is so dam big that the probability for any technologically intelligent lifeforms to ever come into contact is near zero.
    4. 4 It is a cover story for military aviation R&D.

    I personally go with the last option.

  9. Panama Papers distraction by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    John Podesta, who was also a chief of staff to President Bill Clinton and CEO of an organization implicated by the Panama Papers.

    UFO's are just a distraction compared to recent events.

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  10. Re:Extra-Trumpestial by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 3, Funny
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  11. Hilarious by bobo_1968 · · Score: 2

    This is an entertaining hail mary to try and distract from the various investigations, emails, and fundraising transcripts etc. "We'll be transparent, we promise! The American people *deserve* to know about UFO's." The meeting where some intern came up with this idea had to be followed by "It's so crazy it might just work!"

  12. Playing with Google Rank by bussdriver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MOST LIKELY, he noticed just like I did, that googling his name puts UFO ranked higher. So he is trying to influence his google ranking to have recent UFO related results attached to his name rather than Panama.

    I remember Bill Clinton's Chief of staff over a decade ago talking about how he looked into UFOs early into Bill's years in office and Bill told him to see if he could find anything. In the interview I remember him saying he found nothing but also felt like he was getting the run around by the system. This is either still a thing for him or it is a tactic being employed again.

  13. Re:Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Combine those extremes for averages for each, and not only is he most likely to LOSE, he will lose VERY badly.

    Somehow the Republican Party forgot that they needed to do better than Mitt Romney in 2012. Alienating every voting bloc in America to appeal to the party base is not a sound strategy.

  14. Re:Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by RoccamOccam · · Score: 2
    "Getting over half the popular vote from Republicans when Cruz and Kasich are still running..."

    Trump hasn't gotten over 50% of the votes in any state primary, so far. So, I don't see how he could have "over half the popular vote" in total. Cruz is the only candidate that has gotten over half the votes in any state.

  15. Re:Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought it was about the Isle Of Lucy.

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  16. Do all Democrats have no memory? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative

    If the Republicans can't accept a black man in the White House

    Says the person who apparently can't remember it was only recently Ben Carson dropped out, a widely respected candidate who was surgeon... and oh by the way happened to be black.

    It never boggles the mind how someone intelligent enough to type can confuse being against a persons ideal rather than the color of his or her skin. But these days all democrats can see is color or gender, ideas being utterly incomprehensible to them. To you Democrats it is all appearance now, never about deeds or substance any longer. And in the end isn't that the worst possible kind of racism? I would take some southern hick any day over your modern progressive racism...

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  17. That is a unique campaign promise by speedlaw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Vote for Hillary and learn the truth about UFOs ! Now, I have seen it all. Also, I don't trust her to actually tell me.

  18. John Podesta? Putin's man in DC? by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not exaggeration. John Podesta is literally (not figuratively) a registered lobbyist for Vladamir Putin's bank, as shown by the recently released Panama Papers:

    Russia’s biggest bank uses The Podesta Group as its lobbyist in Washington, D.C. Though hardly a household name, this firm is well known inside the Beltway, not least because its CEO is Tony Podesta, one of the best-connected Democratic machers in the country. He founded the firm in 1998 with his brother John, formerly chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, then counselor to President Barack Obama, Mr. Podesta is the very definition of a Democratic insider. Outsiders engage the Podestas and their well-connected lobbying firm to improve their image and get access to Democratic bigwigs.

    Which is exactly what Sberbank, Russia’s biggest financial institution, did this spring. As reported at the end of March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. Government as a lobbyist for Sberbank, as required by law, naming three Podesta Group staffers: Tony Podesta plus Stephen Rademaker and David Adams, the last two former assistant secretaries of state. It should be noted that Tony Podesta is a big-money bundler for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign while his brother John is the chairman of that campaign, the chief architect of her plans to take the White House this November.

    Sberbank (Savings Bank in Russian) engaged the Podesta Group to help its public image—leading Moscow financial institutions not exactly being known for their propriety and wholesomeness—and specifically to help lift some of the pain of sanctions placed on Russia in the aftermath of the Kremlin’s aggression against Ukraine, which has caused real pain to the country’s hard-hit financial sector.

    It’s hardly surprising that Sberbank sought the help of Democratic insiders like the Podesta Group to aid them in this difficult hour, since they clearly understand how American politics work. The question is why the Podesta Group took Sberbank’s money. That financial institution isn’t exactly hiding in the shadows—it’s the biggest bank in Russia, and its reputation leaves a lot to be desired. Nobody acquainted with Russian finance was surprised that Sberbank wound up in the Panama Papers.

    Though Sberbank has its origins in the nineteenth century, it was functionally reborn after the Soviet collapse, and it the 1990s it grew to be the dominant bank in the country, today controlling nearly 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets and employing a quarter-million people. The majority stockholder in Sberbank is Russia’s Central Bank. In other words, Sberbank is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution.

    And yes, he's Hillary Clinton's campaign manager. no conflict of interest there...

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  19. Attempted distraction by pz · · Score: 2

    Is this stunt anything other than an attempt to distract the press and public from the damaging combination of Bill Clinton's recent ugly interaction with the African-American movement of the moment (which is a dig on the current crop of youngsters with their millisecond attention span and utter ignorance of history; while in office Bill Clinton was called America's first Black President, that's how close he was to the black vote), and the ties with dirty money that the Clintons have that are being revealed in the Panama Papers?

    I mean, seriously, UFOs? Is that anything other than a Hail Mary pass?

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  20. Re:Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by narcc · · Score: 2

    Alienating every voting bloc in America

    They ... they're ... Oh my god...

  21. Re:Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They ... they're ... Oh my god...

    The 2016 election is going to be one hell of a chest buster. O_o

  22. Re:Extra-Trumpestial by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    It's a disturbingly plausible idea that Trump's hair is actually an alien brain parasite.

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  23. Re: Why the jab at Trump in the summary? by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    Why is it a white people problem? I am no more responsible for all the assholes that happen to have the same skin pigmentation as me than all Muslims are responsible for the assholes that happen to share the same religion as them.