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Harvard Scientist: Rio Olympics Could Spark 'Full Blown Global Health Disaster' (independent.co.uk)

An anonymous reader writes: Doctors have warned that the upcoming 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro could spark a "full-blown public health disaster" with the spread of the Zika virus. The World Health Organization has declared a health emergency in response to the disease's spread through Latin America. Rio has the highest number of cases of any state in the country. Dr Amir Attaran said in the Harvard Public Health Review the Olympic Games could increase the spread of the virus, suggesting the Games should be hosted by a different city in Brazil. "While Brazil's Zika inevitably will spread globally, given enough time, viruses always do -- it helps nobody to speed that up," he said. "In particular, it cannot possibly help when an estimated 500,000 foreign tourists flock into Rio for the Games, potentially becoming infected, and returning to their homes where both local Aedes mosquitoes and sexual transmission can establish new outbreaks." It's highly unlikely the virus will cause officials to take drastic action since the Games start on August 5th. With economic and political issues in the country, the Zika virus is just one more thing undermining confidence in the country's ability to host the Olympics. It was reported earlier this year that Rio has given up on its promise to eliminate 80 percent of the sewage found in the city's notoriously filthy water.

147 comments

  1. Not very realistic by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The games are two and a half months away. Preparations for hosting them take years. I can't see the point in this guy's comments, other than as an attempt to garner some cheap publicity.

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    1. Re:Not very realistic by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The games are two and a half months away. Preparations for hosting them take years. I can't see the point in this guy's comments, other than as an attempt to garner some cheap publicity.

      Regardless of *if* the games occur (they will), he's telling people to stay away . That is the point of his comments.

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    2. Re:Not very realistic by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The games are two and a half months away. Preparations for hosting them take years. I can't see the point in this guy's comments, other than as an attempt to garner some cheap publicity.

      Canceling them would be the sane thing to do if they can't be moved elsewhere or postponed to move elsewhere. Having a completely arbitrary worldwide event in a practical plague area that causes horrible birth defects in the infected is fucking stupid. No sport is worth the risk of allowing people from your nation to risk others in your nation like that.

    3. Re:Not very realistic by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      I recommend a 6 month quarantine before letting anybody return, if Brazil doesn't have the sense to cancel. Or just leave them there.

    4. Re:Not very realistic by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1, Troll

      Regardless of *if* the games occur (they will), he's telling people to stay away . That is the point of his comments.

      Maybe he's hoping to get some tickets cheap.

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    5. Re:Not very realistic by msauve · · Score: 1

      "Having a completely arbitrary worldwide event in a practical plague area that causes horrible birth defects in the infected is fucking stupid."

      Fucking stupid is not using condoms in that situation.

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    6. Re:Not very realistic by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The games are two and a half months away. Preparations for hosting them take years

      ...and will be inadequate no matter how long they take.

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    7. Re:Not very realistic by KGIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, I understand a whole lot of fucking goes on at the Games. It's a veritable fuck-fest, or so I'm told. I know about a dozen folks who have participated or been an alternate and gone to the games. Almost all of them have mentioned the sex and I do recall it being also mentioned either in a news program or a documentary but I'll be damned if I can tell you which one.

      It would appear that physically fit people, in their prime, like to fuck. Go figure?

      At any rate, it's a good idea to use a condom. I want to say the documentary talked about them handing out condoms and (maybe) running out? But, my memory is toast. (Buttered with cinnamon and sugar.)

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    8. Re:Not very realistic by geekmux · · Score: 1

      The games are two and a half months away. Preparations for hosting them take years. I can't see the point in this guy's comments, other than as an attempt to garner some cheap publicity.

      Oh yes, we shall have none of that cheap publicity.

      Instead we should opt to support obscenely expensive publicity, as represented by a gaming tradition that has become an economic sinkhole for the majority of host countries these days. Nothing like bolstering a financial plague with a real one.

      Unfortunately the Olympics have become a tradition wrapped in a gilded cage. And if the risk of a global pandemic isn't enough to rethink this, then perhaps humanity deserves what it brings upon itself. Ignorance was at least an acceptable excuse in the 1300s.

    9. Re:Not very realistic by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to Just Say No to Mosquitoes!

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    10. Re:Not very realistic by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Disease resistance is a new Olympic event. Maybe they'll give out gold medals for the strongest immune system.

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    11. Re:Not very realistic by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I lost interest in much of what he said when I saw the school he goes to and that he says things like "host them in another city".

      He's absolutely without a doubt correct about the possibility of the virus spread. He is kinda down to earth regarding "let's not be extremist". But in reality, unless the transcription is terrible, he seems to lack the ability to put his separate thoughts into something logical and coherent. Therefore, it's difficult for me to be overly interested in his perspective.

      So... as you mention, the moral of the story is... shoot anyone you know who might be going to the olympics or may have been around someone who has before they get close enough.

      Here's a thought....
        - The Olympics will be in the southern hemisphere during mosquito low season.
        - People who attend the games will be at a risk of being infected with Zika, though not as high of a risk as at other times since it will be a low season.
        - The population of the city will be a minimum for 500,000 people greater during this event than normal.
        - The life span of a mosquito at the expected temperatures should be approximately 14 days, 10 if it warms up... which simply increasing population by 500,000 may contribute to.
        - There will be a much higher amount of trash and dirt in the city as well as viable food sources for mosquitoes
        - By the end of the events, the mosquito population should have grown... maybe even a lot.
        - More people will be at risk of infection due to simple population growth
        - More people will be infected... even if the infection rate is as little as 1 in 500, that's still 1,000 infected individuals
        - The people will travel home during summer in the northern hemisphere
        - The mosquito population following summer should be near it's apex at the time.

      It seems to me that there's more to consider on this topic.
        1) Identify whether early detection is possible and require tests followed by possible isolation before boarding airplanes.
        2) Offer quarantine at indoor spas in arriving countries for people who have been to the Olympics.
        3) As seems most logical and has been suggested... suggest to people to simply not go. I can't imagine why anyone would want to go to the Olympics anyway. It seems an overpriced way to drag your knuckles.
        4) How to exploit the American news networks to turn a profit on this... after all, in America's current "Fear Economy", the fear propaganda mills run almost 24/7 to ensure people keep their jobs. Zika is a great way to scare people... especially with the possible (even likely) link with birth related issues. There must be a way to turn a profit on this. Maybe a new fashion trend of veils and long gloves to reduce exposed body surface mosquitoes would find attractive?

    12. Re:Not very realistic by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 2

      Actually... it has absolutely nothing to do with physical fitness. People in general like to fuck.

      It's more a connection like this.

      People who like sports tend to have some sort of a need to gain an adrenaline rush of some type.
      Men who watch sports are generally testosterone addicted as well. These people find their entertainment through generally primal and highly physical forms.
      Women who watch sports are generally highly competitive in nature and are more likely to revert to primal states as well. Even my almost best buddy, she's a Ph.D. in DSP... her brain fails to function when exposed to any form of competition... physical or verbal.

      Spectators of sports seem to have some sort of illness that makes them irrationally believe that other people doing something more or less benign like kicking a ball around has something to do with them. They seem to believe at both an emotional and physical level that if some hairy tattooed guy with limited cognitive capacity jumps over a stick... this persons action effects them somehow. It's probably a similar mental disorder to the one which causes many people to feel a need to invent or at least believe in invisible sky gods and magical places you go to just be happy after you die.

      As such... these peoples hormone levels increase drastically causing people to revert to something closer to a primal state which obviously is expressed in primal behavior.

      I honestly an less concerned about Zika and far more concerned about the cleanliness of the prostitutes who will be in Rio during this event. Based on statistics published by PornHub during the world cup a few years back (was that Rio too?). People who get their rocks off on sports rush to porn sites during commercial breaks. If people are this horny over watching players (generally of their own gender) getting hot and sweaty... I can only imagine that even the meanest of the prostitutes is likely to receive some business from spectators not bright enough to realize "You do not wish to place anything in there".

    13. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do recall it being also mentioned either in a news program or a documentary but I'll be damned if I can tell you which one.

      I believe it was this one.

    14. Re:Not very realistic by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      From what I hear, it shouldn't be difficult. Advance ticket sales apparently haven't been this poor in decades.

    15. Re:Not very realistic by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I just did a quick Google and you might want to as well. You offered an "Actually..." So, I went and took a look with the query of "sex at olympic games."

      If the four links, fairly randomly clicked, are to be considered truth then there's significantly more there than there are at other functions.

      I guess it's down to this... Err... Where'd you come up with that response? I open every reply with a mental note to say, "Thanks, I learned something." Or, "You have a good point." (I find it helps. I literally consciously think about it each time.) 'Cause I'm speaking only about the athletes. I'm not sure how the spectators are important or salient. I may not have been clear enough.

      So, I'm trying but I must be missing something. I opened the reply thinking that I'd be acknowledging my error and learning something new. If the reports are accurate then there's a whole bunch of fucking going on. I'm completely baffled that you then "actually" me and say that physical fitness hasn't anything to do with it when we're discussing a group for whom physical fitness is a very strong attractor/trait. At that point, you decided to go into the crowd and see what the spectators are doing.

      What am I missing? I must be missing something.

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    16. Re:Not very realistic by just+another+AC · · Score: 4, Informative

      Competed at last few Olympics personally...

      Yes a lot happens, but the village also provides free condoms. Most people use them, as such, the village becomes the highest consumption of condoms ever. Easy to google and verify this. Although some of this number is people hoarding these for future use.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

      Long story short, all athletes going to Rio have been warned many times over and advised that men should use protection for at least a month, and should not try for children for at least 6 months post games. Similar for women (but I think they only need wait a month for some reason).

    17. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like stupid fucking then.

    18. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The intents are fear-mongering and kicking Brazil while they're down.

    19. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think some people were turned off Rio by the amazing indifference of the locals (and everyone generally) to all the drug-addled prostitute kids that were hanging around the stadia.

    20. Re:Not very realistic by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      Yes, canceling it would be the sane thing to do in the interests of public health. However, the Mammon Machine must be fed. It doesn't matter how many human sacrifices must be made. Just think of the economic impact if the event were abandoned at this stage! Surely there's nothing more important in life than serving Mammon!

      Call me a misanthrope (you wouldn't be wrong), but I'm sort of hoping that Zika is finally the plague we've been freaking out about since SARS. It seems that was really when this never ending omg plague! thing got started. Humanity needs some kind of jolt to get a lot of people to advance their thought processes further than their reptile brains.

      But, in all likelihood, give it a year or two and we'll have moved on to whatever the next civilization-ending super-bug is.

    21. Re:Not very realistic by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Right because its more important to play some games, than prevent a global epidemic that will have life altering consequences for many.

      Remember though the technocrats tell us recreational international travel and open boarders are a good thing. Frankly the modern Olympics are a travesty. The IOC has proven over and over again that scandal and graft are the only things they know how to do well. The coaches cheat, the athletes cheat; at least someone gets caught practically every games. The athletes have taken to nation shopping so many of the competitors are not really from the nation they compete for and often have not lived their long, making the idea its a competition between nations silly. Its millions of the same people who bitch all day about carbon foot prints piling on jets to fly to another content so they can see something they could get a better view of on TV.

      Really we should do the world a favor and just shut this s*(&) down.

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    22. Re:Not very realistic by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      No sport is worth the risk of allowing people from your nation to risk others in your nation like that.

      I probably agree with you. The one exception I can think of is if, for some reason, having the Olympics significantly reduced the likelihood of war in the following years. If it did, we could weigh the two scenario's impacts on human suffering.

    23. Re:Not very realistic by caseih · · Score: 1

      The write is from the University of Ottawa, not Harvard. Just so you know.

    24. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the people that still go to the olympics despite all the constant warnings deserve it

    25. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one exception I can think of is if, for some reason, having the Olympics significantly reduced the likelihood of war in the following years. If it did, we could weigh the two scenario's impacts on human suffering.

      Didn't WW2 kick off during the Olympics?

    26. Re: Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because an american (and hence inferior) athlete won over the German Herrenvolk. Republicans hate us and want us to die. Democrats would have forced the american athlete to lose in order not to displease the Europeans. Europeans are so cultured, they're never wrong. Never wrong.

    27. Re:Not very realistic by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      Spectators of sports seem to have some sort of illness that makes them irrationally believe that other people doing something more or less benign like kicking a ball around has something to do with them. They seem to believe at both an emotional and physical level that if some hairy tattooed guy with limited cognitive capacity jumps over a stick... this persons action effects them somehow.

      Yikes... well, aren't you the superior being...

    28. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you blame Germany, Jesse Owens won four gold medals. /s

    29. Re:Not very realistic by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      And yet the Zika virus outbreak is recent. But thanks for having your head up your ass.

    30. Re:Not very realistic by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      "Having a completely arbitrary worldwide event in a practical plague area that causes horrible birth defects in the infected is fucking stupid."

      Fucking stupid is not using condoms in that situation.

      Except Zika is not just sexually transmitted - it can be transmitted by mosquitoes, too. So even if you decided to go wild and use protection, you can still come back infected by being bitten by an infected mosquito.

      Then you return home, and a local mosquito bites you, and it's now infected, which then goes to infect other people.

      In fact, until recently we didn't realize it was also sexually transmitted.

      So no, no amount of protection will keep you safe from Zika.

    31. Re:Not very realistic by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      There's always the "plan B" of moving the games to some other city that's hosted before and therefore already has the infrastructure (e.g. Los Angeles, which I use as an example because they didn't build new stuff last time).

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    32. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A condom won't prevent you getting the fucking virus will it. The point is that you're there at the epicentre, to not coin a euphemism.

    33. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Men particularly get raised testosterone levels watching sport. It's the nature of contest, particularly between males, and it has deep roots in biology. With respect to prostitutes I don't think I would anyway just because it's Brazil, a hotspot for HIV and god knows what else.

    34. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call me a misanthrope (you wouldn't be wrong), but I'm sort of hoping that Zika is finally the plague we've been freaking out about since SARS.

      I call you idiot. FYI, 80% of the people who actually catch Zika don't even get to notice it, becuase it is so mild. Few ones will display G-B syndrome. So much for a Terminal Pandemics, no? Turn your FUD button down several notches [close to to the 0.5 position]

    35. Re: Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could do more to personalize it for the host country. A prize for the last athlete to catch dysentery? In the water events, bonus points awarded for each human turd or animal carcass you fish out the open sewers that pass for waterways?

    36. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cheap tickets are for the zika virus; you get to see the olympics as a feature/last request.

    37. Re:Not very realistic by msauve · · Score: 1

      Whoosh.

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    38. Re:Not very realistic by doccus · · Score: 1

      I think he's right. There's something very iinsidious about that zika virus, and I haven't yet put my finger on it.. but they've recently confirmd that yes, it's the *virus* and not the spray causing the microencephaly, and the timing of the outbreak is highly suspicious...

    39. Re:Not very realistic by alexandru_preoteasa · · Score: 1

      Yes, he quite likely is.

    40. Re:Not very realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lets the Olympic Games have been suspend in their past so why cant they be canceled for a global public health threat with no TREATMENT not to mention the country cant even host safe games-their Pres is being impeached, the people are on the brink of rioting over that and the corruption scandal still ongoing, and they didnt get their game locations to be safe for the athletes not to mention the virus is spread sexually and Olmpians are well know for going hypersexual after they get done competing with fellow Olympians

    41. Re:Not very realistic by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Just bring your own water and wear a mosquito-proof suit (or just full hazmat) the entire time.
      I'd love to see the summer games with all the athletes in hazmat suits. That would be fantastic.

    42. Re:Not very realistic by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Certainly doesn't sound like it.

  2. Filthy drinking water? by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Who cares about the water and dying children? They have a good soccer team. Get your priorities straight. More stadiums!

    1. Re:Filthy drinking water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in Brazil [expat]. This is FUD. The weather is splendid this time of year. I'm having the time of my life. Brazil is beautiful. You should remember that this country is much more than just Rio. You just don't believe everything you read in papers.

      Just my 2 centavos.

    2. Re:Filthy drinking water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously didn't watch the last World Cup! I did. I stayed at Flamengo for a while, walked down to the beach on Sunday (car free day). Thousands of people on the beach, it was very hot, nobody in the water. To swim or not to swim? Did I mention it was very hot? But I decided not to swim; probably a wise move. Now they have Zika as well. Maybe watch the Olympics on TV.

    3. Re:Filthy drinking water? by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      It's not entirely FUD... certainly in its current form of presentation, it's been blown up into something fantastic and WOW worthy.

      The truth is, every time people travel, there will be illness associated. I can't get anywhere near most South American countries without spending at least one day close to a toilet. This is mostly due to having been forced to grow up in the anti-bacterial country called the USA. It took me over 10 years after leaving America to build an immune system which works fairly well in Europe and a chunk of Asia. Africa and South America are still a problem for me.

      The fact is... it's far more likely that simply letting 500,000 adrenaline/testosterone junkies travel someplace where they can all be stupid together will result in something far worse than a Zika outbreak.

    4. Re:Filthy drinking water? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Most countries have a city and rural areas. The city has a visible pollution problem. The rural areas often have a hidden pollution problem, because rural areas may not have the resources to dispose of hazardous products. So there is PFOA in the water, trash everywhere. But we look at the trees and think it is all nice and clean. A City, even if kept cleaner than a rural area. Looks a bit more polluted.

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    5. Re:Filthy drinking water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously didn't watch the last World Cup!

      Obviously not, because I'm at Rio Grande, a town near the Uruguay border [It's cold down here, yikes], far away from Rio. As I said, Brazil is a huge place, and confusing the entire country with Rio is just a fool's game.

  3. More and more evidence against the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Harmful to the host city? Check. (Currently impeaching their president for this among other things.)
    Harmful to the people of the host country? Check. (Funds were diverted to fund Olympic construction.)
    Harmful to the athletes competing? Check. (Zika and raw sewage, a tasty cocktail.)
    Harmful to the spectators? Check. (Ditto.)

    The IOC is a criminal organization.

    1. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The IOC is a criminal organization.

      The US should do the world a favour and bomb the shit out of the IOC once and for all.
      As for the athletes, since all of them are professionals they have many other venues in which to compete, make records and get money.

    2. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      > The US should do the world a favour and bomb the shit out of the IOC once and for all.

      All they have to do is place the IOC headquarters in a Doctors Without Borders clinic somewhere in the middle east. the rest takes care of itself.

    3. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      More to poor leadership - globally
      The problem with the Olympics isn't the Olympics but the poor leadership of the host government. Because of all the media focus the politicians get now, they are pressured to make their country/city look better than all the rest. All this focus on visual appearance can suffer at the cost of the hidden infrastructure needed. However the leadership needs to survive the next set of tweeting wars, not plan out and lead.

      When the Olympics had less coverage and less recourse for everyone's response. While Grand, the Olympics were more held back with more focus on the events than showing off the city.

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    4. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not always. Sydney, Vancouver, and Salt Lake are examples of cities that thrived with the Olympics.

      Here's a hint...to host the Olympics your city has to have its shit together. The issue is that most cities don't.

      I like the idea that every 2 years all the countries get together to play games, but it is needlessly expensive. They need to pick one Summer games city and one Winter games city, and say you're always hosting it. That way they can reuse the infrastructure. Maybe it can switch cities after, say, 30 years.

    5. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      No. They need to pick cities like New York where just about everything is already there.

      Large Stadiums 40,000+ specatators - Yankee Stadium, Citi Field, Meadowlands, Aqueduct
      Smaller stadiums like the Belmont Raceway, minor league ballparks in LI, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Red Bull Arena, Arthur Ashe Stadium
      Larger indoor arenas like MSG, the Barclay Center, Nassau Collesium, Prudential Center
      tons of smaller ones.

      Many of these venues regularly host major events - World Series, US Open (Tennis), Super Bowl, Boxing Championships - hence have the expertise to handle the crowds and security.

      The only things that would need to be built would be swimming, diving and kayaking venues. With major money by the Hudson River it should be rather straightforward to partner with a sporting / gym complex to build this.

      That makes sense. And I'm certain there are other cities for which the same holds true. Let's not just pick cities to "give them a chance." The Olympics is not necessarily a money maker - and in most cases is a massive money loser.

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    6. Re:More and more evidence against the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite, although I would prefer Rome or Paris to NYC, but if it had to be in the US, I'd suggest Honolulu, if only because the time difference would be shitty for everyone equally.

    7. Re: More and more evidence against the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But NYC is shit.

      What would they do with all the beggars and drug addicts NYC is filled with ?

      Visitors would soon tire of the vulgar locals trying to panhandle them. I imagine visiting third worlders would feel at home, but civilised people would find the dirt and poverty too confronting.

      No, NYC is a bad idea.

  4. Turd World Shithole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brazil is such a shithole, full of mystery meat.

  5. The virus isn't the problem there by fustakrakich · · Score: 2, Funny

    The pollution, on the other hand, is indeed hazardous. And those are GMO mosquitoes from 2012 onward that are causing the microcephaly and miscarriages, not the virus.

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    1. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      And vaccines cause Autism right?

    2. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by khallow · · Score: 1

      No, it's the lizaroids. True fact.

    3. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Sure thats what they would like you to think. Everyone knows it is the chemtrails that cause Autism.

    4. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pft! Hardly, fluoride causes Autism.

    5. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "And those are GMO mosquitoes from 2012 onward that are causing the microcephaly and miscarriages"

      You have the story scrambled. The GMO mosquitos are going to be introduced to kill off the natural organic free-range progressive mosquitos which are spreading the virus.

    6. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, if you want to swim in raw sewage and get bit by frankenbugs, be my guest. Meanwhile, pharmaceuticals would be a good investment during the games, specifically atropine and diphenoxylate, (Lomotil)... and buy DEET by the barrel

    7. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lizaroids? What is that, like a really, really bad case of hemorrhoids?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorrhoid [NSFW]

    8. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      You have the story scrambled. The GMO mosquitos are going to be introduced to kill off the natural organic free-range progressive mosquitos which are spreading the virus.

      I think the GP was probably referring to the belief that Zika was caused by GMO mosquitos.

    9. Re: The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is funny how the gmo mosquitos were released in pretty much the same area where the Zola virus exploded

    10. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Bullshit! Autism causes fluoride. Everyone knows that.

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    11. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1


      No, it's the lizaroids. True fact.

      I lost count; does that come before, or after jellybean?

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    12. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Pft! Hardly, fluoride causes Autism.

      What do you think is in the chemtrails?

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    13. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Shimbo · · Score: 1
    14. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have the story scrambled. The GMO mosquitos are going to be introduced to kill off the natural organic free-range progressive mosquitos which are spreading the virus.

      I think the GP was probably referring to the belief that Zika was caused by GMO mosquitos.

      Amazing how quickly news mutates. I am married to a Brazilian. The latest news in Brazil was that the birth defect was caused by a bad batch of vaccines

    15. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I heard was the theory the GMO skeeter caused the microcephely, rather than Zika, the Zika and microcephely then are coincidence. There is another theory that pesticides added to water cause microcephely. Now, why they do not use another technology, radioactively sterilized mosquitos, for sterile mosquito treatment, is a good question I would like to hear answered, since this would avoid the GMO issue.

    16. Re:The virus isn't the problem there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus. There's already a conspiracy theory about it? Un fucking believable.

  6. Am I the only one.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who doesn't give a crap about the Olympics?

    1. Re:Am I the only one.. by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      You're not alone. I haven't cared about the Olympics since I was about seven years old (1960). That was back when there was no cable television and with so little to watch, most people defaulted to watching the Olympics. If I remember correctly, the coverage was not even live and we watched it in black and white.

    2. Re:Am I the only one.. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Nobody is asking you to give a crap. Diarrhea is caused by other diseases, not Zika. You're being asked to not give a puke, by Brazil not giving you Zika via a pandemic.

      Please, don't give a crap. Please, don't give a puke.

      Stay healthy, stay safe.

    3. Re:Am I the only one.. by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Heh. You're an old bastard. Even older than I by about 4 years.

      Remember when we were young and always wanted to be the oldest? *sighs*

      "Man, I can't wait to turn 14 so I can get my permit!" "Man, I can't wait until I'm 18 and can drink!"

      Aging, not all it's cracked up to be.

      Having said that... I don't watch TV really so it's very unlikely that I'll watch the Olympics. I do actually, sort of, not really mind watching some of the Winter Games. I'd absolutely love to try bobsled or luge. Err... 30 years ago - that is. I'd bust a hip and be out of commission if I tried it today.

      I'm also not really that fond of the newer events. I don't know if it's because I'm an old fuddy-duddy or if that's because they actually kind of suck. Synchronized swimming? Really? Did they ever put skateboarding in? I'd probably watch that. I was thrashing back before there was a Thrasher magazine. Again, not an activity for the old.

      So, I am also unlikely to watch any of the events. If it's online then I might put a few of 'em on just for the novelty sake but I don't think that's likely. I'm also not worried overly much about this pandemic potential. I guess if they all turn into zombies and go on a brain eating rampage then I'd probably watch that. Barring that, I doubt I'll pay much attention. Meanwhile, I'll wait for Dubai to host the Winter Olympics.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    4. Re:Am I the only one.. by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Remember when we were young and always wanted to be the oldest? *sighs*

      "Man, I can't wait to turn 14 so I can get my permit!" "Man, I can't wait until I'm 18 and can drink!"

      Aging, not all it's cracked up to be.

      Youth is wasted on the young.

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  7. Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful
    World Cup Soccer in Qatar in the midst of the 45 degree celsius (112 f) summer, the Olympics in the midst of the Russian kleptocracy, and now this mess...

    Human greed and self-interest at the expense of pragmatic decision-making. Wouldn't it be something if it were a new story.

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    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Lets see, desert heat, government corruption, and Zika virus. Which of these can be spread by returning tourists?

      Relativism fail.

    2. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Lets see, desert heat, government corruption, and Zika virus.

      Are there deserts in Brazil? I thought it was tropical, but geomancy was never my strong suit.

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    3. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Qatar isn't even in Brazil. Not your strong suit, that part I believe. But you didn't quite find the right question to clear up your confusion, either.

    4. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      But you didn't quite find the right question to clear up your confusion, either.

      There is no question that could clear up my confusion.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    5. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Tom · · Score: 1

      The Olympic Games have been political tools since 1956 (a bunch of western countries stayed away from Melbourne, Australia to prosted against Russia) or 1976 (african nations protested against New Zealand by not going to Montreal, Canada) or, of course, the famous 1980 boycott of the Moscow games where most western nations stayed away after pressure from the US government.

      The mess is that we, the "good guys" in the west abused the games to make political statements instead of seing them in the spirit they are intended to be, as an opportunity to bridge gaps and meet your enemy in peace, if not friendship.

      Sochi is debatable, though you are naive if you think there's no corruption around the games in western countries. However, for thousands of people it was the first time they travelled to Russia, and a wonderful opportunity to peek at least a little bit behind the curtain of propaganda that even our free press creates.

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    6. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Lets see, desert heat, government corruption, and Zika virus. Which of these can be spread by returning tourists?

      Relativism fail.

      Your perception is a subjective value worthy of some consideration...

      ...

      ...

      no, you're just being hateful.

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      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    7. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Qatar isn't even in Brazil.

      So where's Dubai?

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    8. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Politicians and business people travel so I count two on your list that can be spread by returning tourists.

    9. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to include an idea with your insults next time. I mean, two insults, and not a single idea, no analysis, not even an attempt to identify what you're complaining about.

      For example, you use the word "hateful." What was it you thought I was "hating?"

      I accused you of engaging in moral relativism in an inappropriate context. How is that "hateful?" Don't be afraid to use a dictionary to check what the words mean.

      You don't even show know what relativism means; you made no attempt to support your statement, or disagree with my analysis. Maybe you just "hate" that somebody called you on a bullshit attempt to claim that a desert being hot is the same type of thing as an outbreak of disease?

    10. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Qatar isn't even in Brazil.

      So where's Dubai?

      Not in Brazil.

    11. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by rmdingler · · Score: 0

      Don't forget to include an idea with your insults next time. I mean, two insults, and not a single idea, no analysis, not even an attempt to identify what you're complaining about.

      I have no complaints. I could not deign to imagine a more vulnerable adversary.

      For example, you use the word "hateful." What was it you thought I was "hating?"

      For example, and I don't want to appear overly sensitive, but it appears as if you were being hateful towards me... and I know, that is definitively me-centric.

      I accused you of engaging in moral relativism in an inappropriate context. How is that "hateful?" Don't be afraid to use a dictionary to check what the words mean.

      The dictionary....ahhh-oohhh... Is that allowed? Damn my trailer park understanding of these arbitrary rules.

      You don't even show know what relativism means; you made no attempt to support your statement, or disagree with my analysis.

      Damn your cleverness, son of William Wallace!

      Maybe you just "hate" that the girl is no one called you on a bullshit attempt to claim that a desert being hot is the same type of thing as an outbreak of disease?

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      Ernest Hemingway

    12. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by alexandru_preoteasa · · Score: 1

      To us onlookers, you got whipped like a red-headed stepchild, and are **still** not providing anything of substance to his questions except for content-free snark. Millenial detected... "fellow Millenial" I should say, as I am one too.

    13. Re:Lay the blame at the proper set of feet by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he seemed to miss the point that he was missing. About the mill part...did Odgen Nash get popular again?

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  8. So like Austraila then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better to stay away. Full of convicts and other lower lifes.

    1. Re:So like Austraila then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear anonymous asshole, please do stay away from Australia, weve got enough stupid cunts already thanks.

    2. Re:So like Austraila then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear anonymous asshole, please do stay away from Australia, weve got enough stupid cunts already thanks.

      Well then one more cunt going your way won't change anything.

    3. Re:So like Austraila then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then shouldn't you be leaving to fix the situation?

  9. In a safe place with no spectators by myid · · Score: 1

    If there were time, then I wonder if Olympic training grounds could be used for the Olympics, like these training grounds in the US and Canada. They would have to accommodate spectators - food, lodging, parking, emergency services, plus a place to watch the olympic games. It's too late to get that set up now.

    Or if all else fails, they could hold the Olympics in a healthy place (including clean water) without thousands of visitors, and just televise the games. It would be sort of weird for there not to be any crowds cheering and applauding.

  10. Shouldn't others have a say? by unencode200x · · Score: 2

    There is the potential for 10's of thousands, or perhaps 100's of thousands of people to get infected in Rio alone. Then when they go home they'll infect others.

    Shouldn't we have a say? It can't just be up to the up to the IOC or Brazilian officials. These people are going to come back to our countries and potentially infect everyone else. Tens of thousands of people coming back to our cities with this thing sounds pretty scary to me.

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    1. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by Livius · · Score: 1

      Then when they go home they'll infect others.

      I suppose there's an argument to put them all in quarantine when they get back, but that has logistics issues too.

    2. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by kylemonger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Olympics is a large surge of incoming people, but consider that Rio receives 2.82 million international tourist visitors per year (source: Wikipedia). I'd imagine the tourism numbers have come down since the heartbreaking pictures of those microencephalic babies appeared, but even a 50% decrease leaves a mess of people who could carry the virus home with them.

      Whatever is going to happen with Zika is going to happen with or without the Olympics. And with global warming proceeding apace, the mosquitos are going to be spreading out of the tropical regions in any event. Get ready.

    3. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by unencode200x · · Score: 1

      Good point. So we're screwed either way, may as well have the Olympics. Also, after I actually RTFA the IOC cites the World Health Organization's opinion that it's fine to continue with the Olympic games.

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      Chance favors the prepared mind.
      Perfect is the enemy of good.
    4. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      The easiest thing to do would be to ground all the airline flights going to/from Brazil. It won't stop everybody (people could still go by boat, or fly to Paraguay and drive), but it would significantly reduce the number of carriers returning with the virus.

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    5. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't we have a say? It can't just be up to the up to the IOC or Brazilian officials.

      Your country would be totally within their sovereign rights to deny travelers which passed through Brazil from returning to the country. You need to get your government to take action.

    6. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by Christian+Henry · · Score: 1

      Then when they go home they'll infect others.

      I suppose there's an argument to put them all in quarantine when they get back, but that has logistics issues too.

      Oh, I dunno, it worked for Ebola, and that included a great many people whom traveled to African countries which are nowhere near the affected countries.

    7. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by dafradu · · Score: 1

      In about 3 months Rio had 25 000 cases of Zika virus. Thats 278 cases a day.
      278 is 0.0017% of a population of 16 millions.
      Add 500k tourists and your chance of getting Zika is even lower... the chance of a international visitor getting Zika must be infinitesimal.

      Zika is only a topic in Rio among people planning on having kids or pregnant woman, i don't see any other group of people taking any extra precautions because of Zika.

      Temperatures are already going down, and although it will not go much lower during the winter it is enough to significantly lower the number of mosquitos. It has always been like this with dengue fever, big numbers during the summer, MUCH lower during winter, and since its the same mosquito it will also happen with Zika.

    8. Re:Shouldn't others have a say? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Oh, I dunno, it worked for Ebola, and that included a great many people whom traveled to African countries which are nowhere near the affected countries.

      But it didn't work with Ebola. You had folks like Kaci Hickox who thought she knew better than everyone. When she was put under 21-day quarantine after coming back from treating Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, she called it a human rights violation (like being thrown in jail without committing a crime) and publicly broke quarantine.. and no one did anything. Maine courts ruled that if someone doesn't WANT to abide by a quarantine and they show no symptoms.. then they don't have to abide by it. And this was freaking EBOLA. Do you think that we'll be able to successfully quarantine the larger number of people with the far-milder Zika virus?

  11. Make it a sound stage Games by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Don't cancel the Olympics. Instead, just ban spectators. No exposure of visitors to the virus, the crime rate, and the political rioting. No traffic mess. Security could concentrate on protecting the athletes and camera crews in a trouble-free bubble. The marine events would be held here: http://riotimesonline.com/braz...

    Freed of the high costs of managing spectators, the Olympics would be purely a media event, with increased profits from the TV rights. This Olympics could net more than any its predecessors.

    1. Re:Make it a sound stage Games by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      So... basically make it so that the organizations who profited off of the big bucks of beating the shit out of the entire city and economy of Rio can take their cash and run in exchange for a TV show and all the people who have suffered up until now through years of chaos and construction etc... should be totally screwed because their businesses selling food and newspapers and such won't be able to have anyone to sell to?

      The ONLY good thing about the Olympics is that the local shop owners will have 2-3 weeks of opportunity to increase their prices 400% and increase their volumes 500% and with some good managing of the profits catch that lucky break they were looking for.

    2. Re:Make it a sound stage Games by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      The people still benefit from infrastructure built for the Games, and this is not limited to the venues themselves. Athens got a whole shiny new subway system from its Games.

    3. Re:Make it a sound stage Games by dafradu · · Score: 1

      MOST local shop owners will be screwed since we will have more holidays, thats less people on the streets having lunch, shopping... it was like that during the World Cup, the Olympics will be even worse since its concentrated in one city.

  12. Well....do you drink the tap water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I lived in El Salvador for 2 years and Belize for 1, night and day as far as drinking water standards goes even though both countries are poor.

    Pro tip, Belize has some of the best drinking water in that part of the world, even better than mexico (because it was a british commonwealth until the 60's or 70's).

  13. I do... not so much... but I REALLY DID by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    I was obsessed with the Olympics last year... it ends up my city (Oslo, Norway) was bidding to host the Olympics.

    We just spend 5-6 years building seven 10 story buildings and some other stuff around it. They're still not done. I think we used only one legged construction workers and took away their walking sticks for safety reasons.

    Some dimwitted buffoon seemed to think it was a good idea to through this entire city into 6-8 years of sheer devastation and disaster on a scale that could only be considered criminal to host a few weeks of people playing games. This city would never be able to build that infrastructure in that time... we simply don't know how. In additional, we would never recover from it. 30 years (I think) later and this country still has trash from the Olympics laying around.

    I was obsessed with convincing people to make sure the vote went against the Olympics. I don't mind people getting their rocks off on watching people (usually of their own gender) getting hot and sweaty. If they're into that, it's really not my problem. But I sure as hell don't want to spend an extra hour getting to work for 8 years so they can do so.

  14. I'll say no by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    While I agree with your sentiment... they way you present it leads me to say that the answer is clearly no.

    "Shouldn't we have a say?"... the world doesn't work that way. If you want a say, you simply have to say it. If you need to ask it first, then your opinion is too passive and is utterly irrelevant and carries no power.

    Are you seriously suggesting that when voicing your opinion in what would be perceived as opposition to an event focused entirely on measure of strength and physical prowess that your passive voice will mean anything? You will be simply unrepresented which you simply always are. Do not feel bad, so am I. I haven't been represented in government since shortly after I was born.

    You can choose to live in fear and anger. You can feel bitter about it and whine and say things like "Shouldn't we have a say?" as if you're trying to rouse the rabble to your passive voice. Or you can simply live your life each day.

    I have no interest in religion beyond personal entertainment in the same way I like The Three Stooges but I've always had a warm spot for the Serenity Prayer which goes something like this :

          Pizza Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
          Courage to change the things I can,
          And wisdom to know the difference.

    I'll add :

          And the intelligence to live my life without the fear Fox, CNN and NBC are trying to force down my throat 24/7
          P.S. Thank you Pizza Lord for giving us Elon Musk. He's a fucking asshole but at least the "Doom New Networks" will take an occasional break from their broadcasts of "Hell and damnation is here" long enough to share one of his Shitter Twitters with us.

  15. Editing is fundamental by porges · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which leads to a simple question: But for the Games, would anyone recommend sending an extra half a million visitors into Brazil right now? Of course not: mass migration into the heart of an outbreak is a public health no-brainer. And given the choice between accelerating a dangerous new disease or not—for it is impossible that Games will slow Zika down—the answer should be a no-brainer for the Olympic organizers too. Putting sentimentality aside, clearly the Rio 2016 Games must not proceed.

    Phrasing, dude.

    1. Re:Editing is fundamental by jratcliffe · · Score: 2

      I had two reactions to this.

      1. You're a terrible person, and should be ashamed of yourself.
      2. Trying to clean Diet Coke off my monitor when it's also filling my sinuses sucks.

    2. Re:Editing is fundamental by porges · · Score: 1

      I report, you decide.

    3. Re:Editing is fundamental by alexandru_preoteasa · · Score: 1

      "Are we still doing phrasing?"

  16. Should of been Chicago! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Should of been Chicago!

    1. Re:Should of been Chicago! by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

      Said practically nobody who lived in Chicago and didn't own a hotel.

    2. Re:Should of been Chicago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      of?

    3. Re:Should of been Chicago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only the Chicago politicians wanted it, those of us who pay the taxes wanted nothing to do with it.

  17. god plays plague inc. and he enjoys it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zika appears to be the best proof that God exists and watches this world. Either that, or the writer of Plague Inc is a seer.

  18. DON'T GO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This Olympics is a disaster on many levels. The Olympics is nothing but a giant graft/corruption machine using athletics as a front anyway. There are many reasons to boycott the Olympics and this Olympics really makes it an easy decision for those tempted to go. If you go, I hope you get pick-pocketed as is the Rio way.

  19. More ideas: Being realistic about Brazil and Rio by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2

    More ideas: The Olympic Games will be in August, which is winter in the southern hemisphere. In Rio and most of Brazil, winter is still warm.

    From the Slashdot story summary: "It was reported earlier this year that Rio has given up on its promise to eliminate 80 percent of the sewage found in the city's notoriously filthy water."

    I've only been in Rio, at separate times, for maybe 3 weeks total. I haven't seen "notoriously filthy water". The heavily polluted area is in Guanabara Bay, I understand. This is a mostly true but sometimes exaggerated discussion of beaches in Rio: Beaches in Rio de Janeiro. (The article mentions where it exaggerates.)

    The Brazilian media constantly emphasizes violent events in Brazilian cities. However, the murder rate in Rio de Janeiro was, the last time I checked, less than two-thirds of the murder rate in the U.S. capital city, Washington, D.C.

    Discussions of the song, The Girl From Ipanema, are usually examples of cultures outside of Brazil not reporting Brazilian culture accurately. The author, Antonio Carlos Jobim, was sitting in a restaurant, I suppose, writing that song. If he had wanted to talk with that woman, she almost certainly would have been happy to talk with him. That's been my experience, and I'm not as physically attractive as was Jobim.

    Many people live in the area surrounding Guanabara Bay, Go there. People from the U.S. will see that the people everywhere in Rio are generally far more healthy-looking than people in the United States.

  20. Ignorance by esperto · · Score: 2

    I live in Rio and the Olympic games should not have been held here, for several reasons, but Zika is not one of them.
    The summary is phrased in way that give the impression the guy is a medical doctor, when actually he has a doctorate in law, and although he writes for the health review, he doesn't have a medical research background.
    Zika has already spread pretty much to everywhere that has the mosquito (aedes aegypt and others) and the olympics will not cause much of an impact, specially because it will happen in the winter, when the mosquito borne diseases almost disappear, because the mosquito population drops sharply due to the smaller amount of rain. And by the way, Rio is NOT the place with the highest amount of cases of any state, of either Zika or microcephaly.
    Further more, Zika is a very mild infection for the great majority of people infected, with most (~80%) not even being symptomatic, and did not grabbed the headlines until Brazilian health and safety authorities connected the increase of microcephaly cases to Zika infections.
    The only risk for the guests is if they are women, pregnant or planning to get pregnant at the times of the games, or if they fuck everything that moves (in that case, call me ^-^) and the risk of getting pregnant can be easily avoided by either not coming (as suggested) or by simply using anti-conceptional methods.

  21. Tom Clancy echo? by Archtech · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of Tom Clancy's novel "Rainbow Six", in which a small clique of conspirators plot to slash the global population so they can rule over a pristine world with more natural resources for themselves. In that novel the terrorists arrange to distribute a specially tailored virus at the Olympic Games. While lethal to anyone who has not previously been inoculated against it, the virus has a latency period of three weeks or so, allowing visitors to the Olympics to reach their homes all around the world before they fall sick - and transmit the virus to everyone around them. Luckily natural pathogens are self-limiting to a greater or lesser extent.

    While the doctor's motives may be the best, his suggestion is completely impractical. It takes years to prepare a city to host the Olympics, and most of the preparations (such as stadiums and housing) cannot be moved elsewhere at short notice.

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  22. So nobody visits Rio except for the Olympics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lack of common sense of some of the folks here is mind boggling.

    Rio has over 2 million visitors annually, Olympics or not.

  23. Two things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two things.
    One, Rio is by far not the most infected state in Brazil, that is plain wrong.
    Two, by the time of the Olympics, it will be much cooler (winter in the southern hemisphere is in June), which may affect mosquito popullations.

  24. "zika" sounds so exotic and festive by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Hey, the first banana republic Olympic games. Where the rich and privileged further bankrupt the country to shove aside the poor in a squalid 21st century hell-hole.
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    1. Re:"zika" sounds so exotic and festive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, the first banana republic Olympic games.

      oh yeah, because everybody knows Greece and Russia are Type III civilizations [not to mention nigga capital Atlanta]

      Signed: proud and white Brazilian who-would-never-trade-places-with-rednecks.

    2. Re:"zika" sounds so exotic and festive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, the first banana republic Olympic games. Where the rich and privileged further bankrupt the country to shove aside the poor in a squalid 21st century hell-hole.

      Sponsored by Soylent.

      Brazil a banana republic? It's a HUGE and extremely industrialized country. Yeah, squalid in parts and way too many prostitutes... probably the number #1 job opportunity there, ATM, but it's way underestimated by people that don't know miuuch about it...

  25. Move the damn Olympics! by kheldan · · Score: 2

    This Zika threat is no Amateur Night shit. Zika reads like something from an action-adventure movie, where the evil mastermind weaponizes a virus and releases it into the world to bring about an apocalypse. Transmission via mosquito is just the beginning, it can be transmitted from person to person, and in an adult it's mild enough that anyone who isn't specifically diagnosed with it could easily shrug it off as nothing to worry about. I could see it wrecking an entire generation (or more) if not stopped. Where the games are planned on being held is literally where Zika is the worst and you're going to have hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world show up and congregate in one place? Madness. Move the goddamned Games to some other country. We don't need to help the Zika virus spread all over the goddamned planet.

    ..and before some asshat accuses me of it: This ain't about 'brown people' or any such bullshit; if Zika became a pandemic, it would affect all people from all ethnic backgrounds. We'd have microcephaly cases in newborns all over the place, white, black, brown, yellow, or what-have-you. Let's not, OK? Move the damned Olympics!

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    1. Re:Move the damn Olympics! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down. The rate of brain defects is still like 1 in 1000, or Latin America would be doing to the US what the middle east is doing to europe right now. Not a risk I would want to take if I wanted impregnate anyone important to me, but there isn't going to be a zombified generation. At worst it will just pile more problems on the already rickety healthcare systems of these countries, and probably result in a higher than usual rate of children 'fatally falling down the stairs' for a few years.

    2. Re:Move the damn Olympics! by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      Are you scared? You look scared.

      Because Zika is a virus original from Africa thats presumed to arrive to Brasil with tourist from the World Cup last year, So 1 year has passed and I don't see a zombified Brasil (besides the current political drama)

      They can't move the Olympics, but YOU CAN like NOT GO right?, where you planning on going in the first place? Were you planning on impregnate an Olympic athlete? So yeah most of the people in this website are even allergic of sports in the tv why do you care what happens in the Olympics, oh right, the terror to the imaginary boogey man du jour.

  26. painting with the broadest brush by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    They're all damn dirty Earthers. The place is disgusting and they're all 110% corrupt. Leave them down there.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  27. Why not use irradiated mosquitos? by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

    What I would like to know is why not use another technology, irradiated sterile mosquitos, to bring down the mosquito populations, which would avoid the whole GMO issue, at least until more research can be done on it. Why must they use GMO skeeters when you have the irradiated technology which it appears would work just as well?

    1. Re:Why not use irradiated mosquitos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody is donating them? They don't come in pretty colors? (not joking about this, the GMO are colored so that we don't go killing them in a bug-spray spree).

      Whatever. It will be cold, the number of mosquitos will be down. Use a fucking condom or two, don't put your mouth where it should never be (or better yet, keep it inside your !@#$@# pants and keep yourself away from needles if you are an useless stonehead), and you won't get zika, AIDS/SIDA or any of a truckload of other sexually- and bodly-fluid- transmitted diseases.

      OTOH, you damn better have influenza A and B vaccination *NOW* (ensure it has the 2016 *South American* virii mix) so that it is at peak resistence when you get here, or you will be at a 0,05% risk of dying from H1N1.

      The death count in brazil due to H1N1/A-related SARG ("extremely acute respiratory syndrome" or something like that) is ~450 people *right now*, that's a ~23% fatality rate. And Rio has one of the *worst* healthcare in the entire country: it is either criminally negligent or too overcrowded to take you in during a severe outbreak. If you go down with SARG there, being a traveller from overseas, you are even more likely to die than the typical 23%: removing you back to the first world is *impossible* as you would not survive the plane trip, so kindly ensure your traveller health insurance is going to pay for a good and long stay on a *good* private hospital in Brazil (typical: one months until you are fit enough to travel back home), or you are *dead*. SARG requires ICU equipment to keep you alive, you don't find those in every clinic in Brazil.

      As a Brazilian, I'd be quite happy if you guys fucking stayed away. The kind of people who will spread zika around are just the kind of people one would rather never have as guests, paying or not. The locals are already suffering enough without the outbreak getting worse.

    2. Re:Why not use irradiated mosquitos? by Shimbo · · Score: 1

      What I would like to know is why not use another technology, irradiated sterile mosquitos, to bring down the mosquito populations, which would avoid the whole GMO issue, at least until more research can be done on it.

      According to Oxitec, irradiated mosquitos have trouble getting laid.

  28. Dont Panic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dont Panic!!

    Now we have a minister of health who is an engineer, politician and his party has 90% of the politicians involved in corruption !!!!

    Looking for some country to exchange !!

  29. Postpone the Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excerpted from the article:

    “All it takes is one infected traveler, a few viral introductions of that kind, in a few countries, or maybe continents would make a full-blown global health disaster.”
    Quote ends.

    We all know this is the inevitable to happen. Again one disaster on the list mentioned by Gods prophet Moses in the Holy Bible:

    ”If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law until you are destroyed.”
    Deuteronomy 28:58-61

    ”harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses...every kind of sickness ” - Zika can be included in this category. Humanity already gone through AIDS, Mad Cow disease, Black Death, Tuberculosis and some are prevailing or coming back and the new ones arise among the climate gets warmer and conditions will be ideal for then to emerge pandemic. It is not the nature producing all time new plagues but those viruses are set in advance by God and will erupt as a consequence of our disobedience to His commands and statutes. It is clearly said all the law of God is already written in the Books of Moses;

    ”If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book” - This proves the writings of apostles and followers of Jesus in the so-called New Testament lies. Also, the founder of Islam, Muhammad claimed the word of God is now in the Book (Quran) he wrote and it proves him as a liar and false prophet. What can we say about Jewish scribes? They also added their own writings into the Bible and this is the word by one prophet of God;

    “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
    for we have the law of the Lord,”
    when actually the lying pen of the scribes
    has handled it falsely?
    9 The wise will be put to shame;
    they will be dismayed and trapped.
    Since they have rejected the word of the Lord,
    what kind of wisdom do they have?”
    Jeremiah 8:8-9

    ”the lying pen of the scribes” - This is the truth concerning the prevailing lies that postpone our hearts and minds from understanding and taking heed the true word of God. God only tells His plans through His Prophets;

    ”Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing
    without revealing his plan
    to his servants the prophets.”
    Amos 3:7

    And:

    ”I spoke to the prophets,
    gave them many visions
    and told parables through them.”
    Hosea 12:10

    The word of God is only told to the prophets! Did Jesus know this?

    ”He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms.”
    Luke 24:44

    Yes! Jesus told us where to search the truth and religious preachers hide this from us and took away our understanding, the wisdom we have but understanding the word of God is what we need. Where is the understanding if gather in the place buzzing with disease carriers? These athletes and spectators in stadiums are just one sting away and they will come to you.

    Yeah, people are blinded by religious preachers! What did God command us to do?

    ”I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not lis