Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14361 Released (betanews.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via BetaNews: Windows Insider chief Dona Sarkar announced in a blog post that they are releasing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14361 for both PC and Mobile to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring. This new release includes new features, some improvements to existing features, and various bug fixes that the company hopes to iron out before the Windows 10 Anniversary Update. A LastPass extension for the Microsoft Edge browser, and Hyper-V Container, which will let you use Docker natively on Windows 10, has been added. A series of improvements have been made to Windows Ink, and the Settings app, which includes changes to the colors so it's more obvious where you are. The Blu-ray icon and Network Quick Action icon have also been updated. You can read the full list of improvements and fixes for PC here.

Comments

Not impressed... Yet

[subk]

Wake me up when Windows 10 Ultimate Final Gold Infinity comes out

Re:Not impressed... Yet

[Anonymous Coward]

Wake me up when Windows 10 Ultimate Final Gold Infinity comes out

W 10 is meant to stay a toy always. Windows as a service instead of an OS means that anyone who has made a huge investment in pro software is now searching for an older OS. Because Windows 10 is just too changeable, mercurial, incompatible and non adjustable to run any demanding software at all. For me it committed the ultimate sin, the worst fear of every sound engineer: CORRUPTING USER DATA FILES on separate disks!

Re:Not impressed... Yet

[khelms]

Wake me up when Windows 10 Ultimate Final Gold Infinity comes out

Wake me up when it's safe to turn updates back on for Windows 7.

Re: Not impressed... Yet

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean IF?

Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

A bunch of new icons and some changes to the settings dialogs. I guess that's called innovation nowadays.

I'm glad I'm still using Windows 7 for gaming and Linux for everything else.

Re:Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

But if they said truthfully that "now with 136% more accurate spying", would it impress you more? These irrelevant UI-changes are meant to act just as a smoke screen that hide the real changes on the user's data monetizing schemes.

Re:Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

And yet you and the parent probably use Google products... Oh wait you are the product sorry my mistake...

Re: Nothing for me

[hackwrench]

How does anyone expect anyone else to do something useful for them if they don't want them to listen. I used to be a lot more concerned about the clandestine nature of the trade agreements until I got a good look at the people they were keeping them a secret from. I'm still somewhat concerned, but still... Just who am I supposed to be rooting for in the big "Samaritan"/"The Machine" "Person of Interest" mash-up knowing what I know now?

Re:Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

But if they said truthfully that "now with 136% more accurate spying", would it impress you more?

Of course not, that would not be innovation, that would just be copying Google.

These irrelevant UI-changes are meant to act just as a smoke screen that hide the real changes on the user's data monetizing schemes.

And what are these "real changes on the user's data monetizing schemes"? I can't find anything in any of their filings, financial statements or indeed any way that (even as an advertiser) I can buy this information that all the slashdotters here keep saying Microsoft is selling.

Re:Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

From the Windows10 EULA:
"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."

To me it reads like they can do whatever with the user data to "protect their customers." I bet the customer is not here the one who bought OS, but some Bing customer, ie. a advertisement company. And money coming to Bing is certainly not publicly categorized into separate spyware-business.

Re:Nothing for me

[Anonymous Coward]

So you compare only the latest update to the dev branch as the only difference between it and a years old stable branch?

Nope! Not even once!

[Anonymous Coward]

Still enslaved?

NEVER10!

The escape hatch to freedom is here!

Re:Nope! Not even once!

[FatdogHaiku]

Problem is, Steve is playing by the rules Microsoft laid down, Microsoft is not...
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/05/25/1812233/microsoft-backtracks-on-nasty-trick-upgrade-to-windows-10

Nobody cares.

[Anonymous Coward]

Windows is spyware so is XBox.

Google tracks you.

Facebook profiles you.

Twitter profiles you and tracks you.

Did I mention Facebook tracks you?

Re:Nobody cares.

[Anonymous Coward]

Greetings Professor Falken,

https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/06/1834211/eric-schmidt-gets-a-job-at-the-pentagon

Re:Nobody cares.

[Anonymous Coward]

Greetings Professor Falken,

https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/06/1834211/eric-schmidt-gets-a-job-at-the-pentagon

https://vid.me/Take_Notes

Re:Nobody cares.

[Anonymous Coward]

It's the ignorance of the fact that it has happened for a longer time and at a more fundamental level:

Your cell phone company tracks you.

Your ISP tracks you

You landline phone calls can be recorded and listened to

Re:Nobody cares.

[JDeane]

All electronic communication can be tracked, encryption is probably the one form of control or privacy you have and even that is questionable as to how effective it can be. Best way to not get caught doing something? Just don't do it...

With every government on the planet wanting to know everything everyone is doing, odds are multiple agencies are profiling and cataloging your very thoughts..... not mind reading but writing patterns words chosen. Browsing habits times dates everything cross referenced they can probably tell things about us that we don't know about ourselves at a conscious level.

Re:Nobody cares.

[Anonymous Coward]

All electronic communication can be tracked, encryption is probably the one form of control or privacy you have and even that is questionable as to how effective it can be. Best way to not get caught doing something? Just don't do it...

With every government on the planet wanting to know everything everyone is doing, odds are multiple agencies are profiling and cataloging your very thoughts..... not mind reading but writing patterns words chosen. Browsing habits times dates everything cross referenced they can probably tell things about us that we don't know about ourselves at a conscious level.

Best way to not get caught doing something? Just don't do it...

And if you told that to Ed Snowden what happens? And if everybody who knows how to do right but doesn't because the US government and international co-conspirators might "catch" them? Then you have what you have right now. Facebook profiles, Google tracks. Shared info via CIA/FBI/DHS/DOJ. All sites whether they should have anything to do with Facebook or Google or not, track you with googleanalytics and gstatic and facebook.net etc. FOR INSTANCE SLASHDOT. So when they build data centers with literally your tax dollars, and store all your data including health and financial statuses, don't be surprised when later the people who USED YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO FUCK YOU UP WITH fuck you up.

Fucking pussies. It's not whether it can be tracked or not. It is tracked.

Upstream bandwidth required

[ickleberry]

What they don't tell you it requires a full 1Mbit of upstream bandwidth continuously in order to send data about the user back to Redmond

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

If they really want to pay for all that bandwidth and storage just to find out what porn everyone is watching, I say more power to them. Let them collect as much noise as possible; they'll never be able to find anything useful in all of it. Not that there's nothing useful to be found, just that there's so much noise and next to no signal.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

You seem to think a human being is doing the looking.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

One has to eventually or it doesn't matter. Do you really care is a machine sees your porn collection? If so, perhaps don't store it on one to begin with.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[spire3661]

"One has to eventually or it doesn't matter."

This shows a STUNNING lack of imagination. I dont think you understand how quickly we are racing to an AI controlled world where bots will make decisions based on things like your porn collection.

Re: Upstream bandwidth required

[hackwrench]

Wait... I WANT them to find something useful... to me. In fact, while I don't assign them the noblest of motives, at least I'm aware of what all of this is supposed to be about which is companies providing services and things to people that they actually want.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

I certainly do care if a machine under the control and access of someone else sees data I haven't chosen to share, porn or otherwise.

That data can be used to track me, identify me, identify my habits, waste my attention and money with better targeted ads, and spot the dozens of things I (and everyone else) do on a daily basis that violate one of the hundreds of thousands of obscure lines of law on the books.

That last one is huge. Almost everything is illegal by the strict letter of the law. The reason we aren't all in prison (including the law enforcement) is that humans are enforcing and judging the law and even a supreme court justice will only be aware of a tiny fraction of the law. An AI won't have that problem. I don't care who you are, you DO have something to hide even if you don't know it.

Forget your porn. Are you good with Microsoft and anyone they choose to sell the processed and evaluated data to knowing about your finances and your tax data? That time you engaged in unauthorized systems access by taking a look at HBO go with your brothers credentials to decide if you wanted to subscribe? Keep in mind, we are talking about an AI world with no common sense or reasonable exceptions and the courts have decided they can lie and instruct juries that they are only allowed to judge the facts for strict technical violation of the law and not the justice in applying the law to a particular case.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

and spot the dozens of things I (and everyone else) do on a daily basis that violate one of the hundreds of thousands of obscure lines of law on the books.

That last one is huge.

It's also an extremely stupid (thus unlikely) move for MS to make. Think about it, when your OS starts calling the cops on you, you move to another OS. Only a company hell-bent on putting themselves out of business would do that. Since the rest of your post is based on that premise, well, the rest of your post is going to be ignored.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

Yes, it isn't that a machine saw your data. The issue is that a machine controlled by someone else and with a purpose potentially in conflict with your interests saw your data. Windows 10 turns your personal computer into such a machine. Facebook, google, and your phone all do much the same. More and more your devices are no longer machines that you control, they are machines you pay for but are still controlled by third parties that don't share your interests.

Once they've got your data they can mine it with smart algorithms including more and more sophisticated AI.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

"It's also an extremely stupid (thus unlikely) move for MS to make. Think about it, when your OS starts calling the cops on you, you move to another OS."

We are talking about windows 10... where they are already doing this.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

So someone's been arrested because an AI turned them into police after reviewing their Windows 10 telemetry? Wow, I must have missed that story, that's truly frightening!

Oh, wait, no, that didn't happen at all. I'll point to the text you quoted for why it never will.

Now, I wouldn't keep any trade secrets or documents relating to un-filed or pending patent applications on a Windows machine at this point. But fear of your OS calling the cops on you? That's just retarded.

Mind you, I really wouldn't much mind if Microsoft did take steps to put themselves out of business in short order. It might get Adobe to release their stuff on Linux (so as not to be beholden to Apple) so I can finally run my platform of choice for every purpose other than testing. I just don't think that's how they're gonna do it; it would take only a single prosecution based on a false report and everyone from the project manager who greenlighted it on up to Ballmer himself would be up to their balls in charges. The company might pay for Ballmer's defense, but the rest of the lot would fry for it.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

"So someone's been arrested because an AI turned them into police after reviewing their Windows 10 telemetry?"

Straw man.

You didn't say it would be an extremely stupid move for MS to have an AI turn someone in to the police resulting in an arrest. You said it would be stupid for MS to have your OS call the cops on you. The NSA/FBI are executive enforcement branches and therefore count as "the cops" and since windows 10 sends data to the cops your criteria is already met. Whether it's MS mining the data or the NSA is it undoubtedly being mined and the algorithms and AI doing that data mining is only going to get more sophisticated from here.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

That last one is huge. Almost everything is illegal by the strict letter of the law. The reason we aren't all in prison (including the law enforcement) is that humans are enforcing and judging the law and even a supreme court justice will only be aware of a tiny fraction of the law. An AI won't have that problem.

That's what I was replying to so, no, my argument was not a straw man, it was what was, in fact, actually being discussed.

In fact, those were your words.

since windows 10 sends data to the cops

Oh? Evidence?

your criteria is already met

A) The AI reviewing and reporting was your criteria.
B) No, it has not.

Re: Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

I was merely attempting to point out that the sheer volume of data being collected means they'll likely be unable to find anything they deem useful about a specific individual, even if some very targeted algorithms are able to pick out some key information useful to the advertised services (e.g.the ones the users is using and, thus, useful to the user himself).

One complaint is that you can't turn off all telemetry in Win10 and that what you can turn off gets turned back on again by updates. Personally, while I do see the former problem, I've yet to experience the latter. Perhaps it's an issue with the beta release tracks, which should not be used on production systems to begin with and, thus, should not pose any privacy threat beyond that which was agreed to when joining the "inside track" program.

Another complaint is that a lot of the data that is (supposedly) being collected has nothing at all to do with providing you anything you may want. I also think it's a way overblown concern, as all the particularly nasty shit that could be done with this data would essentially put Microsoft out of business overnight and land everyone from the manager who greenlighted it, on up to Ballmer himself, in prison. The data we're talking about here is fingerprints of executables being run on a system, along with path and filename information, stack traces, and various other bits of performance and stability related data, in snapshots taken when certain events occur. For example, when an application crashes or an installer reports that it did not complete its installation task correctly.

The approach they're taking is a bit heavy handed and I don't particularly like it myself, but reality keeps me from screaming of rapidly descending atmospheric components and such. I have a sneaking suspicion you and I are on the same side of this.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

"A) The AI reviewing and reporting was your criteria."

The strawman was adding the requirements that they be conclusively caught doing so and that someone be publicly arrested.

You are right, I can't prove they are shipping this data to the NSA at this point. It's new, give it time. But given that we are talking about the company that bought Skype for it's perception of security and then re-engineered Skype for the sole purpose of making it possible to wiretap, a set of actions that serves no purpose but to dismantle a secure communications platform for the benefit of authorities, my assumption they are doing so is in perfect keeping with MS past behavior. They've put their money contrary to where their mouth to the tune of millions before.

Suggesting otherwise is akin to suggesting your local PD doesn't share any data with the FBI.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

The strawman was adding the requirements that they be conclusively caught doing so and that someone be publicly arrested

If it never leads to an arrest or any other consequence, who gives a fuck? I should say the real strwaman is that it matters at all if nothing ever comes of it. If not that, then that law enforcement agencies, most of which operate on tight budgets, would take this data, which brings with it a very real cost for acquisition, storage, analysis, and verification, and do nothing with it. In short, if this was happening, we'd know by now.

But given that we are talking about the company that bought Skype for it's perception of security and then re-engineered Skype for the sole purpose of making it possible to wiretap, a set of actions that serves no purpose but to dismantle a secure communications platform for the benefit of authorities

Two words: targeted advertising. There's your other purpose.

Suggesting otherwise is akin to suggesting your local PD doesn't share any data with the FBI

Logical fallacy. And, unlike you, I'm going to support my claim as I'm making it. You see, it is expected that law enforcement agencies share data, so one would be silly to suggest that they don't. That said, I have friends and family in law enforcement, at every level from small town cops and county Sheriffs, up to some of the TLAs you really seem to be worried about and the biggest complaint I hear is how difficult it is to not only get information from other agencies, but also to share information with other agencies. It's a common problem, across the board, and for damn good reason. Unless an investigation is already underway between two agencies and those agencies join forces to complete a joint investigation (after agreeing on who gets credit for it, of course), no agency is willing to trust another agency's data; a botched conviction looks bad even if it's based on someone else's bad data. But hey, how would I possibly know any of this? I'm sure my friends and family are just lying to me so I don't catch on that they all know what I did last summer.

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[shaitand]

"If it never leads to an arrest or any other consequence, who gives a fuck?"

Who said anything about never leading to an arrest or other consequence. You seem to be living in an ancient world where people aren't snatched, convicted in a secret automatic conviction court, and then stashed in an undisclosed location all under gag orders as easily as breathing the word "terror."

Re:Upstream bandwidth required

[BronsCon]

You seem to be living in a world where people have no friends or relatives who might report their disappearance. While this might describe you, I can assure you it does not describe the majority; though, having no ties to anyone who might report you missing is cause for investigation. Again, though, how would I know this? Think.

Improvements?

[Anonymous Coward]

* Infects your PC faster than any version previously released!
* Sprays your desktop and start menu with THE BIGGEST ADVERTS EVER!
* Bricks your system and disables most of your devices whilst blaming the vendor (..of course!)

Re:Improvements?

[Anonymous Coward]

* Sprays your desktop and start menu with THE BIGGEST ADVERTS EVER!

actually there isnt anything on the desktop. but in the start menu of course they will be the "biggest ever" because before this there was nothing at all. yes the one-liner "suggestions" that appear in the start menu didn't exist before and now they do, but handily there's a way you can just turn them off. we all know you average windows users are below the level of intelligence of the average linux or osx user but surely even you should be able to follow this simple guide to change a setting. you mouth-breathers tend to struggle for oxygen when you're trying to breath and froth at the mouth at the same time but changing a setting isnt a big deal.

updated bluray icon

[Anonymous Coward]

finally i a reson to update my win7.

Re: updated bluray icon

[Pop69]

What blu ray icon ?

When?

[Anonymous Coward]

"releasing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14361 for both PC and Mobile to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring"

When will it be released to the "Against Your Will ring"?

Re:When?

[Anonymous Coward]

When will it be released to the "Against Your Will ring"?

When you upgraded to Windows 10.

(And some posters will say that that has already happened in the Win7/8/8.1 ring as well.)

Was the biggest feature..

[Anonymous Coward]

Was the biggest feature of this release that the OS was automatically upgraded from windows 7 by trickery?

Re: Was the biggest feature..

[hackwrench]

No, the biggest feature of the Windows Insider builds is that they start letting you have some say in what W10 should be, or pretend to let you... I'm sorry, but I find myself having trouble typing this with whatever's the text equivalent of a straight face.

Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd love it if Microsoft brought their new Edge web browser to Linux and OS X.

While I don't like Windows at all, and rarely use it, I have found Edge to be a fast, responsive, standards-compliant web browser.

It's more usable than Chrome is, and it's nowhere near as slow and bloated as Firefox is.

I think that it would easily supplant Firefox on Linux and possibly on OS X. While OS X users can also use Safari, Linux users are forced to choose between Chrome/Chromium and Firefox if they want a modern browsing experience. Opera used to be another choice, but the newer versions are essentially Chromium. Those who don't want to use Chrome are condemned to using Firefox. But Edge would give these Firefox users another viable choice that isn't Chrome or Chromium-based.

In the end, the only people using Firefox would be those who use it for ideological reasons. Everyone else would use Chrome/Chromium or Edge instead, because they provide a superior browsing experience compared to Firefox.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

What color is the sky in your world?

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[MightyMartian]

JEsus Christ, this shill never fucking stops.

Edge is horrible. It has to be the most featureless, unstable piece of shit seen in the browser world in years. I'd rather use a nightly build of Firefox than that worthless hunk of junk.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[PublicSchill]

Fast? Responsive? Wow, you must be use a nice computer... just scrolling is a magnitude slower than Firefox, and Firefox is already slow. Not to mention you can't use adblock so thus pages already load as if you're on dial-up compared to a browser with cookie/advertisement blocking. Oh, and there are other browsers forked from Firefox if you hate chromium so much. Ones that don't include Mozilla crapware preinstalled.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow, you have anger management problems. That is incredibly clear through your history of extremely aggressive posts on here. I've seen you fly into massive fits of rage whenever someone posts or replies to you and expresses doubt that humans are causing global warming. It's as if, despite the extreme preponderance of evidence that humans aren't causing global warming, you're desperately wanting it to be true and lashing out at anyone who says otherwise. It sure seems that whenever someone says something you don't like, you feel that you have justification to attack them with little or no bounds to your bad behavior. Apparently your abusive posts extend beyond global warming. But no matter how much you say otherwise, Edge is a good browser and humans aren't causing global warming. Accept that people have different views than you, which are actually supported by strong evidence. Move on and chill out. You'll be glad you did.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

The last several preview releases (including edge) now support adblock extensions. Reading, it's fundamental.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[sexconker]

Please brush up on your grammar and syntax - they're fundamental.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Not everyone is a native English speaker, rude moron.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Was going to ask what you're smoking but then realized I already knew the answer...

Microsoft cock.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[subk]

Says the guy who used a hyphen to do the job of a semi-colon.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[hackwrench]

Hey, like you, I don't like Edge, but not like you, I appreciate the ability to file bugs that unlike any other browser comes with using Nightly, keep on top of your bugs and they do get fixed... for the most part and I 've had a better track record with Nightly than release versions of the other browsers, which largely revolves around how I'm visually impaired and how browsers respond when I crank the font size up... got a tracking bug on elements of Nightly that do not play nicely with Windows 10 default font sizes set to 20. Microsoft does its part in messing with me by resetting the default font sizes to 9 every time it installs a build, which it probably will do again when I download this build.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

> despite the extreme preponderance of evidence that humans aren't causing global warming,

You are quite right, humans aren't causing global warming. Cars, factories and power stations are, or indeed anything else burning fossil fuels.

Humans don't put out much CO2 and this all originates in plant matter that has taken CO2 out of the atmosphere.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Lead Butthead]

The last several preview releases (including edge) now support adblock extensions. Reading, it's fundamental.

Coming from MS, I do wonder if it blocks all but MS ads.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

What star does your planet orbit?

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[MightyMartian]

Why do you follow me around making this post. I actually accept AGW.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Mostly I'm trying to point out the extreme level of disrespect with which you treat anyone who doesn't agree with your views. Perhaps you should be a little nicer to people. Treat people with a little more respect and this won't happen.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[hackwrench]

Just remembered... I don't know how standards compliant Edge is, but apparently there was a page the other day that Edge couldn't handle, apparently because the page wasn't standards compliant enough, and Edge offered to pass it to IE for me.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, that's right. Be nicer or else random anonymous losers will follow you around on Slashdot and make weird pointless posts largely unrelated to the topic on hand. You've been warned!!

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Chickenshit coming in here telling people how to act as an AC? Get over yourself.

No, I'm not associated or affiliated with anyone in this thread...I just think that it's really easy to throw rocks from a place of security. At least the parent has the common decency to claim his own successes and failures (via Username)...you're probably APK or some such shit.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[pezpunk]

id like to express the exact opposite of every single thing you just said.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm guilty of this as well, but to be fair most English speakers (readers) seem to get confused by a semi-colon.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[sexconker]

A semicolon would have been inappropriate there; "they're fundamental" shouldn't be separated from the rest of the sentence that way. The hyphen was used correctly, though I could have also used parentheses. I chose not to because the formatting of my sentence was specifically crafted to use a hyphen (in order to highlight the errors the AC committed).

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[myowntrueself]

Wow, you have anger management problems. That is incredibly clear through your history of extremely aggressive posts on here. I've seen you fly into massive fits of rage whenever someone posts or replies to you and expresses doubt that humans are causing global warming. It's as if, despite the extreme preponderance of evidence that humans aren't causing global warming, you're desperately wanting it to be true and lashing out at anyone who says otherwise. It sure seems that whenever someone says something you don't like, you feel that you have justification to attack them with little or no bounds to your bad behavior. Apparently your abusive posts extend beyond global warming. But no matter how much you say otherwise, Edge is a good browser and humans aren't causing global warming. Accept that people have different views than you, which are actually supported by strong evidence. Move on and chill out. You'll be glad you did.

Ok, lets see if MightyMartian is a SJW.

Windows 10 and global warming are definitely not LBGTQ issues. They have absolutely nothing to do with trans community please stop trying to drag the LBGTQ agenda into absolutely everything.

grab popcorn.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[myowntrueself]

Not everyone is a native English speaker, rude moron.

And many people who are native English speakers can't be bothered fussing over every little detail of English grammar or spelling!

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[MightyMartian]

Perhaps i could quit stalking me APK

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the best troll I have read in years. You, sir, should be proud.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

53 rupees have been deposited into your loo. Thank you for your work at Microsoft Promotional Services!

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

You are wrong. A hyphen is used to join words, not clauses. Using a semicolon would have been correct in that statement.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Darinbob]

Can it do noscript and adblock? If not, it's not worth looking at. Maybe Firefox is slow to some people, but with most javascript disabled it's feels pretty responsive to me. I don't know how you'd get a "superior brownsing experience".

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh yes the psuedonymous post is just *so* much more valid because it has a psuedonym attached! All the claims he made could easily be debunked if they are untrue but instead the response is a rage-induced, explitive-laden post. Frankly from the tone of the post I feel sorry for that red-faced moron's keyboard. That instead of debunking the claims with facts it just sent him into an emotional fit of rage demonstrates that his view on this is not at all objective.

Are the claims true? I don't know, but clearly the mere suggestion of them has hit a nerve with MightyMartian and unleashed his rage rather than producing a proper rebuttal. That is *clearly* not a normal response, that is the response of somebody on the verge of an aneurism or heart attack at the slightest provocation.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[gl4ss]

why you need to download a new os and nuke your settings, which it says it preserves.

the real problem with using a combo of windows 10, visual studio(latest megauberblabla kit), chrome and firefox is....

that it becomes almost impossible to tell if you have actually a virus or some bitcoin miner on your kit. because of the virtualization and shadow copies and other ntfs options and pisspoor firewall defaults and even poorer cert management/verifying, and stuffing everything to run in the services process for no reason at all.

and since ms decided to enable by default all different sorts of ways to tunnel data(for their shitty telemetrics, no doubt) you can't easily just throw it behind a router/firewall either. you have to disable half the operating system after install.

and then fuckin' google comes in and decides to not give an option to disable webrtc on android chrome, so wtf, should I put then on separate networks?

  - and you know what they actually want you to do? buy a friggin MDM solution. MS is to blame for a lot of shit on windows 10 but thats just because they're copying stuff from others.

coming up on next version: pay a software provider a fee that the sw provider uses to pay MS for a license : to install a proper firewall! I mean, samsung is getting away with that shit already on android(yes, samsung provides apis for uninstalling bloatware, adjusting fw and everything on non-rooted android devices, but it involves a license from them. if you ever wondered why there isn't a free working system package disabler for latest galaxy devices then that is it, you need to have an enterprise license to enable that functionality without rooting).

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[MoarSauce123]

Why? Because Linux and OS X have not enough crappy browsers to chose from? Edge is a carbon copy of IE11 with the legacy support stripped. Microsoft even copied the same bugs over into Edge.Edge is by far not standards compliant. Sadly, none of the browsers available today are. They are standards compatible at best.

Re:Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

It is so busy downloading its own ads and sending data back I don't think it has time for showing other ads and rrinning scripts.....

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

When it joins clauses, it's called a dash. Same keyboard symbol, different name, different job, grammatically correct.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

No a dash is a different symbol which is slightly longer than a hyphen.

This is a hyphen: -
This is a dash: —

Although the dash is commonly used in place of a semicolon, especially informally, it is not grammatically correct.

Re: Microsoft: bring Edge to Linux and OS X!

[Anonymous Coward]

Small, soft dick?

Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Hylandr]

Windows 10 is just another way to say 'Herpes'.

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know, by avoiding sexual contact, kissing, and the sharing of foods, drinks utensils, and other mouth-things, you can actually avoid the various herpes. Can the same be said of Windows 10?

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

Hmm you might want to try a metaphor the readership here can relate to.

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Anonymous Coward]

Windows 10 is like fucking your car exhaust and getting tetanus from the rust?

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Hylandr]

Don't plug your windows 7 box into the internet, basically the same deal.

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Sponge Bath]

Windows 10 can see your searches about herpes and serve you ads for medication. Windows 10 knows. Windows 10 cares.

Re:Sexually Transmitted Downloads

[Brewmeister_Z]

Windows 10 is a different virus.

Windowstenfluenza - Symptoms include can't find your files, nausea, headaches, fits of rage...

so

[Anonymous Coward]

Have they made the favorites menu in Edge not suck? Because that would be, like, less of an embarrassment.

Re: so

[hackwrench]

Don't remind me how Microsoft decided the Edge favorites menu in the previously current build needed to be completely broken and not just hobbled as in previous builds.

Er...thanks for posting the release notes?

[xxxJonBoyxxx]

Er...thanks for posting the release notes? (What a lot of boring cruft.)

Screw that bloated advertising platform

[Anonymous Coward]

#never10

Slow news day?

[Simulant]

I gave up beta testing for Microsoft years ago.

Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[bigdady92]

Does this docker image allow for micro instances of both linux and windows or strictly windows?

This matters to me as I have a ridiculously overpowered workstation (Thank you MS/FB for selling all your 2011 v2s for pennies) that would be able to run Docker machines without breaking a sweat. I wouldn't bother with Windows Images, but Linux images would be awesome.

Re:Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, but only because the container technology doesn't care about the guest OS.

Re:Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[ArchieBunker]

Does anyone use this docker shit? What is it actually for?

Re: Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[hackwrench]

I hear it has something to do with pants.

Re: Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah yes, I hear pants is the final boss of the internets.

Re: Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[clovis]

I hear it has something to do with pants.

Yes, I believe Dockers is the pants for pouring hot grits down.

Re:Docker: Windows or Linux images?

[Anonymous Coward]

The hipsters at my office talk about it constantly and they try make all of our internal tools to use it also. Our toolset consists of few dozen of command line tools written in bash, python and C and each should be distributed in a separate container. It seems to be irrelevant that the each executable takes forever to launch, they don't share the already loaded code with other instances and contain unknown amount of unpatched security holes. But hey, containers is the new virtualization which fixes every problem.

" The Blu-ray icon and Network Quick Action"

[Anonymous Coward]

Updated icons! Ooo, sign me me up, that's a must have!

Ad blocker?

[Fragnet]

No ad blocker for edge yet, then? The web experience without one is fucking terrible.

Re:Ad blocker?

[WheezyJoe]

Yes! Edge HAS Adblock Plus, starting with Insider Build 14342. Testing it in Virtual Box, working as advertised. Not quite enough for me to switch from Chrome, but this puts Edge ahead of mobile Safari or mobile Chrome, which to my knowledge still do not support extensions (if Google permits AdBlocking extensions on Android, I'd like to know about it).

Re:Ad blocker?

[Fragnet]

Oh wow. So not long to wait then.

The Windows "nanoserver" docker image is 817MB

[pointybits]

According to the quickstart guide the Windows "nanoserver" docker image is 817MB. The Alpine Linux image is 5MB. Which is more "nano"?

Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Windows 10 is just best http://usaalluniversity.blogsp...

How is this particularly newsworthy

[hackwrench]

I haven't been particularly attentive to my computer lately and I 've been running these builds, and Slashdot got me this info before I got it from the Feedback Hub just because I happened to check Slashdot on my Android phone. Steam hasn't been displaying web pages on recent builds, but I haven't seen much noise about it so that might be a misconfiguration unique to me. Microsoft's determined to make Windows even more of a black box they don't want people to see inside, which will be just fantastic for malware makers and may help them get their foot in the door for making console malware.

Whoah

[JustAnotherOldGuy]

"The Blu-ray icon and Network Quick Action icon have also been updated"

Updated icons? Good lord, will this astounding innovation ever stop?

Re:Whoah

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh please, fuck off. If you don't mind a UI that looks like rotten ass, head on over to Distrowatch and cram a Linux distro up your ass.

Re:Whoah

[Sponge Bath]

It's every bit as innovative as a rose gold watch band from Apple. The future is here. Flying cars can't be far behind.

Re:Whoah

[Anonymous Coward]

Updated icons? Good lord, will this astounding innovation ever stop?

Stones and glass houses much? You know if the Linux community spent less time making snide remarks to eachother about Microsoft then maybe they wouldn't have let half a dozen developers push their agenda with systemd and fuck up virtually the entire desktop Linux ecosystem. Not to mention that outside of proprietary corporate projects like Google's Android the best "innovation" to come from the Linux community has been the steady stream of excrement that includes Gnome3, Unity, Mir, systemD, PulseAudio, Wayland, etc

Re:Whoah

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh please, fuck off. If you don't mind a UI that looks like rotten ass, head on over to Distrowatch and cram a Linux distro up your ass.

Ah, it seems we have a tough guy from the Windows 10 team posting, displaying the same attitude in print as the operating system does in action. Lovely, isn't it? Explains a lot, too.

Re:Whoah

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh please, fuck off. If you don't mind a UI that looks like rotten ass, head on over to Distrowatch and cram a Linux distro up your ass.

Be sure to pick an old one that hasn't caught design disease yet. Because of proprietary drivers refusing to work with a mixed architecture setup (64bit kernel, 32bit userland, which allows me to test builds of both varieties while staying mostly 32bit), I had to dial my setup down from GNOME to MATE. Icons look quaint but I actually can recognize them again. I can discern the battery load from the battery icon more or less reliably. A lot of drag&drop on user interface controls (like the virtual desktop preview to windows and back) works as expected. Right-clicking on things actually gives me the options i need.

I am aware that the desktop is visible all the time while desktop interactions only occur occasionally, but hey, if the interactions do what I naively expect of them and make it easy to find things, to hell with smooth looks.

Oh, and I've had the Windows 8 experience when doing the dual-boot setup on my father's laptop. Apparently that's where GNOME design disease gets its inspiration. I'm not interested in eye candy as a consolation prize for a hand-wavy unworkable approximation of a user interface.

Why can't all those idiots improve what they have rather than restart from scratch all the time?

Re:Whoah

[Anonymous Coward]

Coincidentally, I think your entire sentence could be turned around. Something about different people liking different styles.

TH2 Windows 10 leaves a lot to be desired

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been on the preview since the beginning (on my personal laptop) and the last insider build (haven't gotten this one yet) is a vast improvement over over TH2 which was the big update they had in November. I feel like I've taken a trip back in time whenever I have to use a TH2 computer.

Colors

[Daetrin]

Have they made it so i can change the color of the taskbar to any color i want? (Without installing Classic Shell.) More importantly, have they made it so i can change the text color in the taskbar, and more importantly the systray? Really it would be nice if they just enabled all of the settings that you _used_ to be able to set via the .theme files.

I was able to change the color of my taskbar to a nice light grey with Classic Shell and by switching to the AeroLite theme i was able to get black text in the actual taskbar. But the text in the systray is still white on light grey, making it practically unusable.

Re:Colors

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm hoping for a Plus! Pack. With a nice Windows 95 theme. Maybe some cloud wallpapers.

Re: Colors

[hackwrench]

The color of the Taskbar can be changed, but it shares that color with other Windows elements. I've submitted feedback for more granular control.

Re: Colors

[Daetrin]

Good point! It _is_ possible to change it, but as you said it's linked to other elements that i don't necessarily want to be the same color as the taskbar, and the choice of colors they give you is _very_ limited. Even if i were willing to have the title bars be the same light grey that color wasn't an option without resorting to a 3rd party program.

Hyper-V

[WheezyJoe]

The steady work on Hyper-V seems impressive with each release... M$ seems to be giving this product a lot of love, but does M$ permit you to run another M$ OS in it, or am I right they expect you to buy another license?

It kinda feels like a rip to pay full-price for a license for an OS that's only gonna run in a virtual machine. Running as a guest, you'll never realize the full benefits of many of the OS' features (e.g., Direct X). So, why pay full price?

Windows 7 Pro gave you a free licensed copy of XP, back when XP was still a supported OS. Apple let's you run as many instances of virtualized OS X as you like (so long as your host is Apple hardware, if you're reading the fine print). Linux, of course, is free. But having a virtualized M$ OS is just convenient to have, for testing, rolling back an undo drive, true virtual workspaces, all sorts of stuff. If M$ packaged a canned version of 10 with Hyper-V, that could get interesting.

Re:Hyper-V

[myowntrueself]

The steady work on Hyper-V seems impressive with each release... M$ seems to be giving this product a lot of love, but does M$ permit you to run another M$ OS in it, or am I right they expect you to buy another license?

It kinda feels like a rip to pay full-price for a license for an OS that's only gonna run in a virtual machine. Running as a guest, you'll never realize the full benefits of many of the OS' features (e.g., Direct X). So, why pay full price?

Windows 7 Pro gave you a free licensed copy of XP, back when XP was still a supported OS. Apple let's you run as many instances of virtualized OS X as you like (so long as your host is Apple hardware, if you're reading the fine print). Linux, of course, is free. But having a virtualized M$ OS is just convenient to have, for testing, rolling back an undo drive, true virtual workspaces, all sorts of stuff. If M$ packaged a canned version of 10 with Hyper-V, that could get interesting.

What virtualisation system is used to run OSX VMs?

Re:Hyper-V

[WheezyJoe]

OS X El Capitan builds and runs as a guest under Virtual Box, although the "additions" don't work and you don't get sound (I've tried it, it works).

OS X as a guest is also fully supported by commercial products like Parallels Desktop 11 and VMware Fusion (for Mac).

Re:Hyper-V

[armanox]

Also works on VMWare ESX[i] if the host is a Mac.

Re:Hyper-V

[armanox]

If you have the licenses you can run Windows VMs (including virtualized copies of appropriately licensed physical machine), and you can run some Linux VM (Ubuntu, Red Hat, Cent, and SuSE). Other operating systems (non-blessed Linux versions, OS X, BSD Unix, Haiku, Solaris, IllumnOS, etc) generally do not work at all.

Re:Hyper-V

[Anonymous Coward]

BSD works just fine as do other versions of Linux. I use FreeBSD and Slackware on Hyper V. Hell FreeBSD is even a SUPPORTED OS on it.

Re:Hyper-V

[Anonymous Coward]

If you have the licenses you can run Windows VMs (including virtualized copies of appropriately licensed physical machine), and you can run some Linux VM (Ubuntu, Red Hat, Cent, and SuSE). Other operating systems (non-blessed Linux versions, OS X, BSD Unix, Haiku, Solaris, IllumnOS, etc) generally do not work at all.

Huh...? Linux is a first class citizen. And FreeBSD has the drivers built-in for Hyper-V.

https://wiki.freebsd.org/HyperV

Re:Hyper-V

[armanox]

Huh...? Linux is a first class citizen. And FreeBSD has the drivers built-in for Hyper-V.

Not been my experience. You have to be very careful about which versions of which distros you install, what generation of VM you use for a particular version, etc. Give you an example - Networking did not work at all for Oracle Linux 5 with Oracle's kernel (and it was a situation where I had to match another system that was setup (matching the Linux configuration found on an ODA). I've also had some interesting networking issues with Ubuntu 14.04 where the NIC randomly receiving traffic (but can still send).

I'll also admit to not having tried FreeBSD (recently). Last BSD I tried was OpenBSD and there were too many missing drivers (once again, networking)

Re:Hyper-V

[bloodhawk]

So basically you are making statements of fact about the present based on very very dated experience?

Re:Hyper-V

[armanox]

Not dated. Most of these attempts (OEL 5 and OpenBSD) were done summer/fall 2015, and the Ubuntu try was Jan 2016. There has been no new release of HyperV in that time (using Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2, Ubuntu 14.04 was the most recent LTS release at the time, and OEL 5 is the current OS release for the Oracle Database Appliance (next version Oracle tells me will move to OEL 6).

NotMightyImbecile, still stinging? Yes, lol!

[Anonymous Coward]

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* You're a BIG talking, do nothing CHUMP & nothing more... which I absolutely LOVE crushing "ne'er-do-well" talkers like you into the dirt for, with facts...

APK

P.S.=> Like most of "your kind" on this planet? Above ALL else, a scumbag loser like YOU knows it - how can I say that?? Hell - your use of a FAKE NAME ONLINE proves you have nothing to be proud of, so you act the weasel punk online instead... apk

I am sure after the Titanic was listing at 10%....

[Anonymous Coward]

Yep, I am sure there were some that started to bail water when the Titanic hit 10%... How did that work out???

Hosts = for any browser & far better

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Vs. addon bs APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus (slows you) + less security issues/complexity. Compliments firewalls (w/ layered drivers vs less used IP addys vs. hosts block more used domains) & DNS (lighten dns load). Gets data via 10 security sites.

Ads rob bandwidth/speed, security (malvertising), privacy (tracking) + anonymity.

Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively. Hosts != ClarityRay blockable (vs. souled-out inferior wasteful redundant slow usermode addons)

Works vs. caps & HTTP PUSH ads w/ firewalls.

Avg. webpage = big as Doom http://www.theregister.co.uk/2... & ads = 40% of the size.

APK

P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/... (Verified by Malwarebytes' S. Burn "I've seen the code & it's safe" http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... )

Lipstick on a pig

[jenningsthecat]

And this pig installs itself in your life whether you want it or not, and then spies on you. So who gives a crap about the damned lipstick on this oinker?

Hey Dona Sarkar!

[Anonymous Coward]

Wake me up when you've removed the telemetry COUGH COUGH SPYWARE from Windows 10, and sacked the turd-sucking asshole whose idea it was.

Changes to the colors?

[Anonymous Coward]

Settings app, which includes changes to the colors so it's more obvious where you are.

So which color have they chosen to represent Windows 10 Update, also known as "up shit creek without a paddle"? I thought brown was for Ubuntu.