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Microsoft Announces Xbox One S, Project Scorpio Gaming Consoles (engadget.com)

Details of Microsoft's rumored new console have dropped ahead of the company's conference at E3 tradeshow Monday. It appears the long-anticipated smaller and more powerful variant of company's current console is real. According to a leaked press render, Microsoft will be announcing the Xbox One S (where S stands for Slim) at the gaming event. The Xbox One S will be 40 percent smaller than the Xbox One, and pack in more powerful processing and graphics muscle. According to the render, the Xbox One S will come with a 2TB hard drive, and feature support for 4K video playback and High Dynamic Range. According to separate reports, the Xbox One S is likely to be priced at $399 for the 2TB variant. Update: 06/13 16:58 GMT by M : Microsoft has officially taken the wraps off the product. It will be available for purchase starting August. AnandTech has more details.Also at its event, Microsoft announced Xbox Play Anywhere. The Verge reports: It lets you buy participating cross-platform games once, and own them on both platforms. If you buy a game on Xbox One it will simply appear in your Windows 10 library, and vice versa, and your saved games, achievements, and other information will carry over between the two versions.Microsoft also unveiled "Project Scorpio", a high-powered Xbox One launching next year that is capable of supporting 4K content as well as virtual reality headsets. "We are creating more choice in your gaming experience than ever before," said Xbox chief Phil Spencer to open Microsoft's E3 conference. No word on its pricing yet.

144 comments

  1. not enough by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    they should make it 100% smaller and stop polluting slashdot

    1. Re: not enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really feel that way, vote Trump.

    2. Re: not enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really feel that way, vote Trump.

      But then it would be HUUUUUGE.

    3. Re:not enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi Milo!

  2. Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does anything need an optical drive in 2016? You can't use the console without an internet connection anyway.

    1. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      People do still buy BluRay discs, you know. Not everybody has drunk the streaming Kool-Aid. Some people still like to own a physical copy of media they buy.

    2. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You certainly can use it without an internet connection. Buy a game on disc, install from disc, play single-player or local multi-player. No internet connection required.

    3. Re:Optical Drive....? by DrXym · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Because downloading a 50GB file is not something people like doing. Aside from that, digital copies tend to cost more money and of course you can't sell, loan or donate them as you see fit.

      Microsoft originally intended to embed a unique serial # into each disc so that it became bound to the first account that played the game. A bit like a product code. Turns out people really hated that idea. It was partly this and the Kinect debacle that gave the PS4 an early lead.

    4. Re:Optical Drive....? by blackomegax · · Score: 2

      The games are all 50-60GB and very very few people have enough internet to handle that very well. Plus, physical media is great DRM.

    5. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playstation 4 smokes the XBox.

      dabbbft

    6. Re:Optical Drive....? by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      I have drunk the streaming Kool-Aid as has the rest of my family. Actually handling physical discs is rubbish, especially with young children.

      However it's our "own" streaming Kool-Aid and as such we need physical CD's, DVD's and BluRay's to rip from. A good VDSL2 internet connection with lots of upload means we all share the same server despite being located all over the UK.

    7. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something occurred to me tho, do you really need 100% of the assets downloaded at first game start to start playing? A lot of the digital content should be cutscenes and audio for later levels in the game. Couldn't you have the core assets download (for level 1) then download the rest of the assets in the background while the player is playing, or just leave the console plugged in overnight to gather the rest?

    8. Re:Optical Drive....? by akvalentine · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the XBONE does that. At least, I assume so since I can start playing a game when it is only partially downloaded.

    9. Re:Optical Drive....? by westlake · · Score: 2

      Why does anything need an optical drive in 2016?

      There are no bandwidth caps on delivery through Amazon Prime. 4K Blu-ray quality HDR video with theatrical sound? Not a problem. Exclusive streaming-media deals? Not a problem if you pre-order the disk.

    10. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lead that pretty much still lasts to this day. Funny how Sony managed to avoid the same fate by going second at E3 that year - allowing them to quickly do a secret 180 on their own plans.

      They admitted months after E3 that they did indeed have pretty much the same plans for the PS4 as Microsoft had for the Xbone, but the way Microsoft got pretty much booed off the stage made them axe the plans.

      Essentially the PS4 was going to cost an extra 100 dollars (same as the Xbone) require the PS Eye (their equivalent to Kinect) and they had a similarly harsh anti-used game DRM scheme in mind.

    11. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget: XBONE

      The idiotic name made me hate it before I learned about the idiotic spy camera/microphone and the DIVX part 2 plans.

    12. Re:Optical Drive....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now it's XBONES I'm not sure if they're working towards a whole skeleton or an erotic adaptation of the Enterprise sickbay.

    13. Re:Optical Drive....? by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      The xbox one *does* do that, but I have never seen a game that wasn't horribly unplayable until it was fully installed. And most games have a huge (mandatory) day-1 update, so owning the physical copy doesn't help much either.

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    14. Re:Optical Drive....? by Tharkkun · · Score: 1

      Why does anything need an optical drive in 2016?

      There are no bandwidth caps on delivery through Amazon Prime. 4K Blu-ray quality HDR video with theatrical sound? Not a problem. Exclusive streaming-media deals? Not a problem if you pre-order the disk.

      I have Comcast Internet. If Comcast puts a cap out then it doesn't matter what Amazon does.

    15. Re:Optical Drive....? by terjeber · · Score: 1

      Actually handling physical discs is rubbish

      Only if you don't care about image quality, and if you don't care about image qualit, wtf do you worry about 4K or even HD for? Streaming HD quality is marginally better than SD. If you have a 40-45* TV and sit ten feet away, you can not really see the difference between streaming HD and SD. Streaming 4K content today is of lower at times significantly so, quality than 1080p. Watching 4K content on Neflix is terrible. The footage is sharpened to the unwatchable. But hey, if you don't care about image quality, that's OK. Just get the biggest, cheapest TV you can get. Don't ever get a 4K TV.

    16. Re:Optical Drive....? by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Why does anything need an optical drive in 2016?

      There are no bandwidth caps on delivery through Amazon Prime. 4K Blu-ray quality HDR video with theatrical sound? Not a problem. Exclusive streaming-media deals? Not a problem if you pre-order the disk.

      I have Comcast Internet. If Comcast puts a cap out then it doesn't matter what Amazon does.

      I think what they are alluding to is Amazon Prime shipping a physical disk for an optical drive. Do not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of hard drives speeding down the highway, nor a delivery truck bringing blue-ray disks.

  3. with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We will update the story when things become official.

    Like Microsoft's little bitch site.

    How much did they pay for the red title banner?

    Will you be able to see the spyware better in 4K? Are the specs faster or the same just lagging on more pixels you can't see? If you wear glasses will you get 360 noscope's in 4K? Will the smaller size fit in your pocket next to bribe money?

    1. Re:with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It supports 4k, that doesn't mean it'll render everything in 4k. Just as previous consoles up-scaled 720p rendered games and called it 1080p this will probably render at 1080p then up-scale to 4k.

    2. Re:with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, so it's all just an elaborate ruse story to distract from the point that Microsoft (aka spyware) is the American Government's bitch?

    3. Re:with 2x the spyware? by thaylin · · Score: 1

      Doesnt the red title mean it was recently greenlit?

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    4. Re:with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have that backwards.... The government is M$'s bitch. That's why they spend all that money for software when the government should be one of the first adopters of open formats and source.

    5. Re:with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have that backwards.... The government is M$'s bitch. That's why they spend all that money for software when the government should be one of the first adopters of open formats and source.

      Wrong. Remember the anti-trust case where they were threatened to be split into two companies unless they _???_ Notice they are still one company? They play ball out of fear of being killed by the CIA.

      Bill is just one great big fucking pussy waiting to get fucked.

    6. Re:with 2x the spyware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no.

    7. Re: with 2x the spyware? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 0

      LOL. Dumbass ACs still think a red story banner means it's special. Here's a hint: It isn't. But you are.

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  4. Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ill never understand the push to make every console/computer 10% smaller with every generation.

    I dont remember ever thinking my xbox was too big. I dont remember wishing it was smaller.

    Wishing it was more reliable, absolutely.... wishing it didnt take forever to load, yes again.

    But smaller? Thats never been on the want list for any console ive ever had.

    1. Re:Smaller = meh by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Smaller XBox:
      * cheaper to manufacture (less materials);
      * cheaper to ship.
      * less heat generated.
      * cheaper to manufacture - silicon die shrinks.
      --> More processing units (CPUs|GPUs) from the same silcon wafer.

      What's not to understand?

    2. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't ever remember wishing my mobile phone was smaller, until I got a new one and it was smaller, and I realized how much better it was because it fit in my pocket better. And I don't remember lately wishing my mobile phone was bigger until I got a new one and it was bigger, wish a much better screen that meant it could replace my tablet. I guess I don't know what I want; I'll just let the manufacturers tell me when my hardware needs to be replaced.

    3. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smaller is just the end result of a lot of other manufacturing improvements. If you can use fewer components, it's going to be smaller. If you can use more power-efficient components, they can be smaller because they have less heat to dissipate. Using less power lets the power supply use smaller, cheaper components. Making it smaller makes it faster to manufacture, use less packaging, and easier to ship larger quantities in the same amount of space.

      And across millions of units, the cost savings, power savings, packaging savings, and shipping savings can add up quickly.

      Smaller units are of minimal benefit to the end user, but it makes the now-outdated hardware more profitable. That makes a price reduction possible, which results in more sales. That's an immediate and a deferred benefit to the end user. The immediate price reduction means they spend less money to get the same thing. The deferred benefit comes when more people join the user community of that device and the manufacturer doubles-down on supporting it for longer. More games, more features, a longer support lifetime, etc... all of that can happen just because they made it smaller, cheaper, and more efficient, and got more users through a price reduction.

      I see your point, but smaller is a good thing when you stop and think about it.

    4. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smaller XBox:
      * cheaper to manufacture (less materials);
      * cheaper to ship.
      * less heat generated.
      * cheaper to manufacture - silicon die shrinks.
      --> More processing units (CPUs|GPUs) from the same silcon wafer.

      That's your interpretation. Mine is:
      Smaller, more processing power
      --> same or more heat generated in a smaller package
      --> more heat related issues (tearing, glitching, crashing, slowdowns).

    5. Re:Smaller = meh by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Because you really want both.
      You want a smaller phone to carry around easier, but you want a bigger screen to see and interact with.
      What people want is like the Tony Stark Cell phone with a 3D projected display. However to make it truly useful and not just impressive for hollywood it will need to project back so it can block out what is behind it and only have it display for the people who wants to see it.

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    6. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know exactly how mentally challenged you are,
      but compact encasing format increases heat with more compactness due to decreased airflow and decreased dissipation,
      and consoles compensate for this by underclocking hardware.

    7. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly, and sell 2x the $pyware. Twice.

    8. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't say more processing power does it? It's the same piece of shit sold again for cheaper materials.

    9. Re:Smaller = meh by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You want a bigger pocket. Duh.

      Carpenters/painter pants have a great cell phone pocket.

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    10. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smaller XBox:

      * cheaper to manufacture (less materials);
      * cheaper to ship.
      * less heat generated.
      * cheaper to manufacture - silicon die shrinks.
      --> More processing units (CPUs|GPUs) from the same silcon wafer.

      What's not to understand?

      Yes, making something smaller makes it cheaper to manufacture. But it also makes it much less powerful. Otherwise, tablets would be just as powerful as desktop computers. But they're not. Not even close. Why? Because more power = more heat, and smaller size = less cooling ability. Those huge fans and heatsinks on CPUs and video cards aren't there to make them look pretty.

    11. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And across millions of units, the cost savings, power savings, packaging savings, and shipping savings can add up quickly.

      Smaller units are of minimal benefit to the end user, but it makes the now-outdated hardware more profitable.

      Except "outdated hardware" isn't small. Whether you're talking about CPUs, GPUs, RAM chips, hard drives, whatever ....... the more outdated something is, the bigger it is. If you want smaller, you want newer. And the only way to get newer AND smaller is to go with components that are less powerful and less capable. And that's what you get from a smaller Xbox.

      Smaller
      Cheaper
      Faster

      You can only pick two.

    12. Re:Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never understood the whole "console" thing.

      It's a computer. It has the same x86 CPU as your desktop computer. Every component in a "console" is the same as those used in a standard desktop PC, other than maybe a few of them have been custom manufactured to make them smaller (usually accomplished by stripping out certain things) and everything is less powerful and lower quality in order to keep the price down.

      A "game console" is nothing more than a stripped down, locked down, under-powered computer. I just don't understand why someone would want that.

    13. Re: Smaller = meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because some people want the convenience of just playing a game, it's cheap, fast, and effective. Not everyone has $500-$3000 to drop on a new high end gaming PC. And not everyone has the skills to build their own. So paying $400 one time knowing that you got a decent gaming machine for at least 5 years is worth it.

  5. Re: Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The editors have no fault, it's the userbase that's to blame for not upvoting the story while it was in the firehose.

    You can try to change the userbase, or you can go to a place with a gayer userbase like Soylent news.

    Either way, the right thing to do is vote Trump.

  6. Xbox One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone know if the xbox ones had the typical ring of death problems that the 360 did? I might buy one now that they are price reduced, as long as this time Microsoft actually offered a quality product.

    1. Re:Xbox One by dstyle5 · · Score: 1

      My launch XBO has not had any issues so far and I use it quite a bit. I have about 15 friends with them and only one has had an issue thus far, his was DOA when he bought it.

      Starting with with the 360 Slim they started using big heat sinks and fans venting the hot air via slits directly above the CPU/GPU, so heat dissipation hasn't been an issue for quite some time now. I picked up a Slim shortly after they launched and its been fine so far too, the quality jump between it and the original 360 was pretty big, IMO.

  7. Me too, much? by Viol8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So Sony announced a 4K PS4 and Surprise! There's now going to be a 4K Xbox one. Well who didn't see that coming. Of course now they effectively both destroyed the console lifecycle I expect we'll soon see the law of diminishing returns kick in as people stop buying consoles because they're worried they might out of date in a few years rather than the usual 5 or more.

    1. Re:Me too, much? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm just waiting for the Nintendo Wii U 2K.

    2. Re:Me too, much? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      The next console by Nintendo is currently codenamed "NX" and according to reports, it will be capable of 4K video. It will be released in fall 2017.

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    3. Re:Me too, much? by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 1

      Well, Xbox One is 3 years old now and has as much graphics power as 8 year old PC graphics cards. Now that consoles are effectively a small-form-factor PC, using 8 years old graphics tech is really hurting it. I am surprised this is releasing so soon and at this price. I would have expected keeping the same price while using the low-end AMD Polaris GPU (who knows, maybe they are actually using that GPU, but I doubt it as it would probably cost them $130-150 for the chip alone which is half the price of the console).

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    4. Re:Me too, much? by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2

      they effectively both destroyed the console lifecycle I expect we'll soon see the law of diminishing returns kick in as people stop buying consoles because they're worried they might out of date in a few years rather than the usual 5 or more.

      Exactly the opposite. Now you can buy an older generation console for less if you don't need the latest features but still play the latest games with your friends who do rush out to buy the latest and greatest. More importantly you'll be able to play your games in higher quality later when the latest and greatest drops in price.

      If you're budget conscious this is a great change for consoles. Let's compare:

      Before:
      You buy the Xbox 360 for $199 when the Xbox One came out at $499. You don't need 1080p, you don't care that much about graphics and the xbox360 is "enough". You play that for the last few years and now you're starting to see some Xbox One exclusives that aren't coming to the 360 and you can't play with your friends who have now almost all bought Xbox Ones. So you buy an Xbox One for $299. Oh, but your copy of Battlefield 4 only works through the Backwards Compatibility feature. Oh and also you still can't play with your friends because it's still the Xbox 360 version of the game. And the game still looks like the Xbox 360 version. You upgraded but everything is the same or worse. So you now buy Battlefield 4 Xbox One Edition and have paid twice.

      Future:
      You buy an Xbox One S for $199 when Scorpio is released. You don't have a 4k HDR TV and you don't play in VR so the discounted console is a great value. You can still play with all of your friends who have the latest and greatest HDR 4k TV. After a couple years you also buy a 4k HDR TV so you want some of the new features. So you spring for the now discounted Scorpio Slim (The now-latest Xbox in 2020 is sporting raytraced reflections and shadows and global illumination lighting) for $299. Your games look awesome on your new console. You don't have to rebuy anything. Your controllers still work with your new console and you can play with gamers on the "Next-Gen" console just without the whizbang features. And to top it all off, you're able to play the same game on your tablet on the plane without having to buy a PC version in addition to the console version. The resolution is lower and the framerate isn't as good but it's good for killing time at 30k feet.

    5. Re:Me too, much? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      The problem with your theory is this....All the game devs on YouTube have been making it clear if they have to support both (which both MSFT and Sony have said is a requirement) then the original is gonna be "shit mode" with crap graphics and little to no optimization. The reason why is simple...money.

      Its not financially feasible to sink half the budget on the weak version and half on the good, if they are doing this they might as well stick to the PC, so the easiest and cheapest way to support both is spend all the money on the new version (as that is what everybody is gonna see in the commercials and on the back of the box) and then just lock the weak version on the lowest settings they can that will still get "kinda sorta" 30 FPS but mark my words within 6 months the framerate will take a dump on any heavy action scenes as they crank things up for the good version.

      So all they have really done is kill the main reason to buy a console, the fact that you get 5 years worth of games for a single console purchase. Now you will have decent game play for a couple years at most and then either buy the new version or get screwed and have the system in the "gaming ghetto" with crap graphics and slowdowns.

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    6. Re:Me too, much? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      6 months ago, there is no way in hell i would have guessed Microsoft would be putting out a ~6 TFlop console built with VR in mind. That is some serious power. We should be rejoicing, not whining ,"my 1.5 Tflop console is now worthless..... wahhhhhhh". Welcome to technology where things move fast and the hits just keep on coming. I am actually excited about the consoles for the first time since the early Xbox360 days.

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    7. Re:Me too, much? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      So tired of the 'main reason we buy console is bland uniformity and lockstep progression'. Enough, that time is over. VR blew up that pretty little world view. The truth is the last console gen went on WAY too long, and this is the result. VR is here, NOW, time to upgrade.

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    8. Re:Me too, much? by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 1

      Sony didn't announce squat. They confirmed something. In the meantime, the One S, supporting 4k video playback, will be for sale in a month. Neo? In development, with no information provided whatsoever.

      Sorry, I'm a Sony fan myself, but.. Microsoft won this round.

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  8. Alleged to be one of two new models by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If credible reports are to be believed, the XB1-S is the first of two successors to the current XB1. There is a second machine, rumoured to have significantly upgraded internals, which is apparently due next year, to compete with the PS4 Neo. This might, of course, all be proven wrong within the next few hours following MS's E3 presentation.

    But if the reports are correct, then things start to look very odd. The XB1-S described in TFA looks like a pretty normal mid-generation hardware refresh, similar to the 360-S or the PS3-slim from the last generation. It reduces the form-factor and apparently adds support for 4k Blu-Rays (the current XB1 can do 4k video output, but there is currently pretty much nothing that makes use of it), but doesn't do much else. So far, so sane. But then this is apparently only going to be given a few months on the market before a significantly more powerful "XB1.5" is released, which will offer a significantly bigger step up.

    There's something not quite right with this current console generation. It's hard to put a finger on precisely what - the sales numbers (even for the XB1) are pretty great compared to the last generation - but there is definitely something that isn't quite gelling. Despite being over two and a half years old, the software libraries for the PS4 and XB1 remain fairly thin, being light on the major exclusives that have powered previous generations and heavy on "HD remasters" of old games. If, like me, you prefer to game on a PC, the reasons to own the new consoles look pretty thin (and I sort-of regret my own purchases).

    I don't know whether there is something sinister emerging in the financials which the public can't see, but both Sony and MS seem to be spooked in a way that the numbers don't quite support (MS's position isn't what they wanted, but is also by no means bad). I still can't work out why, at a point in the cycle when they should be enjoying the huge third-party licensing fees that should be rolling in thanks to their large installed base, Sony are taking a massive gamble and splitting their user-base with the PS4 Neo. Slightly more understandable is why MS would feel the need to follow suit, but even that doesn't quite feel right. All the omens for Nintendo's NX look pretty dire, so I doubt it's that which has Sony or MS spooked.

    As I say, hard to put my finger on it, but there is definitely something odd going on.

    1. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by DrXym · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Just because it does 4K doesn't mean it will support Bluray UHD. Supporting 4K could just mean more VRAM and support for HEVC in hardware. Supporting Bluray UHD means changing the drive to read 4-layer discs and other technical requirements which Microsoft might not feel so inclined to do when the main beneficiary is Sony.

      It seems more likely that they'll toss in 4K support for streaming services and leave it at that.

    2. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spooked

      You come across as acting knowledgeable but without saying anything useful at all.

      Simple speech. Playstation 4 runs on a forked FreeBSD kernel. There is nothing Microsoft in it. On top of that there are a lot of games. On top of that the performance is better, go look up comparisons on YouTube or whatever.

      $6 says RogueyWon is a spy.

    3. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dig a big fucking tomb.

    4. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by RogueyWon · · Score: 3

      Might be right.

      One thing it certainly won't be is 4k gaming, despite some of the more excitable comments around this and the PS4 Neo. We know what practical 4k gaming requires on PC (even the new Nvidia 1080 paired with an i7 6700k isn't quite there in terms of consistently acceptable performance) and the PS4 Neo specs fall far short of that. I doubt there's a new iteration of the XB1 on the way that will be significantly more powerful than the PS4 Neo.

    5. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft can support deez nuts. Linux has no problem with Blu-Ray ever, nor does Sony. eg. from rpm.pbone.net

      Search results for libbluray :
      PCLinuxOS www.pclinuxos.com/pclinuxos/apt/pclinuxos/32bit/RPMS.updates/libbluray-devel-0.9.2-1pclos2016.i586.rpm
      Mageia Cauldron distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/libbluray-devel-0.9.2-1.mga6.i586.rpm
      Rawhide download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/x86_64/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc24.x86_64.rpm
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      Rawhide download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc24.i686.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/23/x86_64/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc23.x86_64.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/23/x86_64/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc23.i686.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/23/i386/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc23.i686.rpm
      Fedora 22 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/22/x86_64/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc22.x86_64.rpm
      Fedora 22 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/22/i386/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc22.i686.rpm
      Fedora 22 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/22/x86_64/l/libbluray-devel-0.9.1-1.fc22.i686.rpm
      OpenSuSE ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1-Current/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/libbluray-devel-0.8.1-3.2.x86_64.rpm
      OpenSuSE ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1-Beta1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/libbluray-devel-0.8.1-3.2.x86_64.rpm
      OpenSuSE ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/libbluray-devel-0.8.1-3.2.x86_64.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/23/x86_64/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.x86_64.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/23/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.x86_64.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/23/i386/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.i686.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/23/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.i686.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/23/Everything/i386/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.i686.rpm
      Fedora 23 download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/23/x86_64/os/Packages/l/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-3.fc23.i686.rpm
      SuSE Other packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/SLE_11/Essentials/x86_64/libbluray-devel-0.8.0-1.1.x86_64.rpm
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      Mageia 5 distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia/distrib/5/i586/media/core/release/libbluray-devel-0.7.0-1.mga5.i586.rpm
      Fedora

    6. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony are taking a massive gamble and splitting their user-base with the PS4 Neo.

      Except they aren't. Or, at least, they are trying very hard to avoid it. They are promising that everything (even VR) will run on both versions of the console, just nicer looking and/or with a higher framerate on the Neo. That raises the question of what the point of the Neo is, but that's what they're doing.

      But since you seem to be pulling stuff out of your ass, I'll give it a shot, too: It's possible they're going to a Nintendo handheld-like strategy. In a few years there might be a Neo 2 (or whatever) that will maintain compatibility with the Neo, but will leave the original PS4 behind.

    7. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      Just because it does 4K doesn't mean it will support Bluray UHD. Supporting 4K could just mean more VRAM and support for HEVC in hardware.

      I hope the Xbox One GPU is more than enough to decode HEVC at 4k resolution...

    8. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      :As I say, hard to put my finger on it, but there is definitely something odd going on.

      Most likely, the S version was already in development, and as soon as MS heard the rumors that Sony was developing the 4K, they decided to imitate, therefore starting development on a beefier version

    9. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what he's referring to is that Sony gets royalties for anything blu ray related

    10. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by nateman1352 · · Score: 2

      Your right, there is something amiss this time. This is the first time consoles are architecturally identical to a standard PC system. It is also the first time that none of the consoles attempted to push technology forward in any way (the chips in both consoles are nothing to write home about performance wise, even at the time of the console's launch.) At the same time, small form factor PCs like NUCs were getting popular. Combined with Steam, PC manufactures started building gaming systems that *directly* competed with consoles in the living room. All things considered, consoles are exposed to the PC refresh cycle much more than ever before. Neither Sony or MSFT were concerned since the game software developers just target the lowest common denominator anyway.

      The big miscalculation that both manufactures made is two emerging disruptive technologies have shown up. First... VR. Second, neither manufacturer predicted how aggressively TV manufactures would rapidly push the price of 4K displays down. Both of these offer compelling experiences that current gen pedestrian hardware design choices are incapable of driving. So the current gen consoles are going to end up having a short life. Otherwise the market is going to shift to the PC and leave them in the dust.

    11. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is. I've already thrown some at it, and it worked just fine (4k HEVC @60fps), although it was outputting to a 1080p screen.

    12. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm.. What planet are you living on. 4k gaming exist on the PC.

      If all they wanted to do is take the games produced on the ps4, and soup them up for 4k, then there wont be issues.

      On top of that you don't need a nv1080 on PC at all for 4k, maybe for ultra detail on latest games?

      Running a PS4 game (with its lower shadow quality, other visual effects) will totally be possible at 4k.
      https://games.slashdot.org/story/16/06/13/1518207/microsoft-announces-xbox-one-s-project-scorpio-gaming-consoles#
      Next year I'm sure XB will do the same (this year its just 4k BluRay shit)

    13. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      I have a high-end PC (i7 6700k and 980ti) and a 4k monitor. Right now, unless you are willing to tolerate very shoddy levels of performance, most of the latest games are not really practical in 4k. 1440p remains the sweet-spot. There are exceptions - Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 2, Overwatch (if you're willing to drop detail a bit), but those are generally games with low polygon counts and few lighting effects.

      Detail levels are not all that much lower in console games these days; Eurogamer's regular Digital Foundry series finds that most console games equate to "high" settings on PC. There is no way on earth the PS4 Neo is driving those settings with a playable framerate at 4k. 1440p... maybe, in some cases (though not the most challenging games, such as The Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Syndicate).

    14. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's the most plausible explanation, isn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if the XB1-S also had lower manufacturing costs than the default XB1, so it's a way of keeping the lower-spec model in circulation at a lower price-point.

      Also, not a comment about your post, but... aren't the AC fanboy horde out in unusual force today, by slashdot standards? Is there something in the water? Large parts of this comments section read more like Kotaku than slashdot.

    15. Re:Alleged to be one of two new models by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I don't know whether there is something sinister emerging in the financials which the public can't see, but both Sony and MS seem to be spooked in a way that the numbers don't quite support

      Well if there's any sinister in the financials, I'd suggest it is AMD begging/tricking them to make a new round of consoles so they can earn some more money. Maybe they've stealthily planted the idea that the other company was going to launch a half-gen console creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, maybe they offered a deal too good to refuse. It's no secret that AMD needs money to stay afloat....

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  9. Xbones? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    Like you had an xbone, now you had to buy a second one, so you have two xbones.

    Are they hoping for an old school "play dem xbones"? reference?

    1. Re:Xbones? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I never understood where people got "Xbone" from. Why would you concatenate "Xb" with "one" when the product name is "Xbox One"?

    2. Re:Xbones? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Who knows with these names man. Microsoft called it the Xbox 360 because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away.

    3. Re:Xbones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never understood where people got "Xbone" from. Why would you concatenate "Xb" with "one" when the product name is "Xbox One"?

      The product name is generally spelled out in all caps on things like the box and marketing materials: XBOX ONE

      If you cross your eyes slightly or just get a quick glance at it, it's pretty obvious why it sometimes can look like XBONE

      XBOX ONE
      XBOXONE
      XBONE

    4. Re:Xbones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that called the Moonwalk?

    5. Re:Xbones? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      I think it actually got the nickname when it was going to be some dude that has to check every day online or it won't play your games. Microsoft scrapped that negafeature prelaunch, but the term stuck and subsequently lost all or most of its negative connotation. Some consoles get nicknames, it's just how it goes. Microsoft is probably glad that "xbone" sounds kinda cool and isn't hostile.

      I'd heard that they actually chose the name "Xbox One" because the "Xbox 360" was called by most fans as 'the 360', and they wanted people to call the xbone "The One". That might just be a rumor though, I dunno.

    6. Re:Xbones? by Necroloth · · Score: 1

      so you turn 540 degrees?

  10. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Knowing what group of terrorists one is referring to is important. Were they Eco terrorists, anti-gov terrorists, radical Islamic terrorists, radical Christian terrorists or what?

    Yes, if a Christian claims his faith made him do i'd call them radical Christian terrorists.

  11. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suppressed it? Oh, do fuck off.

  12. Seattle Director's Rule by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If your machine lacks an optical drive, and the best home Internet connection in your area is satellite or cellular with a cap on the order of 5 to 15 GB/mo, good luck carrying your console and a monitor into town every time you want to install a game, even if you aren't using online multiplayer. Many rural users are in this situation due to the DSL distance limit. And in Seattle, Washington, the Director's Rule requires a supermajority of nearby landowners to approve any construction, where failure to respond counts as a no vote, and vacant properties also count as a no vote.

    1. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Informative

      Aha, I found the "Seattle has bad internet" troll. Guess what: Seattle has 1Gbps available from multiple providers. Thanks Seattle!

    2. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by tepples · · Score: 1

      Seattle has 1Gbps available from multiple providers.

      Throughout Seattle, or only in small parts? Last time I heard, the Director's Rule kept said 1 Gbps service from covering the whole city. If this changed, when did this change?

    3. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why don't they partner with game shops (and walmart and other retailers) to put a computer in their store where you can load games onto a hard drive. Bring in a USB hard drive, enter your xbox live ID or scan a barcode that corresponds to your account. An encrypted copy of the game is put on the hard disk. You bring the hard disk home, and the game is copied onto the console and decrypted by the fact that it's connected to your account. You could probably even set up a system where-by digital games could be shared/sold between different accounts by deactivating the game on one person's account, and activating it on another person's account. That way you could just bring a hard disk full of games over to your friend's house, instead of having to cart around a bunch of discs.

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    4. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Throughout! It is great. There are 3 providers offering 1Gbps, unlike most cities that have less than one providers doing the same.

    5. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it better to run a web app in a JavaScript VM or a native app in a full x86 VM?

      Native. Browsers make poor VM hosts and application development platforms.

    6. Re:Seattle Director's Rule by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      There are other formats besides MO disc.

      Look at the ubiquity of SDcard. Now, medidate on what the S in SDcard stands for, and why.

      SDCard spec supports hardware DRM and encryption. These days there are 256gb SDCards. (course, they cost a pretty penny... but more reasonable sized cards are just a few bucks.) They lack physical seek time, have baked in protections against duplication, are surprisingly durable... the only downside is their small size makes them easy to lose or misplace.

      Give it time. The choice to use sdcard instead of MO drive would allow a game console that is very rugged, very small, and less expensive.

      MO Disc is a technology on life support.

  13. Oculus Rift by backslashdot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem with trying to stuff augmented reality and VR down our throats this early is that the screen door effect is still very prominent. The only way to get rid of the screen door effect is to provide a 5K resolution display per eye. AR and VR will fail because they tried to bring it out too early.

    1. Re:Oculus Rift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks fine to me :P

    2. Re: Oculus Rift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be playing shitty games. Okay, only half kidding - it's a serious issue because there aren't a lot of games, so you very well may end up playing shitty ones. I find I notice the screen door when I go looking for it, but in decent games it's a non issue. Yes they should improve it for V2, but is anyone really disgusted by it enough to take off the headset?

    3. Re:Oculus Rift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not going to fail because its not yet 5k... Take it easy brother.

      Have you used one? Screen door is about as bad as it is watching an old lcd projector. Sure, its there a little, but you just dont care that much once you get into it.

  14. Kinetic only bundle? by Dorianny · · Score: 1

    No mention if MS is going to release the hardware-refresh as a kinetic-only bundle. The original Xbox One suffered from the higher price-point but also due to the %10 of resources which were reserved for the kinetic which meant that titles on the Xbox often ran at lower resolutions and worst frame rates then on the PS4. Eventually MS unlocked those %10 resources but with this hardware refresh they could be added on top and allow for the kinetic to run without limiting performance. A bundle is likely to be the case since unlike previous generation refresh this one seems to be positioned as a high end 4K release rather then simply a smaller cheaper console

  15. No DVR, No sale by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    The intentional exclusion of features from these devices to drive their own services means I won't be using a console for the foreseeable future. I use my PS3 almost exclusively as a streaming player now. Sony removed features from the PS4 that made the PS3 a useful device once games run dry. I can buy a NUC device and get much better ROI.

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    1. Re:No DVR, No sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you should consider buying a DVR instead of a console if you're upset that DVR capability is not included.

      Me, I definitely won't be buying one until there's a coffee maker built right into it.

    2. Re:No DVR, No sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if they do include a coffee maker it would probably be a keurig.

    3. Re:No DVR, No sale by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should consider buying a DVR instead of a console if you're upset that DVR capability is not included.

      Microsoft indicated at the onset that it was intended to be able to perform DVR functions...until they decided that they weren't.

      Buying a DVR isn't much of a picnic anymore. If you're building one, you're stuck on Windows 7 or 8.1, because MS actively removed Media Center from Win10. To my knowledge, there's no such thing as a CableCard compliant tuner for OSX. Showshifter, BeyondTV, and a number of other software-based DVR applications have all gone pear-shaped. Mythbuntu is somewhat-viable, but it's really picky about which tuner cards it supports, and even at that, it's not possible to use it with HBO or other premium channels because DRM. TiVo is still hanging on by a thread, but they cost more than an Xbox, and the service cost is about the same as an Xbox Live subscription.

      Or, dealing with the usual complement of craptastic DVRs from cable companies that are as ugly, laggy, and poorly supported as they are expensive. One can save money by buying one's own cable box from around the internet, but even if those weren't running the same terrible software as the cable companies, they're again $300-$500 a pop.

      All to make up for the fact that Microsoft removed functionality that was explicitly used to promote the product.

    4. Re:No DVR, No sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVR = recording cable or satellite = last century technology.

      Get with the times man.

    5. Re: No DVR, No sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silicon Dust HdHomerun. Networked tuner. Cablecard and ota versions. Works with mythtv and lots more. Build a dvr with one of theze.

    6. Re:No DVR, No sale by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      They never claimed they were going to add coffee maker functionality in a future update. That is the difference here.

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  16. Re:Who needs 4k by fieldstone · · Score: 1

    My current setup is a 1080p projector at about 87", and I'd be pretty hard-pressed to see a difference between 1080P and 4K even at that size.

  17. Universal and Xfinity by tepples · · Score: 1

    other technical requirements which Microsoft might not feel so inclined to do when the main beneficiary is Sony.

    And Disney, Fox, Paramount, Universal, and Warner. Universal is a big one for the following reason:

    It seems more likely that they'll toss in 4K support for streaming services and leave it at that.

    Any streaming service operated by Microsoft in the United States has to overcome peering policies of an ISP owned by Universal's parent company.

  18. Volume or Each dimension? by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    40% smaller in volume translates to 16% smaller in each dimension. Whoo hoo!! that's so exciting.

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    1. Re:Volume or Each dimension? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      40% smaller in volume translates to 16% smaller in each dimension. Whoo hoo!! that's so exciting.

      TFA is sadly lacking in details; however, the 'S' in the model name stands for 'Slim', implying that the reduction is in one dimension, presumably height. Personally, I think they should have left the measurements alone and put in a higher-capacity battery. Oh wait, that comment is for smart phones. Never mind.

  19. Xbox360 generations by phorm · · Score: 1

    Even the old XB360 had various generations though. The early ones had component video out,while later generations added HDMI (and supposedly more reliable motherboards)

    1. Re:Xbox360 generations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adding HDMI when the system is already capable of outputting HD content is not even remotely comparable to what's going on here.

  20. Comment by WallyL · · Score: 1

    Xbox One S = Xbox Ones = Xbox Two, at least, right guys?

    "Microsoft Announces the Xbox Two, Its Smallest Xbox Yet"

    FTFY

    1. Re:Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xbox Two has been done. The name is Xbox 10. No joke guys, that's the name!

  21. Selling the console at a loss by LichtSpektren · · Score: 1

    Presumably the One S will have better specs than the One; $300 for that sounds like they're selling it at a loss. What would be the prospects of buying it and not buying any games to harm Microsoft and have a decent Linux machine?

    1. Re:Selling the console at a loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prospects would be poor.

      They'd probably lose more money if you did something benign like write them a letter they had to read every couple weeks. Maybe call up tech support and invent a problem. Or really, about a million things would be a better way of accomplishing your goal. The stock increase resulting from record sales alone would negate what you're trying to do. Terrible idea. Just terrible.

    2. Re:Selling the console at a loss by LichtSpektren · · Score: 1

      Well, doing that with the PS3 was apparently so harmful for business that Sony stamped it out with a firmware update.

    3. Re:Selling the console at a loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay. Try it then I guess.

  22. Does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It runs 40% hotter?

  23. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Then either your projector is terrible or you need glasses. Likely both.

  24. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    640 pixels are enough for everybody.

    And, before I forget it: slashdot editors hate gays, that's why they suppressed reporting about the radical islamic terrorist attack for so long. And as they did, they didn't mention the term!

    Whipslash and EditorDavid should resign due to this disgrace.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by carelessness.

    I just presumed that it took so long to cover the story because they just load up a bunch of stories on Friday and let the site run on automatic until Monday.

  25. They couldn't pick something else besides "S"? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

    Seriously? I mean, I realize Apple doesn't own a copyright on the letter "S", but Microsoft couldn't think up a better moniker for a sub-release of a device?

    1. Re:They couldn't pick something else besides "S"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      S stands for spyware. They already announced plan to do speech recognition via microphone, perhaps they will now create new exciting experiences and monetizing opportunities by matching Live vision video feed to pictures taken from Linkedin.

  26. Re:Who needs 4k by frootcakeuk · · Score: 1

    then either your eyes don't work or you've never actually seen a large 4K display before

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  27. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My current setup is a 1080p projector at about 87", and I'd be pretty hard-pressed to see a difference between 1080P and 4K even at that size.

    Hmm, according to my calculations, you should be closer than 150 yards to your screen.

  28. PC Gaming Master Race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PCs aren't smaller, but they are at least 100% more powerful and useful.

  29. Re:Who needs 4k by NotAPK · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If gay people in a Christian society had to tolerate being asked "1. I don't like what you're doing so I'm going to try to "fix" you." a few times a year then I think they'd be pissed, but over all no more put-out than being asked for change by the train station.

    Do not under-sell the discrimination that the Christian church has extended towards gay people. Discrimination that affects you daily, limits your freedom, impairs you financially, and alters your self esteem.

    There is nothing redeeming about the Church's policy against gay people.

    So yes, perhaps it isn't as bad as "hang, behead, stone, or kill you in some other gruesome way" but it's still inexcusable.

    Sorry, we're well off topic. Small X-Box. Hmmm, didn't Sony do this with the Playstation?

  30. Only one way to read this by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    There's only one way to read this: OMG next quarter's loss will make the last one look like a profit, we need a distraction fast.

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  31. Re:Who needs 4k by fieldstone · · Score: 1

    I can see pixels, but only if I really strain to. I admit I'm far more sensitive to audio than video.

  32. We know this story by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 1

    Golden Goose, meet clever.

  33. Re:Who needs 4k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My tiny little 100 lumens LED DLP projector (roughly 4.5" x 3.5") only has a native resolution of 858x600 projected to about an 80" screen. If I play a game on it, I can easily notice pixels and for text it's barely legible, but when playing movies (generally downscaled 720p or 1080p), it looks perfectly fine, clear and watchable.

    This is fine because I got it to be able to watch movies and videos on a large screen when travelling.

  34. small PCIe addon card by unique_parrot · · Score: 1

    ...with encrypted flash to run xbox games on your pc, for like 50 Bucks, would be great.

  35. One Microsoft and all that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but how will the new console(s) integrate with LinkedIn?

  36. Re:Who needs 4k by terjeber · · Score: 1

    and I'd be pretty hard-pressed to see a difference between 1080P and 4K even at that size

    How far from your "TV" are you sitting? 20 feet?

  37. Re:Who needs 4k by fieldstone · · Score: 1

    No more than 8 or 10 feet I'd say.

  38. Re:Who needs 4k by terjeber · · Score: 1

    You need to go see an optometrist or an eye doctor, you are going blind.