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Obama Finally Ditches BlackBerry, Switches To Samsung Galaxy S4 (arstechnica.com)

Obama has finally been able to ditch his BlackBerry handset, something which he was stuck with for more than six years. Mr. President appeared on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon and told the audience that it was only this year that he was able to get a real smartphone. There's one caveat, though. The Android smartphone Obama has gotten is a "hardened" version, with pretty much all the unrequired features removed from it. Laughing with the audience, Obama said, the phone feels like the fake toy handset kids play with. ArsTechnica, citing documentations, claim that Obama is using a Samsung Galaxy S4 (a phone that was released in 2013), as it is the only smartphone currently supported by the Defense Information Systems Agency. From the report: The S4 is currently the only device supported under DISA's DOD Mobility Classified Capability-Secret (DMCC-S) program. In 2014, a number of Samsung devices were the first to win approval from the National Security Agency under its National Information Assurance Partnership (NIAP) Commercial Solutions for Classified (CSfC) program -- largely because of Samsung's KNOX security technology. And the S4, layered with services managed by DISA, is the first commercial phone to get approval to connect to the Secret classified DOD SIPRNet network. DISA has been working with vendors and the National Security Agency's Information Assurance Directorate to develop a Top Secret-capable mobile device for use by the Defense Department and the national leadership both on the move and within secure facilities. But currently, the highest level of classification that can be handled by commercial devices under the DMCC program is at the Secret level. Secretary of State John Kerry was a DMCC-S early adopter, and he served as a beta tester of the hardened Galaxy S4.

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  1. Can change the battery and load custom roms unlike by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can change the battery and load custom roms unlike apple

  2. Are foreign devices fully secure? by itamihn · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I don't know if I'd trust foreign technology for devices handling such sensitive information.

    1. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      South Korea is an ally.

      Actually, I don't think people realize just how close the US Military and South Korea are. The DOD probably trusts devices made in South Korea far more than they would devices made in the US due to the massive influence they have in South Korea. Remember we still have US troops stationed in South Korea and South Korea (conceptually) relies on US support to keep North Korea from invading.

    2. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

      South Korea is an ally.

      Actually, I don't think people realize just how close the US Military and South Korea are.

      Indeed, the airforces' latest advanced fighter trainer, the T-50 is a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and South Korea's KAI.

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    3. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well if it causes him problems, he can just blame someone else.

      Modus operandi.

    4. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      They're not a Five Eyes country or even a NATO member, which means there are serious limits to how far our trust extends, and what kinds of technologies we share.

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    5. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bilateral relationships can often be far closer than larger alliances can be. Trust in grand strategic alliances(like NATO) can be a tricky and far more subtle dance than I think most people realize.

    6. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what our national costume is here in the USA, but that is what Obama should be required to wear.

    7. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      There are no completely domestic devices for any country on the planet.

    8. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure what our national costume [wikipedia.org] is here in the USA

      That's easy. For men, it's

      https://chrishernandezauthor.f...

      and for women, it's this fetching ensemble:

      https://humanbreeds.files.word...

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    9. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure there is a buy American made first law on the books which would have favored Apple.

      However, in this particular instance I think the Samsung move was appropriate because they would allow a complete auditing of the device and software as well as control of the updates and such. Samsung will likely sign custum roms or even grant the secret service access to a key to sign themselves. Apple on the other hand, would likely see attempts at this as a means to backdoor their security and fight it like with the san Bernardino phone.

      Just way more flexibility in the super secret security department i guess.

    10. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      NATO? You're skitting me.

      Geography fail - how can South Korea be expected to be a signatory to a North Atlantic treaty?

    11. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For one just clusterfuck jet (F35), they could build the plant to make the phones needed for all government officials, just one less clusterfuck jet that will in the end be scrapped. So no excuse, they need smart phones, than build the infrastructure to make those phones. Than they could export, those security, milspec phones to the rest of the world, oh wait, no one trust the US government any more, well, that at least could provide it to all US agencies.

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    12. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      You're right. They should have bought a commercial smartphone that is American made.
      Oh wait, there are none.

    13. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      how can South Korea be expected to be a signatory to a North Atlantic treaty?

      Geography wasn't the point that I was making. The point I was making -- perhaps I should have stated it more clearly -- was that there are varying degrees of "alliance" with the United States of America, defined by law, treaty, and custom. South Korea is not in a category that would let them anywhere near Presidential communications -- not even the Five Eyes get that -- so the point that they're an "ally" is rather moot in this instance.

      South Korea is a Major non-NATO ally, a term with a specific legal meaning.

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    14. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Who cares? Do you really want the US government building your phone instead of at minimum appearing to be trying to look out for the defense of the country?

      Rambling about spending in one area because there could be spending in another shows the mental lapses in association with reality. If the spending wasn't happening it likely still wouldn't be happening. We are spending on credit in the first place so if there is no reason or will to spend on it now, there will be no changes if we decided to spend less on credit for whatever reason.

      You are just whining about nothing.

    15. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by AaronW · · Score: 1

      Oh, you mean like this one?

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/n...

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    16. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      How can the Czech Republic be? After all they are landlocked.

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    17. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Who cares? Do you really want the US government building your phone instead of at minimum appearing to be trying to look out for the defense of the country?

      What? Put down the crack pipe. The government appears to be funneling money to the already-rich. If it was looking out for the defense of the country, we already have superior planes.

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    18. Re:Are foreign devices fully secure? by JeffOwl · · Score: 2

      The T-X program is a "competition" meaning that they have not selected a supplier. Last I heard there were four main suppliers, three of which have a US company partnered with a foreign company: Lockheed - KAI, Boeing Saab, Northrop - BAE, Raytheon - Alenia. So, your example is misleading.

    19. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      You can't just build a phone factory. Not even Foxconn makes all the parts, not by a long way. Anyway, it would be pointless unless you also design and fabricate your own system-on-chip and modem. The amount of work to build a modem and write firmware for it and get it approved for world-wide use is pretty substantial, which is why there are so few people doing it. And then are you doing to audit every line of code in the OS too, or write that from scratch and hope you do a better job at securing it that companies who hire the best people in the industry?

      It's easier to let someone else build a phone like the GS4, then take it apart and check for spyware and bugging, and then test its security features and install your own custom software on it. And in the end, it's just as secure as doing it yourself. If you can't find the Chinese government backdoor that they somehow slipped into a Korean phone, what makes you think you will be able to keep it out of a device you designed yourself from scratch?

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    20. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Because it's a Cold War relic that non Atlantic Europe signed up for in opposition to Russia.

      But Canada and the USA are the only Pacific nations in it by virtue of bordering both oceans.

    21. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      This is dumb. America simply does not have the technology or capability of manufacturing a smartphone. There is no supply chain present that you'd need to get the parts here, there's no LCD manufacturers here in the US that could make the kind of screens found on even a 3-year-old S4, it's simply impossible. And if you're stupid enough to point to Apple as "American", the iPhone is made in China, by contract manufacturers.

      It's not just that the US doesn't make any, as you say yourself, it's that it's not even possible for the US to make any, not without investing many billions of dollars in building factories to build the components necessary, and building up the IP and technical institutional knowledge necessary. Other nations have invested in this stuff; we have not. You can't just decide on a whim to start doing this stuff; it's like Zimbabwe suddenly deciding they want to build Mars rovers and space stations and reusable rockets to launch them, or Vietnam suddenly deciding they're going to build world-class automobiles (and not just a final-assembly factory, but all the components too).

    22. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      There's a bunch of eastern European nations that have joined NATO since the wall fell.

      Anyone can join NATO, even a Moon colony if we were to establish one and make it an independent nation. The other NATO members would probably have to agree to it, of course, but just because the name reflects the origins of the organization doesn't mean they have to limit membership to nations in the north Atlantic. It probably would make sense to change the name, however, if they let Pacific Rim nations join, but there is a lot of historical inertia to the "NATO" name.

    23. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Personally, I kind of expected at least one person to link to this instead:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    24. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Relax. I said appear to be trying. No crack smoking here. However, you might want to clean your glasses.

      And yes, i agree we should have better war planes.

    25. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I actually went to look it up and was surprised that Australia wasn't in NATO, they are a member of the Five-Eyes, so it is kind of amazing they didn't join up.

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    26. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The only place in the US that you're gonna see someone dressed as Uncle Sam is in a Pride Parade, and he'll probably have his ass cheeks exposed.

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    27. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Well I'm a Victorian and call me un-Australian but I kind of wish our sovereignty was robust to the extent of butting out of pointless skirmishes.

      e.g. We recently signed a free-trade agreement with our 'friends', China. Yet at the same time, we're building a dozen submarines - ostensibly so we can join a naval battle with Clinton/Trump and Duterte over a sea to our north.

    28. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      F35 200 million a pop http://defense-update.com/2014..., can do an awful lot with that money, other than burning resources, generating pollution, blowing people up and then tossing it on the scrap pile. Scrap the whole thing and you could build a whole series of industrial plants to make anything you want but hey, you want to burn resources, generate pollution, blow people up and then toss it on the scrap pile, then go right ahead, good luck to you and the people you take with you, you'll need it.

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    29. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      F35 200 million a pop can do an awful lot with that money

      It'll cost far, far, far more than the entire cost of the F-35 program to build smartphones in America. And who's going to do it anyway? Are you proposing that the US government become a smartphone manufacturer? Or should they just give the money to some company to do it? When was the last time that turned out well? They give huge amounts of money to defense contractors and don't get a whole lot for it.

      Scrap the whole thing and you could build a whole series of industrial plants to make anything you want but hey

      If you really think that, you are woefully ignorant of how industry and the economy works. How old are you, 14?

    30. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Relax. I said appear to be trying.

      But to whom do they appear to be trying? Isn't it fairly well known that this current airplane boondoggle is a snafu? Or is that the snafu is a boondoggle? In this case you could say it either way

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    31. Re: Are foreign devices fully secure? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      It is fairly well known it is a boondoggle but the spec on paper say it should be a decent multi role fighter. There is the problem, on paper, it looks good. In reality, it scares a lot of people. But multi role fighters have always been sub par for the majority of tasks it is supposed to be capable for. I just don't think anyone realized how sub par it was going to be at almost everything it was designed to do. It doesn't hold a candle to a lot of previous fighters in the roles they held but there are some people who say it is better for the some roles.

      So yes., appears to be trying is a good fit.

  3. Mail server by Smiddi · · Score: 1

    Sounds like he has a better grasp of IT security than Hillary does.

    1. Re:Mail server by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      Hillary asked for this to able to check emails on the phone and was denied. Only after Kerry became Sec of State, a serious effort was put it and he was even the beta tester for this phone.

    2. Re:Mail server by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Are you sure denied is the right word?

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/n...

      My understanding was that Hillary wanted a Blackberry (like Obama) and that was denied because it was a one off for the president. They offered Hillary the standard secure mobile solution, and she balked.

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  4. He apparently can't make phone calls with it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    From TFA: "Obama told Fallon that he can't place phone calls on it—the phone is likely restricted to secure VoIP functionality, with outside calls controlled from a secure switchboard."

    I must admit I chuckled a little at the "secure Outlook Web Access" mention.

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    1. Re:He apparently can't make phone calls with it by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      HTTPS is considered secure. Are you trying to claim that OWA has been breached?

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  5. Re:Cool by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, yes there is and it has been used to great effect to wipe out succeeding "leaders" within the Daesh terrorist organization.

    It's been so effective Daesh is turning against itself in a frenzied attempt to find out if there are spies among their ranks because their people keep dying so frequently.

    Desertions are up, territory keeps getting lost, and terrorists keep getting killed, all thanks to the Drone Strike app. Available now for Apple and Android devices.

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  6. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

    John Kerry was a perfect beta tester. No risk of intelligence being lost.

  7. Still using my S4 by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

    With an Otterbox on it, the damn thing is bulletproof. I even had it pop out of my bike bag while I was doing about 20mph and it still didn't break. I'll never get to upgrade. :P

    1. Re:Still using my S4 by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I skipped over the S4 and I'm using an S5. It's also tough as nails. I could be going 20mph and drop mine in a puddle, and it would still work.

      But it will be the last Samsung I ever own. My next phone will be an LG.

    2. Re: Still using my S4 by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

      Why go with LG if the Samsung was so reliable for you?

    3. Re:Still using my S4 by jezwel · · Score: 1

      I was thinking, why an S4? The S5 can handle random water incursion just fine. Maybe they need another way to quickly brink the phone though.

    4. Re:Still using my S4 by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      Agreed, my S4 is still being used today as my "oneID" remote to control my tv laptop, battery is going though, will only last about 48 hours with wifi on now. My s6 is great, loving almost everything about it. Strangely though the touchscreen was acting like it had deadspots until I got an OTA update.

    5. Re:Still using my S4 by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      major hardware changes with the s4 to s5 jump

    6. Re: Still using my S4 by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Because the S6 and S7 are crap. Of course, he'll probably keep his S5 as long as he can, but eventually he's going to want to get something newer, and unless Samsung goes back to making great phones like the S4 and S5, it'll have to be something non-Samsung.

      I will say, it is possible Samsung may go back: the S7 is an improvement over the S6 as they brought back the SD slot and (I think) water resistance, but it still has the stupid sealed-in battery so it's a no-go.

    7. Re:Still using my S4 by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You can get new OEM Samsung batteries for the S4 on Ebay for $10.

      The S6 is crap: the battery is not user-replaceable, there's no SD slot, and it's not waterproof like the S5. It's a step down in every single way from its predecessor. (No, the S4 isn't waterproof either; that's the big feature the S5 has over it.)

  8. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can change the battery and load custom roms unlike apple

    You can't load custom ROMs without losing the Knox features, I believe.

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  9. Re:Really? And I care because? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    Well, when push comes to shove . . . no one really cares about you either. Wrap up a hamster in duck tape, and shove it up your ass.

    Please post GIFs, or it didn't happen.

    I, for one, do care what the POTUS is using. Is it really secure? And audit able?

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  10. Re:Cool by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    no you still have to pick up the red phone and dial the air force.

  11. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by sphealey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    = = = Get your own phone, server, whatever. There are no punishments or consequences for anyone involved. = = =

    Yeah, Karl Rove proved that when he routed 22 million W Administration e-mails through a Republican Party server which was claimed to have no archiving or backup process.

    sPh

  12. Re:Cool by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's an app called Angry Kurds.

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  13. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by msauve · · Score: 2

    Never heard of negative numbers, eh?

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  14. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    And, most importantly, is unsupported.

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  15. Re:With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by nucrash · · Score: 1

    That's alright, he is used the people's money to pay for the phone, and now people have access to the phone now too.

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  16. Re: Why not be like Hillary? by Frankzy · · Score: 1

    Or imaginary...

  17. Re:With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    With all of the Samsung critical security bugs ... I'm really surprised he didn't switch to an iPhone.

    On the other hand, Samsung builds most of the supported platforms for Replicant, the open-code-only spinoff from cyannogen-mod (which discovered and fixed some of those Samsung bugs).

    Replicant is only up to the S3. But it might be interesting to try to look into whether any of its work was incorporated into this platform.

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  18. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 4, Funny

    But you have to become President of the US in order to get rid of all of the crap that Samsung and Google load onto the phone.

  19. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Samsung can make an ROM / let the US gov make there own rom like the cell co's do.

  20. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

    They had pretty different roles. For example, he was not the secretary of state.

    In any case, I doubt most people that want Hillary in jail would cry over Rove being tossed in with her.

  21. Re:Cool by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    Obviously there are spies in their ranks. How else are the good guys getting info on where the high-value targets are?

    Let's not forget all of the people at universities who are protesting and trying to get the war on Daesh to stop. No more drones! No war!

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  22. Re: Really? And I care because? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apparently Americans struggle with proper English.

  23. Secure is relative... by Archfeld · · Score: 2

    So Apple which off-shores billions to avoid taxes, uses a majority of Chinese made parts and assembles in Mexico is a US company. Not to mention runs a proprietary OS and won't share the code so it can be audited. There is a reason the NSA prefers BSD, and rightfully chooses android over a closed OS, they can and do compile it themselves and check every line of code. I would trust all South Korean made hardware long before I would trust a hodgepodge of Chinese manufactured parts gathered and assembled in a lowest bidder fashion in several untrusted and known corrupt marketplaces, China and Mexico for example.

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    1. Re:Secure is relative... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      So Apple which off-shores billions to avoid taxes, uses a majority of Chinese made parts and assembles in Mexico is a US company. Not to mention runs a proprietary OS and won't share the code so it can be audited. There is a reason the NSA prefers BSD, and rightfully chooses android over a closed OS, they can and do compile it themselves and check every line of code. I would trust all South Korean made hardware long before I would trust a hodgepodge of Chinese manufactured parts gathered and assembled in a lowest bidder fashion in several untrusted and known corrupt marketplaces, China and Mexico for example.

      Said smartphone from "South Korea" is most likely manufactured in China. From a hodge-podge of parts sourced all over the world. And maybe even made in the same factory as Apple products. (And Foxconn's Taiwanese, actually, with major factories in China. Most other big CMs are also Taiwan based - China just has their workforce to put the stuff together).

      As for auditing the phone - well, Android itself is open-source. But there's a lot of code that isn't, and runs in modes that are more priviledged than the Linux kernel Android uses. Such as the TrustZone monitor and the TZEE (TrustZone Execution Environment, where you can run "apps" in the secure world). TZEE is basically an OS unto itself to provide secure world services to the open world. Such things include access to encryption hardware and secured keys.

      Then there's the hypervisor - used by Samsung's Knox. The hypervisor is just a hypervisor and it too runs like an operating system to schedule the various virtual machines. One of which would be the main Android OS, the other to run the Knox security stuff.

  24. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

    Cruel and unusual punishment?

  25. Re: With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    In general it is good form to stick to an American brand if possible.
    But being the iPhones are made in China (Communist) vs South Korea(Democratic ) may propose less potential risk

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  26. Re:With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

    Step in the way back machine, read the snowden documents and interviews, find the spot where the NSA mentions any attack against an IOS device reaps rewards, then say that again. Every attack against an IOS device reaps rewards. But.... this isn't your S4, nor is it my S4, it's a hardened S4. In fact, I'd be surprised if any of us would recognize the phone from using it.

  27. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

    Knox has changed, at one point there was a rom flash detection flag you had to fuck with if you flashed, as knox would throw a warning and say your warranty was void. Samsung said, officially, that the warrant would NOT be voided by flashing the rom. I think in later versions, activating knox stops you from being able to root the phone but can't confirm, I stopped trying with my s4 after a few bad flashes including several cyanogen builds.

  28. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by phishybongwaters · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What an utter load of crap you just spouted

  29. Re:Really? And I care because? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

    you cared enough to login and post a rant about it, after apparently reading it.

  30. Re:There is a hardened unit available by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

    hardened and "hardened" are two different things. I think the one you are referring to is meant to say, this is a combat ready, can take a beating and still work, type of phone. Like those hardened laptops able to survive a nuclear strike or some crap. The hardened we are talking about here is of the software variety, it's a SECURE phone. It's still an s4 body, and will still shatter if you drop it. The SOFTWARE has been hardened. Isn't learning fun?

  31. Re:With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    Did you think that with everything that happened late last year/early this year with the FBI and Apple that all would suddenly be forgiven?

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  32. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Can I FOIA the unlocked bootloader?

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  33. Re: With all of the Samsung critical security bugs by DrXym · · Score: 1

    I think if they were ultra paranoid they'd get one of the new modular phones and switch out any pieces they weren't happy with. Then they'd run a custom build of Android on top which excluded anything they didn't want and ran everything else through multiple layers of encryption and authentication.

  34. Re:Missing SIM card. by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, unlike MY Samsung S4 his doesn't have the dreaded ‘SIM card not inserted’ error.

    I had this problem a month a go with my S4. After a trip to my carrier customer service to replace the SIM card, that problem no longer exist

  35. Re:Why the S4? by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 1

    This makes me wonder if the S4 pre-dates the phones that have backdoors built in to him. He is one of the few people who would be informed of which phones are actually safe to use. The fact the man has unlimited resources and chooses a phone that is 4 years old is interesting.

    It was chosen for him

  36. Still a foreign country by sjbe · · Score: 1

    South Korea is an ally.

    Doesn't matter much. It's still a foreign country. We spy on our allies and our allies spy on us. When you are talking about the communications of the head of state, it's nuts to completely trust even a close ally. The US has proven that recently - just ask our allies in Europe.

    Actually, I don't think people realize just how close the US Military and South Korea are. The DOD probably trusts devices made in South Korea far more than they would devices made in the US due to the massive influence they have in South Korea. Remember we still have US troops stationed in South Korea and South Korea (conceptually) relies on US support to keep North Korea from invading.

    Again true but it doesn't matter. The US has close relationships with a number of countries but we still restrict sensitive equipment purchases and sales when they have national security implications. Obviously we would purchase equipment preferentially from a close ally like South Korea over a friendly rival like China but that doesn't mean South Korea gets a free pass no matter how much leverage we have over them.

  37. Pimping for US manufacturers by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Inherently it is also a betrayal of American technology manufacturers.

    Please point out a single US based manufacturer of smartphones. There has to be one for us to buy one. And then it has to be able to actually do the job required. The US has a huge manufacturing base and makes a lot of things but there are some products which simply aren't made in the US.

    The President of a country should be a walking billboard for that country. All clothing and carried items should be US made.

    So the guy whose job is 2/3 foreign relations shouldn't buy anything made outside the US. Seems a bit simplistic to me. While I have no problem with the US president (and congress for that matter) favoring US made goods, there are times and places where that's not the best course of action.

    No matter how shitty the phone is there only one acceptable excuse, the US does not make any.

    Ok, done. There is, to my knowledge, no current US manufacturer of smartphones. The federal government could contract to have one made by a US based company (Apple, Google, etc) but it will be wastefully expensive to do so. So would you prefer the US government be wasteful with taxpayer dollars?

  38. Apple products aren't made in the US by sjbe · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure there is a buy American made first law on the books which would have favored Apple.

    Very little of what Apple sells is made in America. That is why they have the weasel words "Designed in California" on their products but they are made elsewhere, often in China. It makes it sound like it's an American product when in fact little to none of the material in the device actually came from America.

    Apple on the other hand, would likely see attempts at this as a means to backdoor their security and fight it like with the san Bernardino phone.

    And Apple would probably be correct about that.

    1. Re:Apple products aren't made in the US by Creepy · · Score: 1

      It's kind of unfair to call out just Apple here - name a single phone made in America. OK, maybe you know the Moto X is manufactured here... correction, it is assembled here, mainly if not exclusively from foreign parts at Wal-Mart level wages by a company called Flextronics.

  39. Re:Why the S4? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

    Just over 3 years. And these things take years to procure if run past the 3 letter agencies first.

    According to Knox's wikipedia page the S5 is on the list if the next Prez wants a slightly newer model.

  40. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    The warranty thing may have been a valid concern a few years ago, but this is 2016. The S4 was released in 2013. They're up to the S7 now; any S4 you buy now is used (I know--I've bought 3 of them in the last year, but all used of course), and is long out of warranty.

  41. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    I agree with the other responder: you're spouting a load of crap.

    I've bought 3 Samsung S4s in the past year on the used market, all with OEM batteries. None of the batteries are "dying", though a couple have noticeably lost capacity (but still not that bad). That's on a 3-year-old phone; it's normal for lithium batteries to have noticeable capacity loss after 3 years of constant use. On your shitty Apple, this would require paying $$$ for an Apple tech to replace the battery, or just buy a new phone for $$$$. On these S4s, it's no problem: I just buy a new OEM battery and pop it in and the phone is good as new, so I only have to spend about $120 for a great phone by not buying something that's brand new. Phones haven't noticeably improved in the last 3 years anyway, just like computers haven't improved noticeably in the last 6 or more.

  42. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    For which one?

    But yeah, I'm one of those people who'd like to see Hillary in jail. If they can throw Rove in there with her, so much the better. Toss Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld in while you're at it.

  43. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Creepy · · Score: 1

    In my experience, Apple's devices hold a charge longer and use battery more frugally than Android. Leaving them idle is absolutely no contest - my Nexus 7 is dead in a week, my iPad mini still has power after a month (though we're talking 10% - my iPad 2 is still in the 40-50% when idle for a month). My usage of these devices tends to be in spurts as I jump between supporting different projects and platforms, so they may be idle a month or two and then be in extremely heavy use for a month or two.

  44. Re-writing History? by dacaldar · · Score: 1
    Does anyone else remember Obama _insisting_ he get to keep his BlackBerry when he took office, and him winning a lengthy battle with the secret service which ended with BlackBerry making a custom hardening for them? He said he refused to ever be separated from the BB.

    Now yes, BlackBerry is pretty much dead in the handset space, but if his phone has been disabled from running most publicly available apps... well BlackBerry always had superior email, typing, and productivity management capabilities, and the reason people stopped buying BB was exactly because they couldn't get the latest or hottest apps... so... aside from not looking cool, it seem his best move would have been to stay with a BlackBerry (which has, or a least had) thousands of US employees working on making phones back when you people were still buying them.

  45. Not made here by sjbe · · Score: 1

    It's kind of unfair to call out just Apple here - name a single phone made in America.

    How is it unfair to Apple to point out that they have their gear made in China? That's a fact. If they were proud of that fact they wouldn't bother putting "Designed in California" on their products to disguise that the product is made here. Pretty much everybody else doesn't bother trying to hide the fact that their stuff isn't made locally.

    I've pointed out several times that pretty much no phone is actually made in the US. The components aren't made here, they aren't assembled here, and there is no likelihood that that will change anytime soon. I get why it's worked out that way but I don't have to be thrilled about it. Furthermore I know that some companies (including Apple) are in a position to do something about it but so far can't be bothered.

  46. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    You could try, they might mail you a CD.

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  47. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Yup, no email scandal at all...

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  48. Re:Why not be like Hillary? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Also, the DNC forced them to run the server to separate the emails for the election process from the official emails.

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  49. Stagefright? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    It would really be something if this super secure phone is behind on patching and gets hit by stagefright.

  50. Re:Can change the battery and load custom roms unl by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    You're talking about something entirely different: you're talking about average power consumption. The previous poster was talking about battery life. In my experience, he's full of crap because I have phones significantly older than the model he's talking about, still with original batteries, and they still work fine (albeit with somewhat reduced lifespan, as you'd expect from a 3-year-old battery). He's trying to claim that OEM batteries are dying within a year from normal usage, and that's complete garbage. The phones being power hogs really doesn't have anything to do with that.