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J.J. Abrams Reacts To Death of Star Trek Actor Anton 'Chekov' Yelchin (hollywoodreporter.com)

On Sunday morning 27-year-old actor Anton Yelchin, who plays Chekov in the new Star Trek movies, was killed in a freak accident with his own car in the driveway of his home in Studio City. "It appears he momentarily exited his car and it rolled backward, causing trauma that led to his death," a police spokesperson told the Hollywood Reporter. This afternoon J. J. Abrams tweeted a picture of a handwritten eulogy addressed to Anton. "You were brilliant. You were kind. You were funny as hell, and supremely talented. And you weren't here nearly long enough. Missing you..." Zachary Quinto, who plays Mr. Spock, also tweeted a link to a picture posted in memorial on Instagram, where he called Yelchin "one of the most open and intellectually curious people I have ever had the pleasure to know... wise beyond his years, and gone before his time..."

Stephen King called him a "crazily talented actor gone too soon," remembering Yelchin from one of his last roles in a 10-episode adaptation of King's "Mr. Mercedes". Yelchin will play a mentally deranged ice cream truck driver who's also an IT worker for a Geek Squad-like company named "Cyber Patrol".

221 comments

  1. What's your favorite Chekov moment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I loved that commercial where he beamed into the Xfinity Innovation Center!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:What's your favorite Chekov moment? by EzInKy · · Score: 2

      "Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's where they keep the nuclear wessels."

      I know it was the wrong Chekov, but it was absolutely hilarious!!!

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    2. Re:What's your favorite Chekov moment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to shop in the PX on that very base when I lived in Alameda.

  2. Brilliant by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    He was brilliant.

    1. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He visited a movie set I was working on just before Star Trek came out. I have it filed away in my list of 'really cool shit that happened in my life'. What stands out for me in that memory isn't that I got to meet Pavel Chekov and Kyle Reese, it's that he was a really cool guy. Oh, and as a bonus, he was impressed with what we were doing. I enjoyed calling my parents that weekend and telling them about it.

      Farewell Anton, thanks for being a really cool guy.

    2. Re: Brilliant by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Not just cool. He was brilliant. Brilliant.

    3. Re: Brilliant by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Keonig? The cofffee maker guy?

    4. Re:Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Troll

      He was brilliant.

      So brilliant he couldn't figure out why his car was equipped with a parking brake.

    5. Re: Brilliant by JustOK · · Score: 1

      No, you're thinking of Dolly Parton.

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    6. Re: Brilliant by Z00L00K · · Score: 3

      Nice to see some personal reflections.

      Regardless of what you think of the re-boot it's not fun to see people pass on when they are young.

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    7. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, man.

    8. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought when skimming the headline was "Oh, Alfred Bester died, that is unfortunate but he was pretty old."
      Then I realized that the name was off.

    9. Re: Brilliant by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      You met John Conner's father? When The Terminator came out, Anton Yelchin was -5 years old.

    10. Re:Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was brilliant.

      Not brilliant enough it would appear.

    11. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. I'm sure he means George Clooney

    12. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he meant the Anton Yelchin played Kyle Reese in the 2009 movie Terminator Salvation.

    13. Re: Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2009 movie? What are you talking about? Everybody knows that there are only two Terminator films.

    14. Re:Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately new star trek isn't. I'm sure the cast are all talented in their own right, but I don't feel any connection to them or the new versions of their characters because Abrams has turned it all in to something closer to a Micheal Bay production. He really doesn't understand why Star Trek was good. If anyone should get run over by their own car, it's Abrams.

    15. Re:Brilliant by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      Unfortunately a lot of people believe (rightly or wrongly) the masses want stuff dumbed down to their level. Almost no one is interested in True Sci-Fi: the (social) implications of technology; most people would rather watch total crap like someone else's fake life aka Unreality Shows such as The Kartrashians, The Bachelor/Bachelorette, Soaps, etc. instead of living their own interesting life because their own life is boring.

      i.e. Look at the most (financially) successful movie of all time. Avatar was a sci-fi remake of Dances with Wolves for crying out loud.

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    16. Re: Brilliant by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      As for what I think of the reboot- with this death time to reverse the story line of the original series and bring back the character of Kevin O'Reily, the Irishman that the Russian replaced in the original series.

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    17. Re: Brilliant by JustOK · · Score: 1

      Possibly, but you're still thinking about Dolly Parton.

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  3. A tragedy by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Troll

    A very talented actor is gone, and it will not even save us from having to endure that unnecessary reboot of Star Trek. They'll probably just recast and not even bother to explain in any way. Nobody really gives a shit anymore it seems.

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    1. Re:A tragedy by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Troll

      The only thing that people like JJ Abrams gives a shit about is money.

    2. Re:A tragedy by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      What's the alternative though?

      It's that or you get something creepy like the Fast & Furious movies where they use CGI to add the dead actor's likeness over a body double. As an aside, I recommend watching the film The Congress which explores such a concept.

    3. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A very talented actor is gone, and it will not even save us from having to endure that unnecessary reboot of Star Trek. They'll probably just recast and not even bother to explain in any way. Nobody really gives a shit anymore it seems.

      I don't give a shit because if I didn't like the Star Trek reboot, I wouldn't watch it.

      That's really difficult for some of you, I know. I mean, if you did things that way, what would you have to bitch about?

    4. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as I know, the shooting is finished. They can kill him off in the next one, in a "transporter accident", yeah, that's the ticket.

      And the reboot series isn't that bad. The Kirk/Spock shtick still plays well, though the role reversals are rather odd.

    5. Re:A tragedy by NotInHere · · Score: 2

      That movie depicts one of the possible futures of our planet. Space is vast and big. We know now that FTL travel is an impossible thing.

      But why explore space if we can just put ourselves on drugs and live in a phantasy world?

      Computer games are just the beginning. VR is the second step.

    6. Re:A tragedy by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      They *may* have suitable footage in the most recent film to include Chekov's death in the film. If so, some script changes, and minor reshooting later...

    7. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And the reboot series isn't that bad

      It really is. It manages to totally miss the appeal of the original and still be inept at telling a new story.

      It's nothing more than an action-heavy parody of Star Trek, and I really hoped it was finished after Star Trek: Into Dumbness

    8. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or when Star Trek: Alternate Universe 4 comes out, they can slip in a 5 second mention about how nuChekov was promoted directly to a captain (if Kirk could go from cadet to captain, then ensign to captain is totally within belief), given his own ship and is off in deep space somewhere.

    9. Re:A tragedy by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can't they just explain at the beginning of the next movie that he was on an away team wearing a red shirt?

    10. Re:A tragedy by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 0

      The main reason for watching is Uhura!

      I had no empathy the villains in the first movies - Eric Banana I still remember from low-brow comedy skits and I can't stand that Cummerbund guy from Sherlock.

    11. Re:A tragedy by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      That movie depicts one of the possible futures of our planet. Space is vast and big. We know now that FTL travel is an impossible thing.

      One guy writes a paper saying the impossible is truly impossible, and you believe him?

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    12. Re:A tragedy by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      There is a saying... Life must go on. Sadly people die, however the rest of us who is alive should continue. Now his death is a great loss as he probably didn't peak his acting career and his friends and family will miss him.
      Now if you don't like the Star Trek movies... Don't watch them. Enough Lower sales will either kill the series or cause a rework.
      You didn't like it. Then stop eating it and classify it as bad fan fiction done on a huge budget.

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    13. Re:A tragedy by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      They can kill him off in the next one, in a "transporter accident", yeah, that's the ticket.

      Sir, Chekov's dead. He was shouting something about nuclear wessels.

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    14. Re:A tragedy by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It's nothing more than an action-heavy parody of Star Trek

      Nah, I can appreciate parodies -- Galaxy Quest was awesome!

      NuTrek, however, is a goddamn travesty of plot holes that wreck the entire concept. (Why fly starships when we can just fucking beam to Qo'nos now?! Why give a shit about anything when we can cure death with magic Khan blood? Fuck you, Abrams!)

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    15. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, you mean Cummerbund Bandersnatch (Egg Master rules!)? Yeah, not a fan either but he doesn't bother me too much.

      Eric Bana just sounded like a whiny, petulant child as Nero.

    16. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why ships in Star Trek don't go FTL, they use warp engines.

    17. Re:A tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This * 1000.

      Kinda liked the first one. Wasn't the Trek I know and love, but hey. Almost walked out on Star Trek into Darkness twice, first time when they killed Pike. Could have had a touching story with Pike being a father figure to Kirk, but no. So much wrong. All further films in this series are now in my "might get a camrip but will wait for dvdrip" bucket.

      As far as I'm concerned, Star Trek: Renegades is the 11th film. Let's hope Axanar gets to be #12.

      I wish I could comprehend why the studio felt they needed a reboot, but fans seem to be doing fine carrying on without them. If only we had sane copyright laws. I would absolutely love to see either of those two I mentioned in a theater.

    18. Re:A tragedy by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Why does it have to be the same few characters on the same ship? TNG was pretty successful having an entirely new cast, playing (mostly) entirely new characters in an entirely new era. And it was brilliant.

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  4. Neutral by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He exited his car while it was in neutral on his steep driveway, and he got pinned between his car and the brick mailbox. This goes to show how incredibly easy it is to make one tiny mistake and pay for it with your life. If I had to guess, I would say he was trying to hop back into the car to stop it. It could have happened to any of us - in one instant, before you realize, it's too late. RIP and if anything can come of this, hopefully the rest of us can learn to take one extra moment to make sure that what we think of as a mundane, simple thing is not overlooked.

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    1. Re:Neutral by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Sounds unlikely. How would he get pinned behind the car and a mailbox if we was by the side of the car? Unless he got out the get something from the trunk.

    2. Re:Neutral by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

      hopefully the rest of us can learn to take one extra moment to make sure that what we think of as a mundane, simple thing is not overlooked.

      Doubtful. People die every day from using drugs, including actors such as C. Phillip Hoffman, yet people insist it's still cool to do so.

      People think driving with either an arm extended directly in front of them, grasping the top of the steering wheel, or with a single arm crossed over the body and holding the steering wheel is a safe way to drive despite people dying every day because they lack control of their vehicle.

      How many kids die every year when someone leaves them in a hot car to gamble at a casino or run into Walmart? How many dogs have died the same way?

      Humans are stupid. No matter how many times something bad happens to someone else because of something that was clearly preventable they'll make a big deal about it then promptly forget it the next day.

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    3. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry the guy was killed, but it takes a very special type of stupid to get out of a car, on an incline, that isn't shifted into Park.

    4. Re:Neutral by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 1

      It nearly happened to me once - I got out of the car and forgot to set the parking brake. My (stupid) first reaction was to try and stop the car physically, since it was on a very gradual slope. Luckily for me, I didn't get caught by anything, nor tripped up, and the car rolled out of the driveway, across the street, and into the uphill driveway on the other side, at which point it slowed enough that I could hurriedly open the door and jump in before it started rolling forward again.

      But I can easily see how the immediate reaction would be the bad/dangerous one to not get out of the way.

    5. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could have happened to any of us
      No, it could only have happened to those of us that have a manual transmission car.

      I'm also not really sure how you can park on your steep driveway, forget to put the emergency brake on, take your foot off the brake and not realize what's going on right away. I'd say either his parking brake malfunctioned, or he was doing something really stupid.

    6. Re:Neutral by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      Steep driveway, a Manual transmission and not applying the parking fully or at all. He may have walked a long way before the car picked up momentum?

    7. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, car puts YOU in neutral!

      CAPTCHA: crucify

    8. Re:Neutral by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Correct. But how do you end up pinned between the car and the brick mailbox? Don't you just, um, get out of the way when the car starts rolling?

    9. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It nearly happened to me once

      Then perhaps you can explain something that I am having difficulty wrapping my head around.

      So you stop the car, release your foot off the brake, the car starts to move, you open the door... and you get out w/o realizing the car is moving? How does that happen?

    10. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it could only have happened to those of us that have a manual transmission car.

      You mean automatic. Between automatic drivers and manual drivers, only one is going to always use the parking brake. And that is the manual drivers. Automatic drivers, in my experience, rely on putting the car in "park", and pretend that the parking brake does not exist. They are the ones that something will happen to when they bump it into neutral instead. Manual drivers have no "park", only neutral. So we always use the parking brake.

    11. Re:Neutral by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      You would think. Back to the car with the engine running. Ear buds in maybe?

    12. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manual drivers have no "park", only neutral. So we always use the parking brake.

      Manual drivers have 1st gear. And yes, plenty avoid using the parking brake unless on a *really* steep incline. I'm one of them.
      So no, "we" don't "always" use the parking brake.

    13. Re:Neutral by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's much much much more likely to happen in an automatic. Most automatics will stop themselves when placed in park, unless placed on a steep enough slope. That makes it far more likely that you'll forget, and fuck up in an automatic.

    14. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Automatic drivers, in my experience, rely on putting the car in "park", and pretend that the parking brake does not exist. They are the ones that something will happen to when they bump it into neutral instead.

      If you're a time traveller from 1983.

      Taking an automatic transmission car out of "Park" requires you to press down on the brake first. It's been like that for a long time. There's no longer any "accidentally bumping it out of Park".

    15. Re:Neutral by Ramze · · Score: 2

      That's not likely what happened. He could have put the car into neutral instead of park... or he could have put it into park w/ out a parking brake on. On an incline, the transmission is all that prevents a "parked" car from rolling if there's no parking brake on. Transmissions can break under the strain and release the car from "park." Either way, the car was not likely moving when he exited the vehicle.

      If it was in neutral, when and whether or not the car would start rolling would depend on the level of incline. It could have been completely stopped after he braked, then after he got out of the car, he may have walked to check his mailbox. Cars are massive, and without power take time to accelerate downhill. (It would not have immediately started rolling from neutral) Then, after he noticed the car was in motion, he may have decide to try to stop it, but couldn't and it pushed him into his mailbox.

      If he actually put the car into park, his transmission may have failed causing the car to roll. I had a Ford Taurus parked on an incline in TN once whose main gear cracked in half, then broke apart b/c the parking brake wasn't on. Engine would turn on just fine, but no gears worked. It was effectively in neutral -- thankfully it was parked against a structure so it didn't go far.

    16. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something similar happened to me. I was pulling into a car wash, and saw a bunch of people washing their own cars.

      I was confused because I thought it was a full-service car wash, and people were washing their own cars. I stopped after pulling up the entrance, put the car in park, opened the door and got out to ask if they offered full service.

      One guy yelled, "Hey, your car is rolling!" I had put it in neutral by mistake while my mind was elsewhere.

      Fortunately I was able to just hop back in and hit the brake. I was so embarrassed I just backed out and drove away. :)

    17. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's also the release button on the gearshift. The only way to accidentally shift to neutral is from a drive gear (i.e. RD23..).

    18. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steep driveway, a Manual transmission and not applying the parking fully or at all. He may have walked a long way before the car picked up momentum?

      I'm guessing this is the place:
      https://www.google.com/maps/place/3866+Berry+Dr,+Los+Angeles,+CA+91604/

      Security fence and what not as mentioned some articles. Looks like the drive sloped down away from the mailbox when rotating around using google earth 3D.

    19. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, it just takes being human, with an imperfect brain, that sometimes is convinced it has already done something it hasn't. Throw in a tiny bit of bad luck, and any of us can make a life ending mistake any day of the week. If you think "it can't happen to me" you're delusional.

    20. Re:Neutral by Kjella · · Score: 2

      RIP and if anything can come of this, hopefully the rest of us can learn to take one extra moment to make sure that what we think of as a mundane, simple thing is not overlooked.

      Thanks, but no thanks. That I might get a costly dent and paint job is plenty to make me remember the parking brake, if you genuinely worry it might kill you then you'll end up a basket case. Freak accidents happen but if I was worried that every car might be a drunk driver that'll ram me or that every person I pass by might be a recently released mental patient off their medication I'd be a nervous wreck before I got to work.

      At some point you have to realize that living to see tomorrow is not 100% certain but I just checked, 70/100000 in my age group will die in a year. Divide by 365 and with 99.999998% probability I'll survive tomorrow. And that includes suicides and various other not entirely unexpected deaths, the odds of dying in a freak accident would be even less. If I win the reverse lottery tomorrow, so be it. Not going to go around worrying about it.

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    21. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ?

      For an automatic car, there's one action. Stop the car, put it into park. For a manual, there's two. Stop the car, put it in neutral, and put on the parking brake.

      Obviously 1 action is easier than 2. In addition, you you're essentially almost NEVER switching to any other gear than reverse. Automatics are FAR easier and less error prone.

    22. Re:Neutral by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm guessing this is the place:
      https://www.google.com/maps/pl...

      Security fence and what not as mentioned some articles. Looks like the drive sloped down away from the mailbox when rotating around using google earth 3D.

      The article is slightly wrong and the brick pillar is the one on the other side, without the mailbox. If you look at it from this angle:
      https://www.google.com/maps/@3...

      There's a different story here where you can tell it's the corner towards the house. It slopes down in both directions, fence on two sides, brick pillar in the corner, car comes rolling down the driveway, seems like a tough spot to get out of because you got nowhere to go.

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    23. Re:Neutral by SirSlud · · Score: 0

      Good thing you're so above it all.

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    24. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are also more efficient. No human driver can match a computer.

    25. Re:Neutral by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I assume it was an open door, as they surmised he started the car and then got out... if you were going to just run right in the door to your house to grab that thing you forgot, it's very possible you'd leave the door open. Slow enough to not rip the door off, but steep enough to crush you between it and the mailbox. It's definitely plausible. Keep in mind - stranger deaths have occurred, and it was referred to as a "freak" accident.

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    26. Re:Neutral by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      In my driveway (and no, nothing like this ever happened to me), starting in my garage, when I take the parking brake off, the car starts moving almost imperceptibly before picking up speed. There's nothing about this tragedy that can't easily be explained, despite the fact that it was stupid and likely that a knee-jerk reaction to attempt to avoid monetary loss (damaging the car or property) cost someone their life.

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    27. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best thing that he could have done was lay down on the ground but at the time, I'm pretty sure that was far from his mind.

      Why lay down?

      The back of the car will hit the brick but there will be a gap between the back of the car and the tire. The tire won't reach him (and he's a pretty slim kind of guy) so he would have been able to lay down (likely trapped) below the car.

    28. Re:Neutral by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      But he could have left it in neutral even if it was an automatic. The story is actually light on details, but that he apparently tried to momentarily exit the car - meaning he likely didn't shut it off or remove the key. I put my automatic in neutral all the time as a habit from my days of driving manual cars. If I'm pulling up somewhere to wait for someone while I'm in my car, it's neutral and parking brake, not park. Park (or first, if you're driving manual) is not good for the transmission to just sit there stressing under the weight of a vehicle - it's a backup to the actual parking brake. So even when I stop to park, I put in neutral, but the parking brake on and let it settle, then put it in park.

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    29. Re:Neutral by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      You work under the assumption that the car had a park position on the gear lever. Manual gearboxes don't.

      And there have been reports of electronic parking brakes releasing themselves without user interaction.

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    30. Re:Neutral by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Which you never is able to use if the engine is left running when you leave the car shortly to do some minor thing like checking the mailbox at home.

      It's also important to ALWAYS use the parking brake since if it's left unused it can get stuck and be useless when needed.

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    31. Re:Neutral by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      It's only the last decade or so that automatic gearboxes have come to a real world efficiency that MATCHES manual gearboxes, but they aren't by any means much better than manual gearboxes. The manufacturer figures presented are for most of us unobtainable.

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    32. Re:Neutral by armanox · · Score: 1

      Shit happens, especially if you're in a hurry and not paying full attention. And depending on the car, "Park" might not be an option. I've also seen the parking paw break before, or even on an automatic have the car left in neutral and tried to stop it by pushing back on it (thankfully my father was able to get in to hit the brake before it got ugly on that one - I was between my 88 Mustang and my cousin's 86 Chevy C/K truck with no space to run

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    33. Re: Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not really. My Prius is absolutely quiet when you pull into a parking lot since it's typically on battery only. Hitting the power button turns on park so I don't typically ever put it explicitly in park. I've grazed the button and missed, opening the door and taken my foot of the brake. The car lurches forward and I scramble to hit park. People die in bizarre ways. They aren't idiots. It happens. Sad.

    34. Re:Neutral by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      No earbuds necessary with his back to the car. The sound of a stationary car with its engine on is the same as the sound of car rolling backwards with its engine on.

    35. Re:Neutral by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For what it's worth, the reports say that the car was a recent model Jeep Cherokee. Recent Chryslers vehicles have an incredibly stupid automatic shifter.

      http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a28121/nhtsa-investigates-jeep-dodge-chrysler-shifters/

      https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/02/09/2033249/jeepchryslers-new-gearshift-appears-to-be-causing-accidents

      It's entirely a drive-by-wire shifter that acts more like a joystick, and what you do is that you essentially dial in the gear you want, at which point it always goes back to its default position. So people are having a heck of a time telling when it's in Park, because if they didn't dial it correctly, they'll get Neural instead.

      Mr. Yelchin may very well have been the latest person to discover this the unfortunate way; there were already 30 injury reports back in February.

    36. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That got me thinking, there's no real (positive usecase) need for neutral gear on automatic. It's only used for towing or pushing the car - so it could easily be moved to out of reach location - even under the hood.

    37. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always leave my car in first gear, so for me (and I guess most manual drivers) there is only 1 action (unless you had to reverse to get to your parking spot): put on the hand/parking brake.

    38. Re:Neutral by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For what it's worth, the reports say that the car was a recent model Jeep Cherokee. Recent Chryslers vehicles have an incredibly stupid automatic shifter.

      What's astoundingly pathetic is that they had push button automatics which left absolutely no doubt about which gear you'd selected in the 1960s, my first car was a 1960 Dodge Dart Phoenix (2dr) which had this feature. So there is actually a superior interface which Chrysler has used in the past which they could have used here. It would have been both retro, and superior to the garbage they finally did implement which has been injuring and perhaps even killing people.

      Marchionne will be remembered as an incompetent douchebag who killed both Fiat and Chrysler.

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    39. Re:Neutral by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      He might have foolishly tried to slow or stop the car, or maybe he was walking to the mailbox to get mail after exiting the car, its possible it did not start rolling immediately and picked up speed before he heard it coming.

      So here is your PSA. When parking a car with a manual transmission always set the parking break AND leave the vehicle in first gear or reverse. This protects you in case the parking break should fail and if you make it habit to do both its very like you will always remember to do at least one even if you are distracted or your mind is elsewhere.

      I realize you can't leave the vehicle running and in gear, but in general you should not leave a vehicle running without a driver present anyway except in unusually situations where you can be mindful enough to double check you have set the break and verify the car will not roll upon exit by giving it a slight push.

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    40. Re:Neutral by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

      "Park" is not a parking brake.

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    41. Re:Neutral by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately this type of accident isn't uncommon - it happened locally recently. In that case the car door was open and pushed them back - they caught a leg under the car when falling down and then the door continued to drag them down the driveway into some large immovable object (I think it was another car - can't remember the details). They couldn't get out of the way of the door and moving sideways wasn't an option because of a fence.

      As the thread person points out. In the blink of an eye something so simple can cause such devastation. This is an awful tragedy.

    42. Re:Neutral by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, the reports say that the car was a recent model Jeep Cherokee. Recent Chryslers vehicles have an incredibly stupid automatic shifter.

      What's astoundingly pathetic is that they had push button automatics which left absolutely no doubt about which gear you'd selected in the 1960s, my first car was a 1960 Dodge Dart Phoenix (2dr) which had this feature. So there is actually a superior interface which Chrysler has used in the past which they could have used here. It would have been both retro, and superior to the garbage they finally did implement which has been injuring and perhaps even killing people.

      Marchionne will be remembered as an incompetent douchebag who killed both Fiat and Chrysler.

      You might want to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... on that topic.

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    43. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine who was driving ahead of me had a pretty bad accident. I immediately hopped out of my car to help (his kids were in back seat). Without realizing, I apparently didn't set my car in park---so it rolled downhill...

      Good thing I managed to hop inside before causing yet-another-accident.

      So yeah, small things people do without thinking...

    44. Re:Neutral by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      The dual-clutch gearboxes on 100k+ sports cars like the Nissan GTR or Porsche 911, and especially race cars like F1, do easily match and exceed the capabilities of even the most capable professional drivers.

      The automatics on cars that mere mortals like myself drive? Not so much. A skilled driver in a manual Civic, a Mazda 3, or even an MX-5 will outperform the auto every time. And before anyone jumps down my throat about the EPA numbers for autos exceeding the manual in some cases these days; note that I did specify a SKILLED driver. If you're a putz who doesn't know how to drive, go ahead and buy the miserable little slushbox.

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    45. Re:Neutral by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      That makes sense now -- the driveway slopes away from the road. He may have stopped at the top, then got out to grab the mail or close the gate, or whatever. Whether he was caught off guard or deliberately tried to stop the car doesn't really matter -- he was screwed either way. If he had been aware AND tried to get out of the way, then he might have been okay, but it's understandable to have a knee-jerk reaction to try to protect your vehicle and/or property. Definitely not worth trying, though.

    46. Re:Neutral by lazarus · · Score: 2

      And there was a voluntary recall, and his Jeep was one of the ones affected.

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    47. Re:Neutral by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      You might want to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... on that topic.

      OK, I did. The word "button" appears once in the article, under the section on "mechanical causes". To wit:

      The system of detents was often used in conjunction with the "push button" shifters used on many automatics in the 1950s.

      Perhaps you could explain why you found that relevant?

      The vintage Chrysler push-button automatics didn't even have a "park" setting, so they left absolutely no doubt as to whether the vehicle was in park or not: it wasn't. My 1960 Dart had a driveshaft-mounted parking brake.

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    48. Re:Neutral by danomac · · Score: 2

      I'm curious to know if he had one of those new Dodge cars. There was an article (maybe even here?) saying the shift lever didn't operate like a standard automatic shifter and many people were shifting into neutral when they thought they were putting it in Park.

    49. Re:Neutral by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Some consumers worship change believing that every change is an "innovation."

    50. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS. Manual transmission cars, when parked, should be parked as follows:
      1 - Emergency brake engaged
      2 - Shifted into a gear opposite the slope (typically 1st gear when parked forward in garage or driveway)
      3 - Tires turned towards nearest curb or structure (to minimize momentum in the event of the failure of the first two)
      Every time.

      Another poster referenced this - http://www.latimes.com/enterta...

      You will notice that the actor appears to have failed to perform all three of these items, where it is likely that any one of them would have saved his life. Its a common mistake, and I've made his same mistake on multiple occasions. On multiple occasions I have had one or more of these items fail (especially E-Brake on steep hill and older car). Consider this a PSA.

    51. Re:Neutral by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Automatics don't have an easily-available "park" position either, if they're Jeeps. On those stupid things, you have to push the shift lever upwards three separate times to shift into P: once to go to neutral, once to go to R, and once to go into P. They don't have a tradition multi-position lever like any decent car, because it's cheaper to make a crappy lever with two microswitches.

    52. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is YOUR PSA... learn the difference between "break" and "brake"

    53. Re:Neutral by Straif · · Score: 1

      Yes, from reports and pictures it looks like he was driving a newer Jeep with that awful electronic shifter.

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    54. Re:Neutral by Straif · · Score: 1

      Looks like he was driving a newer Jeep with the terribly designed electronic shifter which were effectively recalled because of so many reports of people thinking they put their cars into park actually put them in neutral instead.

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    55. Re:Neutral by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Two transmissions are faster than one. Shock!

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    56. Re:Neutral by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Marchionne will be remembered as an incompetent douchebag who killed both Fiat and Chrysler.

      and Chekov :P

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    57. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modern auto transmissions are far superior to any human using a manual transmission. Sorry, but there are no supermen in reality.

    58. Re:Neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So did he park his car at the top of the street where it may balance between the driveway and road? Because his car apparently was in NEUTRAL there would be NO way he could have gotten out of the car without the car immediately rolling backwards without a handbrake, let alone somehow getting behind the car, if it were on the slope of THAT driveway.
      I have been in a few cars with auto tranny's that when left in drive will just sit there on a hill, and on a flat will gradually pick up forward momentum . I have been in other autos that will disengage the clutch when stopped and then proceed to roll backwards fast. I am betting it was the latter.

    59. Re:Neutral by PPH · · Score: 1

      Modern auto transmissions can't anticipate upcoming conditions that I can see. So I can always beat an auto by downshifting before reaching a downhill. Or not upshifting if I see the need to apply power coming up. The whole 'autos can shift faster' vs dual clutch paddle shifters is meaningless for daily driving anyway.

      On the track, I sure as hell don't want an auto to decide to shift just as I'm at the apex of a turn and at the limits of my tires' traction. I need to shift in anticipation of applying power. Not when the computer says, "Oh boy! Throttle down! Lets jerk the car."

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  5. Re: Whitewash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I still don't get the Star Trek connection... This guy was only 2 years old the last time a movie came out.

  6. a Smart Car would have prevented this by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    post

    1. Re:a Smart Car would have prevented this by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Smart Cars might be the dumbest vehicles on the road. You can pay less, get better gas mileage and better reliability and still get a vehicle that is incredibly easy to drive and park without sacrificing the ability to carry passengers or a weeks worth of groceries.

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    2. Re:a Smart Car would have prevented this by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      And even if you don't want to carry more passengers, there are still better choices (Miata)!

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    3. Re:a Smart Car would have prevented this by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      without sacrificing the ability to carry passengers

      Passenger.

    4. Re:a Smart Car would have prevented this by PPH · · Score: 1

      Actually, some cars already have a related safety feature. Open the drivers door and they automatically shift into park.

      A mechanic was complaining about backing a late model BMW onto a lift. He starts to back up and opens the door to stick his head out and line up on the lift pads. BRRRRT! as the parking pawl tries to engage.

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  7. It just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See what happens when you have self-driving cars?

  8. Re: The timing is suspicious considering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This. He obviously wrongly believes the shooter was Muslim.

  9. Assasination by axewolf · · Score: 0

    I wonder who he pissed off and how.

    Makes no sense to assume the default explanation is true. He is dead, that is the only fact that cannot be manipulated.

    1. Re:Assasination by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      He is dead, that is the only fact that cannot be manipulated.

      "He's Fred, Jim."

      "I'm a doctor, not an escalator!"

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    2. Re:Assasination by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      They have medications for your condition.

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  10. Re: The timing is suspicious considering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Islam is the religion of peace. They wouldn't have done something like this.

  11. Re:Whitewash by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    It's so whitewashed I can't see anything that indicates he was drunk. The car was in neutral, and it sounds more like he was getting ready to go somewhere, started the car, remembered something he forgot, hopped out of the car, and was crushed by it. He was on his way to a rehearsal, not coming back from drinking.

  12. Re:Really, Anton? by c-A-d · · Score: 0

    My country was having a problem with a certain central american country's citizen's coming to this country as tourists and never leaving. We solved the problem by requiring all citizens of that particular country to apply with our embassy for a visa before they could enter the country. Anyone arriving in our country from that country without a visa was immediately reboarded and returned to their country of origin, at the airline's expense.

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  13. Re:Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    My father died this week. So it makes fathers day confusing for me. He was part of the greatest generation that fought in WWII.
    He didn't have much to say about people like you.
    Since the Vietnam War black participation in the military has grown. Today, there are more than 2.5 million black military veterans. And African-Americans who make up more than 13 percent of the U.S. population, now account for 20 percent of those serving in the military.

    I realize you are just trolling, and sometimes it's funny, just for the shock value. But it wasn't funny today. I doubt it will be funny for a long time.
    Wake me up when September ends. I'll let you know.

  14. Re: The timing is suspicious considering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A lot of people incorrectly did. The Federal AG Lynch is going to release a 911 call with the evidence this was terrorism redacted because that is just smart.

  15. Re:About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This post harassing a slashdot editor gets voted up, but posts about this idiot not figuring out a parking brake get voted down.
    Stay classy slashdot.

  16. Blame it on ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... the red shirt.

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    1. Re:Blame it on ... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Too soon.

    2. Re:Blame it on ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then lets go for an oldie but goodie... He's Dead Jim.

  17. Learn from It... by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 1

    We should celebrate his life and work, and take the most important reminders we can from his unnecessary death at only 27 years old. It is fitting, and not only because learning and growing and facing the evils of life with hope were always at the core of Star Trek.

    There are three I see: (1) life is short and can be over at any time, (2) we should build every day on the work we leave behind, because see #1, and (3) use your parking break and never get out of your car without verifying that it is holding its own weight while your feet are no longer on the pedals.

    "Seize the time, Meribor. Live now. Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again." -- Picard, The Inner Light

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    1. Re:Learn from It... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the 27 club. It's a curse that claims mainly musicians - Amy Winehouse, Brain Jones, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Robert Johnson,

    2. Re:Learn from It... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      The 27 club is only for those that intentionally terminated themselves.

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    3. Re:Learn from It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The 27 club is only for those that intentionally terminated themselves."

      and yet death welcomes us all regardless.

    4. Re:Learn from It... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      No, it's for 27-year-old musicians who died unexpectedly and/or violently - overdose, violence, suicide etc. Yelchin was in a band briefly, but they broke up. I don't think he would fit in the club.

  18. Darwin Award by EEPROMS · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yes it is a bit dark as humour goes but you have to wonder as it was the first thing that popped into me head when I read how he got killed.

    1. Re:Darwin Award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't appear he was doing anything incredibly stupid so I wouldn't be so fast to judge.

    2. Re:Darwin Award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it is a bit dark as humour goes but you have to wonder as it was the first thing that popped into me head when I read how he got killed.

      Turns out it may have been Jeep's convoluted electronic shifter that was to blame: https://consumerist.com/2016/06/20/jeep-recalled-for-gear-shift-issue-linked-to-star-trek-actors-death/

  19. Re:Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry for your loss, man.

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  20. Why? by xbytor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is he dead and all of the Kardashians still alive?

    1. Re:Why? by antdude · · Score: 1

      As my king ant said, how are all these bad people still alive and not the good people? :(

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    2. Re:Why? by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Because there really is no god.

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    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because idiots breed faster, and thus get more chances?

    4. Re:Why? by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 1

      As Marcus commented in Babylon 5

      "I have come to rejoice at the unfairness of the Universe. Because if it was truly fair it would mean that all bad stuff that happens to us would be because we actually deserved it."

      This is indeed one of those times when the fact that life is never fair gets driven home hard.

    5. Re:Why? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Because they apparently have the sense not to get run over by their own cars

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    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ``If the good-die-young, and it works the other way around, then I'm immortal.'' ---Dogbert.

    7. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure millions of Cardassians were killed in the Dominion War.

  21. Re: The timing is suspicious considering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really think anyone is interested in your inane conversations with yourself you fucking useless piece of shit cunt?

  22. Re:Whitewash by gfxguy · · Score: 1

    ... on his way to rehearsal at 1:10 am Sunday morning (a.k.a. late Saturday night). Not that I didn't like the guy, and it is a sad tragedy, but come on...

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  23. 5min world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why post on twitter/facebook/instagram... they are meant for things to be forgotten in 5min. They are "5min of fame tools".

    JJ, Zach... y'all are celebrities. Have a freaking press release, press statement or even take out an ad--that's called being formal and professional--something we sure Anton would want as an example in this 5min world... that would be real respect.

  24. Re:Whitewash by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    Anyone that knows what car model it was and if it has an electronic parking brake?

    There have been reports of cases where the electronic parking brake has released itself due to a software bug on some brands. And all it takes is a glitch in the software.

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  25. Life requires one to thing... and accidents happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they interviewed a neighbor:
    "It's surprising.... That a car can hurt you in your own driveway"

    Uh. It's a car...a tool, and they are dangerous by fact you need a license to operate one. And for instance, you can get seriously hurt from a horse... or a hammer, a car is no different. Know your context. That neighbor's comment sort of dismisses the context.

    Though this is likely a freak accident (likely pinned him from the back--e.g. he didn't see it?), I'm seeing the "lack" of common sense in this world today from these celeb posts. Might as well put a sign-sticker saying "warning, car may roll if brake is not on" (sorry, is it TOO EARLY?).

  26. This is sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of all the people who could have died such a ignoble death, why wasn't it that goddamn hack JJ Abrams or the equally worthless Orci and Kurtzman?

  27. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wish they would stop giving mod-points to morons.

  28. Just-world fallacy by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Because of the "Just-world Fallacy".

  29. Checkov was always terrible at the helm,...... by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    Something something, nuclear wessles.

  30. Re:Really, Anton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I will vote for anyone who can bring Jobs back. I'm talking about the Steve variety, of course.

  31. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, making fun of a guy for something that could happen to any of us is worse than having a go at a Slashdot Editor who hasn't even come close to dragging down two decades worth of standards. Dipshit.

  32. Re:Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your post was good read until you put race into it.

  33. Skynet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many times has skynet gone after Sarah and/or John can failed? Looks like skynet finally figured out a better target.

  34. Re:Whitewash by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    So there was an 18 hour rehearsal scheduled for Sunday for the next weeks worth of filming isn't a party lifestyle. It's show business.

  35. Re:Really, Anton? by Mike+Frett · · Score: 1

    Presidents can't bring back Jobs. You can't force companies to come back or stay. You can entice them to come back, but it's ultimately their choice. Walls? That's why Ladders and Shovels were made.

  36. Re: About time EditorDavid by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    So how do you get out of your car and get behind it enough that it's able to run you down and kill you through gravity alone?

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  37. Re:Really, Anton? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

    Especially no President can bring back Steve Jobs, unless the next President is some type of necromancer who can raise the dead.

  38. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know. I have never lived or done business anywhere with a steep incline leading to or ending with a security gate. In fact, any place I go to seems to go out of its way to be on level ground. So you'll pardon me for not acting all high and mighty in a situation I haven't actually been tested on.

  39. Im more interested in exploring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...sexual congress with a nubile negress.

  40. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If only slashdot had some kind of comment rating and filtering system so you could block stupid crap like that from being seen. If it did, I would filter out the -1 ratings.

  41. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by Nidi62 · · Score: 0

    Wait and see what happens when your army is 20% muslim

    Which kind? The majority of Muslims that actually follow the Quran and believe in peace, charity, and tolerance, or the few who follow hadiths and fatwas written centuries and millennia after the original text and use them to kill, buy 12 year old virgins so they can get laid, and drink and take drugs because they are probably going to be dead within the year because of the atrocities they commit and the fact that they declare jsut about everyone in the world (including the first group of Muslims) to be their enemy?

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  42. Things happen to people with Russian background by Max_W · · Score: 1

    Sharapova was disqualified, the same about the football team. Fans were beaten up in Marseilles. Russian Olympic team was banned from Rio Olympic games. Now this... Anton Elchin was also from Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  43. The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifter by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

    I'm really not understanding what the heck Chrysler is thinking these days. A few weeks ago I rented a car with Hertz and they gave me a Chrysler 200. It has a rotary shifter. Basically it's knob you turn to shift. I hated it. But I will say that it wasn't all that hard to get the car into the right gear. I just didn't like the shifter at all. Turning a knob to shift is weird.

  44. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wait and see what happens when your army is 20% muslim

    Colour is so over rated as a divisionary point these days

    Interestingly, people used to worry about the Catholics, or Papists as they were called, like they do today's Muslims. Seems, like the military survived that, too. Face it, bigotry is just a statement about how close minded and self centered we really are.

  45. tweeted a link to a picture posted on instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that was the saddest part...

  46. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    Wait and see what happens when your army is 20% muslim

    They'll install more crescent markers (instead of crosses or stars of David) at Arlington? Other than that, I can't think of any important differences.

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  47. Re:Whitewash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My internal parser just melted down trying to parse this.

  48. Re:The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifte by swb · · Score: 1

    It's the Windows 8 start menu of gear shifters.

  49. Re:Really, Anton? by AC-x · · Score: 1

    I know necromancy, I have the best spells. I have the best, but there is no better spell than ph'nglui mglw'nafh trump r'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

  50. Re:About time EditorDavid by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    As another poster mentioned -- and which seems like a compelling theory -- it could well be that the real cause of the accident was a very poorly designed shifter.

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  51. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL. No shit. You would have to be excessively careless to leave your car, engine running, in neutral, without the handbrake on, sitting atop a hill AND be directly in the path between it and a brick mailbox.

    I mean it still sucks that a young man died, but people need to stop pretending that it's a common way to die.

  52. Re: Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with that is you can miss some good posts that get unfairly downmodded.

    Most of the best posts I have seen on Slashdot were from ACs. Unfortunately, most of the worst posts are also by ACs.

  53. Sloth claims yet another life. by Khyber · · Score: 0

    Is it seriously that fucking difficult to park your vehicle in the garage or driveway where it belongs, and then walk to your mailbox?

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    1. Re:Sloth claims yet another life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, Khyber, you ignorant slut. You weren't even there but you know exactly what happened, right?

    2. Re:Sloth claims yet another life. by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Yup, he drove to his mailbox, put it in park, the parking mechanism failed (in fact his vehicle was one in a recall regarding this exact same fucking thing) and it rolled back and pinned his ass to the mailbox.

      This would not have happened had he bothered to put the vehicle in the garage where it belonged and then gone to the mailbox afterwards.

      I live close to the area. Going out for some rubbernecking is EASY.

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    3. Re:Sloth claims yet another life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you really are a miserable fucker aren't you?

    4. Re:Sloth claims yet another life. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Obviously these machines are too dangerous in the hands of general public. Private ownership should be banned, just like guns.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  54. The following would have prevented his death... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is called a parking brake, not an E-brake, not an emergency brake, a parking brake. Before you ever exit your vehicle you apply the parking brake. This idiot got himself killed by failing to use his parking brake.

  55. Re: Dogs and Kids by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

    How many kids die every year when someone leaves them in a hot car to gamble at a casino or run into Walmart? How many dogs have died the same way?

    These deaths are almost all preventable by vehicle design. It might take a few hours of coding effort at most. Modern cars all have built-in microphones for handsfree. They could be used to detect an occupant in a parked vehicle and enforce safe limits to temperature, or sound an alarm. Of course, human nature being what it is, the clown-drivers would just use this as an excuse to stay longer in the casino and forget the car is running out of fuel.

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  56. Re:The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifte by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

    What, you select "Start" to shut down?

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  57. Re:Life requires one to thing... and accidents hap by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

    What? Now you need a license to operate a horse?

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  58. Only a non-nerd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...would put this in the Science section of the site.

  59. Re:Whitewash by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    Try a lobotomy, then reconnect your parser with a MOSFET to regulate the gain.

  60. Stop making the horrible "new" star trek now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can only hope.

  61. Re: Really, Anton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arise chicken!

    Arise chicken.

  62. Re:The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifte by sconeu · · Score: 1

    I rented the same thing. It freaked me out.

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  63. Re:The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifte by GTRacer · · Score: 1

    Um, I thought the "Click Start to shut down" thing began with Windows 95?

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  64. Yeltsin's vehicle was recalled this year by AnnaZed · · Score: 1

    There is a Fight Club joke in here somewhere, but I haven't the heart to find it. Poor man. "'Star Trek' actor Anton Yelchin's SUV was recalled in April over rollaway risk" http://www.latimes.com/local/l...

  65. Re:Brilliant (Family planning would be brilliant) by AnnaZed · · Score: 1

    What the hell?

  66. Re: About time EditorDavid by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    I'm sure he didn't think it was in neutral, he thought it was in park. Automatic drivers have, for decades now, been taught that there is no "parking brake", only an "emergency brake", and that to park the vehicle, all you have to do is shift the transmission into "park". This has been done by society at large, and by the automakers themselves by making these brakes obscure in many automatic models. Very, very few people actually set their parking brakes in an automatic. I do, but that's because I drove a stick for 20 years, and I know how cars work and that it's not good practice to rely on the transmission to keep the car from rolling. Most people, unlike myself, are not engineers who have done significant auto repair work and studied how they (and their transmissions) work mechanically.

    The problem here was Jeep: they designed a shitty, unsafe shifter that's just a lever with a couple of microswitches which select the transmission position (P-R-N-D), rather than having an actual lever position corresponding to the selection. It's very easy for someone (esp. if they're not really used to the vehicle, as is the case with rental-car drivers) to not realize which position the thing is in, and leave it in neutral, and have it roll. It's happened many, many times, so much that the government forced stupid Jeep to issue a recall on these deathtraps and change them to a more traditional shift lever like everyone else uses. Unfortunately, poor Anton didn't get his fixed in time.

    Personally, I hope Jeep gets the snot sued out of them, and maybe even a criminal judgment for negligence. They are completely at fault here. When there's countless incidents of people having unsafe situations (vehicle rolling) with some cheap-ass shift lever, it's not driver error, it's a shitty design by the automaker, and should be punished. This is almost as bad as the ignition switch fiasco that GM went through, for which they got off way too easy too.

    This just reinforces my resolve against buying any American-branded car ever. They're always cutting corners like this and creating unsafe products in the process.

  67. Re:Whitewash by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    I believe it was a Jeep, and it was most probably one of those stupid Jeeps that had a shitty shifter design that's just basically a 3-position forward/back lever, where you have to look at a tiny indicator on the dashboard to see which position (P, R, N, D) is selected, rather than looking at the actual shifter position as you do in almost every other automatic-transmission car ever made. There've been a LOT of problems with people accidentally leaving this in the wrong position (like neutral) and having the vehicle roll. It's been so bad that Jeep was forced to do a recall to replace these shitty shifters with a more traditional model.

  68. Re: Dogs and Kids by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Fuel shouldn't be a problem: the car should detect the temperature's too high and the occupants are in danger, and automatically open all the windows. As long as the battery is barely working, this will work.

  69. Re:Really, Anton? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    Well, he'll bring back jobs for illegal immigrants which is all he hires anyway.

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  70. Re:The Chrysler 200 had a differently weird shifte by Dusty101 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I ran into this in a recent Chrysler 200 rental as well. And to make matters worse, they mount it up on the dash, just below the similarly-sized rotary volume control for the stereo. Utterly moronic.

  71. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sad outcome.
    If he had a Tesla it may not have happened since opening the driver's door at low or zero speed puts the electric parking brake on (and it will stay on after the door is closed unless drive or reverse are selected) and there are some anti collision systems that prevent those sort of low speed impacts too (saved my dog from being run over once). It seems those will also be present on the new affordable model due in a couple of years.
    RIP

  72. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeep was bought out by Fiat, an Italian company, shortly after the bailouts.

  73. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure drivers tests still test parking on an incline (and turning wheels toward curb) and using the emergency brake. It's just rare to use it unless on an incline.

  74. Re: About time EditorDavid by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Huh? "Still"? When did they *ever* test those things? Assuming you're in the USA, that is.

    I had my driving test way back in 1990. The instructor had me: back out of the parking space at the DMV center (standard perpendicular space), pull out of the parking lot, take a right turn onto a 2-lane street, drive 100 feet or so to the intersection (DMV center was at an intersection), take a right turn, then take an immediate right turn back into the DMV parking lot, then park.

    That was over a quarter-century ago. If they ever had rigorous driving tests, it must have been many decades ago.

  75. Re: About time EditorDavid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My last driving test was back in 2002, because I let my license expire due to living abroad for several years. They had me pull forward through a "drive thru" style area where the test instructor got into my car. She had me drive around a block, which had speed bumps. Then she made me pull up next to a curb and back up in a straight line for 20 feet without hitting the curb or moving more than 12 inches away. After that she had me drive to an on ramp, enter the freeway, merge into the next lane over, merge back over to the right lane, exit, get back on the freeway going back, exit where we first got on the freeway and take her back to the DMV.

    There was no test for parking on an incline, but it was more involved than what you did in 1990.

  76. Re:Really, Anton? by C0R1D4N · · Score: 1

    Yes, I particularly enjoy all the Canadian towns "welcoming people escaping Trump". So long as you have a 4 year degree, a job offer and six figures of assets. Requirements to emigrate to Canada without marriage being a factor.