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Hillary Clinton Chooses Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine As Running Mate (go.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine has been chosen as Hillary Clinton's running mate -- a man she called a "relentless optimist" who "devoted his life to fighting for others." Kaine has long been considered to be at the top of Clinton's short list. He was previously vetted for the vice presidency by Barack Obama in 2008. Kaine was an early supporter of Clinton's, appearing at a "Ready for Hillary" breakfast in May 2014 where he urged her to enter the 2016 presidential race. Kaine told NBC in June that he "encouraged her to run in May of 2014, because I could telescope forward and see some of the challenges that this nation would be facing. And I decided that by reason of character, by reason of background, and experience, but also especially by reason of results, she would be the most qualified person to be president in January of 2017." Prior to being elected to the Senate, Kaine served as governor and lieutenant governor of Virginia. In 2009, President Obama picked Kaine to lead the Democratic National Committee. Last week, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump announced Mike Pence as his VP running mate.

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  1. I know where I stand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "devoted his life to fighting for others."

    Liberal: "I want someone who'll fight for me."
    Conservative: "I want someone who'll leave me the fuck alone."

    1. Re:I know where I stand by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      The neat thing here is that everything you just whined about doesn't describe liberalism

      That depends on where you live. In Europe, a "liberal" is a libertarian. In America, a "liberal" is a progressive, or what Europeans would call a social democrat. In Australia, a "liberal" is a conservative.

  2. Am I that out of touch? by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    90% of his votes in the last 6 months have been, IMHO, wrong. Guy wants more H1-Bs. Guy likes TPP. Guy likes longer copyrite protection for big companies. And he voted against abortion?

    This is the Democrat "safe" nomination to both innoculate HRC against her transgressions, and help her attack Trump?

    dafuq?

    1. Re:Am I that out of touch? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Informative

      So we have a democratic VP that is pro TPP and has no problem with Americans that can't find jobs.

      We have a GOP candidate's daughter that more or less pitched parental rights, and they applauded it. Then a GOP candidate that came out against TPP. WTF is going on with this race.

    2. Re:Am I that out of touch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't you just hate it when real life doesn't fit the "my team is good in every way and the other team is bad in every way" narrative?

  3. Tim Kaine & TPP by CanEHdian · · Score: 5, Informative
    And our friend Tim Kaine is a big supporter of the TPP (with the exception of dispute resolution) as of hourse before the news broke.

    " I think it’s an upgrade in intellectual property protections,”

    Just the guy we need, another Joe Biden. Source

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  4. Thank god for Trump! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, who would vote for this ticket if not for him? Trump is Hillary's biggest asset in this election.

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    1. Re:Thank god for Trump! by schwit1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Trump is Hillary's biggest asset in this election."

      And vice versa.

    2. Re:Thank god for Trump! by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But what happened to all the good Republican candidates?

      They got starved out by the press because Trump sucked all the air out of the room. The same thing happened on the other side of the Ruling Party. Their last reasonable prospect was Jim Webb, but he couldn't get any attention with the press all working for Hillary to sink Bernie.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Thank god for Trump! by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There there did not seem to be one Republican contender of the calibre of John McCain or Mitt Romney.

      Are you kidding me? McCain and Romney were clowns. It's like the Republicans said "okay, who's turn is it to lose next?", just like they did with Bob Dole. They constantly choose the weakest candidates. The only time they manage to win is when the Dems pick someone even worse.

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    4. Re:Thank god for Trump! by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it appears to be that way by design. I believe the intention there is to keep congress as close to 50/50 as possible to make it easier to pass blame back and forth in a game that is called "rotating villain", which came to the forefront during passage of "Obamacare" and removal of the single payer option. In other words, the democrats threw the 2010 midterm elections, and they are doing the exact same thing now.

      Regardless of the results for the presidency, congress should be able to maintain their 95% reelection rate. SNAFU

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    5. Re:Thank god for Trump! by guacamole · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Romney was not a clown. A moderate conservative politician whose Massachusetts "Romneycare" was used as a blueprint by Obama. The problem with the Romney's campaign in 2012 is that it was derailed by the radical wing of the Republican party, which threatened to mow down every candidate who dared not to oppose Obamacare and everything else the incumbent president stood for.

  5. Re:AND GOD CREATED THE EATHER AND by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Considering the state this place is in, he should've taking a bit more time. I mean, look at this lemon of a planet!

    Not to mention the time management of this guy. I mean, think about it, he fucked about with this insignificant pebble orbiting a not really noteworthy sun in a rather plain region of a nondescript arm of a rather standard spiral galaxy in a not really remarkable galaxy cluster for six days and the whole rest, those other planets in our system, the stars and their plants, galaxies, galaxy clusters and whatnot, all that took less than a fucking paragraph!

    Look around you again and notice just how fucked his place is.
    And now imagine how the rest of the creation has to be if THIS is what he spent about 99% of his time on!

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  6. Re:Slight Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Idiot: People that attempt to summarize a group of people with one sentence.

  7. The "so what?" heard around the world! by RyanFenton · · Score: 3, Informative

    Milktoast centrist put in vice president status. Courage required: 0

    WIkipedia entry

    At least the guy is well educated and experienced.

    Not a dramatic choice - but a solid guy all the same. Would be justly called pretty conservative most places outside the US.

    I'd have much preferred an Al Franken or Elizabeth Warren emotionally - but see the virtue in a low-key centrist technocrat.

    Perhaps he's exciting by virtue of being boring in this environment. Get the guy training with some comedians before the debate, and a few good lines with low expectations could have OK results.

    In other news: No news is news, in this news cycle. Which isn't news, with 24 hour news.

    Ryan Fenton

  8. Re:Oh boy by xx_chris · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kaine supports public abortion funding. (Oct 2012) http://www.ontheissues.org/Sen...

  9. Re:Slight Correction by Tawnos · · Score: 3, Funny
  10. Re: Who cares? by meerling · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suspect it's more likely Bills scrotum.

  11. Standard Ruling Party shit. by jcr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Vote for (Trump | Hillary) because (Hillary | Trump)! A vote for any other candidate is really a vote for (Trump | Hillary)! Don't throw your vote away because (Hillary | Trump) is too horrible to contemplate!"

    Fuck that noise. I want a clear conscience, so it's Gary Johnson/William Weld for me.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Standard Ruling Party shit. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So you're voting for Hillary.

      NO, dumbass. I'm voting for Johnson. Fuck you and your guilt-peddling.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Standard Ruling Party shit. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm just pointing out the reality of the matter,

      The reality of the matter is that you can go fuck yourself. If the Republicans wanted my vote, they should have nominated Rand Paul.

      -jcr

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  12. Re:Slight Correction by meerling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? It seems a lot of 'conservatives' have in the past found ways to avoid military service, even when the draft was active.

  13. I can't believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He had to urge her to enter the presidential race?

    She hadn't been chomping at the bit and planning it since before her hubby was prez?

    Well knock me down with a feather.

  14. I never thought I would say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about that libertarian candidate Gary Johnson guys?

  15. Re:Oh boy by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You understand that in the normal course of action about the only thing a VP does is break tie votes in the Senate and, on the very rare occasion, when the President has to be put under for a root canal, temporarily becomes Command in Chief. Other than that, the only purpose of a VP is during an election, to try to ingratiate a President with demographics that might otherwise be fence-sitting. Picking someone with some social conservative views undercuts Trump, a man who though he may ape them from time to time, isn't really a social conservative at all.

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  16. Re: Oh boy by Fwipp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) He tells you the problem with America is with The Other
    2) He tells you he'll kick out The Other
    3) He tells you without The Other, America will be Great Again.

    That's it.

  17. Bold Move by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So she chose an anti-gun, pro-globalism, anti-women's civil rights, pro-collectivism candidate. Basically an Anti-Bernie Sanders.

    Yet she still expects Sanders' supporters to fall in line and kiss the ring in November.

    ... That's a bold play, lets see how it works out for her.

  18. Re: Oh boy by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Insightful

    5- he says whatever he wants. he does not bow down to the racist SJW haters

    This... I'm a white, rich, Republican, and I'm GLAD that he said that he supports LGBT in his speech last night...

    Regardless of your beliefs, rights are rights and if I can marry a woman, then a guy can marry a guy... And I'm free to think he is a sick fuck, and he is free to think I'm a moron, and that's just fine...

    So long as I don't trample his rights and he doesn't trample mine.

    So as a right-wing white Republican, I stand with the LGBT community for their rights, because if I don't defend them, no one will stand with me for mine...

    Rights are rights, period...

  19. Re:Oh boy by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like Mr. Clinton and Carter before him, the democrats have confirmed that the party is not nearly so "liberal" as the weenies like to think. About half of them are every bit as conservative as the republicans, more so if you check deeply at all into their past. They keep a "liberal" faction so those people don't go off and form an alternative party and take their money with them. That is what Sanders' function was during this year's primaries, and it works like a charm every time. How many independents do you think will win congressional seats this year? My money is on zero. And if one or two do win, they will do like Lieberman (and Sanders) did and caucus with the party that provides the biggest rewards. The democrats run a much more deceptive game than the republicans do because they have to. And now it takes a man like Trump to push votes their way, because they put forth such weak, even false "opposition".

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  20. Re:Oh boy by ooloorie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like Mr. Clinton and Carter before him, the democrats have confirmed that the party is not nearly so "liberal" as the weenies like to think.

    I used to be one of those voters: socially liberal and fiscally conservative, and I did vote for Democrats. However, Hillary is unreliable on social liberalism and most of the social liberalism I care about is law anyway. On the other hand, god only knows what Hillary would do on the economy; the only thing that is certain about her is that she is going to use her job to enrich herself. I don't know what I'm going to do in November; the one thing I'm certain about is that I do not want Hillary to become president.

  21. Re:Oh boy by thrich81 · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's 'pro-life' personally but professionally does not impose his beliefs on others.
    Statement from NARAL Pro-Choice America, ""While Senator Kaine has been open about his personal reservations about abortion, he’s maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record in the U.S. Senate. He voted against dangerous abortion bans, he has fought against efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, and he voted to strengthen clinic security by establishing a federal fund for it," NARAL President Ilyse Hogue said in the statement. "

  22. Re:Oh boy by LeDopore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For what it's worth, the magazine The Economist deeply prefers Clinton over Trump. Trump seems to make vague, wishful-thinking promises. The few verifiable economic statements he's made, for instance not having to raise the tax rate yet balancing the budget due to an expected surge of growth, are wild products of wishful thinking.

    On this point, I agree with The Economist. Trump makes a lot of noises about big changes because they sound good to the uneducated. On the other hand, Clinton has a much more complete and realistic picture of what she'd do with economic policy; with Clinton at the helm there would be many fewer changes than with Trump. Given that the last 8 years have seen the Dow recover from the Bush-induced lows in the 6000s to today's record highs in the 18000s and unemployment in America shrink below 5%, more of the same sounds much better than trusting that Trump's string of brainfarts will amount to an even bigger improvement.

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  23. Re: Oh boy by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know why people fail to understand the problem with immigration isn't the people who legally come here to work. Almost no one has a problem with that. It's the millions that flood in without any registration that are the problem. The peach packing plant down the road from me employs a lot of legal workers that come here with the full endorsement of the government. They are not the problem and no one has a problem with them, we all know someone has to pick the peaches and no Americans want those jobs when they can sit home and draw a government check while they watch TV.

  24. Re:Oh boy by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you really believe trump won't be worth 20-50 billion by the time he leaves office? Trump will use his position to enrich himself. Tump has to win If he doesn't he has destroyed his most valuable asset. His brand. 70% of Trump's assets, are overseas in Muslim and Chinese countries, where rich people want to live like rich Americans. Trump uses loop holes to allow rich Chinese to immigrants to get instant green cards.

    Yet you think Hillary will be worse than someone who always screws over those who does work for him.

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  25. Re: Oh boy by shaitand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now substitute "The Jews" for "The Other"