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Hillary Clinton Chooses Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine As Running Mate (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine has been chosen as Hillary Clinton's running mate -- a man she called a "relentless optimist" who "devoted his life to fighting for others." Kaine has long been considered to be at the top of Clinton's short list. He was previously vetted for the vice presidency by Barack Obama in 2008. Kaine was an early supporter of Clinton's, appearing at a "Ready for Hillary" breakfast in May 2014 where he urged her to enter the 2016 presidential race. Kaine told NBC in June that he "encouraged her to run in May of 2014, because I could telescope forward and see some of the challenges that this nation would be facing. And I decided that by reason of character, by reason of background, and experience, but also especially by reason of results, she would be the most qualified person to be president in January of 2017." Prior to being elected to the Senate, Kaine served as governor and lieutenant governor of Virginia. In 2009, President Obama picked Kaine to lead the Democratic National Committee. Last week, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump announced Mike Pence as his VP running mate.
Anti-reproductive rights, anti-gun, pro-war, pro-globalism. Chuck Todd described him as a "comfort choice," which is a great way to spin boring. Kill me now.
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"devoted his life to fighting for others."
Liberal: "I want someone who'll fight for me."
Conservative: "I want someone who'll leave me the fuck alone."
He sounds as deluded and Obama if he thinks Hilary has a record of result, that anything about her character is good, her backgound as an elitist who thinks she is above the law (since she can do whatever she wants without punishment), and she does not have the kind of experience that is good.
But I guess he has to push the narrative no matter how false it is as part of the deal of gaining power.
90% of his votes in the last 6 months have been, IMHO, wrong. Guy wants more H1-Bs. Guy likes TPP. Guy likes longer copyrite protection for big companies. And he voted against abortion?
This is the Democrat "safe" nomination to both innoculate HRC against her transgressions, and help her attack Trump?
dafuq?
is not good for you
" I think it’s an upgrade in intellectual property protections,”
Just the guy we need, another Joe Biden. Source
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
Both are iron fists.. hillary's just has a felt cloth around hers.
I mean, who would vote for this ticket if not for him? Trump is Hillary's biggest asset in this election.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Considering the state this place is in, he should've taking a bit more time. I mean, look at this lemon of a planet!
Not to mention the time management of this guy. I mean, think about it, he fucked about with this insignificant pebble orbiting a not really noteworthy sun in a rather plain region of a nondescript arm of a rather standard spiral galaxy in a not really remarkable galaxy cluster for six days and the whole rest, those other planets in our system, the stars and their plants, galaxies, galaxy clusters and whatnot, all that took less than a fucking paragraph!
Look around you again and notice just how fucked his place is.
And now imagine how the rest of the creation has to be if THIS is what he spent about 99% of his time on!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
This was uncalled for. Really. I'd expect an apology. In the name of all sluts, cunts, butches and whores.
There are limits, ya know?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You'd think since Slashdot has been posting important political stories for over a decade, dipshits like the above would stop asking stupid questions.
Idiot: People that attempt to summarize a group of people with one sentence.
Milktoast centrist put in vice president status. Courage required: 0
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At least the guy is well educated and experienced.
Not a dramatic choice - but a solid guy all the same. Would be justly called pretty conservative most places outside the US.
I'd have much preferred an Al Franken or Elizabeth Warren emotionally - but see the virtue in a low-key centrist technocrat.
Perhaps he's exciting by virtue of being boring in this environment. Get the guy training with some comedians before the debate, and a few good lines with low expectations could have OK results.
In other news: No news is news, in this news cycle. Which isn't news, with 24 hour news.
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But remember that it does reflect your character.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Funny, where have I seen people like that?
Where is Slashdot when Trump announced pence?
Uh, right here?
If the froth coming out of your mouth wasn't foaming up over your eyes for just a minute, you may have even seen it listed in the "Related Links" for this very article, right below the summary!
Is there anything on earth that qualifies as "unbiased" to you?
I suspect it's more likely Bills scrotum.
"Vote for (Trump | Hillary) because (Hillary | Trump)! A vote for any other candidate is really a vote for (Trump | Hillary)! Don't throw your vote away because (Hillary | Trump) is too horrible to contemplate!"
Fuck that noise. I want a clear conscience, so it's Gary Johnson/William Weld for me.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Really? It seems a lot of 'conservatives' have in the past found ways to avoid military service, even when the draft was active.
What the fuck? Seriously? Anyone else who said this would burst out laughing. Hillary has zero character. Her background is rotten. Her results? Like what? Starting an undeclared war in Libya so her buddies could make money? This just doesn't pass the giggle check. How can educated people DO these things?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Let's face it, your candidate sucks balls/ass/dick/like a $2 whore/whatever!
They're all liars and politicians.
One small caveat. Trump isn't a politician, he's a wannabe politician, which I rate even worse than an actual politician, but even if you don't, it's certainly in no way better.
You wanna get upset and flame and troll and vent? I don't care, just realize that if you resort to name calling or making unverifiable or flatly false statements, you will be called out for it and prove yourself an unthinking fool for all the internet to know.
If you stick to actual facts, I for one won't fault you for that. Facts are facts. But the B.S. flying around is really just making this whole place like a trailer park getting hit with a tornado that just went through the sewage plant. After all, you're supposed to be intelligent geeks, not foaming at the mouth rabid political sheep.
Just so you know, I shall now ignore all threads on this subject now, as I expect the only thing that will be posted in reply to mine are either agreements, or more likely more rabid foam & spittle from the toxic sheep. Thanks for reading.
He had to urge her to enter the presidential race?
She hadn't been chomping at the bit and planning it since before her hubby was prez?
Well knock me down with a feather.
How about that libertarian candidate Gary Johnson guys?
Trump will restore law and order! He will Make America Safe Again!
Who will make it safe from Trump? Who watches the Watchmen?
"No controlling legal authority" -- Al Gore "No one would prosecute"--James Comey Welcome to our new nobility!
... it has to piss Bernie Sanders supporters off ...
Well, maybe because he's part of the political machine that rigged things in favor of Hillary and now he gets his reward for doing so. From the summary: ... In 2009, President Obama picked Kaine to lead the Democratic National Committee."
"Kaine was an early supporter of Clinton's, appearing at a "Ready for Hillary" breakfast in May 2014 where he urged her to enter the 2016 presidential race
He's just being paid for services rendered.
So she chose an anti-gun, pro-globalism, anti-women's civil rights, pro-collectivism candidate. Basically an Anti-Bernie Sanders.
Yet she still expects Sanders' supporters to fall in line and kiss the ring in November.
... That's a bold play, lets see how it works out for her.
You finally made a RELEVANT reference.
Kaine told NBC in June that he "encouraged her to run in May of 2014, because I could telescope forward and see some of the challenges that this nation would be facing."
A little warning of all of the terror attacks would have been nice.
The libertarians are totally clueless on immigration. Even among Anglo-culture whites, their is limited enthusiasm for their ideas. Amongst non-Anglo non-whites there almost no support whatsoever.
The libertarians are apparently content to ensure they remain marginal by being all in favor of importing an endless stream of folks who don't agree with them on anything.
Wake up and smell the biodiversity! The evidence is right in front of you.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
I'm only seeing one sentence there, smart guy.
That's not a fist it's a cankle
Easy to talk smack on someone you don't agree with but the Nazi comment is used when you got nada or you are just retarded.
Saying you want to know who is entering your nation is not racist. Saying illegal immigration is a problem is not racist. Saying we have made horrible 'trade' deals that made Americans suffer isn't racist. Saying that we need to bring manufacturing jobs back from China isnt racist. Etc.
But please...keep the eloquent commentary coming.
I am old enough to see things from a different prospective, my father was in WWII, so I don't toss around 'nazi' lightly. Having a different opinion does not make you a nazi and to compare what happened not that long ago with someone that says things are out of control and we need to get a handle on it does not make them evil. I live close to the border with Mexico and shit is out of control. As in 'I cant go into that area of land I own or I will be shot at' put of control. And not just for Americans...for the poor souls that get treated like modern slaves since we have not enforced our laws, allowed them to come here and be underpaid and poorly treated by employers, and just look the other way while the businesses that abuse them avoid all scrutiny. But it wasn't always like that. Under Bush ICE actually went afyer the business and not the workers. But screw Bush, let the indentured servants just get fucked 'cus it sounds good on The Daily Show. Right? And lets just ignore the fact that we have a very open immigration policy in place. Think ours sucks? Try damn near anywhere else. Unless you bring something special to the table nearly everyone else will tell you to look elsewhere.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of Trump I think that the fact that both sides are scared of him says a lot. Both sides are full of crap, corrupt, and don't give a shit about the people. And I will take that option over Clinton all day long.
And frankly anyone that wants to shout down people that they disagree with are just useful idiots to politicians that make a fair living but retire with insanity levels of wealth.
Disagree. It is good and needed, and frankly the issues we have today are the result of people not having civil discussions about our nation. But if your talking points are comments taken out of context, flat out lies, or 'fuck you nazi'....you are a fucking moron. And bonus 'fuck you' if you live with your parents, had zero or few jobs, and have never tried to start a business. Things start to look a lot different with experience.
So make a point or fuck off. Sound bites and questionable 'quotes' are not a point. And if you think someone saying we need to fix a few things that are legitimate issues makes them a "Nazi" you need to read up on history a bit 'cus you are not participating. You are a pawn. See the DNC email leaks for examples. They talk about you a lot.
So is the world's worst living war criminal.
Solidly pro-life, which will undercut demagoguery from Stepford Democrats that ermagurd you must vote D to protect a woman's right to choose.
The virtue of having his lips sewn to the sphincter of Goldman Sachs? He wants more deregulation of the banks, and (like Hillary) is pro-TPP.
I see that a local member of the local National Socialist Deutch Arbeit Party has decided to make his obligatory appearance.
Where would the internet be if not for you NSDAP boys?
If you're looking for a socialist workers party to vote fo this election, your closest match is Hillary; she's not just in favor of the usual socialist workers party priorities, but she's aven in favor of uniting all of Europe under a german boot, and building up the agencies that spy on citizens. She thought she had her own personal enigma machine, but she misunderstood the instructions for how to wipe it.
“Possession of a handgun within New York City requires a New York City handgun license or a special permit from the city police commissioner validating a state license within the city,” the NRA-ILA said. “Even New York state licenses are generally not valid within New York City unless a specific exemption applies, such as when the New York City police commissioner has issued a special permit to the licensee or 'the firearms covered by such license are being transported by the licensee in a locked container and the trip through the city of New York is continuous and uninterrupted.'"
You need medical help. Sorry to have to be the one to tell you.
CAP === 'industry'
That's actually an artificially grown skin to blend in better with the general population.
Absolutely right. Always have hypocrites in every walk of life. Like the southern baptist girls who get a "D&C" while mommy and daddy rant about abortion. And anti-gun columnists that shoot trespassers with their pistols. Plenty of do as I say not as I do on both sides.
George W. Bush was a fighter pilot, even though he well understood the dangers after his father (a bomber pilot) was shot down over the Pacific in WWII.
At first I thought they were going to mate while running. Oh, the horror!
The only reason the last few VP picks existed was for impeachment shields.
No one would dare impeach Bush or Obama because the VP would be worse.
It wouldn't surprise me if she gets an impeachment charge before her first year of office ends with Kaine as the VP. If she Chose Pelosi or Warren the Republicans would at least think about it before going forward. Even Bernie would have been a better shield and at least his followers would vote Clinton in the hopes that Bernie gets in through the back door instead of sitting back at home or voting Trump out of spite.
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I knew she wouldn't PICK Bernie (as if he would have accepted), and had a strong feeling she wouldn't go with Warren (wouldn't want another woman with better progressive bonafides sharing her spotlight). But to go with Someone as pro-TPP and pro-establishment as Tim Kaine is an obvious sign that she is just assuming that the progressive wing of the electorate will just fall in line anyway, and that any concessions given to Sanders in the platform process will be tossed aside immediately after the election. Trying to court moderate repugs who dislike Trump is more important to her than solidifying her own party, especially when it might make the big $$$ donors uneasy.
Between her VP pick and the latest Guccifer document dump detailing the DNC's program of sabotaging the Sanders campaign, I am hoping that Bernie takes a page from Ted Cruz' playbook and uses his keynote speech at the convention to urge progressive voters to vote their conscience, and go for Jill Stein!
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Four days to make one star system, then copy-paste the rest?
Many GOP candidates have been against TPP. A large number of Republicans re pro gay marriage.
Basically Republicans have been on the right side of many arguments for some times, but that fact has been obscured by the media so you don't understand the true party of fascism really is. This election season, in large part because Trump is not afraid of the media disliking him, the mask is slipping, the Democrats think that power is so assured they no longer fear showing you just what they really support...
After all, Hillary supports all of the same things her VP pick does.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Bernie got _lot_ of concessions in the party platform. Like it or not she's got to balance that with the party's right wing. There's not enough left wing voters to get her in office. Also speaking of "Like it or not" there's Wall Street to consider. You can't just pretend those guys don't exist. You'll lose.
Hilary's biggest problem is the same one Obama has: She's actually planning on governing. That means she has to compromise, form alliances and work within the system. The only way to really "tear down" the system is with horrible, horrible violence. That sounds nice when it's happening somewhere in the Middle East. Not so much when it's in your own city.
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They has to be one of the most incoherent conspiracy theories ever. Seek psychiatric help.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
You seriously expected Hillary to pick a more progressive VP? Pandering to the progressive left wing will not work for Hillary. The ones that are still holding out, after $15 min wage (which as some one living in the midwest, I think is a huge mistake), and tuition-free education at state univ for those making under $125K, will never be satisfied by however far Hillary's pick is to the left. Also, a pro-establishment and part of the establishment candidate, will obviously pick a pro-establishment and part of the establishment running mate. That is the definition of establishment. Tell me you are not surprised by that.
DNC's program of sabotaging the Sanders campaign
Really? DNC worked with Hillary, and favored Hillary. Why should they not, when they dont decide the candidate, and the people do. Being part of the establishment does mean you get help from the establishment.
we all know someone has to pick the peaches and no Americans want those jobs when they can sit home and draw a government check while they watch TV.
This is ladder work, kids, in 95 degree heat.
What you need to succeed in harvesting high-value perishables is a gentle touch, speed, stamina and experience.
That makes it a young man's game. Migrant labor. You cannot do this part time and get any good at it at all. Oh, and you'll need a willingness to work for sub-minimal wages without meal breaks or other amenities which were common in industrial work about one hundred years back.
Which is why seasonal recruitment from the urban welfare rolls never really works.
''For agriculture, one of our real differences if the country goes that way [increasing the minimum wage] is that exemptions really don't do us much good because we're competing in the marketplace with jobs that will be paying $15 an hour.''
Presently, agriculture employees [in California] are exempted from labor code provisions regarding wage, hour, meal break and other working conditions. Known as the Phase-In Overtime for Agricultural Works Act of 2016, the new bill would remove this exemption and would create a schedule that would phase in overtime requirements for agricultural workers over the course of four years, beginning in 2017.
Under the proposed legislation, beginning July 1, 2017, agricultural workers would receive overtime for all work after nine and one-half hours daily, or in excess of 55 hours in one work week. The thresholds for daily and weekly overtime would be further reduced each subsequent year until January 2020, at which point agricultural employees would receive overtime for work beyond eight hours a day or 40 hours weekly.
Minimum wage brings headaches for growers
I am with you 100%. Here we have an election with two candidates, neither of whom I would trust to take out the trash at night, and both of whom should be in jail. And each of them has only the "Well I'm better than the alternative" as an argument in their favor.
Well excuse me for noticing that there is a third alternative who is better than either. My Johnson/Weld signs are proudly displayed on my front Lawn and the bumper stickers are on the cars. I'm a lifelong Republican who at 57 is abandoning the party for the sinking ship it is and going with something better. Go Libertarian!
So when your space boogeyman turns you to salt, can I have all your stuff?
DNC worked with Hillary, and favored Hillary. Why should they not, when they dont decide the candidate, and the people do.
Why shouldn't they? Their own bylaws and rules (Article 5, Section 4) , for starters...
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âoeThe Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.â
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He DOES NOT say the problem is "the other".
He says the problems are:
1. Incompetent politicians making stupid, bad, thousand-page-long trade bills.
2. Politicians and big businesses cooperating to import ILLEGAL laborers into America to push down wages
3. Corrupt politicians not upholding their oaths and actually enforcing the laws on the books that require illegal aliens to be deported, and worse they actively unleash illegal alien criminals back into US society over and over and over again where thousands of aAmerican CITIZENS of ALL ethnicities have been killed, raped, mugged, etc
4. Incompetent or corrupt politicians who have admitted there is no way to properly screen people from parts of the world currently ensnared in radical jihadi violence, are nonetheless importing thousands of people from those very ares into the country. Trump insists this must be stopped until governmenr becomes competent at screening them. Anybody claiming this constitutes a "permanent ban" are either lying or are admitting that politicians and bureaucrats will NEVER become competent, in which case all their talk about it already being safe to import these people with the current admitted phony screening is exposed as a lie.
Since when did screening to block entry of jihadi whackos (people with a toxic and dangerous BELIEF system) constitute either racism or a general ooposition to "the other"?
Since when did wanting to follow the law and eject people who ILLEGALLY enter a place (something people of all races do) while supporting LEGAL immigration constitute either racism or a general opposition to "the other"?
The modern left appears to have no honest winning arguments and must always erect strawman arguments to knock down. People who do this might well have a great commitment to their opinions, but they have no confidence in the validity of their opinions.
Liberal: "I want someone who'll fight for me."
Conservative: "I want someone who'll leave me the fuck alone."
Dividing everything into 'liberal' versus 'conservative' is highly corrosive substantive discussion.
And you could easily switch those quotes and have them work, by the way.
It was on the radio here, at 5am, and I was still half asleep. I only heard Clinton, running-mate and Cain, and I thought she had picked John McCain as running mate.
I thought that was terribly terribly clever of her...
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