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Hillary Clinton Chooses Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine As Running Mate (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine has been chosen as Hillary Clinton's running mate -- a man she called a "relentless optimist" who "devoted his life to fighting for others." Kaine has long been considered to be at the top of Clinton's short list. He was previously vetted for the vice presidency by Barack Obama in 2008. Kaine was an early supporter of Clinton's, appearing at a "Ready for Hillary" breakfast in May 2014 where he urged her to enter the 2016 presidential race. Kaine told NBC in June that he "encouraged her to run in May of 2014, because I could telescope forward and see some of the challenges that this nation would be facing. And I decided that by reason of character, by reason of background, and experience, but also especially by reason of results, she would be the most qualified person to be president in January of 2017." Prior to being elected to the Senate, Kaine served as governor and lieutenant governor of Virginia. In 2009, President Obama picked Kaine to lead the Democratic National Committee. Last week, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump announced Mike Pence as his VP running mate.
"devoted his life to fighting for others."
Liberal: "I want someone who'll fight for me."
Conservative: "I want someone who'll leave me the fuck alone."
90% of his votes in the last 6 months have been, IMHO, wrong. Guy wants more H1-Bs. Guy likes TPP. Guy likes longer copyrite protection for big companies. And he voted against abortion?
This is the Democrat "safe" nomination to both innoculate HRC against her transgressions, and help her attack Trump?
dafuq?
" I think it’s an upgrade in intellectual property protections,”
Just the guy we need, another Joe Biden. Source
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
I mean, who would vote for this ticket if not for him? Trump is Hillary's biggest asset in this election.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Considering the state this place is in, he should've taking a bit more time. I mean, look at this lemon of a planet!
Not to mention the time management of this guy. I mean, think about it, he fucked about with this insignificant pebble orbiting a not really noteworthy sun in a rather plain region of a nondescript arm of a rather standard spiral galaxy in a not really remarkable galaxy cluster for six days and the whole rest, those other planets in our system, the stars and their plants, galaxies, galaxy clusters and whatnot, all that took less than a fucking paragraph!
Look around you again and notice just how fucked his place is.
And now imagine how the rest of the creation has to be if THIS is what he spent about 99% of his time on!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Idiot: People that attempt to summarize a group of people with one sentence.
Milktoast centrist put in vice president status. Courage required: 0
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At least the guy is well educated and experienced.
Not a dramatic choice - but a solid guy all the same. Would be justly called pretty conservative most places outside the US.
I'd have much preferred an Al Franken or Elizabeth Warren emotionally - but see the virtue in a low-key centrist technocrat.
Perhaps he's exciting by virtue of being boring in this environment. Get the guy training with some comedians before the debate, and a few good lines with low expectations could have OK results.
In other news: No news is news, in this news cycle. Which isn't news, with 24 hour news.
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Kaine supports public abortion funding. (Oct 2012) http://www.ontheissues.org/Sen...
Funny, where have I seen people like that?
Where is Slashdot when Trump announced pence?
Uh, right here?
If the froth coming out of your mouth wasn't foaming up over your eyes for just a minute, you may have even seen it listed in the "Related Links" for this very article, right below the summary!
Is there anything on earth that qualifies as "unbiased" to you?
I suspect it's more likely Bills scrotum.
"Vote for (Trump | Hillary) because (Hillary | Trump)! A vote for any other candidate is really a vote for (Trump | Hillary)! Don't throw your vote away because (Hillary | Trump) is too horrible to contemplate!"
Fuck that noise. I want a clear conscience, so it's Gary Johnson/William Weld for me.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Really? It seems a lot of 'conservatives' have in the past found ways to avoid military service, even when the draft was active.
What the fuck? Seriously? Anyone else who said this would burst out laughing. Hillary has zero character. Her background is rotten. Her results? Like what? Starting an undeclared war in Libya so her buddies could make money? This just doesn't pass the giggle check. How can educated people DO these things?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
He had to urge her to enter the presidential race?
She hadn't been chomping at the bit and planning it since before her hubby was prez?
Well knock me down with a feather.
How about that libertarian candidate Gary Johnson guys?
You understand that in the normal course of action about the only thing a VP does is break tie votes in the Senate and, on the very rare occasion, when the President has to be put under for a root canal, temporarily becomes Command in Chief. Other than that, the only purpose of a VP is during an election, to try to ingratiate a President with demographics that might otherwise be fence-sitting. Picking someone with some social conservative views undercuts Trump, a man who though he may ape them from time to time, isn't really a social conservative at all.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
1) He tells you the problem with America is with The Other
2) He tells you he'll kick out The Other
3) He tells you without The Other, America will be Great Again.
That's it.
So she chose an anti-gun, pro-globalism, anti-women's civil rights, pro-collectivism candidate. Basically an Anti-Bernie Sanders.
Yet she still expects Sanders' supporters to fall in line and kiss the ring in November.
... That's a bold play, lets see how it works out for her.
Kaine told NBC in June that he "encouraged her to run in May of 2014, because I could telescope forward and see some of the challenges that this nation would be facing."
A little warning of all of the terror attacks would have been nice.
5- he says whatever he wants. he does not bow down to the racist SJW haters
This... I'm a white, rich, Republican, and I'm GLAD that he said that he supports LGBT in his speech last night...
Regardless of your beliefs, rights are rights and if I can marry a woman, then a guy can marry a guy... And I'm free to think he is a sick fuck, and he is free to think I'm a moron, and that's just fine...
So long as I don't trample his rights and he doesn't trample mine.
So as a right-wing white Republican, I stand with the LGBT community for their rights, because if I don't defend them, no one will stand with me for mine...
Rights are rights, period...
Like Mr. Clinton and Carter before him, the democrats have confirmed that the party is not nearly so "liberal" as the weenies like to think. About half of them are every bit as conservative as the republicans, more so if you check deeply at all into their past. They keep a "liberal" faction so those people don't go off and form an alternative party and take their money with them. That is what Sanders' function was during this year's primaries, and it works like a charm every time. How many independents do you think will win congressional seats this year? My money is on zero. And if one or two do win, they will do like Lieberman (and Sanders) did and caucus with the party that provides the biggest rewards. The democrats run a much more deceptive game than the republicans do because they have to. And now it takes a man like Trump to push votes their way, because they put forth such weak, even false "opposition".
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I used to be one of those voters: socially liberal and fiscally conservative, and I did vote for Democrats. However, Hillary is unreliable on social liberalism and most of the social liberalism I care about is law anyway. On the other hand, god only knows what Hillary would do on the economy; the only thing that is certain about her is that she is going to use her job to enrich herself. I don't know what I'm going to do in November; the one thing I'm certain about is that I do not want Hillary to become president.
Well, unless of course, the actual citizen happens to be a child of Mexican immigrants, and happens to be the judge in a lawsuit where some of his victims, er, students, are suing him for bilking them out of money.
And as he will soon discover, if he manages to become President, for all this talk of how bad illegal Mexican immigrants are, the agriculture industry of the border states would collapse without them.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
That's not a fist it's a cankle
He's 'pro-life' personally but professionally does not impose his beliefs on others.
Statement from NARAL Pro-Choice America, ""While Senator Kaine has been open about his personal reservations about abortion, he’s maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record in the U.S. Senate. He voted against dangerous abortion bans, he has fought against efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, and he voted to strengthen clinic security by establishing a federal fund for it," NARAL President Ilyse Hogue said in the statement. "
So is the world's worst living war criminal.
Solidly pro-life, which will undercut demagoguery from Stepford Democrats that ermagurd you must vote D to protect a woman's right to choose.
The virtue of having his lips sewn to the sphincter of Goldman Sachs? He wants more deregulation of the banks, and (like Hillary) is pro-TPP.
Peter Thiel got a standing ovation at the homophobic RNC. It's a mistake to assume the GOP hates gay people. They just dislike progressive gay people, which is most of them.
For what it's worth, the magazine The Economist deeply prefers Clinton over Trump. Trump seems to make vague, wishful-thinking promises. The few verifiable economic statements he's made, for instance not having to raise the tax rate yet balancing the budget due to an expected surge of growth, are wild products of wishful thinking.
On this point, I agree with The Economist. Trump makes a lot of noises about big changes because they sound good to the uneducated. On the other hand, Clinton has a much more complete and realistic picture of what she'd do with economic policy; with Clinton at the helm there would be many fewer changes than with Trump. Given that the last 8 years have seen the Dow recover from the Bush-induced lows in the 6000s to today's record highs in the 18000s and unemployment in America shrink below 5%, more of the same sounds much better than trusting that Trump's string of brainfarts will amount to an even bigger improvement.
Expected time to finish is 1 hour and 60 minutes.
I don't know why people fail to understand the problem with immigration isn't the people who legally come here to work. Almost no one has a problem with that. It's the millions that flood in without any registration that are the problem. The peach packing plant down the road from me employs a lot of legal workers that come here with the full endorsement of the government. They are not the problem and no one has a problem with them, we all know someone has to pick the peaches and no Americans want those jobs when they can sit home and draw a government check while they watch TV.
Do you really believe trump won't be worth 20-50 billion by the time he leaves office? Trump will use his position to enrich himself. Tump has to win If he doesn't he has destroyed his most valuable asset. His brand. 70% of Trump's assets, are overseas in Muslim and Chinese countries, where rich people want to live like rich Americans. Trump uses loop holes to allow rich Chinese to immigrants to get instant green cards.
Yet you think Hillary will be worse than someone who always screws over those who does work for him.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
"Weenies?" Really? Lets stay focused here, does Kain use Linux? If not, why is this article even existing, other than the fact that he can't spell his family name correctly?
There is no such thing as pro-abortion. Nobody gets abortions as a fun Saturday afternoon activity. There is only pro-choice.
Hillary has proven that she is corrupt and that she commands large amounts of political power, both through her own connections, her husband, and the Clinton Foundation.
Trump is an incompetent, pompous ass and a political newcomer, hated by both Democrats and Republicans. He is lucky if Congress doesn't cut the White House kitchen budget just out of spite. What Trump wants is pretty much irrelevant since he isn't going to get it.
So, yeah, on balance, I think Hillary will be worse.
Let me paraphrase you. You are saying that Clinton is preferable to Trump because she would make fewer economic changes than Trump. Yet at the same time, you're saying that Trump has made virtually no concrete proposals for changes, while Clinton already has a long list of concrete changes lined up. It seems to me that you should conclude that Trump is preferable based on their proposals alone.
Of course, Trump has another advantage when it comes to the economy: Trump is a bumbling idiot with no support in Congress, so he couldn't get Congress to pass gas, let alone legislation.
The unemployment rate is low only because so many people have dropped out of the labor force entirely. The labor force participation rates among 16-54 year olds have all fallen; the only group that labor force participation has risen in is among the 54+, indicative of an inability to retire. Post-recession economic growth has been poor as well compared to other recessions. And Obama's massive crony capitalist handouts have utterly failed to live up to the economic promises he made for them while making the fiscal situation even worse.
So, if the promise is that Clinton will continue Obama's record on the economy, I'm not interested; as far as I'm concerned, even a bumbling idiot like Trump doing nothing for four years is likely better than that.
I knew she wouldn't PICK Bernie (as if he would have accepted), and had a strong feeling she wouldn't go with Warren (wouldn't want another woman with better progressive bonafides sharing her spotlight). But to go with Someone as pro-TPP and pro-establishment as Tim Kaine is an obvious sign that she is just assuming that the progressive wing of the electorate will just fall in line anyway, and that any concessions given to Sanders in the platform process will be tossed aside immediately after the election. Trying to court moderate repugs who dislike Trump is more important to her than solidifying her own party, especially when it might make the big $$$ donors uneasy.
Between her VP pick and the latest Guccifer document dump detailing the DNC's program of sabotaging the Sanders campaign, I am hoping that Bernie takes a page from Ted Cruz' playbook and uses his keynote speech at the convention to urge progressive voters to vote their conscience, and go for Jill Stein!
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Remember that the majority of voters - probably the vast majority, I'd expect - made up their mind before the primaries. They are going to vote for the D or the R, regardless of candidate.
Winning the election is about winning the few undecided voters, and making sure your supporters turn out to vote at a higher rate than the opposing party's supporters.
That means Trump could easily win, not because Republican voters really support him, but because they really hate Hillary - and he knows that. He is using it. That's why his acceptance speech was full of attacks upon her. My favourite was the bit where he claimed she had taken bribes from foreign governments. If he can stir up a powerful enough hate among Republicans, and inspire enough dislike of Hillary among Democrats that many do not bother to vote, he could easily win on turnout alone.
And let's face it: Hillary does not have the personality of a cult leader. She is bland. She does not inspire fanatical mobs the way Trump can.
Why do you care if two guys or two girls want to get married?
Marriage is a legal contract in the eyes of the state, it has to do with property rights, healthcare rights, and so on.
The other option was to remove government from marriage completely and to call them ALL civil-unions and then let people who want to use the term marriage to do so on their own, privately...
Wow. . Just wow..
You sure got a load there. It sounds like your full of the same too.
First, i am not a trump supporter. I will likely vote for him due to my dislike of Hillary though.
With that out of the way, i have to ask if the "uneducated" is the new meme being pushed by Hillary supporters who are wrong about a lot of things and want to address crap they do not themselves understand? You see, every single government budget I have read going back to Carter's as well as purposed tax cuts and or increases in spending rely on future growth to increase revenue so the numbers balance. Trump was doing nothing different than what other politicians including Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have done. You can disagree with the ability for the plan to materialize but to claim it appeals only to the uneducated only shows how uneducated you actually are.
Next, the dow lows were not induced by Bush. He was president when it happened but if you are going to try to pin it on him, you have to acknowledge that he tried to fix it back in the early 2000s and was stopped by a democrat controlled congress. He specifically attempted to address the subprime lending and regulate Fannie and Freddie in their default credit swaps which would have spilled over to the banking industry. But instead, he was shut down and wall street bankers paid Hillary huge sums of money to give speeches before and after their induced financial crisis which dropped the dow.
You go out to talk about unemployment being 5%. That is the U-3 number and doesn't count a lot of long term unemployed. The U-6 number is more accurate and due to changes in the reporting over the years is more accurate to historical comparison. As of may 2006, the U-6 number was at 9.7%. So if changing the rules because policy doesn't work is what you want, then by all means support whoever you think will do that. But don't act like you are the only educated person in the room when all you have to do is say something and the world knows you have a lot to learn.
Now substitute "The Jews" for "The Other"
And yet Trump won the primary and got the Republican nomination. When the Rancor goes down, maybe it's time to stop underestimating the weird kid with a lightsaber?
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
He DOES NOT say the problem is "the other".
He says the problems are:
1. Incompetent politicians making stupid, bad, thousand-page-long trade bills.
2. Politicians and big businesses cooperating to import ILLEGAL laborers into America to push down wages
3. Corrupt politicians not upholding their oaths and actually enforcing the laws on the books that require illegal aliens to be deported, and worse they actively unleash illegal alien criminals back into US society over and over and over again where thousands of aAmerican CITIZENS of ALL ethnicities have been killed, raped, mugged, etc
4. Incompetent or corrupt politicians who have admitted there is no way to properly screen people from parts of the world currently ensnared in radical jihadi violence, are nonetheless importing thousands of people from those very ares into the country. Trump insists this must be stopped until governmenr becomes competent at screening them. Anybody claiming this constitutes a "permanent ban" are either lying or are admitting that politicians and bureaucrats will NEVER become competent, in which case all their talk about it already being safe to import these people with the current admitted phony screening is exposed as a lie.
Since when did screening to block entry of jihadi whackos (people with a toxic and dangerous BELIEF system) constitute either racism or a general ooposition to "the other"?
Since when did wanting to follow the law and eject people who ILLEGALLY enter a place (something people of all races do) while supporting LEGAL immigration constitute either racism or a general opposition to "the other"?
The modern left appears to have no honest winning arguments and must always erect strawman arguments to knock down. People who do this might well have a great commitment to their opinions, but they have no confidence in the validity of their opinions.
Liberal: "I want someone who'll fight for me."
Conservative: "I want someone who'll leave me the fuck alone."
Dividing everything into 'liberal' versus 'conservative' is highly corrosive substantive discussion.
And you could easily switch those quotes and have them work, by the way.