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Stopping Trolls Is 'Now Life and Death For Twitter', Argues Backchannel (backchannel.com)
"This is the year that Twitter's future will be determined," argues Backchannel's editorial director, noting that Twitter's revenue growth is slowing, and "None of the features that cofounder Jack Dorsey has introduced since he returned to the company as CEO last year have succeeded in attracting new users." But Backchannel suggests it's because the trolls "are winning," discouraging new sign-ups and driving existing customers to leave. "We suck at dealing with abuse and trolls on the platform, and we've sucked at it for years," Twitter's CEO wrote in an internal memo in 2015. Backchannel argues bluntly that Twitter "has a hate problem." New submitter mirandakatz writes: It's been exactly three years since Twitter first promised to solve its harassment problem. In those three years, the company has made countless such promises, introducing dozens of new "fixes" and even going so far as to ban notorious troll Milo Yiannopoulos last month. But still, abuse on Twitter continues, and stopping it is now critical to the platform's future success...
"Twitter did an excellent job of inventing a digital platform for realtime idea exchange, but it has yet to create the feature that allows the community itself to ferret out the abusers..." writes Backchannel. "And if it cannot figure out how to eradicate the harassers, Twitter's other challenges will remain intractable."
"Twitter did an excellent job of inventing a digital platform for realtime idea exchange, but it has yet to create the feature that allows the community itself to ferret out the abusers..." writes Backchannel. "And if it cannot figure out how to eradicate the harassers, Twitter's other challenges will remain intractable."
I was under the impression it was something specific to the attacks on Leslie Jones, specifically @Nero forging tweets from her and posting "screenshots" of them in order to whip up hysteria against her.
There was, obviously, a pattern of harassment, but there were very specific actions Yiannopoulos engaged it that were ban-worthy by themselves. The pattern merely contributed to the decision to make the ban pseudo-permanent.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Twitter sucks anyway. It's a bad service run by haters and censors.
Thanks for using the "SJW" moniker. People know and understand what SJWs are and they know and understand why they don't want every discussion to devolve into a social justice war around which topics should get censored.
(This message was posted to preempt the latest SJW tactic of "concern trolling" about the use of the term "SJW". They don't want themselves described that way because it highlights their bad behavior. You are supposed to be on the defensive, not them.)
He was removed because Twitter could only choose between pissing off the SJW crowd or the crowd following him. There was no middle ground for them Twitter could not win in this. They choose to side with the SJWs for the sole reason because they already know what kind of batshit insane shitstorm they're able and willing to cause.
It's a bit like how schools side with the schoolyard bully in the hope that whoever he beats up will stay silent and the bully is happy as long as he can continue bullying. Their problem is now that they're facing two bullies hell bent on kicking each other's ass.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Leslie Jones got called a gorilla and left Twitter. I think she handled that pretty well. Twitter's problem was, should they let this guy keep driving users away from their platform? Believe me, they would have much preferred that Jones stuck around to send the hate back-and-forth for as long as possible.
Twitter doesn't care about hate, they care about their bottom line, and losing users like Jones hurts their bottom line.
And by banning him all they accomplished is giving him a platform. You can't throw a dead cat over your shoulder without hitting a video on how he was treated unfairly by Twitter. I actually remember a video about him declaring that was about the best thing that could happen to him.
Say what you want, he's good at this game. He knows how to play people.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You forgot about her whole punching down campaign in response, including trying to get her followers to harass some of her harassers (still a violation of Twitter rules, something Milo did not do): http://www.breitbart.com/big-h...
There are assholes online, and if you are a celeb you are probably going to get more than your fair share of them. It sucks, and after she stomped off after her own bullying, she returned.
Help Brendan pay off his student loans
Bah, I rather suspect you hate him because he's an outspoken conservative.
I am not the person you responded to, but I hate him because he is emblematic of what conservatism has become, to many people. Before you ask: No, it's not just conservatism. Jill Stein has been pissing me off all month in a completely different way.
I remember when every Slashdot commenter knew that "liberal" and "libertarian" were both kinds of "progressive". We were all united in the cause of human progress, and we all agreed on what the underlying problems were, even if we had ideas about how to fix them.
Post-Cold War, post-9/11, the polarised political machine has convinced us all that the enemy is the people living right next to us. Whether it's the new misogynist on the right or the anti-science hippie on the left, an intense hatred of progress has gripped large parts of the English-speaking world, and Milo represents this self-loathing in its most insanely stupid form. He's far from alone in this, but he is the one we're discussing in this thread.
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Basically, any troll posts should be allowed, but should be very hard for people to find. Twitter is failing to do something which Slashdot has succeeded in doing for years.
Not really, most of the Slashdot old guard has abandoned moderation and the trolls have taken over duties.
The best way to view Slashdot today would be to make invisible anything which has an equal number of +1 and -1 votes. If one troll faction hates it and the other troll faction loves it, it's probably not worth reading.
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The best way to view Slashdot today would be to make invisible anything which has an equal number of +1 and -1 votes. If one troll faction hates it and the other troll faction loves it, it's probably not worth reading.
That touches on the problem of thumb-up/thumb-down moderation often turning into agree/disagree. Slashdot tried to avoid this by naming the different downmods. But this may becoming less effective as newer users moderate as thumbs.
You know if you've got proof of Gamergate actually engaging in harassment, there's been a cash bounty for proof for the last year(it hasn't been collected on). You can easily collect your $200 if you can show it.
I can see why it hasn't been collected on. I googled various varieties of cash bounty gamergate and harassment and came up with nothing. The interesting thing is I've been delivering smackdowns to you for well over a year on gater related articles and this is the first time I've ever heard you mention it.
If a dyed in the wool gater has only just heard of it and it's ungoogleable, it's fair to say that it's so obscure that it's no surprise that it has not been collected on.
SJW n. One who posts facts.