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Microsoft Starts Testing Windows 10's Next Major Update (theverge.com)

Posted by msmash on from the it's-coming dept.

A week after releasing Windows 10 Anniversary Update, Microsoft is already ready to unveil new features for its next major update dubbed Redstone 2. The Verge reports: The new update doesn't have any big new features for public testers yet, as Microsoft is in the early stages of making structural improvements to its OneCore shared code of Windows across PCs, tablets, phones, HoloLens, Xbox, and IoT. The first few builds available for testing "may include more bugs and other issues that could be slightly more painful for some people to live" according to Windows software engineer Dona Sarkar. Microsoft has released Windows 10 build 14901, and the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10. You can opt out of the notifications, and they're just a test for now.

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  1. Microsoft-to-English translation by gweilo8888 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoftese: "the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10"

    English: "the company is testing out a new ad delivery system within File Explorer to push upsells on new features added to Windows 10"

    1. Re: Microsoft-to-English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking more like "clippy reincarnated" only with the evil eyes and satanic horns. -- "I see you're trying to be productive and do some work, here are some unrelated bullshit advertisements to distract you." Then count down until the ads become an attack vector, in 3, 2 -- whoops probably too late.

    2. Re: Microsoft-to-English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Count down? New ad streams usually have pre-buys to make sure they are profitable from the start. Barring a premium reserve for big accounts, which isn't uncommon anymore, malvertising is going to be in the queue before the patch even gets pushed.

    3. Re:Microsoft-to-English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The default file explorer tool in Windows 10, like Windows 7 before it, sucks. There are 3d party tools out there that beat the pants off it. Why can't we have full regular expression searches of files by extension, date created or modified, file type, file contents, or any other file system attribute built in? Is that too much to ask? Instead they offer "advanced query syntax" except it's not all that advanced. Full RegEx support is advanced. Anything less is not worthy of serious computer users.

    4. Re:Microsoft-to-English translation by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Why can't we have full regular expression searches of files by extension, date created or modified, file type, file contents, or any other file system attribute built in? Is that too much to ask? Instead they offer "advanced query syntax" except it's not all that advanced. Full RegEx support is advanced. Anything less is not worthy of serious computer users.

      Seeing that they've done so well with bash, maybe Microsoft can work on a port of KDE to Windows next. Konqueror/Dolphin have had those very capabilities for 10+ years.

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    5. Re:Microsoft-to-English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll just continue to use Directory Opus. It costs money, but it's the best file manager in existence.

  2. When will Windows go to 11? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear it will be 1 louder.

    1. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by dejitaru · · Score: 1

      Never... 10 is the last. kind of like OSX/MacOS. But then again this is microsoft, so who knows.

    2. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I was a beta tester of theirs when they were going from 8 to 10. But this time, there's no reason for me to - I'll just take the upgrades whenever they occur

    3. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Never, Microsoft is trying its best at screwing and alienating its customers for short time profits. After few years there will be no MS anymore as it is bought out by some dotcom bubble company.

    4. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Windows 10 is supposedly the "last version", and everything from here-on is an update to it. (When Microsoft realizes that 10 has the rotten stink that "Windows 8" and "Windows Vista" and "Windows Me" have/had.. they'll come up with a different name. But Microsoft is more than a little dense these days, it might take them a year or two to see the light)

      Which is kinda exactly like OSX.. however, as soon as Apple saw Microsoft mimic their 15-year-old version scheme (and number; "X" = "10"), Apple ditched it immediately and now simply use "macOS". But stupidly, they turned-around and copied Microsoft by choosing a "vista-like" version name "Sierra" to go with it.

      "Sierra", incidentally, also happens to run right into existing "Sierra" as a software trademark, currently held and used by Activision Blizzard. Apple had to license "Classic" for use with a couple old model lines because of existing trademark, they got in trouble with Apple (the music label), several companies over "i"whatevers.... now another litigation-happy company owns a long-existing trademark Apple chose to use. I cant wait for the fireworks. Pass the popcorn.

    5. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by fizzer06 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'll just take the upgrades whenever they occur

      Do you have a choice?

    6. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even THIS they manage to just copycat Apple.

      Thank God for Linux!

    7. Re:When will Windows go to 11? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about 'Yosemitie' and 'El Capitan' then? IMHO, Sierra is logical. At the moment, it is an internal name so Blizzard will have to hold fire until it is released. You never know, they might not mind. Let the $1000/hour lawyers sort it out.

  3. Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft starts sending burly goons to users' houses to "upgrade" their computers.

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    1. Re:Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that win10 isn't free anymore, do wiun7/8 users still get aggressively hounded to upgrade while using their system?

    2. Re:Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dunno. I still don't have the balls to re-enable Windows Update.

    3. Re:Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno. I still don't have the balls to re-enable Windows Update.

      I have Windows 7. I have Windows Update installed, but I refuse to let it automatically update or download anything without my approval.

      I even have it setup to not included "recommended updates" with the "important stuff". It's that last bit that got GWX installed on everybody's computers.

      Running Windows 7 with Windows Update in "manual mode" is fairly simple to setup CORRECTLY once you know what you are doing.

      Most users installed Windows 7, accepted the default setting for Windows Update, then whined all over the Internet about M$ updates chewing up their bandwidth, burning up their "data caps" ... and even more to the point, whining about M$ installing crap like GWX or new drivers that "broke" their systems.

      Kids, you really need to LEARN how to use your toys properly and RESEARCH what stuff does so the rest of us don't have to listen to your whiny cry-baby complaints.

    4. Re:Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kids, you really need to LEARN how to use your toys properly and RESEARCH what stuff does so the rest of us don't have to listen to your whiny cry-baby complaints.

      And you need to learn to not be such an arrogant turd.

    5. Re:Are you sure you don't want Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's arrogance to be correct and suggest people really do need to try and learn *as much as they can* about what they're actually dealing with in the real world, then sign me up. Disingenuous responses like yours just suggest that people shouldn't care because of some remark with is basically straight out of high-school peer politics.

      You need to grow up and realise statements like yours are counter productive and all they achieve is allowing people to feel good about being ignorant. People like you are the reason that people like Donald Trump get political nominations.

      You're too stupid to know or care or even be bothered, cos you know, anyone who suggests people attempt to lift themselves out of mental malaise and a general inability to assess things on their own terms and merits is just being an arrogant turd.

  4. A good start, but... by Jahoda · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10.

    Honestly, this is a really great step forward in user friendliness, but I really think they can go deeper. What I bet that users in middle america would really respond to is some sort of animated anthropomorphic cartoon folder - let's name him "tabby" - that can pop up every few minutes to offer helpful services from the Azure/Office 365 ecosystem.

    1. Re:A good start, but... by Dust038 · · Score: 1

      Like Clippy!

    2. Re:A good start, but... by dejitaru · · Score: 1

      If his name is tabby... make it a cat then?

    3. Re:A good start, but... by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      nah, screw with people and make tabby the slot...

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    4. Re:A good start, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Tabby can configure the services optimally for the client and represent a realistic cost estimate for the coming year for using the services before asking the permission to open the account and send a bill, then maybe, just maybe MS could win new customers among the traditional small to midsize companies feeling left behind ever since the dot com boom came.

  5. I clicked the [ X ] to Opt Out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And now I woke up with my kidney missing.

  6. Obligatory by Merk42 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft? LOL it's bad becuz M$. I didn't read the summary but I'm sure it's about EEE and other things I won't want.

    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a biter, kid.

  7. Nobody cares by dargndorp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft has announced ages ago that Win 10 will be on a perpetual rolling release. There's absolutely no reason to report on the breakfast choices of every junior developer in Redmond.

    tl;dr: This is not news.

    1. Re:Nobody cares by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Especially since they haven't finished releasing Redstone 1 yet (error 0xa0000400 etc.). Lots of people can't install the upgrade and the current feedback from Microsoft is a vague "we're working on it" and to work around the error by downloading a Win 10 ISO, wiping the HDD and doing a clean install. Because apparently updating their own operating system is a task Microsoft hasn't faced before.

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    2. Re:Nobody cares by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      I dunno, that toastie she's eating looks mighty delish.

    3. Re:Nobody cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there somewhere a release notes document for the Redstone with the known issues and error codes? Or even some correlations with the hardware used?

    4. Re:Nobody cares by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Nope, only a few online discussions that point towards Win 10 Education being most commonly affected.

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    5. Re:Nobody cares by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Damn you! Now I want one of those. :)

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    6. Re:Nobody cares by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      No wonder Win10 is full of bugs and the update borked.

      These jokers are the ones working on it.

    7. Re:Nobody cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yuck. The sight of that cheese is enough to make you want to vomit.

  8. Fork the Core and Window Manager. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3

    Seriously. Let me pick if I want a Tablet or Windows 2000 Classic or Aero or what ever window manager to run. (I want to run AwesomeWM).

    Upgrade the kernel and all the other core utilities (I like them) and don't force yet another window manager change on me (or my unsuspecting family).

    Congratulations, you can now leave off the WM from the server component.

    1. Re:Fork the Core and Window Manager. by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I think that is a great idea.

      Why isn't it the case that new versions of Windows allow you to pick the UI from any previous version of Windows?

      Or at least come with some "retro" themes.

      I still miss Vista's Aero... animated desktop backgrounds were the best!

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    2. Re:Fork the Core and Window Manager. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      > I still miss Vista's Aero

      My Windows machines look as close to Windows 2000 as I can make them.

    3. Re:Fork the Core and Window Manager. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Why isn't it the case that new versions of Windows allow you to pick the UI from any previous version of Windows?

      The same reason no other software allows that either. It takes time (i.e. money) and engineering resources (i.e. money) to make that work and mostly nobody gives a crap.

    4. Re:Fork the Core and Window Manager. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      >Why isn't it the case that new versions of Windows allow you to pick the UI from any previous version of Windows?

      The same reason no other software allows that either. It takes time (i.e. money) and engineering resources (i.e. money) to make that work and mostly nobody gives a crap.

      You've not actually installed any common Linux distro lately—if ever—I'm guessing?

      Let me supplement your experience, since it's apparently sadly lacking: Last time I did an openSUSE installation, I had my choice of desktops—KDE 4, KDE 5, Gnome 2, Gnome 3, LXDE, XFCE, Window Maker, and a couple of others. And I could have added a KDE 3 repo and installed that as well. Not to mention a blue million themes and add-ons for all of these...

      Now... You were saying...?

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    5. Re:Fork the Core and Window Manager. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can already leave off the WM on Server 2012. Try to keep up.

  9. OK for me so far by BLToday · · Score: 2

    I've updated 3 machines of varying capability to the new version, seems OK. No show stopping bug.

    But my friend's older laptop (upgraded from Win7) slowed down so much we had to do a full reset which fixed the problem. We couldn't track down the problem besides maybe an in place upgrade from Win7 caused the issued. BTW, Windows 10 reset works pretty well. Process is similar to macOS full reset just takes about 90 minutes versus 50 minutes.

    1. Re:OK for me so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to do a reset too because of annoying hitches in the gitalong. Worked. But in the process it eliminated the ability to "go back" to the previous version since it was essentially a clean install. So if I finally get tired of fighting the sound issues (mainly caused by persistently high latency in DPC, ISRs, etc.) I will either have to restore a W7 image I stored (then restore backups of the data changed since the upgrade) or do a clean install of 7 (possibly easier, and gets me the latest driver and application software updates). "Reset your system" is not without consequences.

  10. You can opt out of notifications in Windows 10? by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

    That's CRAZY talk!

    1. Re:You can opt out of notifications in Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are obviously not aware of the Microsoft definition of "opt out". It is defined as "disable until the next update comes along, then reset to Microsoft preferred setting without informing the user, let alone asking consent. This until Microsoft decides to change the definition of opt-out again".

    2. Re:You can opt out of notifications in Windows 10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Disable" = Visually hide all signs that X is happening, but continue to do X anyway behind the scenes. Because the odds are about 98% that the user is an idiot who'll never know the difference anyway.

      Unless X = ads, in which case wait until the free upgrade offer expires and immediately remove the option to opt out.

  11. One bug annoys me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Only one bug annoys me on Win 10 Professional that I didn't see on earlier versions of the OS.

    The one that brings business to a standstill. Symptom is: huge update gets pulled down a tiny pipe preventing internet access followed by the OS randomly restarting the PC.

    1. Re:One bug annoys me ... by Megol · · Score: 0

      It is trivial to change what time of day when the system does an update, why not change that before complaining about imaginary bugs?

    2. Re:One bug annoys me ... by blackpaw · · Score: 1

      So setup a WSUS server

    3. Re:One bug annoys me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't fix the random thrashing of internet access while downloading.. The active hours only seems to prevent the installation not the download itself... I've had to resort to switching my wifi connections to metered so it doesn't download and then having to switch it back to update....

    4. Re:One bug annoys me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is as if the BITS service didn't actually work at all.

    5. Re:One bug annoys me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      windows 10 using every single bit per second your internet connection has, and then some, IS a bug (probably more like an undocumented 'feature' to ensure 'timely delivery of updates as fast as possible'), but it is NOT imaginary.

      if there's a win10 update going on anywhere on your lan, your internet is completely fucked if you don't have uber-speed fiber giving you faster speeds than the local update cdn node can deliver.

      it didn't used to be that way, but microsoft has gotten greedy as fuck in wanting to make sure your system gets all the updates, period.

      you basically have to rate limit each win10 client at your router to a fraction of your total available downstream bandwidth (so that way only the system that is pulling down updates get fucked over), and then also enable that peer-based update mechanism (local network only option, otherwise your upstream will get fucked over, too).

      but the better option is to tell microsoft to fuckoff wrt 10 and revert to 7 or 8 or use something non-microsoft.

    6. Re:One bug annoys me ... by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      Hard to do in a small businesses, much like the hassles of needing a domain to control updates.

      Microsoft has left small (5-10 chairs) businesses right in the lurch: not will to put up with the BS in home edition, and unable to justify the cost of Enterprise and a server (plus associated IT costs) to manage it properly.

      I think if your business is below a certain size then they need to offer a major discount on enterprise, along with a free copy of Windows Server to run WSUS and host the domain.

      Win10 Pro was supposed to fill this gap, but they have been removing features from it and crippling it to force people to Enterprise. It's shifty scummy behavior.

  12. So somehow Win10 update has completely fallen down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was thinking "gee, we're already talking about the next update and I haven't even gotten the Anniversary Update everyone's been talking about" then I see that that update was supposed to come out a week ago.

    According to winver I'm on 10586.420 and according to the metro Windows Update screen my computer is "up to date". Updates are set to install automatically (recommended) and I have "Give me updates for other Microsoft products" checked. I'm on ethernet, so the connection can't be set to metered to block the updates.

    Oh well, I wasn't exactly looking forward to having windows updates shoved down my throat anyway.

  13. Not interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not interested in Windows 10. Microsoft has enough money to keep Windows 7 (style) going as well as 10. You could call it "Windows Classic" or "Windows Boring" for all I care. Maybe "Windows Mind Your Own Business" or "Windows Tight Lips" or "Windows Quiet". You know those greedy fucks could do it easily.

  14. What about anniversary update? by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

    When will they start testing how to fix all the problems in that? I would love to re-install the anniversary update, but it broke my system. VPN software didn't work, HFS drive disappeared. I enjoyed the updates, but the breaks need fixing before you move on to the next version to break new things!

    1. Re:What about anniversary update? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When will they start testing how to fix all the problems in that? I would love to re-install the anniversary update, but it broke my system. VPN software didn't work, HFS drive disappeared. I enjoyed the updates, but the breaks need fixing before you move on to the next version to break new things!

      You should run Linux! Oh wait...

    2. Re:What about anniversary update? by Szeraax · · Score: 1

      Wife's work had Anyconnect VPN stop working and turns out they just needed to update the profile on the anyconnect server gateway to allow in an extra port or two. Now they are at least at able to access file shares on WinX. Too bad it took their IT like 2 weeks to finally figure it out.

    3. Re:What about anniversary update? by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      It took me a few hours to figure out I needed to roll back the update. Works as well as it did the first time!

  15. What's on the horizon. by Chas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1: All activity on your system will be logged down to the keystroke and sent off to law enforcement for eventual perusal.
    2: Windows will gradually being replacing all third-party apps with Microsoft products in the same field.
    3: All authentication will be moving over to strict degradation porn. To log into your system, you'll need to allow the system to snap a picture of you engaged in some form of depraved sexual act.
    4: Ads and popups and pop-unders will now no longer be browser-only "features". The OS will randomly pop them up, completely stealing focus away from whatever you're doing and won't release focus again until you've spent real money on whatever was advertised. And if Microsoft logs any legal complaints, to either cops or lawyers, they'll delete your whole system and brick the hardware.
    5: You will be required to tie a bank account and at least one credit card to WindowsPay. Otherwise you risk being randomly logged out at 15 second intervals...

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  16. Re:So somehow Win10 update has completely fallen d by TimSSG · · Score: 1

    I just did a manual update yesterday and I now have 1511 10586.545. I have old hardware, according to a site I read old hardware get the update last when doing auto updates. Tim S.

  17. So.... by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    still beta then?

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  18. But by rossdee · · Score: 0

    Who uses File Explorer anyway?

    I use Directory Opus (and have done sincethe late 80's)
    but there are a ton of good freeware file managers out there.

    and the next PC I buy will be running Windows 7

    1. Re:But by Fragnet · · Score: 1

      I'll be honest with you here. Directory Opus looks shit.

    2. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be honest with you here. Directory Opus looks shit.

      Does "looks shit" mean something good or something bad?

      It's like those wannabe rappers calling everything "dope". WTF does that mean?

  19. Oh yeah by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 0

    "Microsoft is in the early stages of making structural improvements ..."

    In other words, "adding more telemetry and ads..."

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  20. Update replaces it with XP & it finally works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would love to see Windows 10 upgrade to XP. There has literally been not a single improvement to a Windows OS since then.

  21. MS Windows Is a Mess by BrendaEM · · Score: 0

    Windows 10: They didn't even paint over all of the rust.

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  22. It's NOT Redstone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's "Deadstone"!!!

  23. how about EXT4 file system support to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not like you'll have to copy something proprietary or steal it from a company and settle out of court years later for it.

  24. Desktop PC... A terminal connected to a mainframe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yep, Old school. IOS and Android have over 2 billion users and functional stores to buy and sell software.

    Microsoft Windows was the way we used software and compute resources when we were tied to our desks. Times have moved on...

    it is like going to the funeral of the first drug dealer or pimp that you purchased product from....

  25. software windows microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just like windows 10. Still I'm using it. Thanks for this update.

  26. Re:Sorry ABMers, Morons & all negative comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long did that take you to type, AC, with all the bugs in your shitty Microsoft software? You must be some type of 'leet haxor to even be able to figure out how to finish that.

    "Bing?" Oh, my sides. You mean the "decision engine" that copies results from Google and spits them out? You're hilarious, dude.

  27. Re:Being against Islam is not racism by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Modded down because it's as off-topic as it gets, bonehead.

    "Off-topic" means "having nothing to do with the subject at hand". Around here, it's often regarded as an attempt to derail coherent discussion of the subject, as well.

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  28. Very Good ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 1% think that they can just fire all the "old white fathers" and replace them with some cheap indians. Even the CEO. Win10, Visual Studio after 2008 is now the results.

    Let this company and their greedy, nation-less owners burn themselves to death. This is the only way to educate them.

    Nutella is just a Cheapster CEO and he openly says so. He hates America and wants to make all the experienced guys unemployed.

    Burn !

  29. Solution: Linux or BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After cheapster Nutella has taken over Microsfot, you will see more of this cheapness. The 1% owners hate the White Old Engineer and replaced him by some indian cheapness.

    Just go for the alternatives. There are quite a few out there. A White Old Father will set the solution up for a reasonable price. And it will run 100% of time.

    Also, vote Trump, not Clinton, because she is all for fucking American corporations as they did it to HP and MS.

  30. NO WAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your reasonable suggestion goes against all the inbred greed of the 1%. Your only option is to go Mac, Linux or BSD. And RPI as a server behind the DSL Modem.

    Let MS crash and burn. Their owners deserve it.

  31. So ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rid yourself of it. Lots of alternatives out there. You could even build an RPI Laptop which runs for two days non-stop. Libreoffice is efficient enough to run on that HW.

    Boycott the JS abomination websites, then the RPI CPU is more than good enough.

    Also boycott the 1% owned cloud. Instead run your RPI server behind the DSL modem.

    Grow some balls and horns, SHEEPS !

    1. Re:So ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forced to use it at work.

      Rid myself of it at home many years ago.

  32. Bingo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I observed the same. Actually all the versions after XP only cost time (read: money) to learn how they have hidden something perfectly working under some "new" GUI permutation. No actual value delivered, but cost generated !
    Finally their Fucked Minds think that "Windows" should operate in a Single Screen (opposite of the Xerox Windows GUI principle) mode.

    Somebody must have put some really cheap fungi into the Redmond Water Supply System.

    I guess next will be an integration of an abacus with Windows NWO Edition.

  33. Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot Loser Phone OS - codename "windows phone".

    Face it, Linux has won. Your narcisstic car salesmanship is only liked by those you bribe into submission.

  34. rofl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The wrath of satya...

  35. Re:Sorry ABMers, Morons & all negative comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zune!

    Ha ha ha ha ha !!

  36. Re:Being against Islam is not racism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you sympathize with the Islamic dogs? I hope people know you for your ways. Islam and you are the enemies of everything good and worthwhile.

  37. Thanks for job security, Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We don't want to spend 45 person-hours at our company when you decide to roll out updates that take an hour and a half per machine to deploy.... And you say you're doing to do these three or four times a year. So I get to come in on a weekend and spend 8 overtime hours touching every machine in the building and updating them. (And before you say, "just schedule it in off hours," every machine here MUST work, EVERY Monday morning. Your last one broke four of our machines relying on legacy drivers for critical components. Sure, we could spend money on having backup machines available.... but who knows when Microsoft will change that up making it impossible to boot an unupdated machine? Probably will occur right after we sink the money in the new hardware.)

    So thanks for the extra money paying for my next vacation with your new system, and btw fuck your rent seeking asses very much!

    1. Re:Thanks for job security, Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mission critical business obviously cannot run on Windows. Replace by xBSD.

  38. Obligatory non-xkcd by Briareos · · Score: 1

    An offer you can't refuse...

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  39. Native Linux and bash on Windows 10? by bearvarine · · Score: 1

    Actually, I saw a demo recently of a true bash shell running natively on Windows 10. I also saw a demo of a full featured Linux OS embedded somehow into Windows 10, kind of like a humunculus. You could install any software from the Ubuntu Linux apt-get cloud via the bash shell. It was able to run any kind of X-based application including Chrome, Firefox, and Eclipse linux applications. Truly, it was pretty cool. I'd love to get rid of my Oracle VirtualBoxes and use Linux natively on Windows 10.