Woman Sues Sex Toy App For Secretly Capturing Sensitive Information (ctvnews.ca)
A woman in Chicago filed a class action lawsuit against the makers of a smartphone-enabled vibrator, alleging their devices "secretly collect and transmit 'highly sensitive' information." CTV News reports:
The lawsuit, which was filed earlier this month in an Illinois court, explains that to fully operate the device, users download the We-Connect app on a smartphone, allowing them and their partners remote control over the Bluetooth-equipped vibrator's settings... The suit alleges that unbeknownst to its customers, Standard Innovation designed the We-Connect app to collect and record intimate and sensitive data on use of the vibrator, including the date and time of each use as well as vibration settings...
It also alleges the usage data and the user's personal email address was transmitted to the company's servers in Canada. The statement of claim alleges the company's conduct demonstrates "a wholesale disregard" for consumer privacy rights and violated a number of state and federal laws.
Slashdot reader BarbaraHudson argues that "It kind of has to share that information if it's going to be remotely controlled by someone else." But the woman's lawsuit claims she wouldn't have bought the device if she'd known that while using it, the manufacturer "would monitor, collect and transmit her usage information."
It also alleges the usage data and the user's personal email address was transmitted to the company's servers in Canada. The statement of claim alleges the company's conduct demonstrates "a wholesale disregard" for consumer privacy rights and violated a number of state and federal laws.
Slashdot reader BarbaraHudson argues that "It kind of has to share that information if it's going to be remotely controlled by someone else." But the woman's lawsuit claims she wouldn't have bought the device if she'd known that while using it, the manufacturer "would monitor, collect and transmit her usage information."
So she's afraid of her vibrator setting being saved, but not afraid of national exposure via her lawsuit.
This is their web site legal.. which says they collect information.
I'm betting their apps have a similar eula but I couldn't locate them (they may only be available while installing the app). I checked the user manuals and the eula is not in the manuals.
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Any any case, this case will shake up the legal situation and set things vibrating!
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Fear? No. This is anger.
In the connected world, everybody that produces any software at all uses it to collect every bit of data they can get their grubby mitts on. Many people don't care, which is why it continues.
They will never stop out of politeness or respect. The only way to retain one's privacy is to fight for it, as this lady is doing.
Developers of applications that store or transmit data of this kind need to be held accountable for their practices, need to use strong encryption and should generally be treated like producers of medical devices that store sensitive information. I'd feel sorry for anyone to whom this is not obvious.
They saw her coming!
If that was the case, then at least something good had come out of this idiocy.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No. This is greed.
The old American dream was to work hard, climb the ladder, and one day you can be rich too.
When people started to realize that this isn't working anymore, they started the new American dream: Playing the lottery and trying to find ways to sue people who do have money as a new way to get rich.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
> Standard Innovation designed the We-Connect app to collect and record intimate and sensitive data on use of the vibrator, including the date and time of each use as well as vibration settings...
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> Slashdot reader BarbaraHudson argues that "It kind of has to share that information if it's going to be remotely controlled by someone else."
Does it ?
First of all, collecting and recording the information does not seem necessary for the app to work.
Then, to enable an external user control over the device, you just need to connect the two smartphones together. You do not necessarilly need the data to transit to third parties. You probably can route all the information over tor and never have a clear message given to the company or anyone else than the two involved party.
Or am I missing something?
(BTW, this device give a new meaning to Avenue Q's "The internet is for porn")
In the event of a traffic accident, they will demand the records from the server to see if the driver was having an orgasm at the time.
Have gnu, will travel.
is such a dick move.
The old American dream was to work hard, climb the ladder, and one day you can be rich too.######
I've heard this a million times, and I wonder how valid this view of the
past really is. People were just as corrupt 100 years ago as they are now,
only now it's much more difficult to hide because of the ease of getting
information now vs back then. It seems like there more
corruption these days because of the flow of information.
(The good old days were not good. In the US, you could be lynched
just because of your skin color, and the perps, who often included
the local sherrif, would get away scot free. This is just one example)
They will never stop out of politeness or respect
They will only stop when people stop buying devices that phone home, and it becomes clear that doing it is a death sentence in the marketplace, while companies that respect privacy are rewarded in the marketplace. Right now, we do that exactly the other way around, so it's no surprise that's what we get. We reward privacy violations and punish devices that are not "web-enabled".
Internet connected TV? No.
Internet connected vibrator? No.
Internet connected automobile? No.
Internet connected heart rate monitor? No.
Internet connected refrigerator? No.
The message from the buying public is that we will buy the shiny, no matter how privacy-hostile it is. We simply don't care! With that message being sent, there is no reason for vendors not to harvest every bit of day they possibly can from our devices.
You want to make a difference? Stop buying devices that phone home.
tele-dil-donics tele...
National exposure of the fact that you use a vibrator (like millions of people) versus every detail about your use (date/time, vibration settings, etc) being transmitted to and collected by a company, who may sell it to third parties.
Apples, oranges, etc.
She's doin' it at TEN! Ten guys, try to beat that.
It never worked. In a winner-takes-all society like the US, just working hard is never enough. Lots of people work hard, they don't get rich.
Good parents and luck, that's how you get rich in America.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
We've talked about this before. On its face, collecting information about settings changes, time of use, and duration of use are not inherently sensitive.
However, the issue (for me) is that it was later learned that these reports tie back to a username. Now, obviously a username is arguably non-PII by itself, but there are enough people putting in real information about themselves that it becomes a problem.
Is it worth a lawsuit? Or more accurately, is this an instance where popular opinion of a manufacturer's "should have known better" will override their own stated ToS/Privacy policies?
[DISCLAIMER: This post is a work of satire and should not be misconstrued as a holy text upon which to base a religion.]
The old American dream was to work hard, climb the ladder, and one day you can be rich too.
No, the American Dream was that if you work hard, you too can have a good life - have a family, own your own house and car, and retire. It was not to be 'rich', it was to be middle class - and anyone, no matter how low their origins, could do it.
No pair of communications devices "has to share that information".
Data passed between my wireless mouse and my PC hopefully isn't sent to Logitech or Dell.
Data passed between my phone and my bluetooth speaker hopefully isn't sent to Bose or Verizon.
This data is sensitive enough that it should not be shared.
It's only a matter of degree, and depending on the protocol used that allows the other person to control it over the internet, there's probably going to be server logs, same as any other internet thingee that involves communication between 2 parties via a server.
Check your web server log files. Date, time, your ip address, the url you accessed, and all the data in a GET request, they're all in there. If they're using a simple http GET, this is all normal.
This is a good way to keep someone from using it and then trying to return it as "unused." You really don't want to accept returns in such cases, or get an "unused" one..
After all, you don't know everywhere it's been, but your imagination can do a pretty good job of coming up with gross scenarios.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Babies put anything they can get their hands on into their mouth. Adults, on the other hand ...
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
"Apples, oranges, etc."
It must be oranges. The iDick is not on the market yet.
I know a SJW like you hates America, but that isn't what America is about. The American dream is not to get rich, but to have a good life. But you are right, working hard is not the key, the key is working SMART. The difference between low/middle/upper class isn't how hard you work. In fact, the lower classes work much harder than the upper ones.
Well, then maybe if it upsets you so much you should have reported it a month ago instead of bitching and moaning like you've got a dildo up your arse :-)
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Any nerd should know that if it's not under BSD, GPL, or another free license, and unless you can see the source code for everything, it's probably phoning home constantly. This is what Stallman and EFF warned us about with Treacherous Computing, and anyone who uses a so-called "smart" anything is a willing enabler. Dump these parasites now.
The problem is, unless you are in a position where that particular difficult to attain skillset is being used you're not likely to know it exists, both politically and geographically. Even if you do know it exists, people who are less intellectually capable than you may be given training by their companies. So it really all devolves down to 'right place right time'.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
This requires having a career that carries you through your life, which no longer exists. I know many people in the generation before me that went to work for one company, got on a defined benefit plan, worked there for their whole career and now have a great retirement. That won't be in the cards for many of my generation.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
"Fire in the hole!!!"
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
I love how someone who didn't grow up in the US somehow knows how to be successful here.
News flash: It's actually merit-based in large part. That's the great part about this country. Having good parents doesn't mean all that much when you enter the work force, unless you are very high up in the food chain. Most aren't, and even if you are - it's no guarantee of success. It's also easy to become something that the Romans used to call homines novi, a "new man". People with zero background placed in high positions.
Stop putting your European memories of class distinction atop the US. It just isn't true here. I could cite particular cases - the Harvard grad with the perfect credentials who was a failure as a CEO, or the nothing guy who ended up in leadership because he kicked massive ass. His family has shit background. But I don't have to for a US audience, because they know the same things from their own experiences.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
What you talkin' 'bout willis!?
The iBrator has been around for some time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
And what's your fucking claim to fame, Mr. Know It All?
You pull yourself up by your bootstraps or are you straight out of the suburban cul de sac? It's easy to buckle down and study hard when Mama and Dada wipe your ass until you're 25, but some don't have that opportunity and I guess it's their fault for being born to irresponsible parents?
Trying working two jobs, going to school full time and raising two siblings and see how far you get in life, but then again a self-made-man like yourself would have probably just let your sibs get put in foster care so they couldn't compete with you later on (Now That's What I Call Capitalism Vol. 4)
I just wish I could be there to see the look of despair on your face when (not if) your nest egg gets poached by the system you're currently jerking off.
I know a SJW like you hates America, but that isn't what America is about. The American dream is not to get rich, but to have a good life. But you are right, working hard is not the key, the key is working SMART. The difference between low/middle/upper class isn't how hard you work. In fact, the lower classes work much harder than the upper ones.
It's interesting that you define the "good life" in terms of economic prosperity and/or how hard one works towards that end.
I've personally been able to build connections from literally nothing and not knowing anybody in the industry I'm in at all, nor did I know somebody who knows somebody. Given how introverted I am, I'm sure other people can do the same.
Really? It's interesting you said I defined something I didn't. Some people do consider a "good life" to be relative economic prosperity. The superior Euro type would scoff that that, but they have been living in the lap of luxury for decades. Personally a "good life" to me is to have enough money as I need to live and travel and to do things that I enjoy and help others.
I apologize if my point was unclear. Please let me clarify:
You had written:
The fact that you transitioned from talking about "the good life" to talking about "low/middle/upper class", makes me think that you were implicitly equating living the "good life" with attaining membership in one of those [economic] classes. That was my main point.
But I see also that I thought you were directly equating one's level of effort with which economic class one attains. I realize now that that was not your point at all. My apologies.
"Sensitive"? Seriously? The jokes just write themselves.
Radio remote controls have fairly limited ranges when compared to cell networks.
How do you think two arbitrary mobile machines connect to each other on the internet (not just locally)? To connect two machines via the internet, you need to have known IP addresses to talk to, and these phones and devices can't act as internet servers, for a variety of technical reasons, listening for these connections. Anytime you communicate with anyone else in an apparent "peer to peer" fashion using smartphone apps, some central authority is needed to at least make the initial connection.
The problem is that these companies often can't resist collecting all sorts of personal information, and don't know how to properly secure the data and communications channel (security is hard), and so it ultimately ends up as a privacy nightmare. IoT is a security disaster, but the public still hasn't caught on. There are going to be many cases such as this one over the next few years.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
The difference probably being that the Harvard grad who is a dud would not even have gotten the chance to be a CEO if he hadn't been a Harvard grad.
And yes, I would love to hear your cases, because I currently cannot think of one where some poor idiot with community college education managed to become the CEO of some multinational corporation because someone noticed him being so incredibly awesome working the assembly line night shift.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
He's great at that. But you'll have a much bigger harvest if you look at the people he pissed off and people who are pissed at him, if you want to see self styled victims, there is far from a shortage of that right now.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Internet connected TV? No.
Internet connected vibrator? No.
Internet connected automobile? No.
Internet connected heart rate monitor? No.
Internet connected refrigerator? No.
So you have recently bought a non-internet connected vibrator and a non-internet-connected heart rate monitor from a company that doesn't make internet enabled ones? If not, you're not punishing these companies or voting with your wallet by rewarding the competitors.
As for TVs, I don't think you any longer can find a company that doesn't make internet enabled TVs.
No. Being moderately well-off has usually been based on merit...with some race thrown in. Being rich has *almost* always been based on rich parents and good social connections. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
The "difficult-to-attain skillset" is usually just a way to become well-off rather than rich. Exceptions are where using or developing the skill-set is beset with dangers. E.g., some con-men become rich, but most either end up in jail or die broke.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
This is a good way to keep someone from using it and then trying to return it as "unused."
Huh? Standard practice forever on these is that once it leaves the store you aren't returning it. All sales final. Period.
Sorry, but that's a part of the rush into the Singularity. Techno-optimists can paint it as an entirely rosy scenario, but they're only looking at one side of the coin as it flips in the air. (Actually there's a lot more than two ways that it could turn out.)
If I thought we had or could get sane governments, I'd be utterly opposed to the Singularity as too dangerous. But we've already been within 30 seconds of nuclear war, the military is not working on hypersonic missiles, and if we don't hit the Singularity first, I expect everyone to end up dead at the same time. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee that the Singularity won't be just as bad...but it *might* be everything people have hoped for.
One result of this plunge into the Singularity, however, is that jobs that take a long time and a lot of effort to acquire the skills to perform properly are likely to be automated away just as you are polishing your skills. And I see no way to predict what jobs won't be automated. Laughing at current implementations of, say, film editor doesn't mean you are far-sighted, it means the current implementations need to be significantly improved...but that's happening every day.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
A remote control doesn't need fucking logs, and it certainly doesn't need to phone home with them.
No. EULAs are contracts of adhesion, and are considerably less valid that contracts that have been theoretically negotiated.
OTOH, IANAL. Check with a lawyer in your local jurisdiction before believing this. But almost everywhere you can't presume that just because something exists, even in a negotiated contract, that it will be enforceable. And contracts of adhesion are considerably weaker.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Contracting may be an option, but the places in North America where you can have enough jobs to support you on it have shrunk big time. So yes you can contract, but then you don't have a choice of where to live. And you had better be healthy too, and preferably not have a family. And the hours.. when I was contracting, I was expected to work full time and on top of that there was all kinds of paperwork to do; and that was a dedicated gig. I didn't need to take people out and network in order to keep those jobs.
If there is a place n the world where you can have a relatively inexpensive house and general cost of living, no long commute so you can spend it with kids, and yet have a plethora of gigs to choose from so there is no worry of what the next one is I would like to know where that is.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
> The good old days were not good. In the US, you could be lynched just
> because of your skin color, and the perps, which often included the
> local sheriff, would get away scot free. This is just one example out of scores.
In 2015 or 2016...
s/lynched/killed during a traffic stop/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/po...
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
In the connected world, everybody that produces any software at all uses it to collect every bit of data they can get their grubby mitts on.
Ask yourself why. This company isn't selling on data for advertising revenue, they are selling it purely to improve the product. If this leads to creating the perfect sex toy then keep on collecting.
Not all data collection can be lumped into the same category.
Women used cucumbers, and they didn't have to worry about sending private information to anyone...besides the neighbors, if they forgot to close the windows first.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
The only way to retain one's privacy is to fight for it, as this lady is doing.
Or like - not use a vibrator that's connected to the internet.
The internet is not secure - period.
If you are going jam something up your parts that is connected to the internet, as a way of masturbating while aided by someone on the other end of the internet - well, read the previous sentence.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
In the connected world, everybody that produces any software at all uses it to collect every bit of data they can get their grubby mitts on.
Ask yourself why. This company isn't selling on data for advertising revenue, they are selling it purely to improve the product. If this leads to creating the perfect sex toy then keep on collecting.
Not all data collection can be lumped into the same category.
I hope they televise the trial, especially the part where she has to do a personal demonstration of how the internet dingus works.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Selling your soul will get you there in no time; if you're prepared to step over dead bodies for profit, the sky is the limit.
The Internet of Things was my dreams ever since I got on the internet in the late 90s. I dreamed of the possibility to connect everything with open protocols and giving users amazing options to control their electronic gear.
Finally, the Internet of Things came and it's a mess of proprietary protocols where all devices are not connected with each other, but with centralized databases of the manufacturers. Fail!
Reasons for this failure:
- IPv4 address shortage and NAT (intermediate server needed)
- Silicon Valley greed (big data=big $$$ and everyone trying to get monopoly on their proprietary shit)
- user ignorance (would not buy if knowing how it works)
We, consumers, have to demand products that puts the user in control, not the company you bought it from.
Ha, oh man, 2 gets you a peasant's six-figure income. You know nothing of wealth. You see that you have more money than your immediate vicinity and grossly extrapolate.
Your sloth line is a joke. Rabble? Please. By definition you will only ever see a tiny number of people with elite skillsets. Every decade people are playing catch up and hyperspecializing into the flavor of the month and fighting over the shrinking number of musical chairs for the paycheck club.
And it's just worse at the bottom. I hope I don't live long enough to see the extinction of physical labor. It won't be pretty when Prolekistan has nothing to export. You do know what happens to countries with no exports, right?
Multicast is more appropriate for this type of data.
Time to dust off RFC1112.
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
"Standard practice" does not negate your rights under consumer protection laws, assuming you live in a civilised jurisdiction which has them. (To be fair, providing a refund without a return is a legal option for the vendor.)
sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
You'd think with multiple people involved in developing something like this that at least one person would spot the obvious impending shitstorm if it was found out they were recording this data.
By the time you enter the workforce it's way too late for most people.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I bet them two siblings just fell out of the sky.
Why not be responsible and first get a solid job or better even a career, before committing to kids.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
And to demonstrate that being born in the US does not really qualify you to judge social mobility in the states I will use the following quote: Of the eight countries studiedâ"Canada, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Germany, the UK and the USA, the USA had both the highest economic inequality and lowest economic mobility. Taken from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... Maybe dont make arguments that can be debunked in the most basic google searches.
I've purchased two devices (well, two each elf or the wife and my self). I 'justified' by saying I was going to look at the protocols they use. One of the devices uses cert pinning but I didn't get more time to look at it (switched jobs, so I've been busy). Both vendors are very,very upfront about how much data they collect. I just looked and I haven't put them on this phone yet. But they are most certainly not hiding that they collect data. That would be like thinking Chaterbate wasn't watching who you tip, how much you tip and what your kinks are.
OK, you're right, in the end, it matters more who you know than what you know.
But don't tell me going to the "right" college doesn't help there.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Please read: https://www.brookings.edu/wp-c...
It's called the American dream because it has never, ever been reality.
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
Consider this - if the labour market was actually a *free* market then the supply for any job would be inversely proportional to how pleasant the job is - and sewage workers would be the best paid people in the country - because nobody would wade through shit every day for less than a billionaire's lifestyle at night.
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
So all the people born with talent (musicians, athletes, singers, actors, etc.) get rich because of parents and social connections?
There are plenty of talented people who are rich who came from extreme poverty. And let's not even start with inventors!
Sure, privacy...
Is this toy any good? I mean like in "Xmas present for the SO".
Appologies to RMS.
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
Well, how is she expected to collect money for damages if she just stays quiet?
Litigation destroys society.
Socialism tinted glasses: "well I work as hard as X!! Why I no rich like them!!!"...
Its the same mentality as people wanting to give trophies to everyone for putting in the same amount of effort rather than giving trophies to the people that play the sport well and win points.
[Sarcasm]Yes, and should still give trophies to those who cheat along the way to win points (and referees either don't see or are bribed) because they are supposed to "play well" too![/Sarcasm] :p
I don't really like to use analogy of sports on life/economic events. Even though they are quite similar in a big picture, there are too many differences when you examine them a lot closer...
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Well...err.....how else would one define "Good Life??"
I mean, a good life is providing for yourself and family, including but not limited to: safe comfortable shelter, food, creature comforts of life and you don't do that without funds.
How do you measure a 'good life'??
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
We also have to figure it is almost impossible to get ahead now. Work hard for 10 years at a company and one day they simply decide you are to expensive, never mind the fact that the reason you are expensive was that you worked hard and had earned a number of pay increases. Find a new job, rinse, repeat. But yes, 100 years ago it was worse, the problem is we are headed back in that direction now.
I like how you question the validity of the consensus view of the past, then immediately you assertively declare how the past was, without any question to the validity of your personal view of the past.
Inconsistent much?
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
"The glass ceiling is in you. The glass ceiling is conscience."
—Jacob Holtzbrinck, The Keys to the Planet
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
I want to design an IoT Toilet that uploads all the information of a download and shares it on social media.
Today Oswald took a 2lb dump in the iToilet. See attached photos.
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"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Are you kidding. Most Americans are living the American dream and most American's are rich.
The problem is that many have changed the definition of rich. The idea of keeping up with the Jones is real, you just don't fully understand the extent of it and that most poeple are guilty of it even if we think we aren't.
In the middle ages, if a person owned land and had a livable building on it, and could self-sustain them and their family (at least two meals a day even if meager at time) from the land, that person was rich. They were probably a Lord, even if they couldn't afford servants.
Now, we have people who own land, a home, eat two or three meals every day, have their kids going to school, have electricity, one used car, refrigerators, hot water heaters, warm showers, soft beds, plenty of blankets, a couple TVs, a cable TV package. But they have four kids in only two bedrooms (can you believe they are sharing a room) and the household makes less than 50k a year. They can't get their kids phones. Some say that family is in poverty, or that family is incorrectly termed "lower middle class".
If you compare that family to the rest of the word, the way the other 7 billion people live, most in 3rd world countries, then that family isn't just rich; they are loaded. They have way more than they need. That family isn't just seeking the american dream, they have found it!
You see, over time "nice-to-haves" such as a car, a phone of any type, computers, tablets, game consoles, expensive diets, perfect grass in the yard, and many other things have slowly become so ubiquitous that you forgot that only the top 10% of the
Seems that a response to social media may apply: Put the toy down and get out and MEET PEOPLE FACE TO FACE!
You may find the real thing more satisfying!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
"Standard practice" does not negate your rights under consumer protection laws, assuming you live in a civilised jurisdiction which has them.
You are right of course that warranties etc still apply; but those generally only require an exchange. (And the returned unit is tossed in the trash.) And some places do have a satisfaction gauranteed where they'll give you store credit, or even money back if you aren't happy -- but even then the unwanted/returned stuff is never resold.
Assuming you live in a civilised jurisdiction with consomer protection laws. ;)
Because I'm pretty sure those consumer protection laws are part of what forbid the resale of used sex toys in the first place; along with underwear; open medicine; open food etc...
Even her phone couldn't satisfy her, so she is sewing.
The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck, it will be known as the Microsoft Vaccuum Cleaner!
So she's afraid of her vibrator setting being saved, but not afraid of national exposure via her lawsuit.
Hello, Barbara Streisand.
You may want to look up what she looks like before making a statement like that.
Unless you're into that kind of thing*
* I haven't looked myself but let's face it there's always someone into any kind of thing :-)
You are right of course that warranties etc still apply; but those generally only require an exchange.
It depends on the jurisdiction. If the product is not fit for the purpose for which it was sold, or the purchaser was influenced by false or misleading advertising, then the purchaser is entitled to a refund AND reimbursement of any reasonably-incurred costs.
Assuming, as always, you live in a civilised jurisdiction with sensible consumer protection laws.
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You may want to look up what she looks like before making a statement like that.
Unless you're into that kind of thing*
* I haven't looked myself but let's face it there's always someone into any kind of thing :-)
I'm envisioning a sort of scene like in an early Simpson's episode dealing with shock shock aversion therapy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Except today, they'd be using apps on a smartphone.
Anyhow, this woman is Streisanding the bejabbers out of her situation.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.