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Vladimir Putin Is Replacing Microsoft Programs With Domestic Software (bloomberg.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: Moscow city will replace Microsoft Corp. programs with domestic software on thousands of computers in answer to President Vladimir Putin's call for Russia's authorities to reduce dependence on foreign technology amid tensions with the U.S. and Europe. The city will initially replace Microsoft's Exchange Server and Outlook on 6,000 computers with an e-mail system installed by state-run carrier Rostelecom PJSC, Artem Yermolaev, head of information technology for Moscow, told reporters Tuesday. Moscow may expand deployment of the new software, developed by Russia's New Cloud Technologies, to as many as 600,000 computers and servers, and may also consider replacing Windows and Office, Yermolaev said. Putin is urging state entities and local companies to go domestic amid concerns over security and reliability after U.S. firms shut down paid services in Crimea following Russia's 2014 annexation. The plan poses a challenge to the likes of Microsoft, SAP SE and Oracle Corp. in the country's $3 billion software market. Adding to pressure, Putin's internet czar German Klimenko wants to raise taxes on U.S. technology companies to help Russian competitors such as Yandex NV and Mail.ru Group Ltd.
can unintentionally do the right things: kick Microsoft's, SAP's et al.'s ass.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
...domestic software replaces YOU, mr. Nadella ?!?
They're going to lose the revenue from both of the Office licenses used by the Russian government...
Once the average Russian gets tired of their homegrown software crapping out on them they'll be begging for their Windows 98 workstations back.
Let it be called KremLinux and all is forgiven!
Trans-Pacific Partnership will hurt them then as MS will make them pay per system for some licenses or say you must by a site licenses to use the few windows systems / vm for the stuff that does not run on your os.
The only surprise here is that Moscow was using Microsoft software at all. That sounds insane.
All in one, just great!
Now he is accused in uninstalling windows and installing Linux?
Let me foresee what will happen... Putin will replace Microsoft programs with ripped off open-source software with minor UI and major back-doors updates;
Then, with great patriotic pride, will pronounce the motherland's major step towards cleansing itself from western spying and corruption.
themselves,
Would you feel comfortable if the White House, Wallstreet, DOD, DOJ, Police, Universities and Congress ran a complete Chinese software stack? Chinese routers, OS, Firewalls, Office, Mail, antivirus, etc etc.?
Why are other peoples sig's always more witty ???
Cites reason as: battery
Microsoft probably works with every government they sell their software into as far as spying on their citizens etc. (it only makes business sense since these guys control market access and Microsoft has never been a company to quibble over morals) - so I'm sure Microsoft and Mr. Putin's Russia were great partners up till now.
Now Putin may be wary that Microsoft gives preferential treatment to the NSA (since we know they worked closely with them before thanks to Snowden) etc. or he may just be doing this for domestic consumption (he appears to do alot of this) since their economy is in a tailspin.
This is called investing in your country and people. America, its government, and its corporations should take note.
It makes perfect sense to remove the same systems you target in other countries from your own server farms and run proprietary systems that are less widely known and understood.
I am not interested in articles about life extension advancements.
I mean, really.
Russia isn't part of the TPP. Wikipedia has a country list, btw - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
What if they ran on a set of hardware manufactured in China? That would be even worse!
So clearly he sees software a point of national security vulnerability. Now what can we infer about his polices on offensive cyberwarfare?
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All countries should do this. Use open standards to exchange information with other countries/businesses and develop their own software. Having local operating systems/programs helps expand local computing knowledge and lessens the likelihood of data theft via back doors etc.
As an added benefit people would be forced to start exchanging data in open formats or their partners/customers simply won't be able to read the data.
I's a healthy idea.
The routers and firewalls already are (but you knew that). The software is only a matter of time...
Er... they already do ! Where are all the chips/components manufactured again ?
Hello, my name is Vladimir Putin. You may have seen my face, usually on the evening news, but not to worry; most of what you hear is true. Especially from that Snowden. I was shocked when I found out that your government does a lot of --how you say it, "dirty work" or "dirty laundry"? -- without asking for any of our help in these matters; your government firmly believes they are experts in these matters. Personally I have this to say: In Soviet Russia, Snowden is welcome to stay and ski. And here in Soviet Russia we tell Clippy to take a fucking hike, back to Redmond on that Microsoft horse it rode in on. Would you believe I asked to be their spokesman? Can you hear me now?
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They've tried it over: https://linux.slashdot.org/sto...
and over: https://linux.slashdot.org/sto...
and over again: https://linux.slashdot.org/sto...
and failed: https://linux.slashdot.org/sto...
and failed again: https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
What's different about this time around?
I wonder where the servers will be housed?
Would you feel comfortable if the White House, Wallstreet, DOD, DOJ, Police, Universities and Congress ran a complete Chinese software stack? Chinese routers, OS, Firewalls, Office, Mail, antivirus, etc etc.?
In the U.S., the software is the *ONLY* thing not made in China.
Come on Putin, as long as we're rebuilding the Soviet Union, bring ternary computing back for a second go-round!
Just saying... reinventing the wheel is hard and bug-prone.
In Russia, we wipe with TPP
The Russians are using their local talent to enter the software field. Recent articles describe Russian programming talent as second best to only China. Snowden's revelations largest affect seems to be economic. The economic sanctions imposed on Russia seem to unintended consequences that adversely affect American companies but sanctions often do. If you don't know who Noodlman is look it up.
Russia has domestic router manufactures
Extremely concerned about nationalist cyber-security = Major cyber-warfare participant. It is especially telling that it has started with emails. It substantiates the three-letter agencies' report that Russia is at the heart of major email hacks in this country. Putin is gearing up militarily, folks. Those who want us to backdoor our technology, similar to revealing our troop positions, are asking us to be fatally unprepared for this theater of operations. Israel and China are also major, and enthusiastic, players. This is an issue of national security. We'd better read the tea leaves and have a plan.
So the end of the communism did not end the shortage of toilet paper?
For our non-Soviet friends: TP was in notorious short supply during the final days of the communist rule, which led to a lot of amusing anecdotes and jokes like:
Party Speaker: Comrades! In 5 years, everyone will have a car! ... the toilet paper?
Listener: And when are we going to get toilet paper?
PS: And comrades! In 10 years, everyone will have his own little house!
L: But
PS (outraged): KISS MY ASS! (literally: lick me in the asshole)
L: As usual. For themselves, the party has a solution, but for us...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
US software can be (if not already) backdoor for US intel. Since US and Russia at arms-wrestling, it is wiser to block these holes.
Would US gov buy encryption software from Russia?
Remember when all pcs in kremlin were replaced with electric typewriters? or when Merkil iPhone was being tapped during 2008 crisis?
Wtih dwindling foreign currency reserves they need hard currency for military and luxury sector.
3B$ is a serious money.
So, I think a lesson must be taught to Russia:
That interfering with the voting processes of a democracy is close to a declaration of war. (and no Mr. Trump I don't think, and neither do the various three letter agencies, think that the hacking of the DNC and voting machines was done by a 400 lb. woman sitting alone).
I am hoping that the tens of billions of dollars spent yearly on the NSA and it's being the largest supercomputer and employer of mathematicians in the world hasn't been to waste. I'm hoping that the fact that Americans (or their close allies) having INVENTED and OWNING most of the basic technologies that run our technological world (the internet, Microsoft OS, Mac OS, Android, iOS, Facebook, Google, Twitter, SAP, Amazon, Cisco, Intel, AMD, ARM, MS Office, Exchange, telephone switching networks. trans-oceanic cable companies) gives the American security agencies an incredible advantage when it comes to planting backdoors/exploiting vulnerabilities that other nations don't have. That's not to mention American establishment (and control?) of some of the key financial networks which govern them movement of money around the world.
So I'm hoping that in no uncertain terms the U.S. is sending/has sent a clear warning to Putin and his barbaric regime. Perhaps some of his overseas banking account just "disappears". Perhaps some of his most intimate e-mails (or even recorded telephone calls) are sent to his (few remaining) opponents.
Otherwise I'll begin to think that the U.S.is just a overpaid, bloated, toothless cyber-tiger. Unfortunately, the only way us average citizens will probably ever know is if the Russian attacks cease. Then we'll know they got the message.
I hope we send it.
There is a chance that some other countries will mandate forced switch to Linux based operating systems (some already have quasi-required to do so, such as Bulgaria).
This will require SAP, Oracle and others to have adequate client software that does operate in Linux.
We have heard this argument that it better to have one OS, but Apple OS demonstrated that competition is indeed valuable. Similiar argument could be applied to Android/iOS.
While Putin is who we know he is, in the long term, government subsidized Linux might be the best thing that happened. Some people think that government should be in healthcare, using that logic government can be subsidizing open source software.
I hope that they will do it in English, not a Russian Cyrillic masterpiece
Why not invade Redmond? It seems customary practice in Russia to take what you want by force.
I'm sure some jerk could argue that Alaska was once Russian. That Washington isn't hat far away from Alaska. That Russia never sold Washington to the US. And that therefore...
What a bunch of idiots. Regardless of the technology (I don't particularly like MS') you should know that coming up with an operating system, a desktop and usable applications is not an easy task. What's the Russian version be like? A ripoff of ?
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
From Tzar to Tech Support. Sounds like he'll be busy. On the bright side, hopfully the office dress code will require a shirt.
They'll replace all their Office software with... spiral bound notepads and pencils.
Keep It Simple, Stupid.
For the slow of understanding: Irony Alert.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
The GPL allows you to create modified version of the program without releasing the source, so long as you don't distribute. If they keep all the software inside the Russian government, they haven't distributed. So I don't think this can be called a rip-off.
> In Russia, we wipe with TPP
I thought most other nations used WIPO*.
* World Imaginary Property Organization
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Shouldn't that be "Internet tsar"???
Came for best linux, was not disapointed.
After all, the glorious peoples' republic invented Linux and will gladly share it with their brothers in world Socialism.
It seems only fair to me. Since Linux is named after Linus, the Russian version should be named after Putin.
Not to use backdoored software.
Politics aside, if Russia could come up with a cloud system that is usable across their government, and it becomes stable, it just might be something other companies might hop onto. Especially with things like AD and Exchange, which are pretty much critical to business function these days. If they make a directory system that can scale like AD, they might be onto something.
Each process will have standard putin and standard putout. You can redirect the latter to /dev/siberia if you do not want to see it (ever again).
Really? Go criticize EU governments by starting a political party. Gee, no problems doing that.
He's a Nazi, you insensitive clod! He's prohibited by law from starting a political party in much of Europe!
Will the Russian OS be supported on Steam?
That's how corrupt governments work
In the U.S., the software is the *ONLY* thing not made in China.
That's because it is made in India.
The Russian government should develop their own distro and should call Vladimix.
Joke aside, it makes sense that that Russian government would want to, and should, switch away from Microsoft Windows; ensuring one's data security is important.
Bearded Dragon
Damn, someone please do this. make LFS, link /dev/null to /dev/siberia in your build environment and s/null/siberia/g on every package. PLEASE. I know there are nutjobs among you good folk who are crazy enough to do this.
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Except that Linus is the first name, while Putin is the family name. So it should be more like Vlad the Compiler.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
To be fair, in my 30 coding career, some of the top programmers I've ever studied and worked with were Russian. Their skill was just vastly, disproportionately better than any other peers and colleagues. No idea why. I'd actually look forward to Russian made software! Except for all the pesky back doors.
https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
Sounds a bit like my home stdio.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
....oh..wait...darn...they are in...Redmond, WA!
4wdloop
According to that naming convention, shouldn't it really be Putux?
Or Putix?
From a hardware perspective (which can easily hide/mask mal intent) almost all of the hardware we purchase is difficult to trust. Add in the firmware added by the NSA for things like phones etc, and the saying only trust a source if you see the code. The same applies for hardware. I wish we could have open source hardware in more abundance.
That's exactly what he should be doing, just as everybody in the United States should start using McAfee Antivirus, and dumping Kaspersky.
I wonder if this means Venezuela will collapse soon from the lack of TP there?
Windows Source Code given to Russia - they just rebranded it. After all, MSFT can't exactly sue the govt there. Govts have bullets and judges.
I had plans to travel to Russia - ancestors came from there. Didn't get there before they made that crazy law about having keys to all decryption. Can't go now. Just can't.
Putin is a protectionist ...
Trump is a protectionist ...
Clinton is a protectionist ...
People! What is going on?? Why do we have to pay more for locally created products? That's a large part of why we overthrew the British government in the first place.
can unintentionally do the right things: kick Microsoft's, SAP's et al.'s ass.
While it's a good first step, Russia should do the world a service on the OS front by backing efforts to make ReactOS a full fledged OS. Have 2 flavors - a win64 version that's fully compatible w/ Windows 7, and a win32 version that's fully compatible w/ XP. Make sure that Classic Shell runs on it, or better still, make it a part of the shell so that people can pick whichever UI they wanna work in.
Uh, Russia hasn't been Communist now in some 25 years. Expansionist, maybe, but certainly not Communist
I could see Russia, but why would China, Iran or any Islamic entity want Trump to win? China would stand to lose big if they can no longer sell to the US, and if Trump follows through on his extreme vetting moves to stop hostile Muslims from coming into the US, ISIS and AQ have no reason to rejoice either. The last 3 have probably just said it hoping to apply reverse psychology on the US voters
This is actually not true. Putin has said that he likes Trump.
Obviously you are a checkers player not a chess player. Does an "endorsement" by Putin hurt or help a US Presidential candidate? He is **helping** Hillary by framing Trump as a friend of his, or the person he desires to be in the White House.
He didn't say, but it has been implied by experts that it is because Putin thinks that Trump is a foreign state moron that he can control much easier than Clinton.
Also obvious is that you have not been paying attention. Trump is inexperienced, has a poor grasp of things, and is therefore **unpredictable**. Unpredictable is hard to deal with, can be dangerous. Hillary is far more of a known and far more predictable, therefore far easier to outplay as has been done repeatedly in the past. Trump could easily do something incredibly stupid that harms both sides. Trump stupidity is not necessary a win for Russia, it is a threat to Russia and Russian interests as well.
How do you know Putin didn't say that he likes Trump in an effort to get more Americans to vote for Hillary? Americans aren't exactly known for being big fans of Russia or Putin.
I don't 'know' what Putin is thinking, but I am also not wearing a tinfoil hat, ...
Then take off whatever is constricting the blood flow to your brain and apply logic.
(1) Putin disliked heavily by US voters.
(2) Putin communicates that Trump is a friend, that he has a desire to see Trump win.
What does logic tell you is the result?
... and I am also thinking that American voters in general aren't stupid, and I think that Putin knows that, too.
Again, apply logic. Trump won the Republican primary to everyone's very great surprise. To everyone's even greater surprise it is not clear that Hillary is going to beat him according to the polls. Trump is turning out to be competitive so far, much to everyone's surprise, again. He is finding a lot of support outside of the far right fringe that got him the nomination.
So your evidence for American voters not being that stupid is?
And, as I think myself that Trump is a moron, also in foreign policy, and that Putin would think it is better for him to have Trump in the hot seat than Clinton, I believe it to be true.
Using the logic of a checkers player not a chess player. The most dangerous situation is when a highly unstable and unpredictable person is in the foreign policy game. Foreign policy is not a zero sum game, one side's loss is the other sides's win, **both** sides can lose. Trump is dangerous to Russian and Russian foreign policy. Trump through stupidity can easy f' something up in a way that harms both the US and Russia. Unlike Clinton who is well known, well understood, predictable, and the Russians imminently able to outplay her. As she has been outplayed before, repeatedly.
plays in to this. Very curious indeed.
"Moscowâ(TM)s government has already switched Cisco Systems Inc. technology for city surveillance cameras to local software"
Leaks also cover the CIA intercept of Cisco gear en route to places by NSA for spyware installation.
This seems to be about national security more than the money despite their claim.
I wouldn't trust anything coming out of any country Putin and his have significant influence. I imagine his cronies coming into a company and saying "do this or we'll kill your friends and family and then come back for you last" Old style KGB. Lots of folks claiming that's ignorant, but, unfortunately it's probably true.
The talent is definitely there to make this work, the only question is if there will be enough cloud cover to keep powerful non-expert's... wonderful ideas out of the kitchen.
In the U.S., the software is the *ONLY* thing not made in China.
That's because it is made in India.
If only somebody (a presidential candidate?) would do something about that.
And these countries/entities are all on the short list of future wars.
Trump has not yet launched a war, which isn't the same as saying that he won't, just that he hasn't.
If you research central banking and the monetary system, everything will make more sense.
"...in Crimea following Russia's 2014 annexation". That's a false statement. After the western backed fascist coup overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, the people of Crimea, (who are Russian speakers), were told that they would no longer be able to use their language in any official business. 97% of them voted to secede from Ukraine and join Russia. That's democracy in action.
The US started doing that years ago. Tables, ipad, phones, in fact almost nothing runs windows in the US anymore. Just some desktops. Even they are moving to the cloud. Won't need microsoft windows much longer.