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CIA 'Siren Servers' Can Predict Social Uprisings Several Days Before They Happen (sociable.co)
Through a combination of machine learning and deep learning, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is using powerful supercomputers, dubbed "Siren Servers" by computer philosophy writer Jaron Lanier, to predict social unrest days before it happens. The Sociable reports: CIA Deputy Director for Digital Innovation Andrew Hallman announced that the agency has beefed-up its "anticipatory intelligence" through the use of deep learning and machine learning servers that can process an incredible amount of data. "We have, in some instances, been able to improve our forecast to the point of being able to anticipate the development of social unrest and societal instability some I think as near as three to five days out," said Hallman on Tuesday at the Federal Tech event, Fedstival. The CIA deputy director said that it was "much harder to convey confidence for the policymaker who may make an important decision from advanced analytics with deep learning algorithms." Now that the CIA claims to be able to predict social unrest days in advance, there are some interesting theoretical possibilities that can come of this. One is that the CIA's siren servers will become so efficient that they will predict all social uprising and will be able to prevent it. If they are successful in doing that, there would be no need for the CIA as their technology could predict and prevent any societal upheavals, and the agency would be obsolete. Another potential outcome would be that the CIA could use the data and not tell anyone, just like the finance sector did, and then make calculated decisions on whether or not to intervene in any socially distressing situation.
They can't predict shit. Not social unrest, not the weather, and not Pokemon Go.
It's easy to predict things you are the cause of.
Assumes that you can -- in fact -- rapidly prevent societal upheavals with anything but force, which still leaves the root cause unresolved.
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
If they are successful in doing that, there would be no need for the CIA as their technology could predict and prevent any societal upheavals...
The authors are utterly naive if they think that the CIA's primary role is intelligence gathering, or that they even care overly much about quelling "societal upheavals". The spooks are at least as much about manipulating situations and people, and about spreading disinformation, (not to mention ensuring the Agency's continued existence), as they are about preventing any grief except their own. "Anticipatory Intelligence" is just a tool that allows them to carry on a faster, more efficient, more effective, more lucrative version of 'business as usual'.
I'd be very interested to hear Edward Snowden weigh in on this.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
What if the 'social upheaval' is justified? What if it is technically allowed by the 1st amendment? What if they tell the president that riots are due to start in xyz town and move in the National Guard, even though those riots are due to true injustice that needs to be addressed?
Can the government stop speech before it happens? What does that leave for the already shattered remnants of democracy?
Silence is a state of mime.
Asimoz first wrote about in Foundation close to 50 years ago. Perhaps some should read it. it's still applicable.
First they take 1984 and treat it like a user manual and now they are attempting to go full on minority report pre-crime? It's getting harder and harder to just laugh off that dystopian future.
honest question: how does this help general society? the way i see it, if people are so pissed off all the time that you can't tell if you are about to fubar things then you have no business being in any position of authority.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Sounds like our government is starting to fear the citizens and wants to know as early as possible
OR... it's the prudent and reasonable duty of every government to try and foresee any sort of societal trouble (at home and abroad).
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
I have an earthquake detector that works 100% of the time. Unfortunately, it's terrible at detecting days when there won't be an earthquake. Publish the quantitative data or STFU.
Sounds like somebody went data dredging and hasn't bothered to validate its predictive utility. My bet is the false alarm rate makes it equally useless to the DHS color-coded threat alert system.
Wouldn't it be totally god-like if they could predict uprisings but chose to do nothing to prevent them.
OR... it's the prudent and reasonable duty of every government to try and foresee any sort of societal trouble (at home and abroad).
Ok, but how much (percentage appreciated) do you believe TFS to be true?
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
Ok, but how much (percentage appreciated) do you believe TFS to be true?
TFS could be as far from reality as Lefists think that Donald Trump is (I think he's crazy like a fox in knowing how to push the buttons of disaffected voters -- which doesn't mean I support him or think that he's be anything but a disaster), or it could be 100% correct (ROFLMAO).
That still doesn't negate the fact that it's the prudent and reasonable duty of every government to try and foresee any sort of societal trouble (at home and abroad).
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
I smell vendor hype.
Table-ized A.I.
If a prediction prevents an event, the model of prediction fails and can no longer predict if it is self-learning.
NOV 8 will be flagged and marshal law may need to used to shut down the vote if they feel that Hillery will lose.
After analysis of the AI system it was found that the impressive predictive results were to a large extent explained by the input parameter: Police officer shoots unarmed man and the police tries to cover it up with lies.
Bert
Most "social uprisings" result from unforeseeable impulsive events (like a shooting). How are you going to predict those?
Maybe, just maybe, you could give a weather report like "chance of uprising is X%," but I would want to see some verification of these probabilities (are they better, for example, that just saying that riots are more probable in hot, humid weather than immediately after a snowstorm?).
Re "What exactly will the government prevent?"
The idea is to stop what happened in France with networking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"... in 1986, French university students coordinated a national strike using Minitel, demonstrating an early use of digital communication devices for participatory technopolitical ends."
Re 'It's difficult to stop mobs although the police can arrive in force before the mob swells in size and commitment."
The US view is to find and stop the charismatic or photogenic leadership before any mob can ever form.
Re "We've seen that sort of policing before, in Ireland."
The UK had total mastery of all communication within Ireland and a good overview of all political/funding/hardware support from the USA.
https://cryptome.org/jya/gchq-...
Once into any nations phone networks, prediction becomes easy.
The tracking of individuals would break into any cell structure and allow then protected informants to rise up the ranks.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Next time remember to log in, Donald. Then you'll get modded up for this for sure.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Don't you mean "RMN"?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Do you really think that the gov't could murder 60 million of its own citizens and there wouldn't be bad consequences?
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The human race has already developed cheap, portable supercomputers, many time more powerful than the CIA's 'supercomputer' that are expert at predicting social unrest. I have one in my possession right now.
By simply 'walking' around the target district and simply 'talking' to people, you'll get a pretty good sense of whether social unrest is going to happen.
Why does everything need to be done by remote control using computers?
make calculated decisions on whether or not to intervene in any socially distressing situation.
As long as it fit within the budget,
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
Apart from a drop in gun sales, nah. Good riddance.
It is a bit like the output from the Enigma machine, if you used the knowledge too much, the Germans would have worked out that they were being 'Hacked' and then start doing something else that could not be 'hacked' in the same way.
however, you can be better placed to pick up the pieces.
US citizens may be able to correct me, but I thought that the CIA was only allowed to snoop outside the US
- Agents sent to the field might be swayed by emotional or logical appeals.
- Remote surveillance means a permanent record and centralized control of both the data and the people using it.
- Social unrest is a threat to a police state and the status quo so "they" are doing everything to quell those things before they become popular enough to affect change.
- To paraphrase Alan Watts, all big institutions exist for themselves and their own continued existence and not the people they purport to serve. Remote everything plays to the military industrial complex's strengths. The machine intends to stay in power.
"We can predict the future" ...says the agency founded with the sole purpose of watching the Soviet Union, who watched it for nearly five decades, yet managed to entirely miss its collapse.
Sure.
-Styopa
Why did they buy 700 million bullets for DHS, all hollow point? Better look around a bit harder bud.
Jaron Lanier invented hipsters.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
We've got to march on Langely Virginia right now!
Have gnu, will travel.
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When things get to the point of an upheaval your aren't going to stop it. But you can evacuate people, circle the wagons, etc.
There were plenty of warning that things were about to blow up in Libya a few years ago, but the ambassador in Benghazi was still caught in the middle and murdered. That could have been prevented.
I doubt that very much.
Remote Neural Monitoring
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We're gonna need better tin-foil hats people.
Used to use people. Really smart guys that could predict this. They'd yank out people before things went to hell. Cuba, Iran are famous examples. Goes back about 100 years. They probably had ways even back then. Old police style work. The US used to send in people to fix things. Some people didn't like that. Guys like Castro, who is a monster. Look it up sometime, see what he used to do to people.
This is just part of the matrix. The real matrix. They're coming to get you aha, oho, ahee, ahoo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...