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Microsoft Unveils Windows 10 Creators Update, Coming in Early 2017 (fortune.com)

Microsoft today announced Creators Update for Windows 10. The company said Creators Update will release with a slew of new features at no charge in early 2017. From a report on Fortune: The Windows 10 Creators Update lets users on mobile devices take three-dimensional photos by scanning an object as they walk around it. It also allows for 3D graphics in Microsoft's popular PowerPoint presentation software, and a new "Paint 3D" application lets people edit photos and other designs in three dimensions. Terry Myerson, Microsoft's executive vice president for the Windows and devices group, said the update was tailored for gamers who are increasingly interested in augmented and virtual reality experiences. "Windows 10 will be your platform for gaming glory," he said at a product launch event in New York.

91 comments

  1. And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Isn't that nice of them?

    1. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      oooh - troll moded not 1 minute after posting - I see the M$ shills are out in force.

      Look pal - the point is that it's a bunch of unnecessary features used to strengthen their failing position in the market place for a Windows-as-a-service that they've ramrodded down everyone's throats and they have the audacity to proclaim it's a "free update" as if they're doing us a favor.

      They're not.

    2. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look pal - the point is that it's Micro$oft and bad because Micro$oft

    3. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you care, go use your Linux desktop.. and when you want to do *real* work, fire up your 2000 Workstation 'cause, ya know, that's all anyone would ever need. Just ask you.

    4. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would one need Windows to do "real work"?

      I've been using Linux to do "real work" for 15 years. If we take a retrospective look at thing, I'm pretty damned sure that to today's date, more "real work" has been done on real VT100s, or emulations of them, than on all versions of Windows combined.

      Get off my lawn, naïve kid.

    5. Re:And it's a *free* update by Ayanami_R · · Score: 1

      Unnecessary to you. My kid can't wait for this update as an aspiring mechanical engineer, and his sister, who is going into animation wants it yesterday.

      They both want the new AIO too, as it ties right into what they want to do.

      Different strokes for different folks.

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    6. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then your kids are idiots because this has been possible with other software for years already. Why are they waiting for Microsoft's shit implementation on a spyware/adware OS?

    7. Re:And it's a *free* update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! Windows is a toy that is only good for playing video games. Terry Myerson, Microsoft's executive vice president for the Windows and devices group, even admitted that in this very article. Linux is what runs the world.

  2. ... what? by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it an OS function to take 3D pictures of things?

    I want my OS to provide basic functionality and then let me decide what toys to put on top of it.

    1. Re:... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's probably some way this is leveraged to provide yet another way of tracking and spying on users, but since I saw this only a few seconds ago I haven't worked out how they'd use this to do that; anyone want to take a stab at it?

    2. Re:... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      There's probably some way this is leveraged to provide yet another way of tracking and spying on users

      One word: Nudes.

    3. Re:... what? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i'm sure it's that and has nothing to do with hololense, surely a mysterious (not really) conspiracy (nope) to secretly (not secret) track you (anon data)

    4. Re:... what? by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

      They probably mean just that the paint app included with Windows 10 is being updated. The line between Core OS and applications included with the OS has been blurring for a long time now. All OSes are subject to this, including Linux.

      Hell, most modern programming languages do this now too. mutter mutter grumble

    5. Re:... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why include a calculator? A paint viewing application? A web browser? Those aren't "core os" functions.

      But... it's okay when Google/Apple/etc does it... because they are't Evil like M$.

    6. Re: ... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Straw man all the way down boys.

    7. Re:... what? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Why is it an OS function to take 3D pictures of things?

      I want my OS to provide basic functionality and then let me decide what toys to put on top of it.

      Because then the OS can present a unified interface for 3D scanners to applications. It won't matter if your scanner was based on dual cameras, or an old Kinect, or a new Kinect (old = pattern distortion, new = time of flight), etc. etc. etc. Any application who wants to take a volumetric image can simply ask for one and not worry about the underlying details.

      Relying on 3rd party applications leads to odd fragmentation issues where Scanner A only works with programs A, B, and C, while Scanner B requires program D, and gonig from D to A requires programs E and F to convert formats. Or you end up with what happened to scanners that led to the TWAIN standard.

    8. Re:... what? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      You are confusing the applications with the underlying API.

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    9. Re:... what? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Bad and worse engineering. I guess things need to come crashing down before people learn to respect KISS again.

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    10. Re:... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >OS to provide basic functionality...

      All through history, the Middleman has wanted acknowledgement & a fan club. OS's should be anonymous players on the digital stage, but unfortunately, like all businesses, they succumb to the inevitable evangelism of Branding and some self-induced sense of responsibility to 'help' everyone it meets.

    11. Re:... what? by tepples · · Score: 1

      The applications bundled with Windows exist in part to help the users diagnose whether the drivers work. How many printer troubleshooting guides have "Try to print something from Notepad" as a step?

    12. Re: ... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. It is evil when they do it.
      2. Google only gives you apps.

    13. Re: ... what? by ASDFnz · · Score: 1

      It is not a straw man when he names specific entities.

      No other comment.

    14. Re:... what? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      This is just microsoft shouting into the wind, "We're still relevant... Let us monetize you..."

    15. Re: ... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None I hope considering the "Print test page" button in the generic printers driver window.

    16. Re:... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm sure it's that and has nothing to do with hololense, surely a mysterious (not really) conspiracy (nope) to secretly (not secret) track you (anon data)

      Says the guy logged in via Facebook

    17. Re: ... what? by tepples · · Score: 1

      You have a point about that.

      But how useful would a graphical operating environment for a PC without even the most basic editor for its supported data types be? Perhaps that's why Windows bundles Notepad.

    18. Re: ... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a strawman because he's attacking a position that nobody advanced. I (among many others) do care that Google and other phone makers cram a bunch of bloatware garbage into Android, which is why I only use custom ROMs and install the bare minimum Gapps for what I need. I don't care about Apple because I don't use Apple.

  3. A slew? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would rather say it has a "plethora."

    1. Re:A slew? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Or a slough.

  4. Not an OS update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This isn't an OS update. It's a forcibly bundled app that I don't want.

    1. Re:Not an OS update by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

      But it's a 3D version of MS Paint. How can you not like quality software like that?

    2. Re:Not an OS update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I painted a 3D picture with it, but it wouldn't let me print it since my printer is only 2D. :(

  5. App on SourceForge is probably prior art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming M$ tried to get a patent on that tech, there was already an open source version of probably a previous proprietary concept that would take a set of images around an object, either requiring positional metadata, or inferring it from the object's location in the pictures, and set them up as reverse rendering points in order to create a 3d depth map and then infer the geometry of the object before creating a texture map for it.

    Not sure how good it is since I didn't have the hardware to take photographs and test it at the time, but it seems worth mentioning now!

  6. NICE TIPO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Microsoft's exclusive vice president

    Oh, you mean he's not a vice president for anyone else? Or is he a limited time offer just for me?

  7. Relaunch the old UIs by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 0

    Every single one back through 3.1. Make them pay to play. I would pay good money for a Windows 10 machine that looked like Windows NT.

    I don't want a poorly designed tiling window manager. I don't want a new start button.

    1. Re:Relaunch the old UIs by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Workaround - I've seen people use MS Win10 just to run VirtualBox full screen with an older version of MS Windows.

  8. How appropriate. by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    An update dedicated to gamers.How appropriate. They must know that Windows has become nothing more than a game launcher for me.

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    1. Re:How appropriate. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Thats a heckuva expensive way to launch games.

    2. Re:How appropriate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You paid for it?

    3. Re:How appropriate. by iampiti · · Score: 1

      It'll become the same to me when using Win7 is no longer feasible. I even plan to put some launcher on start (maybe Steam Big screen mode) so that I see as little of Windows as possible.

    4. Re:How appropriate. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Same here, with the one exception of the occasional Word document I need to work on (no, sadly LibreOffice will not cut it), but for that I would have no problem having a Win7 VM around.

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  9. Name had my hopes up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would love an actual "creators" version of Windows. One that allows disabling all unneeded apps and all possible non-essential background processes. That would actually be useful and I'd pay money for it.
    And don't tell me you can tweak it yourself.... that used to be possible, but it's getting worse with every edition of Windows.

    I can start my audio software with low latency, but it will reliably crap out and underflow and ruin the audio within 20 minutes every single time. It's an OS problem, without doubt. They don't even care to make it usable. This is the primary reason why more audio pros choose Apple products. Linux is a non-starter.

    1. Re: Name had my hopes up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've tried running my audio production under WINE under Linux and it's mostly worked.

  10. Only update I want... by MitchDev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only update I want to see for Win 10 removes all the "telemetry" and spyware garbage...

    1. Re:Only update I want... by zlives · · Score: 2

      this 3d app actually sounds cool, but i will never have it (ms version) because of win10 telemetry.
      the microsoft surface pro looks super cool and i am sure it actually is a good hardware product, but i will never have it (ms version) because of win10 telemetry.
      holo lens looks super cool (at least from vids), but i will never have it (ms version) because of win10 telemetry.

      i can get over the UI mostly because i can work around it... but how do i conscientiously support ms telemetry in this post Snowden age.

    2. Re:Only update I want... by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      No argument there, the OS should NEVER spy on the user or report their software, web browsing, keystrokes, or anything else to anyone not explicitly authorized by the user.

    3. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would also like to regain control over when patches are applied.

      As it stands I am still running windows 7, because it runs all the games I want to play.

    4. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No argument there, the OS should NEVER spy on the user or report their software, web browsing, keystrokes, or anything else to anyone not explicitly authorized by the user.

      Lol, I still don't understand people complaining about telemetry when Android, IOS, and others do the same damn thing and don't give them any crap about it either.

    5. Re:Only update I want... by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      You know they actually make that. It's called Windows 10 Enterprise. Feel free to run out and buy it now.

    6. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those days are gone, man. It is now standard for software to spy on users. You can't change this, there is far too much money behind it.

    7. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SHUT THE FUCK UP! You think it spies? Don't just cry about it. Fire up Wireshark and prove it, asshole!

    8. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will be removed when Google and Apple do the same,

    9. Re:Only update I want... by zlives · · Score: 1

      nope, tried to buy it but i guess i have to sign an enterprise agreement... to much paper work

    10. Re:Only update I want... by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      Fuck that. Why should ANY version have it?

    11. Re:Only update I want... by zlives · · Score: 2

      also
      get win 10 enterprise LTSB
      deploy win2016 server
      create domain
      join pc to domain
      configure group policy to disable telemetry
      deploy group policy
      easy as pie

    12. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen. 100% agree. Giving me back control of the OS that runs on physical hardware I own is the only update that matters. Windows XP to Windows 7 has better update controls. Everything is backwards now. I don't trust any update from Microsoft anymore since update gate.

    13. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The flaw in your thinking is to assume that they don't give a crap.

    14. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Problem is, how do you know it wouldn't put back in with an update? Now that MS has gone down this path, I see little reason to trust them in the future, even if they appear to be changing courses (again). What's frustrating is Windows 7 was actually pretty decent (before the upgrade nagging was added), had they continued that path Windows could have actually become a solid, decent to use OS.

    15. Re:Only update I want... by tepples · · Score: 1

      The cost of not doing paperwork is accepting telemetry.

    16. Re:Only update I want... by zlives · · Score: 1

      nope just not getting win10, doing fine ;)

    17. Re: Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What current OS do you use that you think has no telemetry? Or are you sticking to your Amiga?

      Telemetry being bad or not is a different subject since Apple, Android and even linux has tracking in it now unless you strip systems and roll your own updates.

    18. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you haven't installed any updates on Windows 7/8 in the last two months, otherwise you've got all the same telemetry anyway.

    19. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The further flaw is that he thinks it's fine for someone to do bad things because other people do bad things.

      I'd like to see how he reacts to the news of a murder. "I don't understand why people complain about this murderer when other people murder too".

    20. Re:Only update I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been shown multiple times that Windows 10 sends a lot of data back to the Microsoft and that "telemetry" cannot be disabled. The fact that the data is encrypted and is inaccessible even to the person who owns that data indicates that Microsoft doesn't want them knowing what they are collecting.

      The burden of proof here is on Microsoft since they claim that none of the data is personally identifiable, but they have yet to prove it. Even if it did turn out to be as MS says, there should still be a way to disable it completely and updates should be fully controllable by the user.

  11. The Glory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Or the agony of defeat!

  12. PowerPoint by sucko · · Score: 0

    I will save the day with a bulleted list!

    -no one

  13. "Windows 10 will be your platform for gaming glory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Until it updates and reboots right in the middle of a match without asking you. Again.

  14. Windows 10 My Right to Privacy Update? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you know, a version of windows that minimizes stored and transmitted data to people other than myself and intended recipients?

  15. 3D is the next big thing by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

    If your calendar says the year is 2010.

  16. Re:"Windows 10 will be your platform for gaming gl by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

    Indeed. Frankly, Windows 10 will not be my platform for anything. I have already made my decision; I will continue to use my Win7 systems until I can no longer keep them secure, and then I will switch to either Linux (if it is finally a viable platform for me by that point, which it isn't yet) or to Mac.

  17. Day late and dollar short by ausekilis · · Score: 2

    MS used to have the best developer suite in the business. Visual Studio was awesome and much easier to use than it's competition... even though compiling things in Windows was always a pain in the ass with DLL hell and whatnot.

    Linux has been bundled with the basics to develop pretty much all along. If not, it's easy to go to the package manager and get KDevelop, CodeBlocks, etc... and get all the stuff you (likely) need in 3 minutes. OSX has hopped on that bandwagon years ago as well.

    I'll consider using MS's offering if they make it easier than the competition. They've managed to come from behind (I'll double that entendre) before with good offerings. Lets see if they manage to this time around.

    1. Re:Day late and dollar short by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Really? I thought Visual Studio was junk. It's built in help was useless, it's UI was structured badly, incredibly difficult to manage products, and it was slow. Ok, it's better than Eclipse but not better than the basic command line. Visual Studio is my go-to example for everything wrong with the IDE concept.

    2. Re:Day late and dollar short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's really not better than eclipse. Really not. Not even for C.

  18. Not interested until by iampiti · · Score: 1, Redundant
    • They remove all the spyware
    • Let me remove all the crap I have no use for: Cortana, OneDrive, the phone-like apps, the Store.
    • It stops pushing me to use Ms services: Windows accounts, Store...
    • It stops forcing me to use UIs designed for touch on my desktop (Settings app ...)
    1. Re:Not interested until by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Win10 must be regarded as Malware that aims to sabotage the user.

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  19. Don't need, don't want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't care.

  20. 3d pictures? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like my galaxy s6 already does or, like, actually mapping an object? I don't understand

  21. Self incriminating by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    The Windows 10 Creators Update lets users on mobile devices take three-dimensional photos by scanning an object as they walk around it.

    Boy, and you thought picture boards had penis selfie problems now.

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    1. Re: Self incriminating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your penis is something people can walk around, you should definitely give it a try.

  22. Re: "Basic" functionality by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Well, if that's how you feel about it, just delete your Operating System and see how far you get with just a BIOS. That should be all the basic functionality you can handle!

  23. Re:... "simple" by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Fine, just BIOS operation for you, too! No OS for you, that would be way too complex... In fact, why don't you just ditch these complex computer things and join the strictest Amish-type people you can find.

  24. be prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember that other Creator's Update, codenamed Great Deluge?

  25. Waltzing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    I can walk around my own penis.

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  26. ...also integrating game streaming, to replace Twi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In direct competition with Twitch and YouTube, but support built in to the OS as well as integrated with other services by default like Cortana

  27. Re:... "simple" by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Stupid, more stupid, what you just said. Impressive.

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  28. Re: ... "simple" by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I learned it from people like you.