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Climate Change Rate To Turn Southern Spain To Desert By 2100, Report Warns (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Southern Spain will be reduced to desert by the end of the century if the current rate of greenhouse gas emissions continue unchecked, researchers have warned. Anything less than extremely ambitious and politically unlikely carbon emissions cuts will see ecosystems in the Mediterranean change to a state unprecedented in the past 10 millennia, they said. The study, published in the journal Science, modeled what would happen to vegetation in the Mediterranean basin under four different paths of future carbon emissions, from a business-as-usual scenario at the worst end to keeping temperature rises below the Paris climate deal target of 1.5C at the other. Temperatures would rise nearly 5C globally under the worst case scenario by 2100, causing deserts to expand northwards across southern Spain and Sicily, and Mediterranean vegetation to replace deciduous forests. Even if emissions are held to the level of pledges put forward ahead of the Paris deal, southern Europe would experience a "substantial" expansion of deserts. The level of change would be beyond anything the region's ecosystems had experienced during the holocene, the geological epoch that started more than 10,000 years ago. The real impact on Mediterranean ecosystems, which are considered a hotspot of biodiversity, could be worse because the study did not look at other human impacts, such as forests being turned over to grow food. The researchers fed a model with 10,000 years of pollen records to build a picture of vegetation in the region, and used that to infer previous temperatures in the Mediterranean. They then ran the model to see what would happen to the vegetation in the future, using four different scenarios of warming, three of them taken from the UN's climate science panel, the IPCC. Only the most stringent cut in emissions -- which is roughly equivalent to meeting the Paris aspiration of holding warming to 1.5C -- would see ecosystems remain within the limits they experienced in the Holocene.
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Fuck off.
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I'll be dead by 2100. Spain can be underwater for all I care.
Climate change to make blue monkeys fly out my butt by the year 2124.
Worth mentioning that climate models are not reliable at anything less than continental scale (according to IPCC), and even then, there is some doubt about their accuracy at any scale.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
The Rain in Spain stays mainly out-of-the Plain...
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
In billions of years the sun is going to encompass the Earth, right? Global warming is in our future.
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Saying "it was like this" some x thousand years ago does nothing for people and things living there now. The scope of less than 100 years is fully within development time frames for cities. This result unfortunately neglects the impact on the Maghreb, which will be significantly worse off in change and is currently worse off already; migration must be enabled.
They can film them there and create a renewed film industry.
Doubt it got greener since then.
Another scare story that won't pan out. At least this time, most people will be dead before we can know for certain.
Global warming and pollution will not be held back unless we have mandatory birth control world wide. As population increases more and more land must be used for agriculture and meat as well as housing and roads. The more human activity we have the worse nature will decline. One child for every female under every circumstance needs to be the world wide law.
So, then, there is no hope at all.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
I was there in 1981 and rode a train across the interior of southern Spain. It was mostly desert then.
The only activity was the Sisyphean effort of fools using massive machines to "comb" huge rocks out of the soil and stack them at the sides of fields. Every field had a huge berm of (big) boulders in a rectangle around it. The intent was to later irrigate and farm it. Guess that didn't work out for ya.
So BFD, it was desert and it will be desert! Get over it now. Maybe they can use it as a giant-ass prison farm; certainly plenty of rocks that need breaking there.
Look, who wants 26% atmospheric oxygen? More air to breathe? Who wants that?
I dunno. You also get worse wildfires. Add that to the drought and there could be even bigger trouble.
Southern spain is desert by most peoples definitions already.
every place where people are not actively agriculturing has been desolated by farming already.. like a fucking 1000 years ago by now?
basically, this leads to believe that they haven't actually been to spain. or even looked at google maps. just compare italy to spain. hell, if you looked at pictures of spanish civil war prior to WW2(!!!!) it's already like that.
https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Spain/@39.8596584,-12.7036393,2880738m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0xc42e3783261bc8b:0xa6ec2c940768a3ec!8m2!3d40.463667!4d-3.74922
it's not desert only in places that have human agriculture, so fuck this study - give a better one.
The only way communist economic systems can seem viable is constant injection of more population, so controlling overpopulation ( the only solution that works ) is off the table. It's a suicide religious cult!
Does it mean we'll have to become racist to Spanish refugees again? it's so 1936...
Why is it that the feeblest minds always have the urge to invent words? Anyway.
You might have noticed that back then the continents were in a different position. Also that the dinosaurs didn't really care (or couldn't really influence) if large parts of those continents changed and became inhospitable. You might have noticed that a lot of them died out during the couple million years they "ruled" the earth. Not all of them due to the meteor, by the way.
Some of them because continents change and so do climates. It's not really hard to tell, but it's no big deal if 50% of a population of dinosaurs die out. There was plenty more to keep the species going.
Thinking about it... it's pretty much the same for humans today. So, why worry?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Nobody who knows what they're talking about talks like you do. It's really that simple.
"Old man yells at systemd"
Climate change refers to an increase in average global temperatures. It turns out that that increase in the average is largely due to increases at high latitudes. Climate change will likely lead to very little warming in areas that are already warm. Furthermore, it will likely lead to increased evaporation and precipitation. That is, there is a good chance that Spain will actually become greener.
We already see this effect in the Sahara desert.
Nobody really cares if all of humans die off or not. It's that simple. We're the only ones who do and in a couple of million years we'll all be extinct anyway. Why bother? It's all futile.
... Nothing of value was lost.
A: Raise taxes!
And bigger insects and arachnids... Spiders hunting dogs. Who would NOT want that ?
The Jurassic period. [...]
How often do you repeat this canned nonsense and where did you get it? It've rebutted a previous incarnation here. Of course, it's not atypical for creationists and similar groups to keep repeating refuted arguments over and over again - it is, of course, much easier than to come up with real arguments. And chances are your audience does not know enough to understand the state of the art and the quality (or lack of same) of the argument. So while intellectually dishonest, it may be an economically efficient strategy if you are interested in propaganda more than in understanding...
Stephan
Exactly. In all the debates about climate change and the environmental issues we face, I always wonder why nobody brings up the subject of birth control. Really, all of the issues we face can be reduced to the single root cause, that there's too many humans on this planet. It's not sustainable.
It wouldn't have to "hurt" either. Let every person have two children max, and with the people who don't want any kids at all and those who die before creating offspring, human population would gradually decrease. Though perhaps for the next 60 years or so, halving population every generation with a one child policy would be the more radical, but also the safer variant for the environment.
Yet as you also correctly state, everyone is always only talking about growth. We need more consumers, more workers, more people to pay the rents of the older generations... it's not a sustainable strategy. We are behaving like bacteria, endlessly reproducing until we kill of our host.
Whoosh!
Nothing to see here... Out walking my spider...
By 'nobody' do you mean everyone and their dog?
You might have noticed that back then the continents were in a different position.
Clearly, as the sea levels rise, they will float back! Duh!
"You might have noticed that a lot of them died out during the couple million years they "ruled" the earth."
They mostly miniaturized and became lizards and birds. Also: 'couple million years'?
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
Well, I'm about to turn 51. As one of the tech people who have been in tech since the early 1980s, I'd mention that my generation protested, worked as activists, and put ourselves out there not only for tech issues- but also for environmental ones.
My generation (the boomers), of which I'm in the youngest portion of, can't help you younger folks with this. Sure we vote. But increasingly we are retired, or worse sick.
You young kids need to pick up the pace. We're not able to anymore. We did our best: you need to do better.
You've been warned.
Another consultant who stuck it out.
"We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
... that energy sector in Spain should start investing heavily in photovoltaics, major upgrades in electrical grid (especially on South-to-North direction) and prepare for buying up land in southern part of the country?
Enough with the climate change stories. We get it. Check. Please move on.
Why bother? It's all futile.
Marvin? Is that you?
Gosh, thanks. That must be why the other ships call me Meatfucker -- GCU Grey Area (Eccentric)
Civilization Will End Within 15 Or 30 Years
Yeah, this point is exactly like TFA :
also paraphraseable as "if nothing ever changes and absolutely everything keeps as it is now, we will be doomed".
Except that things change anyway, no matter what people want.
(And same with today's prediction. By 2100, there are probably going to be tons of other factors changing.
Maybe people's energy requirement will be lower simply because it's cheaper overall.
(lower consumption electric/electronic gizmos == cheaper electricity bill)
Maybe electric car will get more popular which even factoring battery/solar pannels manufacturing, could have some impact : by incite people to burn less fossils and because some regions like europe are trying to move fast away from fossil electricity generation)
Maybe a huge social collapse will cause society to regress to a hunter/gatherer state which has a lot less environmental impact by the sheer reason that they are much smaller societies
etc.).
* Population Will Inevitably And Completely Outstrip Whatever Small Increases In Food Supplies We Make
* Demographers Agree Almost Unanimously Thirty Years From Now, The Entire World Will Be In Famine
* 100-200 Million People Per Year Will Be Starving To Death During The Next Ten Years
...and as you note: this came as a surprise - population actually tend to slow their growth spontaneously. /. )
(This was even discussed here on
Suddenly in modern societies, having more children became a burden, not an economic advantage.
And thus, the catastrophic scenario evoked by demographers didn't happen.
In A Decade, Urban Dwellers Will Have To Wear Gas Masks To Survive Air Pollution
Actually, spot-on, in some more polluted area of the world. Mostly in developing economies. :
(Industrial areas in China come in mind as an exemple. But happens also in South America)
With one minor difference
- The people didn't *actually* start wearing the predicted gaz masks, and thus we are seeing increases in health issue in those smoggy areas
(whereas the prediction was that people *will do* wear the gaz masks and business as usual will continue).
Meanwhile, there has been some effort in the occident to put a dent in pollution (several European countries come in mind)
Childbearing [Will Be] A Punishable Crime Against Society, Unless The Parents Hold A Government License
Completely spot-on.
Say hello to China and its "Single Child" policy.
And turned out to be not that useful, as mentioned above, other countries without such policy also curbed their population growth all the same (big surprise to 1970s demographers).
By The Year 2000 There Won’t Be Any More Crude Oil
By the 1970 definition, yes all the 1970-era wells are getting dangerously low, and price of gaz and other fossils have exploded as a consequence of demande/offer market laws...
(so the 1970-era prediction were right when thinking that their well will dry up in the near future) ...except that increased price and advances in technology made other extraction methods viable.
so instead of the drying wells leading to a collaps of gaz-based technologies,
the drying wells got simply replaced by fraking and co.
There's an interesting article on why most of these dire predictions didn't come to pass, noting some positive outcomes of the increased environmental awareness, like the Clean Water, Clean Air, Endangered Species acts, and other environmental protection laws.
And who knows, maybe due to tons of small modifications in habits and lifestyles everywhere, the "business continues as usual and southern europe turns into
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"Couple million." Like. Two million? BTW. They're still here. Look up.
Nope, I'm afraid that dinosaurs did not in fact become lizards. Incidentally, were you "educated" in (or even near) Oklahoma??
Your bullshit calculation is really quite ridiculous. You're forgetting we're in the middle of a period of ice-ages right now. Earth's current "average" temperature is unusually cold, not warm. If you want it to remain so, you're going to need to drop a giant fucking anchor off Antarctica.
Why bother? It's all futile.
Marvin? Is that you?
I just want you to know that I have a throbbing pain in the diodes all down my left side.
But no one cares.
Go on, says it's BS, it's not your fault, it would happen even without us, it has happened before, you don't care, that everything is just lies, the more fscked the better... choose your antics.
Eventually -- and I also say this to all people who will get the worst part of the deal, like the ones at Tuvalu -- the majority of nations on Earth will sign a very harsh treaty about climate warming contribution.
That is my firm hope, at least, that we shall enforce a prohibition to do business with any country which does not downsize its CO2 (and other pollutants) emissions to the necessary levels, in order to mitigate our main source of pollution.
Be it the USA, China, Russia... whatever... I hope a heavy tax is levied on imports from countries which don't do their share. And on exports to them, too. Let's see you laugh when your pocket starts aching.
Free expression is nice, it enables you to mock others and that's how we separate the good hearted ones from the hecklers. But Freedom is not free, one has to bear the consequences of his/her actions.
Let's see how it works when your products get more and more expensive because of retaliatory taxes, when your music gets even expensive than what it already costs, when "piracy" is fiercely fought until people forget an "intellectual property" even exists... let's see you laugh then.
We'll all be suffering with the heat, that's unavoidable. But making the hecklers suffer in poverty will give us some relief. Go on, keep on burning gas to cool yourselves under the Sun and keep complaining there's no free energy -- because there's no free lunch, isn't it the current "common sense"?
Good luck with your internal market, because that is what you may be reduced to. And if you live in one of those emergent countries and want to have your opportunity to pollute, too, be sure this applies to your country as well. I'm not anti-US or anti-Europe, I'm anti-polluters that walk laughing to the bank while causing the world to become toast.
And this is not communist, capitalist, socialist or whatever. I'll support any government, left or right, who adopts such a stance of paying back the polluters.
Have a nice day.
Mod this brilliant comment up. Al Gore's tipping point expired 10 years ago. It was a beautiful summer.
I have known or at least met many environmental luminaries in the course of my career, and as one of them put it: I = P*S/T -- that is to say environmental impact is proportional to population and standard of living, but is inversely proportional to technology.
So the key to avoiding a dystopian future is to keep the rate of technological improvement greater than the rate of population growth. The way to do that is to invest in people. Societies who have lower infant mortality rates have lower birth rates; societies with better education are more innovative.
Will the future way we do things look radically different from today? Yes! Just as the way we do things today look radically different from the past. Change happens in both the environment and human society; it's inevitable. The question is whether it happens at a rate organisms and people can adapt to, and in particular whether we make a conscious decision to direct that change or have it forced upon us.
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No.
All we have to do is switch to cleaner environmentally safe sources of energy like wind and solar power. The full potential of these energy sources have not been reached at all.
You can bet that Flint Michigan was once thrilled when factories opened. Now as a consequence people have been ruined by the poisonous water.
Flint water was tainted by lead from improper water treatment, not from anything factories did.
1. Spread misinformation (half truths at best)
2. Wait for real estate prices to drop
3. Snatch nice areas close to mediterranean white sand beaches
Too bad nobody will be alive to suffer the consequences of their actions. Nobody with the power to change is going to change, because they simply don't give a fuck about anybody else.
As population increases more and more land must be used for agriculture and meat as well as housing and roads
Out in the real world, we're using less land for agriculture than we did in 1900, and world population is going to stabilize and start declining shortly after mid-century. China is already facing a looming demographic crisis.
a desert is just a larger beach
more tourism!!! yay, infinite sand means infinite drunken brits and germans that dont have to blitzkrieg the beaches early in the morning to get the better seats, so they wont even have to fight amongst themselves for those silly reasons. Finally there will be peace in spain between the sausage people and the harry potters and everbody will finally team up to the greatest threat here and everywhere else: electronic old men, running the world
your turn
Before the Schutzstaffel moderators and shills came out in force I had a blast seeing the most upvoted comments coming from people without sand in their eyes. Bravo!
It's always in 2100, when most of the witnesses can expect to be dead, along with those who made the predictions. That's one way of avoiding your theory becoming falsified.
They probably learned their lesson after the predictions that the oceans would rise in 2010 never happened.
Bullshit..
Gosh, when I think of southern Spain I think of spaghetti westerns and the deserty areas where they filmed.
Nope, I'm afraid that dinosaurs did not in fact become lizards. Incidentally, were you "educated" in (or even near) Oklahoma??
Burn!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I bet by 2100 most of the Southwestern United States will be a desert, too! Oh, the humanity!
Hopefully, by that time mankind will have developed the technology to move water from one place to another.
Have any of you actually been to southern Spain. It already looks like New Mexico or Nevada. It seems pretty dry already.
The palm trees were also a bit of a shock. I was not expecting to see those in Europe.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Let's not forget that these guys predicted Lower Manhattan would be under water by 2006. It's impossible for me to believe any of this stuff anymore.
everyone believes it
that said Florida would be under water by now? That we'd have no snow by 2015. That hurricanes would increase in intensity AND NUMBER?
Yeah, I believe them this time.
Look, speaking as someone who managed petabytes of data for NOAA and the NWS, the climatologists there all said basically the same thing. We have 160 years or so of weather data and even less of climate data. The planet is 4 BILLION years old. We don't have enough data to make any real judgments.
I'm not a climate change denier, but I'm also not listening to this 'sky is falling' bullshit either. Democrats have admitted this is just a money making scheme. The fear mongering isn't helping at all. Is it possible man is affecting the climate? Sure. But as the above predictions have shown, none of these extrapolations are useful. I'm all for doing what we can to limit our impact on the environment, but this type of bullshit reporting has to stop.
Pax Vobiscum
You, sir, are a complete moron.
There are people who genuinely believe that, because the climate was warmer in the past, we humans who have survived with a cooler climate for so long, have nothing to worry about when the climate warms back up, for no other reason than "the climate used to be much warmer".
So no, not whoosh.
First off. I wrote it. I figured that I should "improve it" to refute your supposed refutations.
But you fucking people are god damned worthless anyways. You never offer solutions to your AGW. Kill yourself. Be an example to the rest of the world. If you have no solutions and the solution is to remove mankind, FUCKING KILL YOURSELF. And you know what. When the fucking fat stupid shitstained scum like you give up the black flag of Islam and hoards of those vile scum will take over. You are basically ensuring the WORST CASE outcome possible. Earth overrun by Islam because you wanted to crucify all people who dont believe in AGW as creationists and sought to humiliate and destroy Christians and those who dont worship in the Cult-Church of Climatology. FUCK YOU. I hope you die a horrible death, slow, long and painful and you watch your imaginary friends die (as you have non in real life). I spit on you. I spit on you. I SPIT ON YOU.
That's easy! I got this.
They do it because the smartest minds do it, and everyone (even feebles) wants to look besmartified. Assume a virtue, if you have it not.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
That happened because the Syr Daria was diverted for irrigation, removing the Aral Sea's primary water source. It had nothing to do with climate change. It had everything to do with the socialism you espouse.
I hear change starts with yourself. Feel free to start saving the world. I'm sure someone will miss you... But that's the price to pay.
Oh, maybe you are as wrong as all the doomsday cults before you. Since you are willing to not have all of those billions of lives lived in the name of your wacko theory, I'm sure you are willing to donate what's left of yours. Be sure to ask not to be creamed... Carbon footprint and all.
First off. I wrote it. I figured that I should "improve it" to refute your supposed refutations.
Well, as far as I can tell, so far you haven't - you just repeat it. But I'd suggest you first try to figure out how valid (or invalid) your point is before you work on the details.
But you fucking people are god damned worthless anyways. You never offer solutions to your AGW. If you have no solutions and the solution is to remove mankind, [...rest of the rant deleted]
The scientific truth of a statement has nothing to do with the question of an adequate way to handle the problem identified in the statement. I'd love to have Star-Trek-like superluminal travel, but that wish has nothing to do with the validity of the theory of relativity.
I happen to think that it is better to know and understand a problem even if we don't yet have a perfect solution to it - indeed, I find that usually that is a necessary precondition for addressing the problem. And even if we never come up with an acceptable way to at least partially control global warming (I think there are plenty, and the side benefits alone probably outweigh the associated costs), I still would want to understand the mechanisms that cause it. Indeed, if ever they drag me to my execution, I'd still like to know how the guillotine works. Hi, my name is Stephan and I'm a scientist.
Stephan
Wouldn't it be a hoot if we start accepting very detailed climate models just as the sun, perhaps as predicted by new solar dynamics models and historically low sunspot activity enters a cooling phase that is unmodeled as a reduction int the energy input to the earth?
"Knowing everything doesn't help..."
Yeah, that comforts me that my grand-grand-grand-grand-grandson will be 2 inches tall, fly around and eat bird seed in some idiot's cage.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No, most of them went completely extinct - only one small branch evolved into birds. And reptiles had already split off long before - lizards (and proto-mammals) walked the earth before dinosaurs existed.
I mean hey, primates rule the planet now, but its okay if a mass extinction wipes us all out, so long as some squirrel monkeys somewhere manage to survive the catastrophe, right?
--- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
Not even anything so closely related - more like some descendant of flying squirrels. Hey, the mammals survived, right? What's everyone griping about?
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Your pretty much correct, AGW scaremongers offer no real solutions except sink the USA into a third world country with stifling regulations. Al Gore goes around in CO2 pumping airplanes to Climate Change conferences, like he doesnt believe in all this AGW stuff himself, he wont live what he preaches because it means he would have to go live in the third world cesspit his policies would create. It all kind of looks like an excuse just to suppress the common people into poverty with rules that do not apply to the elite, the elite will continue to buzz around in their planes and eat their caviar, they just want to push the common people into poverty. Why do you AGW-enviro-whackos expect people to love you when all you offer people is poverty, misery and suffering gauranteed 100% with your insane de-industrialization and vastly expensive and inefficient "renewable" energy which actually has enormous problems of its own, such as the toxic chemicals used to make photovoltaics and the lead and heavy metals in batteries for the electric cars which are not quite environmentally friendly.
These same AGW scaremongers who think they are so brilliant than want to swap us with crime and disease infested, low IQ thir world populations who screwed up their own populations and ill screw up anything they touch, at the same time they bash and viciously attack Christian Americans who are some of the most moral and liberty defending people around. It all starts to fit together, these Liberals are totalitarian statists and AGW is just a computer generated scam to dupe people into giving up their liberty and livilhood and to turn the US into a third world cesspit.
Well done. I absolutely cannot tell if you're trolling or dead serious.
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World population likely to surpass 11 billion in 2100, US population projected to grow by 40 percent over next 85 years
Date:
August 10, 2015
Source:
American Statistical Association
Summary:
The world's population will increase from today's 7.3 billion people to 9.7 billion in 2050 and 11.2 billion at century's end, experts in demographic forecasting have predicted.
Wilmoth told the audience that according to models of demographic change derived from historical experience, it is estimated the global population will be between 9.5 and 13.3 billion people in 2100. In the United States, the population is projected to add 1.5 million people per year on average until the end of the century, pushing the current count of 322 million people to 450 million, he said.
Donald? Shouldn't you be stumping in Texas to avoid losing that one, too?
Stephan
With the election, it's all going to be over in 10 days anyway, if you listen to the candidates and realize that ONE Of them will be president elect..
Oh, wait...
You mean the sun will keep rising and setting even after November 8th? How can that be so?
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
We need to introduce alternates for energy supply ASAP.
A combo of nuclear power, wind, solar and tidal turbines need to be introduced. Now.
ALL oil and gas powered systems have to be taken out action NOW. And I do mean NOW.
A method for scrubbing the atmosphere has to be introduced. Now.
There are literally NO ALTERNATIVES. Anything else - like the bullshit discussions happening on this board - really need to stop. They only serve to put a sheet anchor on the way forward.
"We must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of this earth." -- Ro
“What’s he saying?” asked Trillian.
“Nothing,” said Zaphod, “he just phoned to wash his head at us.”
Sod walking. I want one I can ride.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Totally whoosh, because tone.
its new population of middle eastern Muslims.
What's the problem?
Europe has no history or culture that it has the confidence to defend, else they would defend it. Europe's white population has no desire to produce enough children to even keep its population stable, and its elites have been teaching their young to be self-loathing. Their politicians have prostrated themselves before their new masters who are immigrating and out-breeding them.
The camels and palm trees will be very happy there and make the new Europeans feel right at home. As the continent's current population commits cultural suicide and imports its own replacements it is perfectly fine that the climate MIGHT be changing in ways that will make the new population happy.
Again, what's the problem? It might be something to worry about if the newest "sky is falling" prediction was going to cause an actual problem, but THIS one is almost perfectly scripted and the timeline is even good.
No. That lifeboat has not been built. Do Your Mind-Uploading Now Because The Arctic Is Bubbling Like Ginger-Ale. At least you're not hoping that runaway global warming can be stopped. “You know hope is a mistake. If you can't fix what's broken, you'll go insane.”
"Crazy is building your ark after the flood has already come".
I mean hey, primates rule the planet now, but its okay if a mass extinction wipes us all out, so long as some squirrel monkeys somewhere manage to survive the catastrophe, right?
Who needs squirrel monkeys? The raccoons have got this. Omnivorous, food hygiene practitioners, small-group socializers, long-lived (20 years), clever enough to open screw top jars and operate door knobs, currently exhibiting broad habitat adaptability, with agile paws and a highly developed sense of touch, raccoons stand a good chance of evolving into Earth's next sapient species if Earth's current sapient species suffers a mischief.
If Southern Spain is cooken'.. The Middle East should be uninhabitable in low lying areas? Some relocation scenarios should be a side by side requirement.
Yup exactly. At least the emptying wells would have given hope that at least the burning will stop, but no once we finished fucking things up we managed to invent a new to keep fucking the things up all the same.
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Losing that one as well? What crack are you smoking?
None of the states are finalized, we are still a week off of that occuring.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?