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Cable TV Price Increases Have Beaten Inflation Every Single Year For 20 Years (businessinsider.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Business Insider: The pay TV industry is losing customers, but prices continue to climb. In fact, for U.S. cable TV in particular, price increases have outpaced inflation for every single one of the past 20 years, according to a recent FCC report surfaced by CordCutting.com. Every one! In 1995, cable cost $22.35 per month, on average. In 2015, it was $69.03. Now, it does makes sense for prices to go up for goods like cable as long as there is inflation. But cable's increases are more than double that of inflation. On average, cable prices went up 5.8% yearly for the past 20 years. Inflation clocked in at 2.2% per year, on average. Though there has been grumbling about the high prices of cable for quite some time, it has lately taken on a more serious air. That's because there is evidence that the pay-TV industry is experiencing a hiccup -- or the start of a long-term decline. The pay-TV industry lost 800,000 subscribers last quarter, according to the research firm SNL Kagan. "About 82% of households that use a TV currently subscribe to a pay-TV service," Bruce Leichtman of Leichtman Research said in a statement last month. "This is down from where it was five years ago, and similar to the penetration level eleven years ago."

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  1. Duh by markdavis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    >"Cable TV Price Increases Have Beaten Inflation Every Single Year For 20 Years"

    I don't think any of us needed a study to tell us this. Although my Interenet speed has gotten better, and I now have HDTV channels, the *quality* of the content and the selection of quality channels has NOT improved. If anything, it has gotten worse and worse.

    This is unsustainable and why you are seeing people jump ship with other options just as soon as they could, and most of those options are only available due to Internet streaming (which is consuming TONS and TONS of bandwidth and increasing exponentially).

    Cable monopolies are far too used to being the only game in town and raking in tons of cash doing so. They need to start offering lower-priced a-la-cart channel options and soon or their slide will continue. But don't think for a moment they will just suffer alone. Since they are still monopolies for Internet in most regions, they will start to try and make up for their lost profits by raising the prices of their Internet services. It is already happening.

    1. Re:Duh by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Cable TV Price Increases Have Beaten Inflation Every Single Year For 20 Years"

      I don't think any of us needed a study to tell us this.

      I did. I think Comcast is paying me $10/month to hold onto one of their cable boxes and list my name as a TV subscriber for a year. Haven't even taken it out of the shipping box. I know the list price of the TV is some positive number, and I'm sure that's the one the FCC claims has been rising 6%/year, but that's not what I'm paying. I've got a $60/month internet connection that I only pay $50 for, and TV is free.

      At the end of the year, I send the box back. Two months later, Comcast calls up and offers to pay me some sum to hold onto another box. I really don't get the business model - you'd think they could find cheaper warehousing for all their excess cable boxes. Or maybe just not buy so many in the first place.

  2. What are they thinking?!? by burtosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like they don't know I don't have any real choices for cable or high speed internet and can't switch!

    /sarcasm

  3. To be somewhat fair... by msauve · · Score: 2

    The number of available channels, and the infrastructure to support the increased bandwidth (think HD, too) has also gone up faster than inflation.

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  4. shocker by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Prices have gone up and the quality of the programming has gotten worse (which I didn't think was possible). The only thing keeping them in business at this point is that in many markets the cable companies are the only source of broadband internet. I would kick Comcast to the curb tomorrow if there was a broadband alternative in my town. The INSTANT there is one, I'm gone.

  5. Lobby your state to change laws. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pass laws that force cable companies to sell internet separate at capped pricing where they can not punish you for not getting cable packages.
    recently moved to florida from the midwest and I get 4X the bandwidth for 1/2 the price and they cant charge me extra for not getting cable tv. a cheap antenna gets me about 18 channels if I really think I need to watch some stupid live sports event. or live news.

    $39 a month for 100mbps/10mbps Comcast was raping me at $70 for 15Mbps/1.5mbps in Michigan

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  6. Hard to believe, but cable used to be AD-FREE by davide+marney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That was the whole point of paying for TV. No ads! And, boy, was it worth it. Now you've got the worst of both worlds, you pay out of pocket AND they crush you with commercials. Frankly, the reason TV is being taken over by Netflix et al. has everything to do with getting rid of ads.

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    1. Re:Hard to believe, but cable used to be AD-FREE by slew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That was the whole point of paying for TV. No ads! And, boy, was it worth it. Now you've got the worst of both worlds, you pay out of pocket AND they crush you with commercials.

      Frankly, the reason TV is being taken over by Netflix et al. has everything to do with getting rid of ads.

      Hardly. Cable (aka CATV or community antenna television) started when people couldn't get good reception at their homes with Yagi (technically Yagi-Uda).
      Because the market for original CATV was limited to folks that couldn't receive over the air and due to lots of regulations which prevented most out-of-area transmission (aka superstations), the CATV concept was pretty much saturated until non-broadcast providers came on board (like HBO which charged a premium but also drove basic cable subscriptions). Cable never meant no-advert TV. Your subscription paid for the cable infrastructure. The premium channels always cost more (even if you pirated them, you had to pay for your pirating equipment).

      FWIW the advert model works great with a unfragmented audience (most people watch the same channels), but unfortunately as the programming becomes more fragmented, the infrastructure to broadcast all possible channels to your house and you pick the one you want to watch becomes less efficient and the revenue from untargetted adverts (e.g., the historical network broadcast and cable model) becomes less tenable and the extra subscription uni-cast on-demand model becomes relatively more cost effective. This is the real dynamic you are seeing today. As bandwidth becomes cheaper and cheaper, eventually is more efficient to just bill you instead of billing the advertisers and everything will become unbundled.

      The downsides of this eventuality are that that high-bandwidth cable that serves most of America is likely to be come quite expensive as the cable companies collapse. In America, if you can't get high-speed internet today, you are likely doomed by this coming reality as the capital incentives to lay new commodity connections (w/o any premium service) is going to be pretty minimal (as Google Fiber has no doubt discovered and retreated from playing this game).

    2. Re: Hard to believe, but cable used to be AD-FREE by dfeifer · · Score: 2

      Atleast in my area that was one of the selling points for attracting people to cable and they used to have commercials about it. Commercial free that is.

    3. Re:Hard to believe, but cable used to be AD-FREE by sims+2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering CATV's origins it's surprising that next month we are considering dropping cable at work because we have 20+ tvs on display and not a single clear QAM channel. Suddenlink won't supply us with a single in the clear digital channel at any price but with a decent HDTV antenna we can run all 20+ tvs with a HD picture for the one time cost of the antenna.

      Fuzzy cable with 48 channels or HD digital with 4? Your picture quality impacts sales and all the tv's will be tuned to the same channel 99% of the time. What'dya think they're going to choose?

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  7. What about internet? by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In many school districts it's necessity. The last 4 years of my kid's public education all her homework was delivered online (the district couldn't afford books, budget cuts to go with the tax cuts).

    Also given the number of alternatives (online games, video games in general and tons and tons of streaming) there should be _downward_ pressure. That's not a sign of a healthy economy. That's a sign of a monopoly without any regulation.

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  8. Re:If people keep paying... by markdavis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They don't necessarily think it is worth the expense, in some cases they simply have no choice. Where I live, I have no other choice for [real] Internet access, period. So it doesn't matter what they charge, I pretty much "have" to pay it. Not everyone has the option (or desire) to "borrow" (more like "steal"?) Internet access like you can do. In fact, most don't.

    TV is somewhat less important [to most people, including me], but if you want quality content that is NOT on Netflix/whatever or over the air, again, you are stuck (think History Channel, Science Channel, NatGeo).

    About sports- that is a perfect example of one of the several causes TV is too expensive. I call it the "sports tax." Like you (and many others), I don't give a F*** about *any* sports. And, yet, a sizable amount of my cable bill dollars go directly to ESPN's pockets for their exorbitant licensing fees. And the cable TV companies act like it is a wonderful thing for everyone that we have access to 26 sports channels, and the golf channel, and 20 home shopping network channels, and 30 reality-tv-junk channels, and 18 non-English channels, and etc.

    Last time I complained to Cox about their latest series of price hikes, they had the nerve to tell me how wonderful a value their service is because it covers all the people in my house at no extra charge! I told them "Yeah, because, since I live alone, I guess should be terribly happy I am subsidizing it for all those multi-person households; such a great deal for me."

  9. Thank you Captain Obvious by p51d007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Explains why there are a lot of cord cutters. That, and about 75% of what you are forced to subscribe to is JUNK.

    1. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So what you're saying is, 25% of forced paid content is actually good? Wow, you are being really generous.

    2. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually this one is pretty simple. In 1995, there were 139 cable programming services (channels). By 2002 there were 280. The current list is over 1000 channels (though a bunch are east/west variants of the same channel).

      So basically we're paying 2x more for cable than 20 years ago, and getting 7x more content. Or in other words, the price per channel is less than 30% what it was 20 years ago. (Of course as you say, a lot of those channels are junk. So what we're paying per quality channel is debatable.)

  10. Nonsense by Mike · · Score: 2

    Inflation measured accurately, not heuristically, is way higher than 2-3%. See shadowstats.com

  11. Re:If people keep paying... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm just running on a borrowed internet connection.

    How does that work? Do you return the bandwidth when you're done using it?

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  12. Sports! by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    (I don't live in the US but have seen prices go up as well)
    Our HOA runs owns the cable in the ground for distributing cable TV and I am managing the contracts, technical aspects etc with the cable companies. This enables us to get a better deal for all who wants cable than what people get from their listed prices. The explanation we hear every time the prices go up, are because of the channels that have sports programming included that are responsible for the price hikes. These channels have a few popular TV shows, mixed in with very expensive soccer matches.
    So it is sports that costs the most, even when you leave out dedicated sports channels.
    More and more people are switching from the full package to the medium package or the small package(where people really should consider just getting those channels over the air). And people are also dropping the extra channels that you pay for individually.

    Personally I haven't had cable TV for 4 years(iirc) because I don't have any interest i sports and so cable tv with all the commercials are not really worth it for me.

    1. Re:Sports! by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      That used to be true but ESPN has been losing subscribers rapidly. And of course, the NFL (et al) is looking at alternate channels to deliver its content. Monetizing the viewers in some way or another, of course.

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  13. Monopoly Rent Seeking by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Informative

    In economics and in public-choice theory, rent-seeking involves seeking to increase one's share of existing wealth without creating new wealth. Rent-seeking results in reduced economic efficiency through poor allocation of resources, reduced actual wealth creation, lost government revenue, increased income inequality,[1] and (potentially) national decline.

    Attempts at capture of regulatory agencies to gain a coercive monopoly can result in advantages for the rent seeker in the market while imposing disadvantages on (incorrupt) competitors. The idea was originated by Gordon Tullock and the term was coined by Anne Krueger.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  14. Cable tv price by Sir+Lurkalot · · Score: 2

    With the programing available, $1 a month should cover it...

  15. Re:memories... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    High cable prices are the fault of manbearpig - I'm super serial guys.

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  16. hold on. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While costs go up over time, the capital delivery equipment is long taken care of. Our local system uses equipment designed and built in the 70's. It's still good stuff and quite capable, but was paid off long ago except for the new developments.

    More like the army of accountants need paid.

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  17. Pull the plug by xtal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't paid for TV in over a decade. I do pay for FTTH, I could get tv for "only" another $20 - no.

    Pound sand, Netflix will crush you all.

    Eventually the packets will get delegated a utility; the tremendous markup from content funds the inefficient monster that are the tier-1 broadband providers.

    Governments should own the infrastructure (fibers on poles). Companies should provide the service. That's the long term fix.

    It might not even matter if LTE gets fast and dense enough.. Will kids care?

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  18. The cycle repeats by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Frankly, the reason TV is being taken over by Netflix et al. has everything to do with getting rid of ads.

    True but they have to make it attractive to get people to take the plunge and switch. Wait another few years until Netflix starts to reach subscriber saturation and their revenues are no longer increasing due to growth. Then they will then try to start adding in the ads to increase their revenue and/or have over the rate of inflation price increases until the next technology comes along to make them obsolete and the cycle can begin again.

  19. Re:It SHOULD surpass the rate of inflation. by sjames · · Score: 2

    Unless, of course it's that they can no longer afford to go out, so they settle for cable.

    Of course there's a lot of cable cutting going on as well.

  20. Re:If people keep paying... by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >" If they are voluntarily paying it, they do."
    >" Gun to their head and all that?"

    OK, let's see how your logic works for:

    1) Electricity
    2) Gas
    3) City water
    4) City Sewer

    They don't have a "gun to your head" to pay for those, so it must be voluntary, right? I mean, you CAN live without any of those.... burn candles and wood, get bottled water, crap in a pail. Some services are necessary for reasonable modern living, and Internet is becoming one of those.

  21. Lots of other stuff too.. by bored · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Housing, schooling, medical. It may not have gone up each year but averaged over any length of time their numbers are significant. Which makes one question the fundamental weighting of the inflation indexes.

    My own personal inflation indexes are probably 3x what the published one is. Particularly if one breaks out the "wants" vs "needs". In the US its basically impossible to be a nomad or farm public/common land. So, I need a house, I need gas to drive to work, and I need to eat something that isn't McDonalds. If it weren't for the fact that I'm now one of the "privileged computer engineers" I would be living paycheck to paycheck unable to afford a new dishwasher when the old one broke. The particularly damming thing, is that because of this basic cost of labor/etc many things in the US have become so expensive that hiring someone to fix a car/reroof a house/etc can easily cost days of my inflated pay rates. (A new root installed by 4 guys on my house in two days can cost more than 2 months of net salary). Retail rents in front the wamart in the not so great part of town can easily exceed $15 a square foot.

    There are people getting insanely rich from all this, its just none of us actually working for a living.

  22. don't subscribe but by gumbi+west · · Score: 2

    subscribers, only you can kill cable.

  23. We just cut cable except by Ranger · · Score: 2

    for cable internet because it's the only game in town that has decent speed where I live. We have Netflix, Amazon Prime, a large DVD/Blu-ray library, and an amplified indoor HDTV antenna that gets all the channels I want. I plan to install an outdoor antenna later. I'm probably going to end up getting HBO's streaming service in the not too distant future. Still cheaper than cable TV. There's also a lot of free programming on YouTube as well.

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  24. Re:If people keep paying... by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    I don't like paying for clothes, yet I find I am forced to, even if they don't have a gun to my head.

    What did people that think like you do before there were clothing stores?

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  25. Re:If people keep paying... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

    Slightly OT, but amusing. My 82 y/o mother says she doesn't need the internet. Then she asks me to order something for her online. :) I also set up an email for her so she could get a price reduction from someplace. Even someone with no computer uses the internet! :)

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