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Online Pranksters Mock Trump's $149 Christmas Ornament, Rename Trump Tower on Google Maps (yahoo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a Digital Trends story about a suspicious malfunction on Google Maps: At some point yesterday, Donald Trump's Fifth Avenue home was given a rather unceremonious rechristening, and a search for "Trump Tower" revealed a pin for "Dump Tower" instead. It was rather tricky to find for some, and required zooming in on the building itself at just the right angle (which is perhaps how the culprit got away with the stunt in the first place). At a separate angle, someone else (or perhaps the same person) transliterated the skyscraper's name in Russian Cyrillic, perhaps meant to be a jab at Trump's alleged ties to President Vladimir Putin and company... While the team [at Google Maps] managed to put out this first fire, another quickly arose to take its place (as is often the case on the internet), and later in the day on Saturday, Trump International Hotel and Tower in Columbus Circle was renamed Dump International Hotel and Tower. Meanwhile, another anonymous reader writes: Earlier this week Donald Trump emailed his supporters selling a $149 collectible "Make America Great Again" Christmas ornament finished with 14k gold, to raise money for both his campaign and the Republican party. But Yahoo News reports that it's now getting some suspicious negative (and politically-charged) reviews on its page on Amazon. ("One Star. "It tried to put my nativity figures into an internment camp.") And another reviewer even wrote a satirical story about how their family decided on the ornament for the tree. "During our family meeting we overwhelmingly chose the other ornament but somehow we still ended up with this one. We're not sure what happened."

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  1. Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Hillary lost. Get over it.

    1. Re: Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >>Interesting definition of lost, with over 2M more popular votes than Buzz had. Well, he warned us the election was rigged.

      You're that guy who thinks he's won an rts because he's collected more resources despite having all his units destroyed.

    2. Re:Crybabies by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, he warned us the election was rigged.

      He did warn you. And you called him a "Pants on Fire" liar for it. Suck it up, cupcakes...

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    3. Re:Crybabies by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Rise by hacking, fall by hacking. Suckit Rump!

    4. Re:Crybabies by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If there are that many illegal immigrants voting, shouldn't we have a nationwide recount to weed them out?

      (For the record, I don't think there are that many illegal immigrants voting and I'm not really in favor of the recount. If Jill Stein can fund it with donations, fine, but otherwise I don't think things were close enough. As much as I hate Trump, I've accepted that he's going to be President and I'm moving forward to help mitigate the damage I think he'll do. I just think that the argument that "we shouldn't have a recount" doesn't jive with the "millions voted illegally so Trump really won the popular vote" story - which has no actual evidence backing it.)

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    5. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Never Happens

      http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cbs4-investigation-finds-dead-voters-casting-ballots-in-colorado/

      That's clearly a right-wing, biased publication, no?

    6. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When they are reporting things that make the Left look bad they are a Rightwing news source.

      When they are reporting things that make the Right look bad they are a Leftwing news source.

      Facts don't matter to either side.

    7. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The figure is 1.9M and likely to still climb a little due to California counting.

      http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president

    8. Re:Crybabies by Rei · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Oh my god - four cases in Colorado in the past decade. THEY'RE DESTROYING DEMOCRACY!

      Meanwhile, pay not attention to Crosscheck, removing tens of thousands of voters per state that uses it from the voting rolls, most shortly before the election, based on a method that disproportionately hits african-americans, asians, and hispanics.

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    9. Re:Crybabies by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative
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    10. Re:Crybabies by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes I do, and yes they vote. I don't blame him for trying to escape mexico , but illegals shouldn't be voting.

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    11. Re: Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This attitude, I don't get.

      The participants (that includes the voters) knew the rules before the game. They agreed on the rules, or, at least, there wasn't much complaining before. They played by the rules and the one some people wanted didn't win.

      Now suddenly, the rules are bad? That's kind of a sore loser attitude.

      Just accept that Trump won and try to make the best of it. And maybe you can start working on fixing the rules for the next match in 4 years or so (if, indeed you believe they need fixing).

    12. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And we were objectively right to call him that. You agree with us, even though you don't want to.

    13. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If there are that many illegal immigrants voting, shouldn't we have a nationwide recount to weed them out?

      We can't weed them out with a recount because it's a private ballot. At best we might be able to figure out how many illegal votes were cast by interviewing everyone who's marked as voting and verifying that they really did. It's why Voter ID is important - either we eliminate the private ballot (a horrible idea) and allow votes to be recounted with illegal voters removed, or we catch illegal voters before they vote, using Voter ID.

      The simple reality is that the reason so few people are caught committing voter fraud is because there are no systems in place to catch them. It's like how there's no evidence Hillary's email server was ever hacked - there's no evidence because they wiped the systems clean, so there's no evidence to even check. We can't know how bad the problem is until we start taking measures to account for it.

    14. Re:Crybabies by quantaman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Only if you count illegals. We have no idea what the vote count would be if you didn't count illegitimate votes in California, which is where her lead is coming from.

      So not only do you think there were millions of illegal voters, but you think these millions of people are in such an effective air-tight conspiracy that not one of them is willing to spill the beans. And they performed this conspiracy, which risked jail time and/or deportation for every person involved, to run up the score in a state in which Clinton would have won anyway.

      That is literally an insane idea.

      The simply reality is that the US doesn't bother trying to account for voter fraud because the Electoral College makes it mostly pointless.

      Which is why GOP politicians go on massive hunts looking for voter fraud after every election, and never comes up with anything but a small handful of people who were just confused.

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    15. Re:Crybabies by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If there are that many illegal immigrants voting, shouldn't we have a nationwide recount to weed them out?

      That's unrealistic. The only people who work landscaping these days are Latinos. Why would they weed out their own votes?

    16. Re:Crybabies by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Never Happens

      http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cbs4-investigation-finds-dead-voters-casting-ballots-in-colorado/

      That's clearly a right-wing, biased publication, no?

      Broerman said after their deaths, the Sosas remained on active voter rolls and mail ballots were still sent to their home because they did not meet the criteria to have their names deleted from eligible voter rolls.

      Notice how mail-in ballots, the one voting method where voter fraud is actually very easy to commit, is never a target of GOP efforts to combat voter fraud?

      I wonder why?

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    17. Re:Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's nothing about the last election that should be 'gotten over'. Everything that's wrong with modern politics and America happened there. I would have said that either way regardless of who won the presidential election.

    18. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      Yes, now even Trump agrees the election was rigged and is off by million of votes. So obviously it needs to be nullified and repeated.

    19. Re:Crybabies by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 2

      The thing is, whenever anyone criticizes trump or even questions whether he has conflicts of interest with his businesses the standard reply has become "B-b-b-b-b-but Hillary!".

      We know Clinton lost the election. Get over it!

      If you look anywhere online the standard response is "Hillary lost, get over it." Hey, we weren't even talking about her. Why do trump supporters keep bringing her up?

    20. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My wife tried to vote absentee from Canada, her last residence was in NC. She never received a ballot or any other follow-up.

    21. Re:Crybabies by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And yet many more than 4 votes probably stolen by the other side, no? We know, your side is pure and angelic, never cheating, never stooping low, and the other side is the definition of evil, and so cunning they can corrupt the system without it ever being detected.

      Politics is easy if you can just divide it all up into good versus evil. No need to think about complex issues or learn how to get along with friends and family with differing viewpoints.

    22. Re:Crybabies by mi · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, now even Trump agrees the election was rigged and is off by million of votes.

      Except, he thinks, he would've won even more — which is not, what you believe at all.

      So obviously it needs to be nullified and repeated.

      Sorry, there are no Constitutional provisions for that.

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    23. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 1, Interesting

      LOL. You know Trump's source for saying this was a conspiracy nut job blog that just made shit up, right?

      And that the vast majority of voter fraud was GOP led in NC, IN, WI. Documented even.

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    24. Re:Crybabies by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      No actual evidence backing it... sounds like GWII to me.

    25. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He's just copying Trump's tweet from tonight. Yes, Trump actually believes this. It's from a conspiracy nut job blog who makes shit up.

      He's trying to invalidate our system of government. Blinding people with bullshit.

      Sadly, it works. At least enough to get to president-elect.

      But he hasn't passed the EC yet, and they most definitely are watching him.

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    26. Re:Crybabies by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

      Civil war veterans in NC
      http://thefederalist.com/2016/...

      There's plenty more, how much over the reports nobody knows because the Democrats spent decades making it impossible to find out.

    27. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And Trump's trying the old 'stir shit up redirect' because of the NYT coming out with comprehensive article describing Trump's world wide conflicts of interest.

      http://boingboing.net/2016/11/...

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11...

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    28. Re:Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      You can tell how insecure the alt right really are when even victory can't prevent them from casting conspiracy theories.

      Dont worry little delicate snowflake, the Electoral College will elect Trump.

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    29. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      Except, he thinks, he would've won even more.

      Well, that's nice for him, unfortunately now that we have his word for it, that it was rigged, we clearly can't be sure without a do-over.

      Sorry, there are no Constitutional provisions for that.

      Rules are for losers. But not a man like Trump.

    30. Re: Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Strictly speaking the rules are that the Electoral College picks the President, and the Constitution gives very few rules as to how they do that. Now I think the EC picking someone other than Trump would be an even worse disaster than picking Trump, but let's be clear as to what the rules actually are. And let's also be clear that Trump's vast international business network poses a potential Constitutional crisis if he doesn't divest himself of it soon.

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    31. Re:Crybabies by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Interesting definition of lost, with over 2M more popular votes than Buzz had. Well, he warned us the election was rigged.

      Only if you count illegals.

      Yes, that is Trump's latest tweeted claim, that he would have won the popular vote if millions of illegals hadn't voted.

      And where is his evidence for that? Oh wait, here we go.

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    32. Re: Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Since when has anyone who is not an Obama critic been concerned with a Constitutional crisis?

      For crying out loud, our current President negotiated a treaty with a hostile foreign power with no consent from the Senate! He just created it out of thin air, and worse, the Senate just rolled over and let him do it!

      And you're worried about Trump's business interests and what that "could" do? What the hell.

    33. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

      Guess what?

      Federal bribery does!!

      Business deals for trade deals is ... wait for it ... bribery!

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    34. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 2

      Well he didn't accept the voting results. In his own words millions of illegal votes were cast.

      So I am right there with him. This is very upsetting. We need a do over. I suggest Obama declares a state of emergency until we can figure this out.

    35. Re:Crybabies by capebretonsux · · Score: 1

      Oh the irony of your opinion given your nick....

    36. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 2

      I don't think people like you get it. If the election were repeated Trump's win would be monumental.

      C'mon, it'll be fun!

      And this way the rest of the world doesn't have to mull over the uncertainty if Trump was just an electoral accident, or if he actually reflects a batshit crazy electorate.

      I am all for clarity.

    37. Re:Crybabies by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Do your calling for the arrest of Hilary Clinton then.

      Of course not. Laws don't apply to the left.

      There is nothing in that Washington Post article about any law broken by Hillary Clinton or the Clinton foundation.

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    38. Re:Crybabies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It would have been more fun if the harridan had won.

    39. Re:Crybabies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      C'mon, it'll be fun!

      Do you promise to wear your brown shirt.

      And those cool cuff-links?

    40. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      We are not a banana republic. Get that through your head.

      LOL. Thanks for making my day.

    41. Re: Crybabies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Since when has anyone who is not an Obama critic been concerned with a Constitutional crisis?

      Duh! The election didn't go the way the it was supposed to. Obviously there will now be Constitutional crises.

    42. Re:Crybabies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      And Trump will appoint two, maybe three Supreme Court Justices.

      Suck on it, brother.

    43. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      You mistake me for alt-right.

    44. Re: Crybabies by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since when has anyone who is not an Obama critic been concerned with a Constitutional crisis?

      For crying out loud, our current President negotiated a treaty with a hostile foreign power with no consent from the Senate! He just created it out of thin air, and worse, the Senate just rolled over and let him do it!

      If a President negotiates a treaty with a foreign power, that is not a Constitutional crisis. Quite the contrary: under the constitution, that's his job. And it's the job of the Senate to ratify such a treaty with a supermajority. I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Senate is not in the picture.

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    45. Re:Crybabies by KeensMustard · · Score: 2

      So he was lying?

    46. Re: Crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's plenty more, how much over the reports nobody knows because the Democrats spent decades making it impossible to find out.

      So what you're saying is that the Republican governor and legislatures of North Carolina are unable to fix this alleged problem.

      Huh.

      Of course, too bad for you the real story turned out to be errors in their own system, and failing to account for family members with the same name.

      Maybe if they hadn't wasted trillions of dollars imposing mandatory medical inspections before using the restroom. Trillions I tell you. Even NASCAR is thinking of moving.

    47. Re:Crybabies by Z80a · · Score: 1

      Given the fact everyone knew what game was being played, as in the candidates, the population, the parties..., they all made their strategies and decisions around the electoral college system.
      People decided to go or not go vote based on how important their state was, parties fine tuned the gig around which states they could win and even used supercomputers to optimize the path etc..
      So basically, they all played this game of chess, and you now want to judge it by checkers rules.
      If it was for popular votes, everyone involved would take a different approach and the outcome would be different, maybe with Hillary winning this time or maybe not.

    48. Re:Crybabies by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 2

      Well, yes, the electoral will vote as indicated despite death threats because the trusted by both sides selects them.

      Unfortunately, Hillary - despite her election rhetoric

      http://dailycaller.com/2016/11...

      Is going to be just as stupid as gore was

      http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...

      And Gosh, where did the money come from for the 1% green party to challenge the vote come from?

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    49. Re:Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1, Funny

      Looking forward to restarting your local Klan chapter, I see

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    50. Re:Crybabies by grcumb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Russian Jews sent my still living uncle to a gulag back before WW2....

      That's the strangest spelling for 'communist'[*] I've ever seen.

      ...we don't hate the jews, we just wish stupid people like you learned a bit more about history.

      Why, because it would save you the trouble of learning actual history?

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    51. Re:Crybabies by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Conflict of interest laws don't apply to the president

      That doesn't change the fact that they're conflicts of interest. Or that they should be a concern.

      Of course Trump says "the President can't have a conflict of interest." And Nixon said "if the President does it, then it's not illegal."

      So we're fine, right? Wrong.

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    52. Re: Crybabies by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

      Being unable to change isn't the same thing as accepting. In virtually every poll, people have supported the idea of the national popular vote by a large margin, but as long as the party in control of most states benefits from the current system, they're not going to change the laws.

      Why don't voters just elect new representatives? Because of project REDMAP. The GOP has been funneling money disproportionately to down-ballot state races to gain governors and state congressional majorities, and from there, appoint friendly justices, gerrymander the district maps, and change voting laws to entrench Republican control, ensuring future victories even with a minority of votes. It's a deliberate nationwide effort to override the votes of a steadily increasing Democrat majority, through local representatives bought and paid for and beholden to the national party.

      This isn't a conspiracy theory; this is straight from the GOP:

      As the 2010 Census approached, the RSLC began planning for the subsequent election cycle, formulating a strategy to keep or win Republican control of state legislatures with the largest impact on congressional redistricting as a result of reapportionment. That effort, the REDistricting MAjority Project (REDMAP), focused critical resources on legislative chambers in states projected to gain or lose congressional seats in 2011 based on Census data.

      The rationale was straightforward: Controlling the redistricting process in these states would have the greatest impact on determining how both state legislative and congressional district boundaries would be drawn. Drawing new district lines in states with the most redistricting activity presented the opportunity to solidify conservative policymaking at the state level and maintain a Republican stronghold in the U.S. House of Representatives for the next decade.

      After REDMAP’s success on Election Day 2010, Republicans held majorities in 10 of the 15 states that gained or lost U.S. House seats and where the legislature played a role in redrawing the state legislative and congressional district map. In the 70 congressional districts that were labeled by National Public Radio as “competitive” in 2010, Republicans controlled the redrawing of at least 47 of those districts; Democrats were responsible for 15, and a non-partisan process determined eight.

      REDMAP’s effect on the 2012 election is plain when analyzing the results: Pennsylvanians cast 83,000 more votes for Democratic U.S. House candidates than their Republican opponents, but elected a 13-5 Republican majority to represent them in Washington; Michiganders cast over 240,000 more votes for Democratic congressional candidates than Republicans, but still elected a 9-5 Republican delegation to Congress. Nationwide, Republicans won 54 percent of the U.S. House seats, along with 58 of 99 state legislative chambers, while winning only 8 of 33 U.S. Senate races and carrying only 47.8 percent of the national presidential vote.

      Republicans enjoy a 33-seat margin in the U.S. House seated yesterday in the 113th Congress, having endured Democratic successes atop the ticket and over one million more votes cast for Democratic House candidates than Republicans.

      You can read more from their old site: http://www.redistrictingmajori...
      Or see the results here: http://rslc.gop/map-center/
      And yes, it's still going: http://rslc.gop/blog/2015/07/1...

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    53. Re: Crybabies by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      "New Math"

    54. Re: Crybabies by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      So Republicans are playing to the rules and Democrats are stupid idealists who think that putting enough of themselves in one place (California) will somehow get them the Presidency.

      Sounds about right.

    55. Re:Crybabies by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      But why do you even think that's the "right way" to do it? Surely residents should have a fair say in any election. The problem regarding "illegals" is not whether they can vote or not, it's whether they're in the country in the first place. Actually, I'll go a step further, the fundamental problem is that everyone in the US is so quick to point the finger at illegals, yet I rarely (if ever) hear any talk of prosecuting those businesses that hire them.

      Anyway, for what it's worth, I'd rather support a system that allowed anyone living locally to vote, while denying anyone living outside of the country (citizen or not) from voting.

    56. Re:Crybabies by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1, Funny

      He's a real troll. Not an imposter.

    57. Re:Crybabies by whodunit · · Score: 1

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...

      Gee look what I found!

    58. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      All these years we thought republicans were making up the crap about voter fraud... turn's out they weren't fantasising - they were projecting !

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    59. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      When one party is running a blatant ethno-nationalist fascist - when the countries with most experience of fascist dictators are warning you "hey - this guy looks and sounds EXACTLY like those evil fucks who took over our countries in the 1920s looked"... yeah, then it really has become a simple question of good and evil.

      Or at the very least - of minor nuisances versus unspeakable horror.

      Sometimes - the reason there is no nuance in the debate - is because there is nothing nuanced about the situation. You elected orange hitler. Stop trying to pretend you did anything less, and seriously - stop telling us that we don't know who he is or what kind of leader he will be. Stop expecting us to just forget the campaign, to pretend nothing he said and did up to this point was said or done.Stop asking us to assume he won't be as evil as he said he will be.

      If he suddenly decides not to be evil - then we'll admit that in 4 years after he's been in power and not evil. We're not giving him the benefit of hte doubt because there is no reason to doubt. In a year there might be - but that is the one in a trillion hope right now, make no mistake I AM hoping for that, but I'd be an idiot to bet on it.

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    60. Re: Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      NASCAR is pretty pissed off because the governor has proposed a law to ban automatic cars from stick-shift parking spaces.

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    61. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      It was never closed. He's looking forward to being able to not having to lynchmob in secret anymore.

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    62. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      You gotta admit they are consistent. Before the election they said it was going to be rigged. Now that it's over they are still saying it was rigged - even though their guy won !

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    63. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Not to mention - that federal law may not apply to the president - but the constitution does, and his particular conflicts almost certainly violate the emoluments clause.

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    64. Re:Crybabies by Tesen · · Score: 1

      Guess what?

      Federal bribery does!!

      Business deals for trade deals is ... wait for it ... bribery!

      Do your calling for the arrest of Hilary Clinton then.

      Of course not. Laws don't apply to the left.

      Please provide citations for this; what laws did she break? Other than one donation which the foundation should have gotten approval for based on a gentlemen s handshake between Clinton and the Obama Administration. Of course you cannot backup your claim.

    65. Re: Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      "So Republicans are abusing loopholes in the system to undermine the democratic process"

      FTFY.

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    66. Re:Crybabies by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Hey, I've heard about sore losers, but sore winners? That's a new one

    67. Re:Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      The emoluments clause of the constitution DOES apply to the president and makes conflicts of interest not just a crime but a constitutional violation that makes him unfit for office.

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    68. Re:Crybabies by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      I can tell you're quite incensed from your line of questions.

      But none of the issues you have raised reflect actual objections to making residency a requirement for voting. If you understood anything about residency you will find that it is already clearly defined in many countries.

    69. Re:Crybabies by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's why Voter ID is important - either we eliminate the private ballot (a horrible idea) and allow votes to be recounted with illegal voters removed, or we catch illegal voters before they vote, using Voter ID.

      Requiring voter ID is acceptable in states where they actually do make it trivial to get a no-cost ID. If the state wants to force me to have it, the state needs to pay for it. Anything else is slavery. Which, by the way, is why the ACA is unacceptable. It is slavery.

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    70. Re:Crybabies by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      Let me get this straight... An illegal immigrant can register to vote, and nobody checks whether or not he's a US citizen?

      When I'm on vacation in the US, can I register to vote using my hotel address and then actually vote for your president?

      Mind blown. Maybe it's because I'm European.

    71. Re:Crybabies by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What you need is a clarification election. Same as we need in the UK after Brexit.

      People voted for Trump. Trump didn't announce that his team would include white supremacists and other awful before before hand. Seems like that's not what everyone who voted for him wanted, so maybe you should have another vote now the situation is clearer.

      In the UK people voted to leave the EU. Didn't say anything about the single market or freedom of movement or what kind of trading deals we would create or if we would give up Gibraltar or about breaking up the UK. So once that lot becomes clear, we should have another referendum to see if we want to proceed, or if we want something else.

      Next time make the candidates state exactly what they want to do and who they plan to use, and make it legally binding.

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    72. Re:Crybabies by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      The popular vote totals are crap. Just looking at handful of smaller Virgina counties you can come up with 60K in ineligible voters. https://publicinterestlegal.or...

      While I don't think there is any hard data behind Trump's claim he would win the popular vote if not for ineligible voters, its certainly plausible. If 60K can come from a handful of counties. Election integrity and security in this country is a joke. Just imagine how many ineligible votes come for CA!

      The Democratic party is only working to make it worse. They have some legitimate concerns about disenfranchising some elderly and poor voters, but rather than come up with intelligent solutions to those problems like, make state IDs available free to retired persons (drawing Social Security) or persons public assistance (SS disability or maybe SNAP) and say making election day a holiday so people can get to the polls while open, they basically stone wall any effort. The reason I can only assume is because they are courting illegal residing aliens, who are by definition not eligible to vote as a constituency.

      I do think there have been some state level GOP lead efforts to bias elections in their favor by blocking eligible voters, and that a shame, but its no more or less shameful than the DNC lead attack on election integrity.

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    73. Re: Crybabies by Entrope · · Score: 1

      Conservatives support absentee ballots because that's how active duty service members vote. The only question is why we make it easy for many other people, or even (as in Oregon) mandatory.

      Why does Dem-controlled Oregon want to mandate voting by such an easily cheated system?

    74. Re:Crybabies by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      His team does not include them now! Or if it does you have so watered down the definition that its really insulting to all the legitimate victims of racism through the ages.

      Seriously there are as many racially charged skeletons in the closets of Clinton herself and most of her staff as in those of Trump or anyone on his team. A certain segment of the left just screams bigot and racist at anyone whose ideas differ from their own and larger section of the unthinking public just accepts the charge as factual.

      Its pathetic, and part of why Trump won is a big group of people myself included are tired of it.

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    75. Re: Crybabies by Entrope · · Score: 2

      If you can prove your identity and residential address well enough to get a driver's license (the exact criteria vary by state), and you check the box on that paperwork certifying that you are a citizen and you wish to be registered to vote, you will be registered to vote.

      The "Motor Voter Act" requires all states to do that, and to have a similar checkbox for many applications for public assistance (food stamps, Medicaid, housing, etc.).

      The Supreme Court ruled that states cannot require evidence of citizenship beyond the federal requirements of the applicant checking the box and signing the form.

    76. Re:Crybabies by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Its a secret ballot though, because we have no serious authentication around ballot access you can't detect ineligible votes cast with a recount. They only way you could detect is if you had a higher vote total than the number of eligible voters, which we also don't know because no county is ever allowed to clean up its voter rolls. While many of those efforts have been 'problematic' its still a job that needs doing. Next you have the fact that not everyone votes. So if 10K eligible voters in $COUNTY abstain, and 5K ineligible voters cast ballots, you have no visibility, it could certainly effect the election, but you can't show anything wrong happened.

      The ONLY thing a recount can tell us about is simple tabulation errors, it can't say jack about the integrity of the election because we don't have enough forensic evidence to paint much of a picture of who voted and for whom. We don't really even have ballpark knowledge of what reasonable values for totals should be.

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    77. Re:Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I can understand the Evangelicals and Conservative Catholics cheering, since there's some small chance that a Conservative court might throw out Roe v Wade, but really what exactly is a conservative court going to do for the Alt-right? Get rid of civil rights laws so it's okay to refuse business to African-Americans or gays? Do they imagine that a conservative Supreme Court will somehow force society to accept a pack of loudmouthed racists, force employers to ignore their outbursts?

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    78. Re: Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Over twenty states have no faithless elector laws, and those that do in general only levy a very small fine against a faithless elector. In other words, what you have here is a constitutional convention, and constitutional conventions last as long as everyone agrees they should. If enough electors were to select another candidate, other than some of them being fined, then that person becomes President. Clearly Trump and his supporters feel nervous enough about all of this to declare that he really won an actual majority of the popular vote, in an attempt to argue that the electors should abide by the public will.

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    79. Re: Crybabies by swillden · · Score: 2

      Since when has anyone who is not an Obama critic been concerned with a Constitutional crisis?

      For crying out loud, our current President negotiated a treaty with a hostile foreign power with no consent from the Senate! He just created it out of thin air, and worse, the Senate just rolled over and let him do it!

      If a President negotiates a treaty with a foreign power, that is not a Constitutional crisis. Quite the contrary: under the constitution, that's his job. And it's the job of the Senate to ratify such a treaty with a supermajority. I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Senate is not in the picture.

      Actually, the Senate doesn't ratify most treaties with a supermajority. We rarely use that process. Normally what we do is to enact the terms of the treaty as ordinary federal law, with simple majorities in both houses and a signature from the president. This process produces what's called a "congressional executive treaty".

      It should also be pointed out that the president can and does sign many treaties without the participation of either house. He does this when the terms of the treaty can be enacted entirely on his own authority, for example as Commander in Chief. The most common example of this sort of treaty (called a "sole executive treaty") are the Status of Forces Agreements (SoFA) that are signed with the various countries who host US military bases. These agreements specify how the US forces will interact with the host country and because the Commander in Chief has the power to tell the US military what to do, the president can simply sign them.

      Of course, the president can sign anything he likes, but if the treaty obligations exceed his authority, then he needs Congress to weigh in, either a simply majority of both houses or a 2/3 majority of the Senate.

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    80. Re: Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I think you'd better read the Constitution again.

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    81. Re:Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      it is the Emoluments Clause (Article 1 Section 9 Clause 8) which is where Trump's troubles lie. In reality, he should have divested his control of his international business interests months or even a year ago.

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    82. Re:Crybabies by avgjoe62 · · Score: 1

      Funny, when I vote they check my ID, then check the list of registered voters to see if I am on the roll and the address matches. They even record what voter I am at that polling station (this year I was number 68). So they know that I am registered and that I voted and even roughly when I voted, based on my number. That information is what both parties use to get out the vote and contact registered voters that have actually gone to the polls.

      It is a secret ballot only in terms of who I voted for, not if I voted. Your lack of knowledge of how this process works shows me just how much you have voted in your life.

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    83. Re:Crybabies by Rei · · Score: 1

      No no, you don't understand, Tofu Palin is just trying to "hold both parties accountable", or something like that.

      You sound stressed. Perhaps you could use a homeopathic spirulina shake?

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    84. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      For anyone who cries 'she did it too'.

      THAT'S NOT A VALID OR LEGAL DEFENSE

      Bunch of fuckwits.

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    85. Re:Crybabies by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I lean Democrat on many things, but I am still OK with conservative Supreme Court nominations. The idea of legislating from the bench bothers me, and violates the separation of powers to too great of a degree - Republicans tend to support stricter interpretation of the Constitution. I don't agree with either side typically, and I want both R&D empowered enough to keep each other in check, but no more.

    86. Re:Crybabies by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Funny, I wonder if you know that each state runs its own elections and rules vary widely from state to state. Had you not had ID I bet they would have let you cast a provisional ballot!

      No that is NOT that list the local parties use for GOTY efforts. I have volunteered doing IT work for my local party. There is the registered voter list and a separate list of people who they believe are still residents for real, and third list of people they actually expect will vote.

      Finally it other than the if you voted part all my points remain! We can't tie your ballot to you, at least not any place where I have been involved. So you could detect if more ballots were cast than people who signed in, but you can't correct the error. You don't which ballots to discard. You can go back and audit the rolls of who signed in but again you can't correct any errors if you find an ineligible voter you don't know which ballot to discard.

      Recounts do not for that reason usually result in a voter roll audit, you'd need other legal challenges for that. So again the ONLY thing a recount is going to do for us is identify tabulation errors. Its really a big waste of time.

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    87. Re:Crybabies by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      No, it was because they wanted the land. If they wanted your home, you were "resettled", if they wanted your livestock they would replace it with watermelons. If they wanted your wife they would simply rape her. If someone fought back, they would kill them and dump them in the middle of town so they could find the others that needed to be punished since they showed emotion after seeing their dead family member.

      Try talking to people that actually lived thru those times. I have. My grandparents and family from Lithuania, Australia, and America - separated simply because they had what the russian jews wanted.

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    88. Re: Crybabies by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      NASCAR is pretty pissed off because the governor has proposed a law to ban automatic cars from stick-shift parking spaces.

      As a non-American, I'm not sure if this is a joke.

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    89. Re:Crybabies by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I'm going to try the OP's tactic in other contexts: "You got cancer, get over it", "Your baby died, get over it", "You got hit by a car and you're bleeding to death in the middle of the street in agonizing pain, get over it".

      Let's see if it's seen as appropriate in the same way as "A Fascist just won the election and is about to be the President of your country, get over it" is.

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    90. Re:Crybabies by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      Only if you count illegals. .

      [citation needed] Take all the time you want.

    91. Re:Crybabies by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      And Trump's trying the old 'stir shit up redirect'

      The proper name is the Dead Cat Strategy (after a story about a CEO who threw a dead cat on the board room table after disappointing quarterly numbers were announced), and it's actually Trump's second-favorite technique next to bald-faced lies, he used it regularly throughout the election.

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    92. Re:Crybabies by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Which is why GOP politicians go on massive hunts looking for voter fraud after every election, and never comes up with anything but a small handful of people who were just confused.

      Riiight.. they were just "confused". That must be it.

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    93. Re:Crybabies by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I don't think there is that much variation between left-leaning and right-leaning judges "legislating from the bench", it just tends that one group is fine when a like-minded court goes in their favor, but is angered when an oppositional court does not. To some extent, notions of "left" and "right" mean somewhat different things in legal terms.

      But all of this really begs the question as to how likely it is that something like Roe v. Wade would be thrown out by a theoretical conservative court. Let's remember here that Roe v Wade itself is built atop rulings like Griswold v. Connecticut and Eisenstadt v. Baird, and that these rulings are also the bedrock of Lawrence v. Texas. Now I'm sure there are any number of Evangelicals, Conservative Catholics and like-minded groups who would love to see all these rulings knocked down, but just how many of those who voted for Trump, or even for many downticket republicans, would want to have sodomy recriminalized, abortion banned, and contraceptives limited just to married couples?

      That's what I don't really understand. Whatever most of the alt-right are, damned few of them actually seem to be social conservatives, so do they really want a social conservative Supreme Court, or is this just part of their whole contrarian schtick, where if a liberal President or RINO President did something, it must therefore automatically be wrong?

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    94. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      You guys are too funny. The concept that a US citizens could be living outside the country doesn't even compute for you.

    95. Re: Crybabies by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Many democrats did this exact thing in 2001, Bush/Gore. They actually pushed for a retroactive change, (AKA cheating). If it weren't for the electoral college, most major cities would decide the election for the entirety of the country every single time, and full representation would be a thing of the past.
      If a two party system isn't bad enough, that'd usher in a permanent one party country (Dem) with a monolithic, centralized, all powerful federal government: USA: Urban Socialists (of the) Americas.

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    96. Re: Crybabies by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the improvement.

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    97. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      You've got a point there.

    98. Re: Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Its a joke intended to illustrate the ridiculousness of the infamous North Carolina bathroom joke.

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    99. Re: Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      S/joke/law/g

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    100. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      Would be nice if it'll work that way.

    101. Re:Crybabies by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      We are a Union of States. She lost the states. That's just the way this cookie crumble. You can't just pander to California and New York. You can't ignore and abuse major parts of the electorate.

      HELL, she couldn't even carry Florida.

      How sad is that? A state full of people that Trump allegedly ravaged.

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    102. Re:Crybabies by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Yeah... because Hitler was nothing more than someone that said mean things.

      Just because other liberal morons are jumping on the pile doesn't make it any more legitimate. If anyone is engaging in the fascist tactics, it's those that try to portray dissent as hate crime.

      THIS is why absolute free speech is a must.

      Attempts to "be nice" will quickly devolve into blatant censorship of facts and views that "the party" doesn't approve of.

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    103. Re:Crybabies by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Bullshit. It was the communist party. They stole from everyone, including the Jews. Jews had NOTHING to do with it. Your grandparents are just raging bigots.

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    104. Re:Crybabies by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      It's acceptable anywhere.

      What you are whining about is putting people out. The problem is that EVERYONE is put out by getting a proper ID. It's just that most of us already do it for our JOBS. So using it for voting is redundant.

      While the clear intent of voter ID laws is clearly racist voter suppression, it really only discourages the "can't be bothered" crowd. The answer is not to whine about how things are unfair but to tell people to get off their lazy asses.

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    105. Re:Crybabies by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      > Not to mention - that federal law may not apply to the president - but the constitution does, and his particular conflicts almost certainly violate the emoluments clause.

      That claim is pretty thin bordering on laughable.

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    106. Re:Crybabies by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      Sorry, and by the way, I don't hate jews.

      But it was. So much so that when the Nazi's rolled in, the lithuanians who had victims of the soviet jews, merrily pointed them out for a little "relocation" of their own. You might want to look into what happened in Ponary.

      It's all recent history, poorly taught in schools (mostly because the focus is on the victims of the death camps, rather than the forces that lead up to an evil regime that struck back).

      But it happened. And arguably, it's happening again. Altho it isn't the Jews this time around.

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    107. Re: Crybabies by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Nonody gives a fuck about 'mean things' when you promise politics straight out if the nuremberg laws though only an idiot would NOT assume you intend to do what those laws led to.

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    108. Re:Crybabies by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      I went and got a link for you, just in case you're interested.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    109. Re:Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Well, if you look at the vote totals, eliminating Cook County (Chicago) and Los Angeles would put Trump way over the top in terms of popular vote. Lots of immigrants in both areas, and lots of illegals in LA.

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    110. Re:Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Not that I think there's any evidence, either, but there are only 2 counties in the entire country that gave Hillary the larger popular vote. One is Cook County, where Chicago is, and Chicago is well-known for voter fraud (just check out the evidence from the JFK election). The other is Los Angeles County, CA, a large area with a lot of undocumented immigrants.

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    111. Re: Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Thanks to only two counties.

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    112. Re:Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Difference in Cook County and Los Angeles: 1,903,356

      While you may not like the way the states elect the president via the Electoral College, it's superior to having 2-3 cities decide for the whole country.

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    113. Re: Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Since when has anyone who is not an Obama critic been concerned with a Constitutional crisis?

      For crying out loud, our current President negotiated a treaty with a hostile foreign power with no consent from the Senate! He just created it out of thin air, and worse, the Senate just rolled over and let him do it!

      If a President negotiates a treaty with a foreign power, that is not a Constitutional crisis. Quite the contrary: under the constitution, that's his job. And it's the job of the Senate to ratify such a treaty with a supermajority. I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Senate is not in the picture.

      Well the Senate was certainly not in the picture when they secretly landed a plane with pallets full of cash to hand over to the Iranian president...

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    114. Re:Crybabies by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

      Seriously there are as many racially charged skeletons in the closets of Clinton herself and most of her staff as in those of Trump or anyone on his team.

      [citation needed]

    115. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Good to know!

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    116. Re:Crybabies by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Interesting because both Politco (a heavy left leaning site) and Fox (a moderate right leaning site) has it at ~1.4M.

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    117. Re:Crybabies by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Election integrity and security in this country is a joke

      This is known by both sides, but both sides play the game because they both think they can game the system better than the other guy. Better to keep the broken system you know than risk a fair contest.

    118. Re:Crybabies by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      And if the voting system in the booth lies to you, you can *never* know how your vote is counted. The punch cards (used in Florida, but now widely abandoned because of the problems there) could be calibrated wrong to only cast valid votes for the candidate you like and invalidate votes for anyone you don't like, and it would be *impossible* for the voter to know or verify in the booth, how their vote would be counted. The vote-checkers that most polling places have you scan before dropping it in the box should catch some of these errors, but not all, and are also vulnerable to tampering.

      Unless you are using pen-on-paper ballot marking (tick the box), or an electronic system with multiple printed receipts, it's *impossible* in the US to verify how your vote will be cast.

      At this point, we'd be much better off going back to open voting. It worked great, until the civil war, when armed poll workers would kill you if you voted wrong (or looked wrong), though such tactics would work now, and that they aren't indicates we are mostly stable enough to go back to open voting, to fix the massive problems we have now.

    119. Re:Crybabies by Rei · · Score: 1

      Because city people aren't really individuals or even humans, they're more some amorphous evil hive mind, amirite?

      Maybe we should just simplify it and declare city people to be 3/5ths of "real" people?

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    120. Re: Crybabies by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      It's worth noting that getting a driver license does not require one to be a citizen - indeed, you can get one on pretty much any valid visa, including students or workers. So far as I know, most states don't put citizenship info on the license.

      Now, doing this on vacation would be tricky, because you'd need to prove contiguous residence in the state, usually for at least 30 days. This generally requires a lease, not something like a hotel; and getting that on a tourist visa would be tricky.

    121. Re: Crybabies by Entrope · · Score: 1

      "So far as [you] know" is wrong. States must provide a section on driver's license applications (among other application forms) for voter registration. The Motor Voter Act requires that section to list the requirements to register as a voter, allow the application to aver that they meet those requirements, and prohibits asking for anything beyond the "minimum amount of information necessary".

      In my state (Virginia), you don't need a lease or deed to prove residency -- a recent utility bill, bank statement, paycheck stub, or school transcript can be used instead, along with harder-to-procure things like Social Security statements, voter registration card, property or life insurance bill, and so forth. As I said, that varies by state.

    122. Re: Crybabies by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      What I meant is that the driver license itself does not show whether you're a citizen or not. At least it certainly doesn't in my state.

      With respect to proving residency, yes, I know that you don't actually need a deed (I had to prove residency as a non-citizen several times, albeit for other reasons). But you need an utility bill, bank statement etc in your name. It's pretty hard to get such a thing for a hotel room. I guess it might be possible to fool a bank like that, but I doubt it'd last long.

    123. Re:Crybabies by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Well that escalated quickly...

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    124. Re:Crybabies by mi · · Score: 1

      Well he didn't accept the voting results.

      He didn't promise to, so he is consistent.

      Your candidate did make the promise — and is walking it back now.

      We need a do over.

      And we will have one — in November 2020.

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    125. Re:Crybabies by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Emoluments clause - president can't get wealthier because of his power. Violations example: See Donald J Trump

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    126. Re: Crybabies by DEN_GUY · · Score: 1

      That's how the electional college works. And, BTW if Hillary would have even be able to hold on to traditionally blue states, she would have started thw night with 246 electoral votes. So go ahead abolish it.

    127. Re:Crybabies by cshark · · Score: 1

      Except, he thinks, he would've won even more — which is not, what you believe at all.

      Everybody seems to think we're working on the European system of popular votes and do-overs. Thank god we're not.

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    128. Re:Crybabies by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      That's what I love about Trump supporters -- they are so gracious in victory.

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    129. Re:Crybabies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      That's as ridiculous as me asserting that you bemoan the difficulty you will be having getting a Young Pioneers group going for your son to attend.

      Sure, I could go out looking for a few weirdos in my area who say they are the KKK to join up with. And you could go out looking for whomever nearest you has a Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade running as a Student Organization.

      But it's all fucking hyperbole.

    130. Re:Crybabies by quax · · Score: 1

      No more bought-and-paid-for career politicians just means you cut out the middleman. Now you have a billionaire con man at the helm, who's entire life revolved around enriching himself . Brilliant!

      Unsurprisingly, he now put together a cabinet of fellow billionaires. How do you feel about Steven Mnuchin, youngest banker to ever have made Goldman Sachs partner, former Soros employee and Hollywood movie producer? He should shake things up, right?

      Of course unfortunately things are probably eveb worse, since there is good reasons to believe that Trump is in Putin's pocket.

      We can look forward to at least four years of raping the US treasury while the US allies will be left to fend for themselves.

  2. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet you're a hoot at parties.

  3. oh boy by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    ... on the constant mockery, this will be Dubya all over again, won't it?

    1. Re:oh boy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      ... on the constant mockery, this will be Dubya all over again, won't it?

      Nope. Compared to Dubya, this time around is gonna be YUUUUUUUUGGGEE!

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    2. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yup. Guess who we learned it from? Only the best. Newt Gingrich, Jeff Beck. Rush Limbaugh. Steve Bannon. Chris Christie. Rudy Guiliani. Etc., etc.

    3. Re:oh boy by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Didn't Obama collect all the '93 stations wagons in the Cash For Clunkers deal?

    4. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yep. I'm really waiting for 2018, because it's going to be A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.

      For those unaware, the majority of Senate seats up in 2018 are Democrat seats. And they're almost all in red states that Obama "won."

      Trump is going to get a super-majority in 2018 and then it's going to be overdrive time for making America great again. And since the only thing the Democrat Party can do against Trump is whine about meaningless numbers and make blatantly false accusations about how he's a "Nazi" or how all his supporters are "racists" they are going to lose and lose HARD. I'll bet all 25 D seats become R in 2018, and with luck, it will be time for a Constitutional Convention to start adding some amendments to reign in damage from the Supreme Court.

      I can't wait to see who they run in 2020, because the Ds have pretty much no one in the pipe who won't be pushing 80 by 2020. Who do they have left? Pelosi? Warren, after she loses her seat in 2018? Who?

      They're SCREWED and they must know it by now.

    5. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When the left doesn't get their way or they can't deal with facts they resort to personal attacks.

      Are you seriously trying to tell us that Trump is on the Left?

      I know most amerans can't destingush between far right and extreme far right, but to call him left is really stretching credulity.

    6. Re:oh boy by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Except that they all were preceded by endless insults of Reagan, Quayle and others in the previous GOP administrations.

    7. Re:oh boy by SCPaPaJoe · · Score: 1

      Dubya was funny. This is just gonna be sad.

    8. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What's funny is Republicans control almost enough States to overturn the 22nd Amendment and keep Trump in office past 8yrs. He might be too old by then unfortunately.

    9. Re:oh boy by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      This sounds a lot like the "but he started it" argument that I witnessed some of my cousin's young children have this Thanksgiving. If that's the level of political discourse we're capable of as an electorate, it's little wonder why the election came down to two of the most odious candidates we've ever seen, and as the saying goes, in a democracy people get the government that they deserve.

    10. Re:oh boy by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      What complaint do you have against Jeff Beck?

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    11. Re:oh boy by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is you are SCREWED NOW. But you worry about Democratic political rich elites who are "screwed" in 2020? Jesus Christ you people are stupid. The political elite will still be the elite in 2020. But you will still be working class and stupid.

    12. Re:oh boy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      .. on the constant mockery, this will be Dubya all over again, won't it?

      Compared to Trump, George W Bush was a regular Pericles.

      You're going to see mockery on a level never before seen in human history. And the Orange Daddy earned every bit of it.

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    13. Re:oh boy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      What complaint do you have against Jeff Beck

      I was gonna leave that one alone, but I'm glad someone caught it.

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    14. Re:oh boy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Didn't Obama collect all the '93 stations wagons in the Cash For Clunkers deal?

      It was obscured by the smoke from the burning Ford Pinto, which has been rear-ended earlier.

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    15. Re:oh boy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the best thing is, because Trump doesn't belong to a protected class, it won't be wacist.

      Trump belongs to the most protected class of all: millionaires.

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    16. Re:oh boy by whodunit · · Score: 2

      After losing an election following six months of sneering, elitist, classist "mockery," clearly the answer is to... double down.

    17. Re:oh boy by Tesen · · Score: 1

      And the best thing is, because Trump doesn't belong to a protected class, it won't be wacist.

      Trump belongs to the most protected class of all: millionaires.

      Or as he claims, "billionaires" which is why he threatens to sue anyone and everyone :)

    18. Re:oh boy by Tesen · · Score: 1

      After losing an election following six months of sneering, elitist, classist "mockery," clearly the answer is to... double down.

      Trump is an elitist :) Granted, he is a different kind in appearance than the ones we are used to mocking in our country, but at the core he is pretty much the same.

    19. Re:oh boy by jandersen · · Score: 1

      ... on the constant mockery, this will be Dubya all over again, won't it?

      Looking back, George W Bush seems so much better. I never thought I would say that, but there you go.

    20. Re:oh boy by swillden · · Score: 1

      And the best thing is, because Trump doesn't belong to a protected class, it won't be wacist.

      Trump belongs to several protected classes. He has a race, he has a gender, he has a sexual orientation, he has a religion, etc. Except in specific circumstances, where the focus is on righting an existing wrong, it is illegal to discriminate against him on any of those bases. It's not illegal to criticize him for any of those things, just pointless and in bad taste.

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    21. Re:oh boy by chispito · · Score: 1

      .. on the constant mockery, this will be Dubya all over again, won't it?

      Compared to Trump, George W Bush was a regular Pericles.

      You're going to see mockery on a level never before seen in human history. And the Orange Daddy earned every bit of it.

      That partially goes to show you how out of touch pundits and comedians are with half of the country. It's why they couldn't see his victory coming, and still can't make sense of it.

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    22. Re:oh boy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      That partially goes to show you how out of touch pundits and comedians are with half of the country.

      I think you mean 20% of the country.

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    23. Re:oh boy by judoguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the Orange Daddy earned every bit of it.

      Why? Seriously, how is he even a patch on life long politicians who have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people around the world like Bush and Hillary?

      People that have added massive debt to the U.S. that has our kids names on the bills and forced crap like ObamaCare on us. Oh, he MIGHT be as bad at some point? Perhaps, but he hasn't done anything yet.

      The hatred is astounding.

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    24. Re:oh boy by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      In both comedy and horror!

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    25. Re:oh boy by drsquare · · Score: 1

      They've been mocking Trump for years and it hasn't made a bit of difference. At this point it's basically making noise for the sake of making noise. A giant left-wing tantrum all over TV.

    26. Re:oh boy by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      That partially goes to show you how out of touch pundits and comedians are with half of the country.

      I think you mean 20% of the country.

      I think you mean 75% of the country. The thought HRC was well-supported, but it turns out only 25% of the country (or less) actually supported her. This means that these pundits were (and still are) out of touch with the 75% of the country who did not vote for her.

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    27. Re:oh boy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I think you mean 75% of the country. The thought HRC was well-supported, but it turns out only 25% of the country (or less) actually supported her. This means that these pundits were (and still are) out of touch with the 75% of the country who did not vote for her.

      Trump's 62mil votes is not "75% of the country", unless you're using geographic area. And just so you know, land mass doesn't really have political opinions, you numpty.

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    28. Re:oh boy by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      I think you mean 75% of the country. The thought HRC was well-supported, but it turns out only 25% of the country (or less) actually supported her. This means that these pundits were (and still are) out of touch with the 75% of the country who did not vote for her.

      Trump's 62mil votes is not "75% of the country", unless you're using geographic area.

      No one claimed that. My claim is that HRC's ~64m votes is 25% (or less) of the country. She has, whether you like it or not, the support of roughly 25% (or less) of the country. There was, whether you even want to acknowledge it or not, only a 0.66% difference in support between Clinton and Trump.

      The margin of popularity between Clinton and Trump is barely a rounding error. Plotted on a 0%-100% chart printed on A4 paper, you won't even see the difference!

      you numpty.

      Nice. Classy.

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    29. Re:oh boy by painandgreed · · Score: 2

      And the Orange Daddy earned every bit of it.

      Why? Seriously, how is he even a patch on life long politicians who have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people around the world like Bush and Hillary?

      People that have added massive debt to the U.S. that has our kids names on the bills and forced crap like ObamaCare on us. Oh, he MIGHT be as bad at some point? Perhaps, but he hasn't done anything yet.

      The hatred is astounding.

      Oh come on. Your post is ample evidence that the previous president hardly escaped astounding hate. There might be something in there about how the left and right cope with not having the presidency differently, but in practice, neither side lets the other side take power without bitching and whining for the entire four years. We just had eight years of Republican bitching and now we will have at least four of Democrat bitching.

    30. Re:oh boy by syntotic · · Score: 1

      NO one thinks it literal and warning? Dump down elevators tower. Why dont you go and inspect it visually? Security guards or janitors might help...

    31. Re:oh boy by syntotic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, like announcing he is dead but they have plenty of pictures and TV footage; only a few blocks from Wall St Trump Tower.

  4. overwhelmingly by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    Check that definition.

    1. Re:overwhelmingly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A number that is completely irrelevant. 270 is the only number that matters.

  5. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You need a refresher course on defamation. Political figures and other celebrities are fair game, IIRC from my torts class. And even if he were neither of the aforementioned, he'd have to show damages. Other than his yuge ego that is.

  6. Pajama Boys by nicoleb_x · · Score: 2

    I bet they can't even vote.

  7. Good to see mocking the President back in fashion by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After eight years of it being racist, mocking the President as well as other dissent is patriotic once again. That alone made voting for Trump worth it...

    And to think, it almost became sexist instead!..

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  8. In the past, people would get out the guns by HBI · · Score: 5, Funny

    Today they write supposedly comedic Amazon reviews.

    And they wonder why the word "pussy" is the first one that comes to mind. I guess Trump grabbed you really good.

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    1. Re:In the past, people would get out the guns by quax · · Score: 1

      Clearly he grabbed you by your epic sense of humor.

    2. Re: In the past, people would get out the guns by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      Some of the reviews are funny. My favourite is,
      "Not safe if you have cats in the house."

      A few comments say that the shiny Trump bauble is made in China but that can't be right can it?

  9. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by hey! · · Score: 2

    I'm guessing you didn't do that well in your torts class. We aren't talking defamation, we're at least potentially talking about trademark tarnishment.

    There of course has never been any case like this one would be -- a trademark so intimately tied to a personality who is also a public political figure. My guess is what *should* happen is First Amendment should beat trademark law, in that the intent was political rather than commercial.

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  10. Re:She lost, get over it already by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 1

    He is going to be our next president for the next ten years. You're not going to fight this, you're going to shut up, and like it. Get over it already. You're redefining what it means to be a sore loser. No matter what you do you're only getting more people to support God-Emperor Trump, and hate liberalism in all its forms. Congratulations, this is exactly why you lost, and why you will keep on losing.

    He can only be elected to two 4 year terms (total of 8 years). I can't see him running as some one else's vice President running mate on the hope that the President would leave office and let him take over for a partial term to exceed the 2 term limit.

  11. Re: Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that the owner of said trademark is doing a fine job of applying tarnish to it, every time he tweets.

  12. Re:Can you feel the stupid flowing? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Can we kick her, along with anyone who committed voter fraud on her behalf, out of the country if the recount comes up with her still loosing?

    The only actual case of voter fraud I remember reading about in this election was a white woman who voted for Trump twice, presumably because she was hoping he would grab her pussy at least once.

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  13. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ah, the sweet display of irrational fear. Civics question: Which branch of government passes laws?

  14. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    A brand that cannot trust its own own staff .... or a brand that cant secure its own tools ...

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  15. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by DogDude · · Score: 1, Troll

    Oh, please. Don't pretend that mocking Obama and mocking Trump are anywhere near the same thing. That's stupid. But then again, voting for Trump is about as stupid as you can get, so I'm not all that surprised that you don't get it.

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  16. Suck it up cupcake, Hillary won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    She won by 2 million votes.

    AMERICAN votes too, not Russian ones.

  17. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by pushing-robot · · Score: 1, Funny
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  18. Re:President Trump (tm) by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Informative

    She won more votes, votes of equal more men, men whose votes ARE EQUAL under the constitution, she's the President elect of the United States. Trump is hoping to be the President elect of the electoral college.

    Are you trying to be oxymoronic? You simply cannot quote the parts of the constitution and ignore the specific parts pertaining to the election of the president to claim someone who failed those parts is the legit elected. Furthermore, you are basing this stupidity on the preamble to the constitution which describes the purpose for which is laid out within the constitution that you are actively ignoring.

    Do they not teach simple civics and government in high school any more?

    Electoral College should not try to overrule the will of the people, and Trump cannot be President with so many conflicts of interests, thats a violation of Constitutionâ(TM)s emoluments clause. You can't have a Trump Brand USA (tm)

    The electoral college was specifically set in place to allow "states" to elect the president of the united "states" instead of the people. The federal government has a president of the United States not the United "People". The congress and senate is the people's house and originally the senate represented the states (which is still does to a certain extent even after the constitution was amended to allow direct elections of the senators). The house of representatives was supposed to represent the people which is why all laws implementing taxes are supposed to originate there. The senate represented the states and the president is and was a figurehead to enact the sovereignty given up by the states. You have to remember, after the revolution, the thirteen colonies became 13 countries which eventually joined a confederation which ended up forming a constitutional republic that ceded only portions of their sovereignty. This is the entire purpose of the 9th and 10th amendments and article 1 section 8 that defines the original powers of the federal government.

    I don't know if you actually understand this and are simply trying to convince the ignorant to be useful idiots or if you seriously never bothered reading past the preamble and skipped school during your civics classes or something. Either way, this isn't hard to find out which you probably should have already done if you actually care about the issue as much as your post pretends to. It is not like this isn't the first time that a president has won the electoral college but not the popular vote in your life time if you are actually old enough to vote. God help us if you actually claim to be educated higher than a high school level too.

  19. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ok explain to me why this is okay, but this isn't?

    Why is this okay but this isn't?

    If you say because one is black and the other is white then you are the textbook definition of a racist.

  20. What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hillary lost. Get over it.

    If you're confident of that (as I am, actually), then you have nothing to fear from a recount, right? There's nothing wrong with double-checking tight races.

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    1. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 2

      It's not the public's money. That's why those asking for the recount had to raise the money to pay for it. As for your other comment... changing the outcome of the election isn't the only goal. We're also interested to find out if the election procedures are counting the votes accurately. If they are, great. If not, it means that we've got some work to do. Personally, I think we should do random recounts as a matter of course, no matter what the outcome.

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    2. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're confident of that (as I am, actually), then you have nothing to fear from a recount, right? There's nothing wrong with double-checking all tight races and not a select few.

      Fixed that for you. Unless you fear the outcome.

      All tight races should be recounted, plus a random sample of the rest. This should be standard procedure. Plus we should also have independent re-checking of the voter registration rolls and processes. Basically, we should apply academic rigor to the election process. It's too expensive to do that universally, sure, but it could be done randomly in the normal case, and it's probably worth expending a little more effort and money on tight races.

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    3. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It wasn't that tight, Hilary got 2 million more votes than Trump. That's why he is making the claims about millions of illegal votes on Twitter now, he is worried that the closer people look and the more they demand electoral college reform the less legitimate his administration will look.

      The national popular vote was tight (Hillary's win margin was just over 1%), but that's irrelevant because that's not how the president is elected. Some key state races, however, were very close. In Wisconsin Trump's margin was 0.9%. In Michigan it appears that he won by less than 0.3%. Further, there were some irregularities in Wisconsin's results that argue for closer scrutiny. The recounting is unlikely to change the results, but it may reveal problems in the voting systems that can be fixed. As I've argued elsewhere in this thread, we should recount all close results as a matter of course, and randomly select other locations to recount as well, as a sort of hygiene for our democracy.

      Actually, what we should *really* do is use verifiable voting processes. When the discussion of voting machines began 20+ years ago, the election integrity problem caught the attention of cryptographers and other security researchers, and their work since then has produced some dramatically better systems by applying ideas from modern cryptography and information theory. They make election integrity mathematically provable (within certain fairly rigorous assumptions; the way cryptographers always work). Early designs were ridiculously impractical, but they improved and the best systems are extremely practical. See Chaum's Scantegrity system, for example.

      But the country insists on ignoring these systems. Oddly enough, every time this topic comes up on /., a nominally nerd-oriented side where I'd expect people to be fascinated by them, I post about them... and nearly always get ignored.

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    4. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by judoguy · · Score: 1

      If you're confident of that (as I am, actually), then you have nothing to fear from a recount, right? There's nothing wrong with double-checking tight races.

      Unless you live in MN. We had both a Senator (Al Franken) and a Governor (Mark Dayton) lose and the Democrat controlled machine simply recounted over and over and "interpreted" the intent of votes until they won by a few hundred votes each.

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    5. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 1

      If you're confident of that (as I am, actually), then you have nothing to fear from a recount, right? There's nothing wrong with double-checking tight races.

      Unless you live in MN. We had both a Senator (Al Franken) and a Governor (Mark Dayton) lose and the Democrat controlled machine simply recounted over and over and "interpreted" the intent of votes until they won by a few hundred votes each.

      Weren't the representatives of the Republican candidates involved in and overseeing the recount? A prerequisite for a recount being useful is that it actually has to be conducted with greater care and scrutiny than the original count.

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    6. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, it is a waste of the public's money.

      I work at a courthouse in a relatively small county. Our county clerks office employs exactly one person, we are having to pull an additional 7 people from other departments to do our recount on Thursday.

      The taxpayers are paying eight people to be "not doing their jobs" for a day.

      Is this in Wisconsin? As I understand it, the recounts under discussion have to be paid for by the parties requesting the recount, so your complaint doesn't apply. If your recount is being done for some other reason (e.g. many states have laws requiring recounts of races that are close), then perhaps there's some other entity that should be paying... or maybe it's just part of what the county should be expecting to pay.

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    7. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by Rudisaurus · · Score: 1

      But the country insists on ignoring these systems. Oddly enough, every time this topic comes up on /., a nominally nerd-oriented side where I'd expect people to be fascinated by them, I post about them... and nearly always get ignored.

      That's because you're making good sense. This is certainly not the forum for that.

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    8. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Umm... Drumpf isn't elected yet until the voting is certified and the Electoral College has cast their ballots. So you are wrong as of the end of November, 2016.

      You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

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    9. Re:What's the objection to a recount? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Tired of eating crow, do a recount, go back to eating cold crow when done.

      You didn't read the post you replied to.

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  21. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm guessing you didn't do that well in your torts class. We aren't talking defamation, we're at least potentially talking about trademark tarnishment.

    First you have to prove that his trademark wasn't already tarnished. Settling a fraud lawsuit for $25,000,000.00 sort of puts a little patina on it. How do you prove that having "Dump Towers" on Google maps for a few minutes is what did the damage and not him talking about grabbing women's pussies?

    Before this Google maps prank, you already had bookings at Trump hotels way down.

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  22. Valid review by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the reviews was very insightful in that it pointed out that this $149 ornament was MADE IN CHINA. Trump supporters are suckers. He doesn't give a flying fuck about you. Neither does Hillary, but she isn't selling $149 ornaments. What a joke.

    1. Re:Valid review by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One of the reviews was very insightful in that it pointed out that this $149 ornament was MADE IN CHINA. Trump supporters are suckers. He doesn't give a flying fuck about you. Neither does Hillary, but she isn't selling $149 ornaments. What a joke.

      No, she's selling $353,400 dinners:

      http://www.politico.com/story/...

      Everything that the left gets to riled up about Trump doing pales in comparison to similar actions on the other side.

    2. Re:Valid review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right. Hillary sells $353,400 dinners to Wall street bankers who can afford it, while Trump sells Chinese trinkets to his ignorant American consumers.

      Hillary takes money from the rich... Trump takes money from the poor...

      It's going to be a long 4 years watching some people who aren't rich figure out how bad they've got it.

    3. Re:Valid review by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Did anyone expect differently? I don't for a minute think that Trump will bring serious manufacturing back to the States, but what the heck do you crazy morons expect from him now? Do you really expect him to build a factory somewhere in the US to manufacture some ornament, and all that in a month or two, just so he can claim he makes stuff in America?

      He never claimed that he would only promote or sell items made in America. He's only claimed he wants to bring back manufacturing. And if anyone believes that the entire range of products made in China will ever be made in the US is an idiot. Trump never claimed it, and he couldn't do it, even if he actually wanted to.

    4. Re:Valid review by Freischutz · · Score: 1

      You're right. Hillary sells $353,400 dinners to Wall street bankers who can afford it, while Trump sells Chinese trinkets to his ignorant American consumers.

      Hillary takes money from the rich... Trump takes money from the poor...

      It's going to be a long 4 years watching some people who aren't rich figure out how bad they've got it.

      Well the Donald is president and that makes him several orders of magnitude more interesting than Hillary. You can bet your bottom dollar that the fact that he is merchandising the hell out of the venerable office of the President of the United States with cheap Chinese trinkets after running on a platform of protectionism, trade wars, 'Make America great again' and 'Bring American jobs back from China' will attract more attention that Hillary Clinton's dinners. You just got a preview of what every single day in the life of Donald Trump and those who voted for him will look like for the next four years. That's what freedom of speech means, you are allowed to lampoon people for being hypocrites and doing stupid stuff. So suck it up and look on the bright side, the official US presidential ornament for Christmas 2017/18 will be proudly handmade in America and it will cost $299.99 thanks to higher labour costs and the ongoing trade wars that Mr. Trump has promised us will be raging by then.

    5. Re:Valid review by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That's what is called normal. No one would bat an eyelid if Trump hosted an expensive fundraising dinner of its own. ... Unless someone got rapped by a Mexican drug dealer serving the 1% on the night.

    6. Re:Valid review by drsquare · · Score: 1

      When the rich give money to Hillary, it ain't charity. They were expecting a whole lot back in return.

    7. Re:Valid review by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      hawking....
      Hocking would mean she was attempting to get someone to buy it at a pawnshop.

    8. Re:Valid review by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      No, she's selling $353,400 dinners:

      And Trumps are $449,400. http://www.dailynews.com/gover...

  23. Re:She lost, get over it already by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    He is going to be our next president for the next ten years.

    I guess they don't teach US civics in Russia.

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  24. Re:In Britain, by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I just tried searching the online phone book for Trump in London. Unsurprisingly it says there isn't one!

    They love Trump in the UK:

    http://janeygodley.com/wp-cont...

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  25. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by Osgeld · · Score: 2

    It's cause Obama isn't shit his pants stupid

  26. Re:President Trump (tm) by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    The electoral college was specifically set in place to allow "states" to elect the president of the united "states" instead of the people. The federal government has a president of the United States not the United "People".

    Let's ask Donald Trump what he thinks of the electoral college:

    https://twitter.com/realDonald...

    And let's ask him about how people should just suck it up and accept the results of the election:

    https://twitter.com/realDonald...

    https://twitter.com/realDonald...

    So let's apply what you said to Donald Trump, first and foremost, huh?

    I don't know if you actually understand this and are simply trying to convince the ignorant to be useful idiots or if you seriously never bothered reading past the preamble and skipped school during your civics classes or something.

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  27. Re: Stunning level of disrespect. by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    We never elected biff tannor before

  28. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Voting for a racist was a great way to make your point.

  29. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by quax · · Score: 1

    talking about trademark tarnishment.

    How much will daddy have to pay Ivanka for the damage that he did to her brand?

  30. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 2

    Clearly, I must be one of those self-hating, heterosexual white males.

  31. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's just say the whole Birther thing is a bit of a tell, then the not renting to black folks in NYC is kind of a give-away as well.

  32. Re:President Trump (tm) by Sartr · · Score: 1

    It's hilarious how Tolerant Liberals take the word of Donald Trump as gospel whenever it suits their pathetic desperate attempts at overturning an election.

  33. Re:Stunning level of disrespect. by mhotchin · · Score: 1

    He'll be treated with respect once he earns it.

  34. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quantaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After eight years of it being racist, mocking the President as well as other dissent is patriotic once again. That alone made voting for Trump worth it...

    And to think, it almost became sexist instead!..

    Mocking Obama was always fine.

    Mocking Obama in a transparently racist manner was racist. Just like mocking Hillary with obviously sexist insults was sexist.

    Just because it's possible to mock Obama or Hillary without being racist or sexist doesn't mean that any offensive thing you say magically becomes not racist or sexist.

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  35. Stiggint by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    That's the sentiment you're expressing. It is not, not matter how you feel right this moment, a positive thing. Letting base feelings govern our country instead of reason and humanity is a bad thing all around. Somewhere in you you've got to know this.

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  36. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Dude, this is the internet age. It doesn't take much of a google search to know you're either drinking the kool aid or full of shit.

    One search. That's all you need to do to educate yourself. But its too much to ask. Typical Trumpy. You want everything handed to you. You can't compete on your merits, so you cry "Its Racism. Its all the blacks and mexicans getting an unfair advantage and taking all our jobs."

    Here's your search: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=racist+shit+trump+has+said

    But since that's probably too much for you to click here's a summary

    - He tweets racist quotes.
    - He operated apartment building that didn't rent to blacks.
    - His closest advisers are white supremacists.
    - Blacks were not allowed to work the floor in his casinos when he was at the casino.
    - He wants a ban on immigration, for Muslims.
    - He thinks Mexicans are rapists and thieves.
    - He thinks blacks are lazy.
    - He hates it that there are blacks in his accounting department. He rather they were jews.

    I could go on, but you already made up your mind weeks ago. This is wasted on you.

  37. Re:If you make fun of Obama, you're RAAACIST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You are as dumb as a bag of dicks. Do you know what semiotics are? The closest president to Obama in terms of policy and action is Ronald Reagan. Don't believe me well then look it up you illiterate mongoloid. What's racist is when the house does sweet fuck all while the country is burning to make a black man look bad. If you can explain the difference between the federalist papers and the pocket appointments without google I'd eat my hat.

  38. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Because of the long history of black people being likened to apes, originally out of ignorance but now out of malice (which is still often combined with ignorance) but you knew that.

  39. I actually think Hilary does care by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    she's a progressive. Not necessarily a great one, but she is at least trying. You're massively underestimating the height of the bar she was trying to leap, the amount of effort needed and the compromises required to get even close to what she was trying to do. For one thing, she was poised to put single payer back on the table (Mr Clinton was going around talking about it).

    Well, America just pissed that all away for good 'ole fashion apathy. Trump got the Republican base out just like Rhomey did. Clinton couldn't get the Blacks and Latinos out. She couldn't get them excited with vague promises... Meanwhile Trump promised them the world. Lies, all lies of course. But it _felt_ good.

    Sad thing is those Blacks and Latinos are really going to regret staying home. Trump's cabinet isn't going to do them any favors, and somebody's got to fill all those private prisons...

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    1. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      GOP votes by blacks were up 8%, and by hispanics were up 9%. They both turned out more for Trump than they did for Romney or McCain.

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    2. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      I would not say that Trump 'got the Republican base out.'

      My father is a lifelong Republican, and he was kinda a Jeb fan. He refused to vote for a Presidential candidate in this election. For the first time in his life, and he's 87 years old.

      Trump energized a lot of people who normally aren't particularly interested in elections. It went against the Republicans as much as the Democrats. The musty old US Chamber of Commerce Republicans are not happy.

    3. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Informative

      GOP votes by blacks were up 8%, and by hispanics were up 9%. They both turned out more for Trump than they did for Romney or McCain.

      It's true that Trump did better than Romney did in 2012 with both of those groups. But your numbers are way off.

      Black vote for Romney: 6%
      Black vote for Trump: 8%

      Latino vote for Romney: 27%
      Latino vote for Trump: 29%

      So, Trump added 2% to each group, not 8% and 9% respectively. And that 2% is likely within the margin of error of the exit polls.

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    4. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hi, I'm the resident percentage nazi.

      Trump added 2 percentage points to each group.

      Trump added 7 per cent to the Latino vote (29 / 27 = 1,074)

      Trump added 33 per cent to the Black vote (8 / 6 = 1,333)

    5. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And slashdot ate my <strong>'s. (They showed correctly in the preview!) Should've stuck with <b> for bold...

      Trump added 2 percentage points to each group.

      Trump added 7 per cent to the Latino vote (29 / 27 = 1,074)

      Trump added 33 per cent to the Black vote (8 / 6 = 1,333)

    6. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      For one thing, she was poised to put single payer back on the table (Mr Clinton was going around talking about it).

      I am far more anti-Trump than I am anti-Clinton, but I am beyond skeptical about the idea that Clinton would make another serious effort at single-payer health care, especially after she has already announced that it will never happen — which she did right after taking massive stacks of Big Pharma money for the first time. Mr. Clinton was going around talking during the DNC primary, too, and interfering with polling places. Even if not outright illegal, that was sleazy. Mr. Clinton talking about things does not interest me.

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    7. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by judoguy · · Score: 1

      she's a progressive. Not necessarily a great one, but she is at least trying. .

      Trying what exactly? How fucking stupid that sounds.

      "Progressive!" Someone with an IQ in the upper 2 digits or higher would take a moment and wonder towards what end is someone "progressing".

      God, I get tired of hearing that phrase used to excuse the imposition of totalitarian stateism.

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    8. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the improvement.

      I thought of adding something similar to what you did, but it seemed to distract from the main point -- which was that, in more absolute terms, Trump didn't move the needle all that much with these two groups.

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    9. Re:I actually think Hilary does care by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Trying? She announced her candidacy on TV sitting on a couch. She was not trying very hard....

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  40. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 2

    Your caps lock got stuck.

  41. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because of the long history of black people being likened to apes, originally out of ignorance but now out of malice (which is still often combined with ignorance) but you knew that.

    Your racist argument boils down to Obama is black and Bush is white.

  42. Re:President Trump (tm) by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's hilarious how Tolerant Liberals take the word of Donald Trump as gospel whenever it suits their pathetic desperate attempts at overturning an election.

    Fair enough. So you're the right person to ask: Was he bullshitting then or is he bullshitting now? Or was the electoral college really an abomination in 2012, but is a beautiful thing now? Was resistance the right thing to do in 2012, but is a Very Bad Thing now?

    Or are the very concepts of logic and consistency rigged? How far will you debase your ability to reason in order to support this corrupt urinal cake?

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  43. Re:Stunning level of disrespect. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I recall the most unworthy candidate in history specifically disrespecting millions of individuals by calling them a basket of deplorables. No wonder she lost.

  44. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by DogDude · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's called historical context, you stupid anonymous fuck. Pick up a history textbook that's not from Texas and learn something.

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  46. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    How do you prove that having "Dump Towers" on Google maps for a few minutes is what did the damage and not him talking about grabbing women's pussies?

    You have a point, but so far I haven't heard about Trump suing whoever released that recording of a private conversation. It certainly makes sense that he could, if he thought it was important enough to do so.

    But it's not.

    Suck on it, losers.

  47. Re:Stunning level of disrespect. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    It was this nutty when Reagan was elected. So I've seen it before.

    We'll survive it.

    Except some of those sucking-chest-wound Hillary supporters.

  48. Re:President Trump (tm) by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    It doesn't matter if he was bullshitting then, or bullshitting now.

    President Trump

    (this could get to be like the Burma Shave signs. Except we couldn't put them on the highway, there would be too many pileups of Liberals, and they lease expensive cars)

  49. Re:She lost, get over it already by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    You'd probably find that many educated non-Americans know as much or more about US civics than most Americans.

    You're the one who is supposed to say smug stuff like that about the stupid Americans, dintcha know?

  50. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    You have a point, but so far I haven't heard about Trump suing whoever released that recording of a private conversation.

    He threatens lawsuits, but as expected, he doesn't follow through. Trump will never sue anyone for libel or releasing or reporting on a private conversation, because he worries about what would be learned in the discovery phase. This is a guy who was comfortable with his teenaged daughter being called a "piece of ass". He's a urinal cake.

    https://variety.com/2016/tv/ne...

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  51. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dear me. It's not wrong to liken anyone to a monkey but if you liken a white person to a monkey, it will be taken to mean that you are racist, insensitive or ignorant, because why else would you do that? To further racial equality?

    Fixed that for you.

  52. Re:President Trump (tm) by DaHat · · Score: 2

    Was he bullshitting then or is he bullshitting now?

    Neither. Like Obama & Hillary on the subject of same-sex marriage... he 'evolved' on the issue ;)

    Or are the very concepts of logic and consistency rigged?

    Ask that once we have a final answer as to why 'dissent is patriotic' 2001-2008, racist from 2009-11/8/16, then back to patriotic come 11/9/16?

  53. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I don't know if you were alive these last 8 years, but anyone who mocked or belittled the President was immediately shouted down as racist. With Trump in office, it will become OK to criticize the President again, which is a huge improvement.

    Investigative journalism will also make a big comeback, after an 8 year hibernation. The positives will just keep coming. The media is supposed to exist in eternal opposition to the government, but during Obama they twisted their purpose and became pro-government mouthpieces. They were caught red-handed supporting Hillary's campaign. California does not require any proof of citizenship to vote.

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  54. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Who is this Hillary person you speak of and why should I care about her?

    Anyhow, if you think the Birther thing wasn't about race I have a wonderful bridge to sell you. It's a great deal, you really don't want to miss it.

  55. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Once Trump gained the candidacy it was never about Hillary. A turnip would make for a more qualified president.

    Too bad you don't want that bridge ... Funny though, Trump actually displayed more insight when he observed that he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and his base wouldn't mind. There is nothing that would convince you that the man has a racist bone in his body.

  56. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is it not racist to mock Trump on his hair, his skin color, his small hands?

    Because "bad spray tan" and "ridiculous hair extensions" is not a race.

    And the "small hands" thing is generally just needling him since he's bizarrely insecure about the size of his hands.

    Well I do care. I don't care for Trump, but I do care that apparently it is okay to be racist against white people, but everything a white person says can be considered racism.

    It's not OK to be racist against white people.

    Thankfully it's also relatively rare (at least compared to racism against non-whites).

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  57. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1, Funny

    I only use grammatically incorrect periods. To annoy you.

  58. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    Investigative journalism will also make a big comeback, after an 8 year hibernation.

    Even if that were true (and IMHO is not) that would do no more than speak volumes about the poor quality of the right wing press. However, the right wing has always proven to be every bit as adept as their left wing colleagues at digging up dirt on people which belies your statement.

  59. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    Why is it not racist to mock Trump on his hair, his skin color, his small hands?

    Because "bad spray tan" and "ridiculous hair extensions" is not a race.

    And the "small hands" thing is generally just needling him since he's bizarrely insecure about the size of his hands.

    Trump, much like many other public figures with an elevated sense of self worth, tends to keep these jokes alive with his reaction to them. I bet Bill Maher never dreamt he would get the mileage he got out of that ridiculous orangutan joke. Trump's attorney even sent Maher Trump's short form birth certificate which allowed Maher to demand, oh irony of ironies, that Trump present his long form birth certificate. That joke would have flown off into the ether and been forgotten 10 seconds after it was made if Trump had not raised a stink about it.

  60. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Tesen · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know if you were alive these last 8 years, but anyone who mocked or belittled the President was immediately shouted down as racist. With Trump in office, it will become OK to criticize the President again, which is a huge improvement.

    Perhaps you were just saying racist things? I am a progressive and I have conservative friends and we mocked President Obama all the time, but we mocked some of his policies, we never attacked his children (unlike some people on the right) nor his wife, his race, culture or religion. Perhaps you need to take a hard long look in the mirror (you do not need to tell us the results) and ask yourself if you are really being honest with yourself.

  61. Re:In Britain, by Tesen · · Score: 1

    I just tried searching the online phone book for Trump in London. Unsurprisingly it says there isn't one!

    They love Trump in the UK:

    http://janeygodley.com/wp-cont...

    Perhaps she misspelled "cute"... then again, I didn't see a white cane leaning up against her ;-)

  62. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wish Obama WAS the guy Republicans kept saying he was... that guy would use his constitutional right to appoint Garland in the recess period and give the senate a last major fuck you.
    The actual Obama is too damn nice to you idiots.

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  63. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by silentcoder · · Score: 1, Insightful

    >There is nothing that would convince you that the man has a racist bone in his body.

    If a picture surfaced tomorrow of Trump slobbering David Duke's knob under his old grand wizard robes - they STILL wouldn't believe he's had a racist's bone in his mouth !

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  64. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    No. You know what was called racist ?
    When you people attacked the president for the EXACT SAME SHIT that you PRAISED when Bush did them - and got your panties in a bunch in wild-assed conspiracy theories.

    Republicans praised the military for doing exercises in Texas in 2003. The then-governor Rick Perry held a party to welcome them.
    When they held the EXACT SAME excercises in 2012 - half of Texas were trying to get them kicked out, the governor sent the state guard to monitor them and everybody was declaring that they were really being deployed as the first stage for Obama to declare martial law and become dictator.

    Notice how the events were IDENTICAL but the REACTION was completely different - THAT was the racism. When the exact same thing looks evil JUST because it's the black guy doing it.

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  65. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know if you were alive these last 8 years, but anyone who mocked or belittled the President was immediately shouted down as racist.

    I disagree. I shared that image on social media, sadly it failed to take, probably because I didn't add any snappy text caption. I thought the bottles did the job, but I guess not. I got zero accusations of racism. Absolutely zero, and I have some pretty PC types in my feed. I come from Santa Cruz, see? Only the racism was necessarily called racism.

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  66. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    Have you considered that he may not KNOW who did it ?
    It's generally very difficult to sue somebody you can't identify - serving process requires an address.

    If's entirely possible that after he takes office, and command of America's surveilance state, that lawsuit will come.

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  67. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    >He's a urinal cake.

    Hey now, that's not fair. Urinal cakes are actually worth pissing on.

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  68. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    While Trump is only worth pissing off.

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  69. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    I don't know if you were alive these last 8 years, but anyone who mocked or belittled the President was immediately shouted down as racist.

    What utter bullshit. Know how I know you're a Trump voter? It's because you invent your own version of reality then get outraged about it.

    There was plenty of criticism aimed at Obama with no racial overtones and not shouted down as racist. I had some pretty strong words to say about TTIP, for example, but no one called me racist for criticising Obama about that. If you were getting shouted down as racist, then it's probably because you were being racist.

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  70. Re:President Trump (tm) by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    It doesn't matter if he was bullshitting then, or bullshitting now.

    Clearly, it doesn't matter to you.

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  71. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    anyone who mocked or belittled the President was immediately shouted down as racist

    That's demonstrably untrue. Just search YouTube for SNL sketches about Obama, for example.

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  72. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    I'm sure we can get the Republicans to purge the people who say mean things right after the Democrats purge their cop killers, their terrorists and sympathizers, and the KKK.

    The KKK voted for Trump, so it's the reps who are going to have to purge them. The vast majority of terrorist attacks on American soil have been by white conservatives, so that's the republicans again. And the democrats will purge the cop killers just as soon as the republicans purge the killer cops. It's the safest time in history to be a cop in America, but they're killing more and more citizens every year. It's not a war on cops. It's a war by cops.

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  73. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Wow, your shitty OC that no-one ever saw and thus was never called racist didn't get called racist, therefore no-one else who wasn't racist didn't get called racist.

    Well, I shared it here on Slashdot, and got a couple hundred hits immediately, then almost nobody else ever saw it. But I also shared it on Fb into a group which I know contains people who like to make accusations of privilege and plenty of 'em saw it. And I posted it on G+, where (in spite of its massive unpopularity) I have at least around a hundred active subscribers. So, several hundred people saw it, lots of them are mouthy, and nobody called me racist.

    As I said, it didn't exactly take off like a rocket. But more than enough people saw it to accuse me of racism if that was going to happen.

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  74. Re:Another Toddler Temper Tantrum by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    True, but not nearly as BIG a threat to democracy as giving the white house to a known fascist demagogue.
    The electoral college was invented for one reason and one reason only: to over-rule the voters and deny Trump the presidency.

    The fact that they won't is all the proof you need that the thing is obsolete.

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  75. Just trying to get you out in the streets with wea by HBI · · Score: 1

    Easily sorted so we can cull the subhuman Left without remorse.

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  76. Re: Stunning level of disrespect. by Xyrus · · Score: 1

    It's Biff Tannen, you moron. Now make like a tree, and get out of here!

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  77. Let me rewrite that headline for you by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    One side of the political fence has decided that it's allowed to be obnoxious, arrogant, sanctimonious, and sophomoric while complaining that that's how the other side behaves.

  78. Re: Stunning level of disrespect. by Jzanu · · Score: 1

    Somebody needs to go back and grab up that damn Sports Almanac, or at least burn it before Trump finds it. Or, maybe we shot/sabotaged the time traveler meant to protect us from this future. Unless we ARE the fucked up alternate universe doomed to WW3, and our future is the one to fix the past.

  79. Hilary [sic] doesn't care by chihowa · · Score: 1

    Hillary Clinton isn't a progressive in any way at all. She pushed the actual progressives, especially Sanders, out of the way during the primaries because it was her turn. She's a neocon and her time in office would have been filled with more middle eastern wars (or maybe an exciting war with Russia!) and corporate hegemony-building. Nothing about her political past suggests that she's every even tried to be a progressive. Where are you getting this from?

    Progressives didn't fail to vote for her out of apathy, but because she had nothing of substance to offer them. The only votes she got were from party loyalists who looked no farther than the "D" and from lesser-of-two-evils votes against Trump. Very very few people voted for her.

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  80. Re:Can you feel the stupid flowing? by Charcharodon · · Score: 1

    I know that is you Mrs Delarco (my 7th grade English teacher). I told you to leave me alone. Stop following me around on the interwebs pointing out my spelling and grammatical errors.

  81. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    I was going to say "Gonzalo Curiel!!!"

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  82. Re:Stein, NY Times by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Why sunglasses?

  83. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    GNU tool for decades, but the neo-marxist label is new.

  84. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    He's not a demon at all. Actually enjoyed him as an entertainer. The man is just dangerously unstable and mentally unfit to be president.

    Switch him out for Pence and I am all good. I don't subscribe to any of Pence's political beliefs, but clearly the guy has some governing experience and is mentally stable.

  85. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by judoguy · · Score: 1

    Let's just say the whole Birther thing is a bit of a tell, then the not renting to black folks in NYC is kind of a give-away as well.

    Yeah, the racist bastard!. And since the NYT is completely unbiased, everything is clear now!

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  86. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Glad to hear that this helped. And I agree, the NYT was very biased against Hillary.

  87. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    any right wing source mocking Obama. Hell, I had multiple Lefty friends call me racist for being pissed about the whole Fast and Furious debacle, because it involved Holder and I mentioned Obama should have handled it better. Because I was criticizing two black men.

  88. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    That's not racist, that's hypocritical.
    Hypocritical: I hate Obama for doing what Bush did.
    Racist: I hate Obama for being black.

    Perhaps it was just partisan based hypocrites, and not race based? Don't be so quick to jump on that nonsense. There's a good chance had Gore been in office, it would have been the same thing.

  89. Re:President Trump (tm) by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    It's not often you see someone so proud to have elected a mealy-mouthed high-frequency flip-flopper.

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  90. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    The amount of constant panicking conspiracy theories can only be explained by people being truly scared to their bones of Obama. Since his center right policies contained nothing to fear, not once, the fear (never seen of past democrats - not even FDR, JFK or carter who were far more socialist than Obama) that does not fit your explanation.
    The fear and hatred Obama evoked was unique. Trump may match it but his actual policies inspire that fear. People are right to be scared they may lose the insurance paying for their lifesaving meds if he repeals the ACA. People are right to worry he could lead to their marriages losing legal status and their families torn appart. He promised to do those things

    But for Obama there was no reason to be afraid - the fear had no connection to his ideas or words or actions. The only explanation left is his identity. When you have eliminated all other possibilities whatever is left, however improbable, must be true.
    And this was a panicked response. It was not a sudden reversal of opinion on a policy (that would be mere hypocrisy) it was a panicked belief that he was trying to become a tyrant. That kind of irrational fear is not explicable by run if the mill politics.

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  91. Re:She lost, get over it already by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    He is going to be our next president for the next ten years.

    He'll only be our next president until January 20th.

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  92. Re:Can you feel the stupid flowing? by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, you're not a looser.

  93. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by zioncat · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you were just saying racist things? I am a progressive and I have conservative friends and we mocked President Obama all the time, but we mocked some of his policies, we never attacked his children (unlike some people on the right) nor his wife, his race, culture or religion. Perhaps you need to take a hard long look in the mirror (you do not need to tell us the results) and ask yourself if you are really being honest with yourself.

    Yeah, I remember conservative cartoonist publishing a cartoon with Obama's kids as dancing monkeys and conservative were not only okay with this obvious racism but even defended it! Only people on the right seem to think its okay to attack children and to portray minority as monkeys. Oh wait...

  94. Re:GRCUMB is a worthless fuck. by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    Sorry, you need to blame the cunts that were stealing land, raping women, and relocating people to siberia.

    While the holocost was horrific , there were preceding events that led up to it - any of which may have completely avoided ww2.

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  95. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Last I checked there was no debate about where McCain was born. Apples and oranges, and the Hillary projection has been debunked so many times ...

    Trump kept the thing alive even after Obama's birth certificate was released. It was a dog whistle and you heard it as clearly as all the other birthers.

  96. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

    Let's just say the whole Birther thing is a bit of a tell, then the not renting to black folks in NYC is kind of a give-away as well.

    And this McCarthyist definition of "racism" doesn't bother you at all? Despite evidence that this attitude is alienating huge swathes of swing voters and young independents?

    How about this: when it comes to politicians, "proposing policies that would discriminate based on race" is racism. Nothing more, nothing less.

    The really, really sad part of this election is Trump's policies (such as they were) re: police brutality and Mexican immigration had a ton of holes. The left could have easily torn them to pieces; instead, they choose to howl and howl not just "Trump is racist" but also "Why aren't you leaping up and down and frothing at the mouth like we are?? We said TRUMP IS RACIST!!!!!" and now "It's not ok. It's not normal. A RACIST is soon going to be in the White House!!!!"

    Replace racist with Communist if you cannot see how dumb this strategy appears from the outside. It makes you look weak and unable to engage in actual policy debate.

  97. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    And this McCarthyist definition of "racism" doesn't bother you at all?

    Nope.

  98. Re:President Trump (tm) by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

    It's not overturning an election. The electors have always had the right to vote for whomever they wished. They retain this right at the federal level even though 29 states so far have tried to unilaterally remove that right with state law.

    If you want to support the reformation of the electoral college then you should do so, but you should stop pretending that only the quirks of the system that work in your favor (resulting in a technical Trump victory even though he lost the election) should be respected, while the quirks that might give Hillary the victory (faithless electors exercising their right to vote for whomever they choose) are invalid. It makes you look weak and self-serving.

  99. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

    And this McCarthyist definition of "racism" doesn't bother you at all?

    Nope.

    Fair enough. But it's people like you who are responsible for the waning left and the rise of the alt-right. Just so you know.

    Fortunately this is one of those problems that will eventually take care of itself, one case of untreated influenza at a time. The new generation, though they are (fortunately) left-leaning, has by and large lost patience for hysteria-based and witch-hunt politics.

  100. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Fair enough. But it's people like you who are responsible for the waning left and the rise of the alt-right. Just so you know.

    Nope to that, too. Because I live in Canada and hardly ever interact with heartland Americans outside the series of tubes.

  101. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

    Oh, we have people like you down here. (I didn't say you personally.) And despite popular reports, enough right wingers (in addition to a few left wingers like myself) down here are aware enough of Europe's existence to view it as a cautionary tale as to what happens when the left is allowed to get too smugly self-absorbed in imagined grievances that they forget the real ones.

    How is your Human Rights Commission doing these days? And did minister Mitchell ever lose his job over the way he treated Tarek Fatah, or is it still considered kosher (a word I use advisedly) to imply that only West- and women-haters are permitted to be the official voice for the Islamic community?

  102. Re:Stunning level of disrespect. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    It wasn't this bad when Reagan was elected, and of course, Reagan increased the debt by more than any president in history (outside of war), at least by percent. And Reagan cut taxes on the wealthy and corporations, and raised them on the poor. So the complaints at the time seemed quite valid, and were substantiated by Reagan's performance.

  103. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Oh, we have people like you down here.

    Not enough.

    And did minister Mitchell ever lose his job over the way he treated Tarek Fatah?

    About as much as Joe 'You Lie' Wilson.

    BTW Mitchell is not a cabinet member but a senator. Senators are appointed for life. There's no easy way to get rid of them. Probably easier to abolish the senate all together, which has been under discussion on and off over the years that I lived here.

  104. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    BTW I am very thankful we have outspoken, progressive Muslims like Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah up here. They provide a much needed reality check.

  105. Re:Childish, unprofessional, pathetic. Creative? N by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    Nope, it doesn't. You shouldn't comment on legal matters. You obviously have no knowledge of the subject.

    John Doe lawsuits are common. You sue John Doe for the damage, then use the court's powers of subpoena to identify the human that John Doe represents, and replace John Doe with the culprit. That's quite common. And you should know about that, being on Slashdot, as it's essentially what media companies suing uploaders do. Sue the IP, then attach a person to it later.

  106. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    Have you never heard him talk about Mexicans and the need for the wall? Have you never heard him talk about Muslims?

  107. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by AK+Marc · · Score: 1
    I've seen millions of attacks on Obama. Some were racist, some weren't. Rarely (never) was someone shouted down as "racist" unless they were obviously so. The attacks on his unemployment and such were never met with claims of "racist".

    California does not require any proof of citizenship to vote.

    A picture of a form with no context is proof of nothing. Most states require proof of citizenship to get a state ID. Some places will allow a person to "vote" without an ID, but require proof of citizenship to get on the voter rolls. So your photo of nothing shows nothing and proves nothing.

  108. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Not walking back anything, as an entertainer his racism wasn't of much consequence. You know I enjoy Wagner operas, too. Despite Wagner's well documented antisemitism.

    Can't help it, if you have a reading comprehension problem.

  109. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    Yeah, that's because you were already a leftist.

    Don't tell anyone this. There's actually a secret cabal of leftists. Not only do we have a secret handshake in real life, but there's also a database of known leftists and rightists. We have a browser plugin that highlights usernames with a known party affiliation on many common forums.

    That's why no one ever called me racist for criticising Obama, you see. Instead of reading what I wrote and deciding if my criticisms had racial overtones, they simply saw the little "leftist" flag next to my name. For you of course they saw the bright red flashing warning sign of a rightist.

    Or you know people actually read what I wrote.

    How can you be simultaneously pro-Obama and anti-globalism?

    Because I'm capable of realising that I like some things Obama does/did while disliking others. Overall, I think he was a decent president despite some bad missteps.

    Thing is you're viewing the world through your ludicrously partisan lens (rah rah left bad rah rah right good) and don't seem to realise that not everyone blindly cheers on "their team" in the same way that you do. In fact, some people don't feel an affiliation to any political party especially strongly.

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  110. Re:President Trump (tm) by painandgreed · · Score: 1

    Let's ask Donald Trump what he thinks of the electoral college:

    https://twitter.com/realDonald...

    Well, I'm not going to argue with him. Now that he is President, he can try and do something about it.

  111. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by DEN_GUY · · Score: 1

    Yeah he's such a dood he has put more whistle-blowers in prison and killed more IS citizens without trial than any other President. Rock on Bro!

  112. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    About time to leave your echo chamber and enter another one, where the MSM gave tons of free air time to Trump and the NYT is down on Hillary:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l...

  113. Re: Good to see mocking the President back in fash by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    I never said he is perfect, he just isn't who republicans claimed he was. The things you complained about - liberals also disliked, that's why we wanted an actual leftist this time. Why Sanders had so much support.
    But republicans acted like he was Fidel Castro, when in fact, he was the most Reagan-like president since Reagan himself ! And frankly - those scandals, bad as they are, pale in comparison to Reagan's scandals. At least Obama didn't actually commit high treason against the USA while he was president and then get a 4-star general to be his fall-guy.

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  114. Funny definition of "small handful" and "confused" by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    GOP politicians go on massive hunts looking for voter fraud after every election, and never comes up with anything but a small handful of people who were just confused.

    Here's a list of ~400 people who were not just charged, but convicted of voter fraud: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws....

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  115. How was the Senate in the picture? by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    it's the job of the Senate to ratify such a treaty

    You are correct; and grandparent's point was that the Administration, knowing that the "Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action" (JCPOA) with Iran -- which is a treaty by any reasonable definition* -- would not receive enough votes in the Senate, simply chose to implement the deal via executive action and not call it a treaty.

    The Senate could have simply ignored this semantic maneuver and held an up or down vote on the treaty, but it did not. Instead, it allowed a treaty to go into effect without performing its Constitutional duty to ratify.

    * A Wikipedia editor wrote, "The 159-page JCPOA document and its five appendices, is the most spacious text of a multinational treaty since World War II." This statement is sourced to a Persian-language BBC article.

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  116. Re: GRCUMB is a worthless fuck. by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    I read what you typed 3 times.

    Then I realized your IQ converted to watts wouldn't light a led christmas ornament.

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  117. Re:To be fair... by quantaman · · Score: 1

    To be fair, undocumented citizens did receive assurances that they would not be deported if they voted: http://www.bizpacreview.com/20...

    Cavuto is being an idiot or a liar. Re-watch the clip and listen closely.

    The questioner is asking a poorly phrased question about I don't know what.

    Obama is answering a question about US citizens who are co-residing with illegal immigrants, and those US citizens are concerned their names and addresses will be taken from the voter roles and used to deport the non-citizens they're living with.

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  118. Re:Funny definition of "small handful" and "confus by quantaman · · Score: 1

    GOP politicians go on massive hunts looking for voter fraud after every election, and never comes up with anything but a small handful of people who were just confused.

    Here's a list of ~400 people who were not just charged, but convicted of voter fraud: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws....

    400 people over at least 8 elections.

    About half are registering ineligible voters (no reason to think they actually voted, more likely someone trying to scam a turnout organization like happened to ACORN), or voting when ineligible (non-citizen? felon?).

    There were only 7 cases of impersonation at a poll, and it's unclear how many voter ID laws (the major push for the GOP) would have stopped.

    And I did see 32 cases of absentee ballot fraud.

    Are there more than listed there? Of course.

    But nothing that would sway an election, and certainly not "millions".

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  119. Re:Good to see mocking the President back in fashi by quax · · Score: 1

    Yes, the policy was started by his dad (who was also once arrested at a Klan's rally) but Jr. was aware of the policy and happily went along with it.

    As to the birther Hillary origination story, that has been debunked so many times it's not even funny that you still believe it.