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AMD's Major Radeon Software Graphics Driver Update Goes Live With Gameplay Capture, More (venturebeat.com)

Advanced Micro Devices, or AMD is launching an update for its Radeon graphics drivers that will help PC gamers enjoy more power-efficient gameplay during the holiday season. Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition offers high-performance gaming and better stability for consumers, professionals, and developers. From a report on VentureBeat: The new edition enables power-efficient gameplay with Radeon Chill and seamless in-game screen capture and streaming with Radeon ReLive. For designers, content creators, and game developers, Radeon Pro Software Crimson ReLive Edition delivers productivity and stability with up to 30 percent performance improvements in key applications. With Radeon ReLive, gamers can "relive" their gameplay by capturing, streaming, and sharing recorded gaming sessions. Highly efficient with minimal impact to gameplay, Radeon ReLive enables seamless playback of ReLive recordings via an easily accessible in-game toolbar, and offers quick and convenient customizable settings, custom scene layouts, and more, AMD said. With Radeon ReLive, gamers now have a way to capture gaming highlights, and share their gaming exploits and conquests with online friends and competitors -- all integrated within Radeon Software.

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  1. Re:God no by Osgeld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have 2 AMD cards on a windows 10 and windows 7 machines, never had any of these issues. Sounds like you just suck

  2. I gave up AMD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And went with Nvidia. Cheaper, more stable, better bang for the buck, and much better Linux support.

    1. Re:I gave up AMD... by Moheeheeko · · Score: 3, Funny

      And went with Nvidia. Cheaper, more stable, better bang for the buck

      in what universe?

  3. Re:God no by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have 2 AMD cards on a windows 10 and windows 7 machines, never had any of these issues. Sounds like you just suck

    I've never not had these problems. I've never had AMD drivers work properly without being hacked up by DnA. AMD has been crashing Windows for me since the Mach32 and Windows 3.1. (Don't even get me started on all the different Mach64 chipsets with different drivers.)

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  4. Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Say what you want about nvidia's bloatware, the driver installs are smooth as silk. AMD sends me to a browser page where I must try and figure out what download to select (considering the version numbers never match), then I have to download and install manually.

    Ugh. It's 2016, right? AMD's driver updates make me feel like I've timewarped to 1997.

    1. Re: Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1, Troll

      ATI catalyst has been replaced by Crimson. They auto update and break your system each update unless you turn it off manually.

  5. Re:God no by admin7087 · · Score: 1

    I don't understand AMD. Their drivers and software are bloatware and at the same time they don't allow you to tweak many settings by hand. Isn't it obvious that the vast majority of people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a high-end graphics card want the exact opposite? At least that seems obvious to me, and I've been gaming for more then twenty years.

  6. What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by Kartu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!!
    As of 2016, AMD drivers are better than nVidias.
    Crimson is rock solid and we'll see how Crimson ReLive will go.

    1. Re: What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Yep made it all up.

      My Nvidia 770 gtx was solid. AMD is a nightmare of never ending driver problems. I have owned ATI 5750, 7850, and now an Rx 470. Drivers break is a fact of life and you need certain ones that never change for a stable system.

      Yes, I reimaged my computer so it's not my system.

      Looks like I got a -1 and hey it worked on my computer there you must be stupid replies from the ATI fanboys.

    2. Re:What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Existing games run fine. New drivers always are chock full of crap I don't want. No need to upgrade.

      As far as preferences go, the AMD vs Nvidia fans trolling each other is just as moronic as the Democrat vs Republican fans trolling each other. Sure, buy and or vote for one, but don't make it your life's mission to attack someone with a different choice.

    3. Re: What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by phorm · · Score: 1

      Binary drivers break, but a lot of semi-recent and newer cards are actually supported by the in-kernel driver which should not break in most cases (usually the drivers breakage = won't build with current kernel or xorg).

    4. Re:What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by kuzb · · Score: 1

      LOL, ok. You keep telling yourself that. AMD consistently fails in every category except price when it comes to video cards. There's a reason nVidia dominates that landscape, and it has everything to do with the fact that when the chips are down it's hardware and software that works reliably.

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    5. Re:What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by Kartu · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should stop living in a shack out there somewhere.
      4 month after launch 480 pulled ahead of 1060:
      http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...

      470 trounced 1050Ti (30% faster) from the very beginning;

    6. Re:What year it is, you fucking paid shill?!! by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile every other benchmark tells a different story. Of course, there's the best benchmark too - real world usage where it consistently exposes AMD as awful. AMD is shit. It's your right to buy it, but don't try to tell me it's good. It isn't.

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  7. Re:Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by Kartu · · Score: 2

    No they aren't. From the major gaming forum:

    WARNING: Don't update your NVIDIA drivers, breaks memory speed, more
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/sh...

    Nvidia 372.54 drivers are bugged (video, games, textures, etc)
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/sh...

    Nvidia drivers 375.70 killed HDMI
    http://neogaf.site/forum/showt...

    Is the latest Nvidia Driver still fucked?
    http://assets.neogafllc.netdna...

    the latest:
    NVIDIA drivers are disappointing.
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/sh...

  8. Re:Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by tginouye · · Score: 1

    We'll see how it goes! I just had to downgrade from a GTX 970 to a pair of old Sapphire 6950's Crossfired. First AMD/ATI card since my old 9800 I had to buy to run Neverwinter Nights. At least they're old and I wont have to worry about new drivers every day? Wish me luck! (I haven't really had issues with AMD or Nvidia though, so perhaps I'm lucky, or AMD sees that I'm running an AMD CPU in this machine, and decides to play nice)

  9. Re:God no by vyvepe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I do not have problems with AMD drivers (Win7, HD7970). Though I did not update them for a long time. But I never had the strange problems with AMD drivers people seem to report.

  10. Works under Linux? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    For, after many attempts, I have yet to get any AMD binary blob to work under Linux for any AMD card.

  11. Re:God no by Moheeheeko · · Score: 2

    that's because they don't exist.

  12. Re: God no by Moheeheeko · · Score: 2

    Except when it doesn't, and your card re flows the soldier holding it together because the drivers suck. There's a reason nVidia was synonymous with house fires for about 5 years.

  13. Re: God no by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    Uh yeah Ok.

    Also the 7890 uses the older better catalyst drivers

  14. Re:God no by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I've never not had these problems. I've never had AMD drivers work properly

    Same here. This was the year I bought my first nVidia card (a 970) and have not looked back.

    I was always suckered in by the fact that generally the AMD drivers are a few dollars cheaper. Never again.

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  15. Re:God no by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Learn to use a computer?

    Says the guy who still hasn't figured out how to make a Slashdot account.

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  16. Re:Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh yeah, nVidia drivers:

    Install 'nVidia Experience' to download them smoothly, but have to sign up with nVidia to use it and then get your privacy shredded as they harvest pretty much anything they want (seemingly) from your computer and its activity to do (seemingly) whatever they want with your data.

    Or don't install the nVidia Experience software and download the drivers yourself (searching their website for the right version and installing it manually ... in 2016!!) and have to hunt around your computer to turn off their spyware telemetry ... just to get the harware you bought (and when you thought nVidia weren't pulling shady shit) to function.

    Oh yeah. That smooth as silk nVidia experience. Must be the lube they use as they probe your private areas.

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  17. Re:God no by SubtleGuest · · Score: 2

    Why are you buying drivers?

  18. Re:God no by ledow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In this day and age, any hardware causing a BSOD or freeze, I will assume faulty and remove.

    I can't honestly remember the last time I saw one that wasn't caused by that.

    The last BSOD I saw was 3 years ago while building a set of IBM BladeCenter blades. Their RAID card crashes if the default MS driver loads on 2012R2. 2012R2 wasn't officially supported at that point, so it was fair enough, but even then all I had to do was create an install disk with the IBM-supplied drivers (many YEARS ahead of the default MS ones) and it's worked flawlessly for years since on a number of BladeCenters without a problem under 2012R2 and heavy load.

    As a programmer, I can justify that - literally the MS driver is so out of date it can't have been written when that hardware was made, and it's not as "compatible" as the 2012 driver, or the 2008 driver but advertises itself to be and the vanilla Windows Setup (which has nothing else compatible with that hardware) tries to load it but BSOD because the hardware isn't what it was expecting. It was instant (on loading the driver via Windows Setup), reproducible, and obvious.

    Slipstream the Windows install and supplement the MS driver with anything written SINCE then and it picks the better driver and just works. That's fine by me. And an issue you'd only experience when doing major system upgrades or first-installs.

    But a BSOD other than that? I can't even remember. Had a couple of client drive failures and still no BSOD (wouldn't boot, but you'd expect problems beforehand). I would have to say it's been probably 8-9 years since any BSOD that wasn't obviously explainable (hardware obviously failing, computer overheating, or problems like the above).

    But a BSOD just because you updated a driver and reboot? No way. Why would you tolerate that on even a personal machine? That's data loss just waiting to happen.

    BSOD my machine without an obvious reason why (and not just "it's a new driver" or "it's not the latest driver") and your hardware will be replaced.

    I have a gaming laptop. I update the nVidia drivers precisely "when required" (i.e. a new game literally won't load without an update). That means I'm miles behind on versions. I kill all the taskbar apps and get rid of the dual-driver junk and whatever else, in any way I can. Still no BSOD. And when I update, the worst I expect is - very briefly - running on the internal Intel graphics until the new driver kicks in after a reboot.

    BSOD died with Windows XP, and those were mainly because it was hard to isolate processes from each other etc. If you have ANY piece of kit that still gives you them in anything even approaching a reproducible or frequent way, ditch it and buy something else.

    Same for kernel dumps (unless you've been fiddling with the kernel, they shouldn't happen) or whatever equivalent on Mac.

  19. Re: God no by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Bahaha

    Go use Windows 10 and your opinion will rapidly change. Also video drivers run in ring 0 so yes they still can take down a system

  20. Re:God no by war4peace · · Score: 1

    The post above was originally written in 2002.

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  21. Re:God no by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    Turns out Nvidia takes those few extra dollars and spends money making drivers that work

    Even on platforms that AMD won't touch like Solaris and FreeBSD. I just wish they'd port CUDA to FreeBSD.

  22. Re:Does my 390x save on heating costs? by Fwipp · · Score: 2

    Electric heaters are electric heaters.

    Your GPU is just an electric heater that happens to do computation as well.

  23. Are they making the Nvidia Experience mistake? by Rmorph · · Score: 1

    Genuine question - I don't know AMD products that well - My last 2 cards have been Nvidia and its time for an upgrade (I'm chugging on a gtx 780). Geforce Experience has a lot of these features that are being talked about - tied up in a ridiculous bloatware bundle - but they made it a sign-in service in the latest version. I've never seen such a stupid decision in my life. It was the easiest uninstall choice I ever make. Think about it.. they want you to login to a cloud service to use functions on your fucking graphics card. I couldn't believe it when I did the driver update and suddenly it wanted me to register my personal information. I will very seriously consider AMD the next time I do an upgrade -but I have to say that this news that AMD are going the bloatware route as well kind of alarms me because it sounds like AMD are looking at Nvidia's bloatware and thinking "Oh we should do that!" Are they? What's the difference between this and NV experience pre-signup.

    1. Re:Are they making the Nvidia Experience mistake? by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2

      Nvidia doesn't require any personal information so the solution is simple: create an Nvidia account using a mailinator e-mail address. Worked for me.

    2. Re:Are they making the Nvidia Experience mistake? by Kartu · · Score: 1

      AMD is going the opposite of "bloatware". Crimson drivers are sleek and small.

    3. Re:Are they making the Nvidia Experience mistake? by Kartu · · Score: 1

      Oh, and 480 just took over 1060, 4 months after release:
      http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...

      470 wiped the floor with 1050Ti (+30%-ish perf) upfront.

  24. Re:God no by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

    I've had 2 AMD 4870 cards on Windows 7 and they kept blue screening on boot pointing to the driver as the problem in the dumps. Upgrading was fun as well including one upgrade that forced a reinstall of Windows 7 to recover. I finally replaced them with slightly less powerful nVidia 560 cards (which brand I was using prior to the AMD cards) and while there were driver issues (driver has been restarted), I never had blue screens. My current system has a pair of nNivdia 970's and no issues since I bought them.

    [John]

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  25. Re:Will it feature almost daily awkward updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I avoid all of that trouble with this:
              sudo apt-get install nvidia-367

    Just the driver, no bloatware. Works great for my games.

  26. can they catch nvidia by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    but does it force me to create an online account randomly one day to use the app i been using and use the desktop recording? does the recording break ctrl 1-3 because if not screw that geforce experience for lyfe.

  27. Re:God no by phorm · · Score: 1

    So while nVidia is working on Solaris and FreeBSD, their newest driver won't work for recent cards on recent kernels. Meanwhile their old cards get stuck without support in their problem, leaving you with nouveau (which is kinda like having a procotological exam with a glove dipped in wasabi).

    I weighed heavily between both cards, and went with AMD since the OPEN SOURCE drivers have been given a *lot* of support by AMD, and work nicely without any third-party binary bullshit needed.

  28. Re:God no by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    That was long ago.. with Windows far, far away.

    Yes. And look how little has changed. ATI didn't know how to write drivers. Now, AMD doesn't know how to write drivers. So what's changed? Two letters.

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  29. Re: God no by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Some of us really don't give a shit about circlejerking around for mod points, sorry.

    You just circlejerk around for free?

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  30. Re:God no by strikethree · · Score: 1

    BSOD my machine without an obvious reason why (and not just "it's a new driver" or "it's not the latest driver") and your hardware will be replaced.

    Actually, when this happened to me with Windows 10 about a year ago, it was the trigger that woke me up and allowed me to honestly re-evaluate my life choices. I never tried to recover... upon reboot, instead of troubleshooting, I stuck in a bootable USB stick of Linux Mint 17.

    The closest I get to Windows on my personal computers now is to play Skyrim under Wine.

    I guess what I am saying is that I agree with your stance on BSOD; however, in this case, it was not hardware that was faulty but software. Windows 10 is terrible software regardless of the telemetry (which alone is reason enough to toss the garbage out).

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  31. Re: God no by kuzb · · Score: 1

    They were? That sounds a lot like something you made up.

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  32. Re:God no by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Not AMD.
    ATI.

    Yes yes, obvious mistake. I said when AMD acquired ATI and announced they would eventually bring the products under their name that it would be confusing, and it is.

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  33. Now It Makes Sense by Vince+Ferg · · Score: 1

    So I built my first PC since 2006 this year using the new RX480 in my new build. I work in IT and we use generic AMD cards in Dell computers at work all the time and don't really see any issues with blue screens but I am assuming they are more stable than the new cutting edge cards are. After reading through these comments I can now understand why my computer has blue screened twice since its build back in September. The error points at the video card so I didn't doubt it was the problem but seeing how common it is is also kind of scary... These 2 blue screens are literally the only times I have ever seen a Windows 8 or 10 device blue screen so it was a shock to see. I guess ill have to get this update later tonight but seeing all these comments I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for a permanent solution to the cards stability. Guess next time I should save my money for the more pricier Nvidea card like I did in 2006 if I want to enjoy stability.