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Donald Trump To Tech Leaders: 'No Formal Chain Of Command' Here (cnbc.com)
A confab of tech titans had a "productive" meeting with President-elect Donald Trump at Trump Tower on Wednesday, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos told CNBC, as Trump moved to mend fences with Silicon Valley before taking office in January. Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Intel, Oracle, IBM, Cisco and Tesla were among the C-suite executives in attendance, with Apple CEO Tim Cook and Tesla CEO Elon Musk expected to get private briefings, according to transition staff. From the report: "We want you to keep going with the incredible innovation," Trump said. "There's no one like you in the world. ... anything we can do to help this go along, we're going to be there for you. You can call my people, call me -- it makes no difference -- we have no formal chain of command around here." At the meeting, Trump introduced billionaire Wilbur Ross, his Commerce secretary pick, and Goldman Sachs executive Gary Cohn, his choice for director of the National Economic Council. "They're going to do fair trade deals," Trump said. "They're going to make it easier for you to trade across borders, because there are a lot of restrictions, a lot of problems. If you have any ideas on that, that would be great."
At the meeting, Trump introduced billionaire Wilbur Ross, his Commerce secretary pick, and Goldman Sachs executive Gary Cohn, his choice for director of the National Economic Council.
i mean technically if you overfill a swamp with foetid detritus it will eventually matriculate into neighbourhoods, roads, schools, hospitals, and occasionally even an intended estuary or two. lets just give him a chance and see if he works out.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Trump is going to find out people are not going to "just call the president" because all of those calls get blocked by the switchboard. Trump is going to find out that casual phone calls do not happen as president, his schedule is locked down to the minute. This boiler maker atmosphere that trump seems to enjoy is going to be counter productive in an environment where decisions need to be made and then acted on and revisiting choices wastes time that needs to be used on other decisions coming in the door.
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Trump said. "If you have any ideas on that, that would be great."
http://media.coindesk.com/uplo...
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One of the problems tesla faces is not being able to open dealerships across the country. Would it be a good thing is Trump helped that out?
I an a Democrat and voted for Hillary, but to answer your question:
Yes it would be a good thing because, the way laws are governing dealerships , the car manufacturers distribution channel has a built in middleman that in short artificially inflates the cost of automobiles in general. It is not a monopoly by any measure, because you can always drive down the road to another dealership, but if I wanted to start up a new Chevy dealership, I cannot do it by law because each dealership has it's territory that I would be infringing upon. This is a situation where law trumps fairness and kind of stomps on the little guy/small business in an anti-competitiive way.
This is why the existing dealerships had a collective shit-fit when Musk floated the idea he wanted to distribute Teslas directly to the consumer. The very idea in the eyes of the car dealership industry as a whole paints them as a canard in much the same way that Napster and then iTunes did with the music industry and it took a business who was already a major player to make it happen (in the case of Apple with iTunes) when it was Napster and Limewire, the collective thought was that the music industry was going to collectively sue the little guy out of existence and they did. This is pretty much the same situation, however Musk does already have the wherewithal to protect his product legally and fight enough to carve a niche out for his product.
I say this about Trump doing this being a good thing, because it would not have happened under a Clinton administration. If Trump pulls this off, it might change my opinion about him in a positive way for starters.
And yet here you are.
I strongly doubt half of the posters here are pro Trump, one of the shocks has been some prominent usually conservative RWNJ posters lack support for him.
Man I'm so jealous at you Americans. Ever since Trump will most probably be president you live in a fairy-tale paradise! Everything will be better! It's amazing! He's the best president in the world.
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You must be in a bubble of your own. It really is a commonly-shared sentiment. Or, at any rate, was as recently as this summer.
Hardly surprising, given the personal politics of the overwhelming majority of journalists.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
It sounds good. Makes him seem like an every man. And once again we're talking about something meaningless instead of demanding to know what went on at the meeting.
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Why not? There's still people around here blaming Bush...
Well, to the sound bite world we live in, it does sound unreasonable to blame past Presidents for current troubles. Like, why should be blame Lincoln for the getting the US through the Civil War and freeing the slaves? Why do we still blame him after all these years?!
And blaming FDR for leading us through the Depression - even though many of the programs he got through Congress really didn't work. And he dragged his feet into getting us into WWII. And blaming Truman for dropping the A-Bomb on Japan! We still do that!
MAybe - just maybe and bear with me - because it's HISTORY.
And when folks look back on the beginning of the 21st Century, they are going to see that the US went into two horrible wars based on the incompetence of the Bush II Administration. They are going the see the ramifications - like the creation of ISIS. They are going to see a budget shot to shit. They are going to see a financial collapse - that did have it's roots in the Clinton administration but never the less came to frustration with the lax regulatory environment of a Republican controlled government.
And then we'll see how the next President got stuck with the problems and through brinkmanship and obstruction by the Republicans in Congress for all 8 years of his term, he was barely able to get anything done - but blamed him for it - even though they kept on these ridiculous quests and held the government hostage to get rid of the ACA and defund Planned Parenthood over some video that was a lie.
And now that they are back in power? They are going to replace the ACA - OK good - but not get rid of it because now it's "their" idea.
So, I will keep blaming Bush for the stupidity and the utter nonsense we're in - especially the crap in the Middle East. Thanks to Bush, there will NEVER be peace in the Middle East and we the USA are going to have to deal with it for the rest of our existence - and frankly, I think it's contributing to our current downfall.
All I can say is it'll be very interesting to see what happens over the next 4 years. He's basically signaling to every single corporation out there that favors are available for the right price (see Carrier, Ford, etc.) The first thing tech executives are going to ask for is the removal of limits on the H-1B program. This way they can import the workers themselves and not have to go through the body shops to reduce IT and developer salaries. (I think the program is fine and sometimes necessary, but using it to replace a mid- to late-career $100K DBA or sysadmin with a new, mediocre $50K one who won't complain about mandatory unpaid weekend work is not keeping with the spirit of the law.)
No matter how much of an egomaniac I became, I would never want this job. Imagine having to keep hundreds of millions of exceedingly diverse people protected, somewhat happy and balance the diplomatic demands from other countries against your own interests. Seeing Trump's picks for advisors, I wonder how this is going to work out. Yes, Clinton "lost" and I accept that, but I am a little upset that we're getting a real estate huckster, surrounding himself with pro-business buddies, who all seem ready to fire-sale the country to the highest bidder. Hopefully the balance of power will keep some of this in check, but with majorities in both houses he's going to have a very long time with little opposition, and a lot can happen.
The other interesting thing is that he has a lot of very different groups of people who voted him in to satisfy. The religious nuts are going to want abortion bans and fully privatized education, the libertarian/tea party crowd is going to want the government dismantled piece by piece starting with the healthcare law, and all the factory workers are going to want their jobs back. How do you satisfy all of these?
This would be a bad thing because this sets the precedent of the Feds dictating what rights states have to make their own laws. What next? Would Trump then start revoking all the recent laws laws governing recreational and medical marijuana?
I am come down on the state rights side of issues. Tesla selling cars anywhere but their home state pretty clearly falls under Interstate Commerce though- it's not a corner case of interstate commerce it's right in the center of the sort of thing the Federal Govt was given the power to make rules regarding. The Feds are definately allowed to stomp on attempts by states to restrict interstate commerce.
Isn't selling a car in Texas that is built in California considered interstate commerce?
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Our traffic has been growing since my company acquired Slashdot, regardless of what Alexa says. Also, reporting a direct quote from the President of the United States to tech leaders is not "partisan". Posting NYT revenue stats from the Daily Caller IS. Lastly, we do not do things around here in order to increase traffic. We cover things we think are worth covering. If you're triggered by a direct quote then perhaps you should just scroll past the story.
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Trump didn't even make the list.
http://www.opensecrets.org/org...
Clinton, Hillary (D) Pres $316,977
Rubio, Marco (R-FL) Senate $218,975
Bush, Jeb (R) Pres $203,550
Portman, Rob (R-OH) Senate $87,600
Ayotte, Kelly (R-NH) Senate $74,400
McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA) House $72,800
Bennet, Michael F (D-CO) Senate $64,400
Cruz, Ted (R-TX) Senate $58,240
He may be appointing them, but there's nothing showing he's beholden to them. Certainly not anymore than Sec. Clinton might have been.
The friends of Putin have lost the elections and are spending their hours in the waiting rooms of the therapists dealing with grief.
Here is, what real friendship looks like
Trump? Oh, yes, he wouldn't reveal his tax-returns, so he must be on Putin's payroll. Right...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Shows you how far Dell has fallen when he isn't even invited to the kiddie table.
"...we have no formal chain of command around here."
...says the Commander in Chief.
It's times like this that we should consider military experience as a mandatory prerequisite to holding this position.
Trump has done absolutely nothing to recognize the fact that he will be responsible for wielding a military sword to go along with that corporate pen of his.
Perhaps if he pulled his head out of his biznass long enough, he would realize that.
Lol? He mentioned me in his comment and I responded. I also own the place, not an employee.
If Clinton was President-Elect, and had said this, we would cover it.
I have to agree with Whipslash.
The most visible metric for Slashdot's readership is the "number of comments per story". That certainly doesn't appear to be decreasing. However, I will say that the quality of comments has been slowly decreasing for many years. Don't blame the ACs for that, though - nobody should get a +2 starting bonus for their posts, however good their karma is. Cap the bonus at +1 and let them earn their upmods. Give out a few extra mod points to balance the system out if you have to.
So Taco and the other editors never used to respond to comments? Oh wait, yes they did.
The "demise of Slashdot" has been declared and/or predicted thousands of times in the comments, and yet here we all are.
"They're going to make it easier for you to trade across borders, because there are a lot of restrictions, a lot of problems. If you have any ideas on that, that would be great."
I thought he was against free trade. It was one of the defining features of his campaign, that he was going to back out of every trade deal going.
This is what I find so alarming.It's the sheer unpredictability of the guy. He's so scatterbrained that he can't even remember what was said a few minutes ago, to say nothing of months ago.
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I was pointing out some facts. Carry on.
Can you point out where I ad hominem attacked someone? Also I didn't delete any comments.
Keep up the good work!
As someone whose been around as a lurker from almost the beginning, i would recommend people who don't like the way the site has become take a trip down the way-back machine. Everything old is new again. The articles have always followed the same general format and subjects. The conversations have generally followed the same format and digressions. The only thing that seems to change around here are the grumpies who want to complain about how much it's changed. Sure, a few of the conversations are a little more hostile. Sometimes, but this discourse has been here from the beginning on anything that might be remotely interpreted as political. //rant: But, at the end of the day, we are all sharing our opinions in an effort to find the truth. A little open mindedness goes a long way to productive and meaningful discourse. Everybody is not always right. Calling it fake news because or a contextual error is disingenuous. You're basically take the nuclear route on your own discussion. To call out a grammatical error is acceptable.
I'll just end the rant there before I get carried away.
That's not what your referenced article says. You read it wrong.
That's partly because Republicans are growing increasingly anti-subject-expert, and that's against the very idea of universities, specialists, and science. Prayer and "common sense folks-logic" is their new guiding star.
Republicans changed.
The fact that some progressives care about money doesn't contradict my point. Learn set theory.
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Climate science is not a 'left' issue. Sorry. The uptick in political articles was due to the recent election. They will subside.
No no. Wait people, give this post a chance. It's actually quite insightful.
Climate change is science. But it's science that "the Left" cares about, and "the Right" does not. And talking about it therefore makes Slashdot a partisan hack and pisses off a subset of Slashdot.
This guy wants his news bubble enforced. A news site he goes to is talking about a topic he wants to ignore. And he is upset.
That is true that left and right simply isn't good enough, and the Nolan chart is a step in the right direction, but I still think it doesn't go nearly far enough. I find myself wanting to be further left than the top of the chart, but also further up than the left of the chart, in a region outside the chart entirely.
This is the political spectrum I think in.. The orientation of my chart is a bit of a compromise; the original sense of the terms "left" and "right" would run from what on that chart is upper left to lower right (which is the sense in which I meant "left" in my previous post), while a growing modern sense of the terms tends to run from what on that chart is lower left to upper right, so I've oriented it halfway between those.
Things tend to drift downward and rightward by default unless actively fought against -- that's where we started from, before anyone had the thought that maybe governments should be anything more than the reign of strong men over weak -- and those positions are stable, easily entrenched, and hard to escape from. Things in the upper half and left half meanwhile are unstable and tend to easily collapse -- back to the lower right, of course. That makes those (far upper and far left) positions impractical, but they're exactly the kind of crazy I think we need to make people realize just how far off the spectrum we think in true moderation is. In addition to that, we also need more moderate "right"-libertarians (like the Libertarian party) and European style social democrats (like the Green party).
I find the mainstream Democratic party as expressed in recent decades (Clinton and Obama) to be a lukewarm centrist compromise position, neither libertarian enough nor socialist enough, but certainly a better alternative than contemporary Republicans, who share most of the same flaws and then add a bunch of their own; just so long as they can avoid slipping down into their own form of "left"-authoritarianism that's just as bad in a different way.
But we really need the crazies way out in the upper left lunatic fringe to shift the perceived center up and to the left; not actually out into that fringe, but further away from the black hole of tyranny we (everyone) are always continually slipping toward unless we can manage to fight it.
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