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Germany Threatens To Fine Facebook Over Hate Speech (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: German officials are stepping up their criticism of Facebook, saying the social network is doing too little to stop hate speech and could face stiff fines unless it deletes illegal content faster. In an interview published Friday, Justice Minister Heiko Maas said his ministry was checking whether it would be possible to make social networking sites legally liable for illegal posts. Germany has seen a sharp increase in vitriolic posts on social media in recent years amid a heated public debate over the influx of more than a million migrants since the start of 2015. The country has laws against speech deemed to be racist, defamatory or inciting violence -- a response to Germany's Nazi legacy. But authorities have struggled with the deluge of often anonymous postings on foreign-owned websites. Thomas Oppermann, a senior lawmaker in Maas' Social Democratic Party, told German weekly Der Spiegel that dominant social media sites like Facebook could be required to delete illegal posts within 24 hours or face fines up to 500,000 euros ($522,000). Facebook also could be compelled to distribute corrections that reach the same number of people as the original post, Oppermann suggested, something traditional media companies in Germany are already required to do.
All the influx of refugee's from Syria is causing a rebellion of the German people. Repressing it won't solve it.
content should only be illegal after a judge analizes it, after the fact
otherwise is plain old censorship
What if we made homeowners responsible for hateful graffiti scrawled on their house? Or pubs and cafes liable for what is discussed there?
John_Chalisque
When the United States practices censorship, they're lambasted on here. However, when European countries engage in censorship, everyone seems okay with it. Why is there a double standard on censorship?
Furthermore, why is it okay for Germany to force their laws on an American company? If the United States was trying to force their laws on a German company, especially if they were trying to force a German company to censor content that's legal in Germany, Slashdot readers would be up in arms. Why is there a double standard?
Dude, if you think what comes out of Bruxelles is "leftist", you might want to watch out, you're about to fall off the right end of the political spectrum.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
.. in the first place?
It's an American country.
What happen if Facebook simply says "fuck off"?
Now the EU are banning (?) negative speak about refugees from the parties.
But how is that even the problem? The problem is that our traitor government let these people in in the first place. We don't want them here. That's the scenario. Why are they brought in? EU, Germany and Sweden are the enemies of the European peoples and democracy.
Seriously online companies need to start charging Germany for all the nanny sitting they require for their citizens, Basically cancel all outstanding lawsuits and give them 10 millions dollars. They just might break even.
I don't even like Facebook. But it's still like.... oh a company is making money... lets sue. Almost as bad as my home state of California.
Umm, Germany is a German country.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
.. in the first place?
It's an American country.
I assume you mean company? But it's not. The parent company is, but it has subsidiaries all over the world.
What happen if Facebook simply says "fuck off"?
Then the German police will raid Facebook's German offices.
We don't want them here.
Speak for yourself. I'm only here because enough people did not have your shitty attitude to my great grandparents who were also refugees from persecution.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Simple solution, close the German offices...
And in Spain it is illegal to criticise the Monarchy and the Church. Better use VPN+Tor, not necessarily in this order.
Dude, if you think what comes out of Bruxelles is "leftist", you might want to watch out, you're about to fall off the right end of the political spectrum.
I think you and OP are confusing 'Left-Right' with 'more-authoritarian/less-authoritarian'. Either can be very authoritarian. Left at it's extreme is Marxist/socialist/communist and Right at it's extreme is fascist/dictatorship.
It's like a set of railroad tracks. One rail is Left, the other Right, and stretch from anarchy to authoritarian.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Just close it down, with a nice explanatory page about why and what needs to be done to get it back.
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
If the homeowner DID point a web cam to it and decided to keep it after being reported it is hate speech ? Yes. The painting is not the problem, the publishing is. If the café took a loudspeaker in the street and fully knew it was hate speech after it was reported ? Again yes as the publishing is the problem.
Facebook is the publisher. Facebook get a reports like *ALL* media , and has to take it down , like a DMCA in the US for comparison, or be liable. And if you find the law bad, well remember it was set by the allies and forced onto the german. Germany cannot really remove it if they wanted, as they would get pretty much all EU countries angry and possibly be accused of wanting to go nazi again.
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WHY? Why in the fuck would a company be that fucking stupid? What would that gain them except subjection to STUPID laws like this one? Look, I hate Facebook with a vengeance. I wish it would die. But how could any company be that stupid?
She's number 4 on the list of most popular politicians in Germany. Her party is still 14 percentage points in front of every other party. 50% think she is doing a good job.(Source) Yes, there is a vocal minority that hates her and calls the media "Lügenpresse" or lying press and vote for the new right-wight populist party "AfD"(12%) but far more people either support Merkel's party (36%) or center to left-wing parties (22%+10%+10%). And this isn't just MSM, many of the federal states of Germany had elections this year and while AfD had impressive gains, it is nowhere near a majority anywhere.
Jan
They still want to sell ads to German companies and to German customers. They also want to get paid for these ads. Volkswagen is a German company, but they still need to abide American laws while selling cars in the US. They could let their American subsidy go bankrupt and stop selling cars instead of paying the fine. But instead they will pay the fine and keep their access to the US market, because this is likely going to pay off in the long term. The same is likely true for Facebook. They don't like to employ a lot of people to check posts that were flagged for hatespeech because that takes a lot of time and reduces the amounts of ads they can sell to racists. But if they have to choose between operating slightly less profitable in Germany or not at all, they will likely go for slightly less profitable.
Jan
Sorry, but that is just plain bullshit. You fully allowed to criticize migrants and immigration in Germany. What is not allowed is to incite hatred or violence against them and Jailterm based on this law rarely happens.
Jan
Having failed to force the sun to shine at night and the wind to blow constantly all the time, the German legal system is trying to force people to like a vast swarm of insurgents who arrived without visas and who are getting away with Allah knows what.
Did your grandparents have the same shitty attitude as the current crop of "refugees"? Or did they fit in and pull their weight?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I wrote a reply just after how I meant an American COMPANY and how I hadn't eaten yet but I couldn't post it then because of the time delay and then it never got posted.
What I meant was that Facebook is an American company and I don't necessarily see why whatever national law should apply to any country in the world.
Then again that may very well be how it is in this case.
I of course never meant Germany was part of America.
Well your citations totally convinced me.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Then the German police will raid Facebook's German offices.
Just close them down and ignore the Germans?
Speak for yourself.
As for volumes I'm speaking for the majority even in Sweden and I of course also speak for the majority of the Europeans.
I'm only here because enough people did not have your shitty attitude to my great grandparents who were also refugees from persecution.
My opinion doesn't even matter since the ruling elite is possibly even beyond the EU but if nothing else there and that's law which become superior to Swedish law and even if that wasn't the case Sweden is a consensus democrature where established media and the political elite holds hands and go their own way and don't listen to the people but rather tell the people what they should believe and accept.
I can raise it (and be hushed in all mainstream and social media and possibly jailed or killed for it) but unless half+ of the Swedish population voted for the same alternative it will have little result. And even then as said we're ruled by the EU and they can still decide against the will of the Swedish politicians and people. We could of course leave the EU and should. Eventually if we talked things like deportation the UN would likely be upset too.
Also the attitude isn't shitty just because you say so. It's a sane attitude.
If nothing else the welfare system should be completely abolished so we don't attract people who don't want freedom and Swedish culture but come from the money such as the guy who punched out the teeth of the teacher who talked to his wife. He's obviously not here because of his great knowledge about the Swedes and their society beyond how much money he could leech from the system.
Why does any multinational do it? Because they have to have a registered presence in a country to do business there.
This wouldn't apply if you're selling knitted toilet roll covers via spamazon and turning over 50 bucks a year in Portugal.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
US Politics is when judged against the more centerist European Politics VERY right wing.
It's only 'centrist' to those whose ideological 'center' is more Left. It's a matter of personal perceptions of the individual being asked and/or stating his opinion.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
It is your voice that is mostly ignored.
Are you even reading what you are writing? Because
So you aren't speaking for the majority in Sweden after all. Who exactly gives you the mandate to speak for the majority of the Europeans then?
The last time I was in Sweden was in 1992 and people like you are the reason why it will stay that way. Same goes for Poland by the way. Your neighbour Finland is a far more pleasant place, I've visited it 5 or 6 times already and will visit again.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
What make it possibly for Germany to find Facebook in the first place?
Assuming you mean "fine", then if Facebook operates as a business in Germany, then the German state can most certainly take punitive measures against it.
It's an American country.
I feel safe in saying that Facebook is not a country.
What happen if Facebook simply says "fuck off"?
The same as if any other German company refuses to follow German law. Of cause, if they aren't in Germany as a legal entity, then Germany has options via the EU courts, or they can choose to simply block access to Facebook similar to how they already block access to other websites deemed to be illegal.
Now the EU are banning (?) negative speak about refugees from the parties.
There exists no such EU law, nor can it exist. Read the EU charter.
But how is that even the problem? The problem is that our traitor government let these people in in the first place. We don't want them here. That's the scenario. Why are they brought in? EU, Germany and Sweden are the enemies of the European peoples and democracy.
Enough people in Europe wants to help the refugees, even if you prefer people go die somewhere away from where you live.
Freedom of speech and freedom of religion in the EU can be restricted for lots of reasons.
Of course they can outlaw criticism of refugees.
Google translate this:
http://jyllands-posten.dk/inte...
https://translate.google.se/tr...
"EU Parliament wants countries to speak well of refugees
Member states should stay away from hate speech about refugees for their own political gain."
"EU member states must refrain from encouraging fear and hatred against migrants and asylum seekers for their own political gain.
It says the European Parliament in a new report on fundamental rights. It's Tuesday has been voted through parliament with an overwhelming majority.
- We have seen an increase in hate speech from political parties throughout Europe, says JÃzsef Nagy, a member of the EPP Group in the European Parliament and rapporteur for the report.
EU spokesman for the Danish People's Party Kenneth Kristensen Berth said recently that the EU's border guards can use warning shots against boat people. The shots were to get migrants to return.
It may be an example of a hateful expression in the EU Parliament will curb, says JÃzsef Nagy.
- We experience these outbreaks and it is not only in Denmark but throughout Europe.
- I do not think that he is serious about shooting refugees, but we must be vigilant. We can not allow the political dialogue become violent threats, says Nagy.
Instead of the negatively charged dialogue should member states according to the report promoting the European values ââof freedom and equality.
Tolerance and a sense of community will counter stigma. At the same time it will prevent radicalization and violent extremism, says the European Parliament in the report.
In addition, it will help EU citizens to have a more positive view of integration.
- Our union must not only deal say with legal and financial problems. The EU must also deal with the question of fundamental rights and set a good example, says JÃzsef Nagy."
The majority likely don't want to be invaded by them, I know that here in Sweden the majority consistently wish for less. And that's in a lied upon system which I think may also have the most positive people in the EU towards it? But feel free to give actual evidence for what you claim rather than just stating it.
They don't need to die. Here in Sweden lots of private services are bought with public funding. We could simply buy refugee shelter of whatever quality we thought was decent from the lowest bidder among other nations. Preferably nations which are closed to the area where there is trouble. Alternatively we could just not offer them any citizenship or welfare and then they came anyway or they didn't and went somewhere else instead.
Why don't Germany just send those filthy racists to “improvement camps” in Poland?
“Labour makes you free (from racism)”
This oft-cited sentiment was first verbalized by a Supreme Court Justice in 1919. The case was not about any actual fire or theater, but about a man distributing leaflets and otherwise agitating against World War I draft. The protester was trying to defend his speech by the First Amendment and failed.
As later anti-draft protests — and the legal reaction to them — made clear, such speech is now not only legal, but commendable.
As the 1919 case I cited above makes regretfully if abundantly obvious, the difference is not at all "distinct", and the country's top legal minds can very well err on the side of oppression. That later-amended decision passed by SCOTUS unanimously...
Even today, a sizable portion of Americans — plenty of lawyers among them — would consider Donald Trump's speech "hateful" and "inflammatory", making it most tempting for the party at the helm of the Executive branch to prosecute him, thus helping their own candidate win. Do you really want a country like that? Oh, wait.... You probably do...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Simple solution, close the German offices...
Out of interest, are you American? I ask, because there's a certain group of Americans here who seem to assume that anything that isn't America is tiny. Germany has an economy about 1/4 of the size of the US. That is an immmense amount of business. I'm not sure Facebook's shareholders would consider it a good solution. That makes it not simple.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
They don't like to employ a lot of people to check posts that were flagged for hatespeech because that takes a lot of time and reduces the amounts of ads they can sell to racists. But if they have to choose between operating slightly less profitable in Germany or not at all, they will likely go for slightly less profitable.
Clearly they need to obey the laws of the countries where they do business, and facebook.de needs to comply. However, they may not need to hire additional staff if they simply automatically delete any flagged post containing certain words; that would mean they only have to check ones that are flagged but do not contain the auto-delete words.Sure it would probably result in deletion of non-offensive material as well but it would be cheaper than adding staff.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Did your grandparents have the same shitty attitude as the current crop of "refugees"? Or did they fit in and pull their weight?
Great grandparents.
Fit in? No, not especially. My great grandmother had passable English at best, and very heavily accented, from what little I remember of her. I believ my greatgrandfather did better in that regard, but I don't think either of them would have spent much time if any hanging around the natives. And, pull their weight how? It's not like they arrived with jobs lined up. What part of "refugee" is unclear?
My grandparents (1st generation born here) all grew up in slums. Most of them did pretty well for themselves despite that. My great grandparents did get jobs after eventually, but before then I expect there were as dependent on the soup kitchens and shelters as many of the other fellow regugees at that time. There was also a charity that gave interest free loans to them to help them get on their feet after they arrived.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
WHY? Why in the fuck would a company be that fucking stupid? What would that gain them except subjection to STUPID laws like this one? Look, I hate Facebook with a vengeance. I wish it would die. But how could any company be that stupid?
Complying with local business registration laws aside, there are advantages to having subsidiaries. For example, it allows companies to decide where profits are booked rather than having all of the money flow back to the US; it also affords them legal protections offered to local firms and can separate liability form the parent and the local company. For companies that sell hard goods it also allows them to setup different warranty schemes and not have to honor a warranty world wide. Complying with local laws is one price they pay for such benefits.
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Look the definition of censure, Herr Comrade
I am European, no doubt about that. Have a look at my profile.
As much as I do not enjoy facebook malevolence, I am also not particularly fond of each little nazi country trying to legislate the Internet, or worse yet, the latest global brouhaha/propaganda about malicious/fake/illegal content in facebook.
The truth is the powers that be want to control information, and many good people in the establishment is not at ease people only see and believe what they want "in facebook".
Wake up and smell the coffee, people also read whatever news they fancy in the newspapers, buy specialised mags of questionable content, and google what they fancy.
what next, will they assign Herr Merkel to my house to look over my shoulder to my Google searchs, or will use metadata and cut out your Internet access if you do not access the sites party once every two weeks?
They can do business with Germans without actually being in Germany. There are literally Germans all over the planet, so it should be no trouble finding employees who speak the language regardless of where they would like to operate their German sales office. Then Germany will have to go after each individual German (or German company) which does business with Facebook, and/or ban access to their domain.
This is the mechanism by which the internet routes around censorship. If Facebook doesn't do this, that's fine; some other chat system which does will become more popular because of the lack of censorship.
Regardless of these laws' origin, they are harmful today. They drive hate speech to places where it is more difficult to track.
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So now Germany, the most vibrant economy in Europe, is now sliding back down a totalitarian path. Freedom of speech, freedom of association, all are disappearing. So long, Germany!
It is your voice that is mostly ignored.
I'm well aware of that.
What I meant was that if Facebook doesn't deal with Germany then shouldn't they be able to simply say fuck off to them?
So you aren't speaking for the majority in Sweden after all.
I am speaking for the majority of the Swedes when it come to how many refugees should be brought it.
Immigration is still at the very top together with was it hospital and possibly school? among the Swedish people having dropped from being the single most important thing for the Swedish people. But before it haven't been the most important thing and for many it of course aren't and some even want more refugees. Anyway as such when people vote they vote on a party DUE OF A MULTITUDE OF REASONS not ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY IMMIGRATION POLITICS IS! Hence people haven't voted for the only party which has been against this retardness (a situation which likely happened because that party thought so and then everyone was like "oh no the Nazis are coming!" so they dug themselves deep onto the mud in a "Sweden for everyone or Nazi!"-message.)
Who exactly gives you the mandate to speak for the majority of the Europeans then?
I have no mandate to do so I just do so.
What idiots like you with your consistent lies don't mention is that there are polls which are made regarding immigration which for instance ask whatever Sweden should take in more or less immigrants and in such a poll less will come out higher than more consistently and as such obviously the Swedes want less immigrants. .. They aren't what one should vote for unless one is an ideological nutcase.
That they vote on traitor parties which don't care about that part and flood us with immigrants is a different story. Sure it's totally mental to vote on those idiots and traitors but they do so. Personally I myself have voted on the environmentalist party which are the most extreme when it comes to mass-immigration and I've done so for three elections in a row but I of course didn't do so because I loved immigrants so much I did so because I thought trying to solve the impact of global warming for instance once it had already happened would be more expensive than adjusting in an attempt to never let it go that far. I care about the environment and non-humans of the planet but that doesn't mean I want hundred of thousands of Muslims to come to my land every year. It's two different questions even if the same party may want to have both of them. It's one of the most progressive parties of Sweden but they are more or less complete nutcases with no care whatsoever to what happened to the people or the economy so
The last time I was in Sweden was in 1992 and people like you are the reason why it will stay that way.
Stay how? I guess you don't mean in Sweden but rather why you won't visit?
Back in 1992 we had the then highest flow of immigrants back then from former Yugoslavia, the anti-immigration movement was stronger back then but then the establishment more or less killed it but in their last attempt to keep on killing it by giving no influence to the Sweden democrats and by flooding Sweden with MORE immigrants in an attempt to show that voting for the Sweden democrats was futile backfired and now it's one of the three largest parties in Sweden so.. they kinda fucked that one up by making us desperate. They will likely try even more but then maybe people will act even more desperate.. Good times .. Idiots.
Same goes for Poland by the way.
Poland and Sweden isn't comparable. In Poland being against immigrant is totally common, they are a sane nation not flooded with that shit. The number of Swedes who talk like I do is a very small part of the Swedish population. Sure people think they have brought in too many immigrants but the people are friendly and don't want to upset others so
Interested in the results of this. Yesterday I reported a Facebook post that said "someone has to assassinate [American politician] ..". Today got a replay from the Facebook moderators that this was an okey dokey message. Well then..
Was bist du denn fürn Fake-Deutscher?
... it's German law and fuck the rest of you.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Apparently not, otherwise idiots like you would be the government.
Then I have the same right to speak for the people of Europe and say "fuck you". Just because.
Quote one single lie I have said. Go on. I dare you.
You can't. Dumbass.
Nope, I won't visit. I'll spend my hard-earned German Euros elsewhere. If anything will ruin Sweden, then it will be this kind of an economic boycott, not the immigrants. Russia brought Turkey into submission with exactly that - tourists staying out.
Besides, Stockholm is quite boring, except maybe the Vasa museum, but it is not something that makes the country worth of revisiting.
Very much comparable, I think. Both countries are full of bad food, bad weather and bad people.
So you admit that you have lied when you have said that the majority of Swedish population thinks like you? So you are a dumbass and a liar. Yep, thanks for demonstrating that. It is like on a banner on a house in Berlin I've seen a couple of years ago: "Nazis sind dumm und haben kleine Pimmel". Swedish is similar enough to German for you to understand how well this sentence fits you and your kind.
Destroyed? You little shit don't know how a destroyed country looks like. I have seen several during my trips.
Sure people think they have brought in too many immigrants but the people are friendly and don't want to upset others so they will just shut up about it.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Look the definition of censure, Herr Comrade
It clearly is censorship but that is the current German law. Views on freedom of speech differ by country.
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Really?? I hate that.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
Jaja, aber Kartoffelbrei, ich bin mit der Fernsehrturm verheiraten.
If yelling FIRE was disallowed by the theater owner, that would be fine.
Also no talking during the movie.
There are many extremely strong restrictions and relaxations that people can agree to, and that is fine: No swearing in my barbershop. The boxers agree to punch each other in a boxing ring. The flutist in an orchestra agrees to breath as directed.
If the rules are unpopular, then people won't participate and they will provide alternatives. If some forums want to be NSFW and some want to be insult-free, then so be it.
The trouble is with un-owned or government-owned spaces, or venues that receive taxpayer money. Those are contentious because whatever rules will be decided will be one-size-fits-all monopoly rules.
Freedom of speech only pertains to government interference. Rationally, it is hard to justify the proportionality of using coercion (for example, fines with threats of prison and armed enforcement) in response to speech.
These comments are mine; I do not speak for my employer.
And you turned out to be an guy who favors welfare for all and objects to any criticism of refugees. Gee, who saw that coming. You probably feel virtuous every time you post in favor of people-like-you, and horrified when other do just the same thing.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Lack of free speech is an issue for all of Europe, not just Germany. For that matter, obsessive multiculralism is the new new problem for all of Europe (except the U.K. soon).
Protip, German cluetards: Quite aside from the personal liberty issue you're blowing so badly here, it's always better to let the crazies sing, dance, speechify, and wear silly outfits. This way everyone knows who they are and you don't end up getting blindsided by some bastard(s) percolating in their own repressed hate for just a little too long.
Yeah, right. Except, that's what we did in the 1920s: Lete everybody say everything they want. And that allowed extremists like Hitler to amass a strong following and take over the government and transform the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich.
You know, there's a reason we changed our laws after WWI and then again after WWII: We learnt from our mistakes and are trying to not repeat them. Letting hate speech go unchecked is NOT the way to a less extrem society.
If the OTHER countries in the Levant (Saudi Arabia / Iran as the big actors)
Neither Saudi Arabia nor Iran are part of the Levant. Not even close to it.
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Saudi Arabia, Russia, Spain and UK officials will gleefully agree with you. Being mandated by law does not make it kosher.
Hey at least I'm not a guy who simply makes shit up rather than arguing the point.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Saudi Arabia, Russia, Spain and UK officials will gleefully agree with you. Being mandated by law does not make it kosher.
Didn't say it did; just that that is German law. Not all cultures have the same view of things like free speech, or others for that matter. Stating a fact does not mean one agrees with it.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Except, that's what we did in the 1920s: Lete everybody say everything they want. And that allowed extremists like Hitler to amass a strong following and take over the government and transform the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich.
I guess you missed the memo about the Nazis using the court system of the Weimar Republic as a huge propaganda vehicle. The Weimar Republic had hate speech laws. The Wiemar Republic prosecuted various high ranking Nazis for hate speech against Jews and other minorities. And the Nazis won big as a result.
Researching my book "The Tyranny of Silence: How One Cartoon Ignited a Global Debate on the Future of Free Speech," I looked into the status of free speech in Weimar Germany. To my surprise, I found that Weimar Germany had hate speech laws, and that they were applied against anti-Semites like Julius Streicher, the publisher of the Nazi newspaper Der Sturmer; Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda; and Theodor Fritsch,a journalist and publisher of anti-Semitic propaganda. Streicher was sent to jail twice, and Goebbels lost every case that Bernhard Weiss, the deputy police chief of Berlin (and frequent target of anti-Semitic vilification), brought against him for defamation.
Further, this aid was quite material. It was these repeated, petty, ineffectual persecutions that brought the Nazis to the public eye and transformed them from some Bavarian gang to a national movement in Germany.
So the Weimar Republic isn't a case where evil happened because there was no hate speech law. Instead, it's a case where evil was greatly abetted by hate speech law.
so let's do it again just to rub it in:
Somehow I knew this would come down to the oppression of the poor white man. Care to double down and throw in some white genocide?
Your post is just another example of it.
The whole point of your post is that it's ok to treat the white man as shit and that white genocide doesn't matter.
There's not really much to argue about or against it. You express it and show it yourself.
In Sweden it's viewed as totally fine to threat white men in whatever negative way, it's good and doesn't matter whatsoever and if white men think that's bad or unfair then who the fuck gives a shit?
Also it's common to think that white-genocide is good anyway so who cares? If all white especially men died / went away the world would be a better place anyway so even if there was a white-genocide it would be good and is totally unproblematic.
It's the white (male) privilege. The privilege to don't matter, be blamed for everything and having everyone else gain an advantage against you on race (and sex) alone.
That's why (left/socialist/black lives matter/Muslim?) anti-racist is a code-word for anti-white and left/female feminism is just anti-male / pro-female sexism.
Yeah I know you saw that one coming. And it doesn't matter. It's still the truth and you've got nothing to do or say against it. You prove it yourself.
Enjoy your new fuck-hole.
Right, and what if these "thousands of hate posts" are just a hand full of operatives ? Remember that document Snowden released describing these tools:
https://assets.documentcloud.o...