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Valve Reveals Steam's 2016 Top Earners -- Including 'No Man's Sky' (pcgamer.com)

An anonymous reader quotes PC Gamer: In a surprise announcement today to kick off 2017, Valve has revealed the 100 best-selling Steam games of 2016... Although the "Top Sellers" section of Steam gives a constant sense of what's selling now, Valve hasn't previously compiled an annual list of which Steam games earned the most money... Rather than ranked in order from 1-100, the list is separated into tiers, from Platinum to Bronze, based on revenue (as opposed to copies sold)... Doom didn't crack the top 12, but it may have gotten close: it's ranked somewhere between 13th and 24th
That second-place Gold tier included more modern throwbacks to classic games, including Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty: Black Ops III, and Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20-Year Celebration. Meanwhile, No Man's Sky, which got off to a rocky start this summer before its massive November update, still turned up in the top "Platinum" tier for revenue earned in 2016. (And it's now discounted 40%.)

In fact, "As an extension of the Winter Sale, all but six of these games are on sale," reports PC Gamer. The other top-earning Steam games were Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Grand Theft Auto V, Civilization VI, and DOTA 2 (which is free to play), as well as Rocket League, XCOM 2, Dark Souls III, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Fallout 4, Total War: Warhammer, and Tom Clancy's The Division.

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  1. Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by godrik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interestingly, about half of the game in that top 100 list are available for Linux. That is about the same number available for Mac. Obviously they are all available for windows.

    I have been casually playing on Debian using steam. And I do find enough game to keep me entertained. I am not sure whether Unity, steam OS, or the need to port games to mobile systems contributed to the increase in gaming support for Linux. But Linux definitely seems to have reasonable gaming options.

    Opinions ?

    1. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by ezelkow1 · · Score: 1

      Im going with steamOS being the pusher, and valve's clout behind it. Anything on steam that runs on linux is marked as SteamOS+Linux supported and valve probably tried to push as many devs as possible to do steamOS releases

      SteamOS is fairly nifty. I had been using a link I bought during the last sale basically as a media streamer from my desktop, but having done a gaming build this summer I decided to throw my old gaming box in an htpc case and throw steamOS on there. It is a nice cross between having desktop capability with an immediately usable frontend. Having your entire library available (either as a linux install, and where linux isnt or you dont want to do a local install you are still free to stream from a networked desktop) along with being able to have a native kodi install, plus retroarch, makes it a fairly complete HTPC setup sans things like netflix

    2. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd say the most significant factor is that Unity and Unreal engines are multi-platform. Steam's native support certainly contributed, of course, but it's very difficult for a game developer to justify spending a lot of engineering effort to support 1% of the market unless you have some significant resources to spend.

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    3. Re: Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      "in fact the way Linux is now(the people involved) I probably trust it less than windows at this point."

      Care to elaborate?

      I don't trust Canonical, and I'm wary (but not zealously opposed to) of systemd. Is there anything else shifty going on that should be discussed?

    4. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's viable. Tho you still need to cherish and praise any AAA devs who put out linux versions of their games. It's still a fan service. The world needs to collapse and rebuilt to get EA, Blizzard or Ubisoft to put out linux games.
      Indie devs consistently support linux.
      Anyways I suggest to switch to Ubuntu as most devs use that to test games.

    5. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      almost all of the games run slower than on windows, with some few exceptions. still, it's a lot better than before.

    6. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      Interestingly, about half of the game in that top 100 list are available for Linux. That is about the same number available for Mac. Obviously they are all available for windows.

      I have been casually playing on Debian using steam. And I do find enough game to keep me entertained. I am not sure whether Unity, steam OS, or the need to port games to mobile systems contributed to the increase in gaming support for Linux. But Linux definitely seems to have reasonable gaming options.

      Opinions ?

      I only do impulse purchases of games that run on Linux. Which in the category of strategy games that I play is basically all of them. It is very viable. The only problems are games demanding high-end graphics. X-COM 2 for instance ran on Linux, but already had a few graphical problems on Windows, and more and worse performance on Linux.

    7. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

      Im going with steamOS being the pusher, and valve's clout behind it.

      I think that the reason is more simple than that. Steam got a client on Linux before SteamOS became a thing. Ever since then, the number of Linux games on Steam has doubled each year. SteamOS got a lot of press (and I am sure that has had some effect), but just offering an easy way to sell and install Linux games made the platform more viable for the smaller developers.

      Add to this the ease to develop for Linux by just selecting another target platform with the game engines (which also now have free versions). Where you would once have to make a carefully considered decision to support the OS, now it is almost a no-brainer. You don't have to be an expert in porting games to Linux. You don't have to deal with the complexity of installing to different flavours of Linux. You don't have to make your own store (or use some lesser known one) to be able to sell to gamers on Linux.

      If SteamOS had been a driving factor in all this, then surely Value would highlight its use on the Steam Survey. Instead, it is an unlisted also-ran in the already tiny proportion of gamers that use Linux. This small number of users is why it has to be so easy for developers to be able to support the OS, as there simply aren't enough gamers on it to make it worth the expense of much more than ticking an extra box on their development system to add support for Linux.

    8. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      I game exclusively on Linux with Steam. Works pretty good for me and I have a blast. The selection isn't as good as Windows but, hey, I can only play one game at a time.

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    9. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Kjella · · Score: 2

      I think that for playing alone, I could now be reasonably content with what's on offer now. There are enough games on Windows that I don't get around to playing them all, so basically it'd just narrow the field. But I have friends and we play games like GTA V and Overwatch and I don't want to be left out. Dual booting is extremely annoying. Buying two high end graphics cards is out. So as much as my inner nerd wants to say yes, it's still no. I might put in my previous graphics card and play lighter titles though, it's on the substitute bench while before it was up in the stands selling hot dogs. And Apple - still the second biggest graphics market - had to go off and do their own thing with Metal instead of Vulkan so there'll be no joint force against DirectX. I'm hoping things will change before Win7 goes out of support, but I'm not optimistic.

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    10. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      How does DRM/copy protection work on Linux? On Windows it usually requires some dodgy ring-0 driver to be installed, or at least admin level permissions to prevent the game code being ripped. I'm guessing most Linux games don't require the root password just to load up.

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    11. Re: Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use KDE neon since it's backed by a community that has been around a very long time and isn't just going to disappear over night.

      The problem with Windows is exactly that Microsoft don't have to worry about improving it. That's how you get steaming piles of spyware and removed user control like Windows 10.

    12. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Most gamers aren't willing to cut their nose off to spite their face, which is why Linux remains unpopular for gaming.

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    13. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      It's called priorities. Everything is a trade off, and gaming for me is just a pastime. It's not a job, e.g., front-end development where it's useful to be up on the latest happenings to maintain employment mobility. I use Linux to get work done, and occasionally I fire up Portal to blow off a little steam. That is precisely the opposite of cutting my nose off despite my face so you can stick your pretentious bullshit up your ass.

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    14. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by Kirth · · Score: 1

      Around 24% of all games on Steam are available on Linux. So, yes.

      On a related note, Linux gamers seem to make up somewhere around 1.5%. So maybe Doom would be on Place 12 if it hadn't released Windows only.

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    15. Re:Is Linux now a reasonnable gaming OS ? by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Another guy who's a webdev that doesn't want to call himself a webdev. You know what's really easy? Running a virtual machine. Not only can you mirror your production environment to work but the host OS you use ceases to matter.

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  2. Re:Keep polishing that turd by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    When someone asks you to polish a turd, what they are really telling you to do is cover it in gold spray paint and glitter.

    Knowing this is important, some people have actually tried to fix impossible messes.

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  3. Analysis by mentil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looking at the list, half of the Platinum earners are RPGs and strategy games, with 3 shooters. Of the Gold earners, 9/12 are shooters. Of the Silver earners, 6/16 are strategy/simulation games. Throughout, many of the highest earners are zombie-themed, open-world, or survival sandbox games. There are 1, 2, 2, and 3 free-to-play games in the Platinum, Gold, Silver, and Bronze categories respectively. Yes, the highest-earning f2p game is Dota2.
    This suggests that niche titles (RPGs, simulation/strategy titles) are some of the best-sellers on PC, as these genres have traditionally been under-served on consoles (think Diablo 1 on PSX compared to Baldur's Gate, rather than a consolified RPG like Witcher 3).

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    1. Re: Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Winners never cheat and cheaters never win (except Putin).

    2. Re:Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      the highest earning f2p game that does not have valve's name on it (and so, not earning valve both sales AND commissions) is Warframe. considering that steam is perhaps the least-used platform warframe is available on, that's a pretty huge thing. (warframe is also on ps4 and xbone, and available as a standalone installer, which most pc players use)

    3. Re: Analysis by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      We sorta need a better way to describe dota2 than "free to play". Most games with this moniker then allow you to buy power in the game (and for the most part expect it). Dota2 does not suffer from this.

      True, but I'd rather we accurately label games that are "pay to win" or "pay to play" as something like "Freemium", leaving "free to play" to describe games like Dota2 or Guild Wars 2.

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    4. Re: Analysis by Goragoth · · Score: 2

      Personally the way I refer to these sorts of games is "ethical F2P", and that includes titles such as League of Legends and Path of Exile. Anything that you can reasonably play without dropping a cent into. Interestingly these sorts of games tend to do really well (LoL is the biggest earning game, DotA2 is the biggest on Steam, and other games following this model are also doing very well). Turns out that people don't like it when games are obvious cash-grabs.

    5. Re: Analysis by Luthair · · Score: 1

      League is actually pay to win since paying money can have an impact on the outcome of the game. You can unlock things without paying but at any given point you can pay to have an advantage.

    6. Re: Analysis by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You can unlock things without paying but at any given point you can pay to have an advantage.

      If that's not the case, then only the subset of people who want to play dolly with their avatars will spend money on your F2P game. It doesn't become a problem until you can't succeed without paying money, at which point the hordes of players who won't pay for it won't show up, and population drops precipitously. If your game is fun to play even when there's not a lot of players around, this isn't necessarily a problem.

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    7. Re: Analysis by Cederic · · Score: 1

      If that's not the case, then only the subset of people who want to play dolly with their avatars will spend money on your F2P game.

      Oh no, you may only have one of the 12 highest grossing games of the year. Or three of the top 24.

      Shit, several of the top 12 offer purely cosmetic enhancements.

  4. Re:Which is free to play by Tukz · · Score: 2

    If you are referring to DOTA 2, it's completely free and there is no "pay 2 win".

    Purchases are entirely cosmetics.

    And people are spending a stupid amount of money on cosmetics, just look at CS:GO.

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  5. Steam OS seemed to have died off by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    when the Windows Store went *pop*. If that new games for windows thing they pushed with Killer Instinct & Forza had taken off maybe Valve would get the jeebees scared enough to go back to it, but right now it's looking kinda tepid.

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    1. Re:Steam OS seemed to have died off by Trongy · · Score: 1

      Back in the days of the PowerPC based Macs, Apple maintained an internal x86 build of OS X, not because they had immediate plans to release it as a product, just to be ready to counter competitive threats.

      I see Steam using Linxu/steamOS for the same purpose. Linux game sales on steam account for around 1% of the total, so I doubt anyone is making money from them. However they keep maintaining steamOS and pushing it at their developer days.

      Most Microsoft products were not successful from version 1.0. Microsoft's Windows Store remains a long term threat to Steam and steamOS is a strategic counter.

  6. No Man's Sky by GrBear · · Score: 2

    I find it particularly confusing how a game rated "Mostly Negative" still had the highest sales revenue. At first I thought it was based on sales and didn't include refunds.. but apparently it's based on revenue, which should include refunds.

    At some point I read Steam stopped giving refunds on it, so perhaps there were a large populous that maybe didn't read the reviews before purchasing it.. or actually enjoyed the limited gameplay.

  7. So defrauding your customers does pay by gweihir · · Score: 1

    And rather handsomely as No Man's Sky shows. Apparently, the only thing they needed to do is make the first 3-4 hours interesting and give people some false hope. Personally, I canceled my pre-order after reading the early reviews.

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  8. Re:No Man's Sky by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Indeed. If customers do not punish game-makers for bad quality and broken promises, what do people expect to happen next time?

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  9. Re:It should be a crime by EvilSS · · Score: 1

    to earn so much money on a game with a community such as CS:GO, and letting the good, friendly players put up with it. There are so many things they could do to clean the community up a bit, but of course it's better to keep the bad eggs since they are also spending money. Fucking criminal.

    Well considering almost all of the revenue from the game comes from what is essentially a built in slot-machine I don't think the actual FPS play is of much concern to them anymore.

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  10. Re:No Man's Sky by Lord+Crc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it particularly confusing how a game rated "Mostly Negative" still had the highest sales revenue.

    Almost all of it was pre-launch purchases. Game was hyped into the 8th dimension. it was on the "top sellers" list months before launch.

    However, many players spent more than 2 hours playing the game, waiting to find all those neat things they were promised, before they realized the game was not what they had been told it would be. And after 2 hours of game-time you can't refund the game anymore.

    Others are still clinging on hoping the devs will fix the mess and release the game they showed the world during E3 and whatnot.

  11. Re:No Mans Sky needs refunding by Calydor · · Score: 1

    At first I read your title line to mean that NMS needs a new funding campaign to bring out more content.

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  12. Not for me but maybe for you. by waspleg · · Score: 1

    30% my collection has Linux ports and that excludes most of the AAA titles, you can check on steamdb.info there is a calculator which shows your account value and other things.

    The Linux filter is dead last in the list and you have to scroll to get to it - rather telling unfortunately.

    It's definitely getting better but not enough to ditch Windows 7. I guess it depends on whether what you want to play/buy is listed there.

    There are also some non-Steam things that work with Wine like I play Hearthstone which runs well under battle.net (Blizzard) on my Mint Thinkpad without issues.

  13. Re:No Man's Sky by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pre-orders. The game was waaaaay popular for the first day with huge download and player volumes.

    No Man's Sky is currently hovering between the 1000-2000 active player mark. Before the patch to fix many of the issues it was around 300-500 players. Opening weekend was looking more like 200000. People played it, thought it was shit and then either didn't get a refund or weren't granted a refund.

  14. Well they were investigated by waspleg · · Score: 2

    for false advertising in the UK and cleared according to a Forbes article I won't like because even with my extensive ad blocking it was barely legible.

    Here's a /. story about a lot of begrudgingly given refunds

    I read about it before it was released and it looked like another kickstarter-style scam to me and I knew the tears would be copious especially where they billed it as multiplayer but then said your chances of actually encountering someone else would be astronomically low.

    There is a unfulfilled change.org petition and lots of other shit out there about it. I still have 0 interest personally.

    1. Re:Well they were investigated by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Have you looked at the current state of Star Citizen? It still has more content than No Man's Sky.

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  15. Interesting how many aren't 2016 games by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of the 12 games in their platinum category, half (CS:GO, DOTA 2, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Grand Theft Auto V, and Rocket League) came out before 2016 (though Fallout 4 had a Nov 2015 release so kinda falls into both years).

    Same things with the 12 games in the gold category. Only 4 were released in 2016, 2 in late 2015. And only 5 of the 16 games in the silver category were released in 2016 or late 2015.

    Message to game companies: Good older games with long-term playability make as much money as new games with big advertising budgets which are just a flash in the pan. So don't rush it - take the time to playtest it and do it right.

    1. Re:Interesting how many aren't 2016 games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Message to consumer: We know, but there are lots of different variables in play - that model doesn't work for all studios and all markets due to budgets running dry, talent gain/lost, etc... And on different platforms, with their TCRs, TRCs, and lotcheck there is an entirely different set of demands.

      In short: unless you are in a C-level position from a company who makes games in that list, you may want to check your Dunning-Kruger notions before telling us how we should keep the lights on for the hundreds of people who do this for a living.

      Sincerely,
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    2. Re:Interesting how many aren't 2016 games by icsx · · Score: 1

      More interesting is the fact that Team Fortress 2 was released 2007.

  16. Too late to release Half Life 3 in 2016, I guess by sandbagger · · Score: 1

    What, is the voice actor for Gordon Freeman busy or something?

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  17. Re:No Man's Sky by LesFerg · · Score: 2

    But its a fantastic study of how long your perseverance can push past your dwindling curiosity.

    I particularly like the non-repetitive realism:
    You are on a very cold planet and will shortly die, unless you get under some overhanging earth and into the shade, where the planet is *less* cold.
    You are on a very radioactive planet and will shortly die, unless you get under ground, where the planet is *less* radioactive.
    I haven't got to my 3rd planet yet, but I expect it will be a very hot planet, where you will shortly die, unless you get underground, where the planet is *less* hot.

    And why are there "sentinels" flying around getting pissed at you for mining? Presumably the player is trespassing on pre-claimed land and stealing the mineral resources of another race. So they are promoting theft as adventure?

    I should stop over-analyzing this.

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  18. Re:No Man's Sky by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

    I find it particularly confusing how a game rated "Mostly Negative" still had the highest sales revenue.

    Maybe it is because a significant portion of owners have not played the game yet. There are a lot of gamers who buy more games than they can play (especially indie titles). If you already have a large backlog of games and then you hear reports that the game hasn't delivered on all the features they claimed it would have, then it isn't a problem to put it on your backlog and wait for future patches to improve the gameplay wasting time on a half-finished game.

    Now if you don't mind, I must go and try this Half Life 2 that they came out with. I hear that it's going to be the next big thing!

  19. Personal Perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of the games listed, I don't own any of the Platinum, Gold, or Silver. Of the Bronze group, I own very few games.of the games (5 of them, although one is on Origin not Steam).--and I own 1097 games. Most of this is because almost all games I buy I obtain in bundles or through trades. The bigger reason is that very few of the listed games are ones I'm interested in. In honesty, probably three-quarters of those 1097 games are ones I'm not really interested in but before I started trying to gift/trade away games.

    Even so, I'm only interested in a meaningful way in some of the Bronze games and none of the Platinum/Gold/Silver games. Some of this, no doubt, is due to their price* or because I have a marginally comparable game in my own library of games. The biggest reason though is simply way too many are focused on either open world, crafting, or online play. The first too get old very quickly and online play has long ago lost its major draw for me**. I would say I am pleasantly surprised with the large number of metroidvanias, shooters, and generally good platforms (2d or 3d). Still, it's sort of depressing to see the list and know that they're the sort of games most enjoyed by people.

    * It's not that I don't have the money. It's that it's hard to justify buying a $30 game (which is at a ~50% discount) when even a bundle like Yogscast which included a lot of games there were worthless to me gave me a better value ratio (even without trades). At this point, buying a $30 game makes me think I either (1) have to play a lot of it to try to justify the cost to myself or (2) try to justify the cost towards others (even though no one asks) because it seems ludicrous given you can get a good bundle of games for $3 worth a lot more than a $30 game. Of course, there's also a lot of crap bundles. But I'd even still contend you'd be better off buying 10 bundles straight from Indiegala or Bundlestars at $3 (or however many to add up to $30 for bundles that don't go over $4) than that one $30 game. Which makes me wonder if that's what's messing up the stats.

    ** FPSs were fun but you need really low latency. And now that we've got tons of people who make those games nearly a life of theirs, it's better to just avoid them if you want to have any serious fun--or you want to become a master of the game. MMOs? Not worth the money. Most other 4x/strategy/whatever? I'd probably rather play against a computer, honestly, or in a single player campaign. In the end, though, it'd still probably not be worth it.to invest the time. That last part is probably the biggest refrain that refrains me from choosing much other than games I can just quickly play and resume later. Or for which playthroughs are short enough I can do a run and improve and play again.

    1. Re:Personal Perspective by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Similarly, out of the 367 games that I own, there is one Platinum level game (Rocket League) and four Bronze, plus two Bronze level games on my Wishlist.

  20. Re:Too late to release Half Life 3 in 2016, I gues by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    The writer of Half-Life retired over 2 years ago.

  21. Re:No Mans Sky needs refunding by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Steam refund is a joke.

    They have a policy that they only refund games that have been "played" for less than two hours. If you can't get a game to start, and spend more than 2 hours trying to troubleshoot it, they adamantly refuse to refund anything, even if your actual play time is zero.
    There's no way of escalating or get in touch with a human.

  22. Re:No Man's Sky by kuzb · · Score: 1

    You're looking at the wrong number. You should be looking at the vote totals. Since you have to pay in order to leave a rating this makes perfect sense.

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  23. Re:Path of Exile by Anonymous_Coward_No1 · · Score: 1

    Worth noting that it is a STEAM top earner where the vast majority of spending in the game doesn't involve Steam.

  24. Re:No Man's Sky by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

    Steam accepted refunds for weeks after purchase for this particular game, simply because the backlash was so huge. The lack of the expected revenue loss was NOT because people couldn't refund it.

    The truth of the matter is, while it didn't deserve the absurd fan generated hype by any means, it wasn't that bad. Not great, not bad, just meh. A small, though larger than normal, portion of the gaming population were extremely upset over this, but for most people it's not that different than any other game, and isn't enough to get a refund over..

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  25. Re:No Mans Sky needs refunding by arth1 · · Score: 1

    I asked for a refund and explained the circumstances in the Details box. Even though I was over the 2 hour mark, they refunded it without issue.

    My experience is that they don't read the comments box at all. Even if I explained that i had zero play time because i could not get past the installer/launcher, I received a boilerplate reply that it could not be refunded because play time exceeded 2 hours. There seems to be no way to escalate or get in touch with a human. Attempting to resubmit the request with a big PLEASE READ in front of it did not help - same boilerplate reply.

  26. Re:No Man's Sky by LesFerg · · Score: 1

    I wasn't talking about the reason, just the repetition.
    Next I landed on a "toxic" planet. I would die if I stayed on the surface. Underground it was less "toxic". You don't think the pattern is a little over used?

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