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FBI Arrests Volkswagen Executive On Charges Related To Dieselgate (cnet.com)

According to CNET, the FBI has arrested Volkswagen executive Oliver Schmidt over the weekend on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S. relating to the ongoing Dieselgate emissions scandal. From the report: Schmidt headed VW's regulatory compliance office in the U.S. from 2014 to March 2015. The FBI's official Criminal Complaint states that during that time VW employees -- Schmidt included -- knowingly installed secret "defeat device" software in 475,000 diesel cars in the U.S., hiding during emissions testing the fact that those cars emitted up to 40 times the legally allowable pollution levels when on the road. The complaint asserts that by knowingly installing this secret cheat software, Schmidt and VW conspired to defraud the U.S. by impairing and impeding the Environmental Protection Agency and violating the Clean Air Act, leading to the arrest on Saturday. Schmidt is due to appear before a Federal Court in Miami on Monday.

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  1. Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nothing will come of this. Corporate executives almost always get a slap on the wrist and a scolding, and that's it. Particularly under the next administration, if anybody believes that we will be holding corporations accountable for stuff like this, I have some beach front swampland you may be interested in.

    1. Re:Toothless by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      If executives are held accountable, the terriz have already won.

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    2. Re:Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not a US citizen who has been contributing millions of dollars to political funds. He's fucked.

    3. Re: Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost right,the company will get a massive fine/pay bribe.
      Share/stock holders lose out by firm paying fines.
      CEO etc gets slapped wrists,possibly resigns with payoff and pension,turns up at another divinsion in firm or starts at different firm or govt dept,probably with signing on bonus..
      Nobody except share/stock holders lose out,so very little changes and we jystbwait for the next big company fraud next month..
      Were as if these company officers and agents were actualy held legaly responsibile and accountable for the actions of their firms and suddenly found themselves facing 20+ jail time + total confiscation of everything held by their family etc to help pay masiive fine/bribe,then we might se some change,but not until then..

    4. Re:Toothless by avandesande · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... or a banker. The whole financial system collapse in 2007 and banks knowingly laundering money for mexican drug cartels (look it up, I am not kidding) and not one arrest.

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    5. Re:Toothless by GLMDesigns · · Score: 0

      You really believe your own BS don't you?

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    6. Re:Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bernie Madoff...

    7. Re:Toothless by avandesande · · Score: 1

      He is not a banker and had nothing to do with the financial collapse. Try again!

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    8. Re:Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bernie Madoff...

      Unrelated; he was running a ponzi scheme, not a bank.

    9. Re:Toothless by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Smart executives don't leave a written trail. They call in a couple blokes just below their rank and tell them in person what they "must do" do to either get a raise, and/or to not get fired. The boss has "that stare".

      In court it's then word against word, which is rarely enough to convict by itself.

      I've been asked to do slimy stuff multiple times in the work world, unfortunately, and the boss(es) never use email. It seems to happen more often during slumps when people have fewer employment options.

    10. Re: Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a good thing we didn't just elect a Republican billionaire scumbag as president.

    11. Re: Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too. I said no, or in cases where t was questionable, I sent an email confirming that I was about to do X as he instructed, and if there were any problems with it he should let me know.

      It's not quite the same as an explicit email FROM the boss, but it's a hell of a lot better ass coverage than nothing, and just a couple of those emails inansweeed establishes a pattern you can bring to HR for clarification or put in front of a jury as defense (as long as it was truly questionable and not just outright wrong).

    12. Re: Toothless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to change LLC laws, internationally?

    13. Re:Toothless by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Wait, are you telling me Slashdot's reliable standby, the car analogy, just broke down?

  2. I'm always amazed when someone will do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    for their dumb job that could land them in jail. Talk about screwed up priorities.

  3. Bill Gates, Dieselgate,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FFS Slashdot. Is there anything like the good old days of news for nerds?

  4. lol, appearances; scapegoat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In order to placate the plebes it's more important to appear to be doing something rather than actually do anything.

  5. Why is this story worthy? by mallyn · · Score: 0

    Why is this worthy of Slashdot? This is just an executive being busted by the FBI. I can think of far more worthy subjects, say, for example, do a comparison between Raspberry PI 3 and the latest Intel Edison, and the latest Beaglebone.

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    1. Re:Why is this story worthy? by drew_kime · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why is this worthy of Slashdot? This is just an executive being busted by the FBI.

      Because the exec was responsible for validating code that was found to not be doing what he said it did.

      Do you have anybody in your company doing QA? Or auditing code? Think they might be interested in this?

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    2. Re:Why is this story worthy? by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Speak for yourself. I find this, as a former developer, to be very interesting. People aren't generally arrested over bad programming. I couldn't care less about yet another review of whatever the latest el-cheapo hobbyist gadgets are.

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    3. Re:Why is this story worthy? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree. Since this boils down to someone writing software whose explicit purpose is to cheat on government-mandated tests, I'd say it's a very interesting technical story that involves a scenario that may play out in many areas of development. Being a programmer doesn't mean moral, ethical and legal considerations cease to exist.

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    4. Re:Why is this story worthy? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I find this, as a former developer, to be very interesting. People aren't generally arrested over bad programming.

      Was it bad programming or was it programming that performed exactly according to specifications?

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    5. Re:Why is this story worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Toys versus actions that could put any developer in prison if they run afoul of the law. One of these matters.

      While we read about news that matters for our careers, toys for autistic manchildren can be reviewed elsewhere.

    6. Re:Why is this story worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was programming that did a bad thing that they knowingly coded to cheat the existing air quality rules and try to avoid being caught.

    7. Re:Why is this story worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just an executive being busted by the FBI.

      You say this like it is common...

      And to answer your implicit question of how-is-this-tech-related (buying into the "news-for-nerds-only" fallacy), this is a natural follow-up to an existing story.

      Article 1: VW has been cheating on emissions tests. (Obvious tech)
      Article 2: Repercussions to VW due to their cheating of emissions tests. (Closes out the story line for those following Article 1)

    8. Re:Why is this story worthy? by 4wdloop · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do not see anybody 'down in the trenches' just out of the blue or love for the job decided to do it single-handed. I would be surprised any of the softies there realized this is very illegal. Ethically perhaps they may have doubts quickly resolved by their bosses.

      I'd expect that in big corporation, like VW, the programmers are just gears in the machine. I am one for sure. They were told to improve test results and performance results. Sbdy (likely team+1/2 levels of mgnt) there decided to optimize these two cases separately hence detecting each use case. They even consulted this with VW legal team and upper mngmnt, got approval and went ahead. Than they all collected the bonuses.

      If there is not written evidence for all of these then their document retention policies are "well tuned" albeit since they must be ISO9xxx certified they must have something left in the decision chain. Hence Schmidt was charged with conspiring to fraud, evidence must exist he knowingly allowed it as he's not charged with negligence of duties of sorts (AINAL).

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    9. Re:Why is this story worthy? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      Performance wise it was very good software, it "knew" when it was in a test environment and behaved in a manner totally at odds with normal day to day operation. Sadly for them, researchers began a study on emissions discrepancies between European and US models of vehicles, Portable Emissions Measurement Systems showed totally different values from test rig results and the rest is yet to be played out.

      They would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids at the International Council on Clean Transportation!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

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    10. Re:Why is this story worthy? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      If there is not written evidence for all of these then their document retention policies are "well tuned" albeit since they must be ISO9xxx certified they must have something left in the decision chain.

      ISO9xxx isn't about documenting a decision chain.

      ISO9xxx is about insuring that the company can build the same thing repeatedly, despite things like personnel with critical knowledge leaving the company or dying, and being replaced by ignorant newbies.

      ISO9xxx is perfectly happy if the instructions for a step of building widget X are written on a designated whiteboard in a designated cubicle, or sitting in a basket on top of a designated file cabinet, as long as this is documented properly so it can be rediscovered the next time they need to do a run of widget X.

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    11. Re:Why is this story worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because these are corporate whores, not nerds. Obviously.

    12. Re:Why is this story worthy? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Take a look at page 64 of this presentation (PDF): http://roma.faster-it.de/temp/...

      Some guys decompiled the firmware and found the tables that control the engine modes, based on time and distance travelled. Note how the very narrow low emissions bands match the European test cycles perfectly.

      It was clearly very deliberately, very carefully planned, must have required extensive testing and couldn't have been done without the assistance of Bosch who designed the control unit.

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  6. Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What you gonna do if Bill Gates is ever involved in a scandal? Call it Gatesgate?

    1. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      BillGate

    2. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if Billy is involved in some kind of money scandal.

    3. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by turkeydance · · Score: 1

      who's this "we", Gordon?

    4. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 3, Funny

      What you gonna do if Bill Gates is ever involved in a scandal? Call it Gatesgate?

      No kidding. Why do large scandals get "gate" attached to them anyhow? I understand the Watergate thing as it was the actual name of the complex it happened in. But the hundreds of scandals since, that have used it, just seem silly. "Deflategate", "Donutgate[sic]", "Nannygate(1, 2 &3)", "Antennagate", "Pengate", "Nipplegate", and my current favorite, "Pussygate". "Pussygate" sounds more like a chastity belt than a scandal.

    5. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The simple answer is simply that enough English-speaking individuals over the last 43-44 years have decided that "-gate" as a suffix at the end of a word can be used to give a scandal as a memorable name. You do understand, I hope, that human language is not a static construct, that words and even morphemes and other elements of speech evolve over time, old words taking on new meanings, new words being formed either by adoption from other languages or by joining together two existing words, and so forth. So, "-gate" as a suffix has now come to a scandal, and has for over four decades gained sufficient penetration in most English-speaking jurisdictions that I'd say it's now a permanent part of the language.

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    6. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because that's how languages evolve. They're called eponyms, and people have been doing it since before the time of the Caesars (note the plural form). There are a lot of examples (I didn't realize that "diesel" was one of them), and seeing how these are very short, easy to understand, non-ambiguous, non-overriding existing terminology (literally)... I have no problem with it.

      So I have to ask, what is your problem with it?

    7. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      If Bill G. breaks through a fence gate using gate-array circuity, then the scandal is called "GatesGateGateGate". Or, G4.

    8. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Macdude · · Score: 2

      Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal?

      Apparently not.

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    9. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      called "GatesGateGateGate". Or, G4.

      Gate outta here

      By the way, 640 gates oughta be enough for anyone

    10. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal?

      Can we? Yes! WIll we? Well, the origin of it is from 40 years ago so... unlikely.

      What you gonna do if Bill Gates is ever involved in a scandal? Call it Gatesgate?

      It's funny you mention that because Mr. Gates has been involved in about a dozen human trafficking scandals but they fail to report it because can never figure out a working headline.

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    11. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you gonna do if Bill Gates is ever involved in a scandal? Call it Gatesgate?

      Yes.

    12. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Yes, I understand that English is not Latin and is not a dead language. I just find that in this particular case it's fairly silly. Perhaps it's because I remember Watergate. Or perhaps it's because I'm old enough to remember Watergate.

       

    13. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RecursionGate!

    14. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by scatbomb · · Score: 1

      Or if there was a gate scandal, which itself became a scandal. Gategategate.

    15. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      What if Bill Gates got into a scandal regarding Watergate?

      Bill Gates Watergategate?

    16. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      don't forget Pizzagate

    17. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      human language is not a static construct, that words and even morphemes and other elements of speech evolve over time, old words taking on new meanings

      Yip, 300 years from now people will say, "I think that planet just trumped their government all up."

    18. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Billy Bath Gate

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    19. Re:Can we stop adding GATE to every scandal? by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

      Well, at least it's not G8...

  7. This is why Tim Cook won't come to Ireland by v1nce29 · · Score: 0

    For fear to be arrested

  8. Damn, they're going after the right guy by drew_kime · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's hoping this leads to some actual changes.

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    1. Re:Damn, they're going after the right guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But did he decide on his own or was he ordered by his superior? He could have some damning evidence about his company to get a plea bargain from the US.

  9. Re:Who cares? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    I think anyone who cares that the laws of the land are enforced cares. If emissions standards are set, and someone cheats on those standards, then they should be punished. Maybe we don't get the top people involved, but is that an argument against anyone being prosecuted?

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  10. In all fairness.. by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I expect they will be arresting Elizabeth Holmes as well? Or is this an American philosophy arrest, where defrauding the health of people isn't nearly as offensive as financially damaging defrauding.

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    1. Re:In all fairness.. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      The investigation into Holmes and Theranos is still ongiong. I suppose it's not yet clear whether she and the company were malicious or just sloppy.

      She has been hit with a two-year ban on owning or operating a lab.

      However, in the case of Volkswagen, there's no question that they wrote software designed to bypass emission tests.

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    2. Re:In all fairness.. by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Is there a valid question of whether she knew what was going on, or just one that might not be provable in court?

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    3. Re:In all fairness.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as it is foreign, they are worth charging. But wrap it in a flag and nothing will happen. See the Harley Davidson emissions scandal.

    4. Re:In all fairness.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or GM, or Fiat Chrysler, or Ford. They all have a long history of cheating and mostly getting away with it. Even Honda got away relatively easily, probably due to the large number of people they employ in the US and a long track record of ample political donations. So far, only the truck manufacturers (who happen to be mostly foreign-owned) and VW got in serious trouble. I wonder how the Cummins/Fiat Chrysler case will end. It seems like they have a very obvious defeat device in diesel cars sold in the US, but the regulatory agencies don't seem to do anything about it.

  11. Is Oliver Schmidt the top of this criminal tree? by mmell · · Score: 1
    The FBI has arrested Volkswagen executive Oliver Schmidt . . . is he the highest ranking executive who demonstrably knew what was going on? Anything less amounts to convicting a torpedo for doing a contract hit, or convicting the capo that made the arrangements, but never going after the boss who's actually getting people killed.

    And - no - this is not hyperbolic. That's my air those VW's are polluting. I've often been asked if I would just stop breathing and my answer has always been "no, thank you". I'm really addicted to breathing. It's a shame I can't get the same high-quality air I used to get last century.

  12. Good they caught him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's good they caught him if the accusations are true. Does this mean he and his fellow conspirators will be held liable for the damage they caused to their former employer? I have a strong suspicion they won't.

  13. VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by raymorris · · Score: 1

    To the extent that banker types get their way, the VW execs will be in prison for a long time. Prior to the scandal, VW was trading at over $200/share, as high as $250. After the information came out, it dropped to $100. That's about $80-$100 billion or so that investors lost.

    That's a bit more than the losses from Enron. Enron executives got prison sentences of up to 24 years (later reduced to 14 years).

    The damage to investors side of the issue is on top of the EPA / environmental crimes.

    1. Re:VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by avandesande · · Score: 4, Informative

      2007 financial crisis cost 22 trillion dollars, nobody was jailed.

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    2. Re:VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      It's extremely difficult to prosecute banking crime that didn't involve direct theft. The issue is often abstract enough, often involving complex math and difficult economic concepts, in addition the evidence is often difficult to interpret often involving forensic accounting which again involves complex mathematics. Finally the defendant's in the cases are often wealthy with significant funds available for good lawyers such that the prosecutors have a very hard time convincing a jury of guilt.

    3. Re:VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by glenebob · · Score: 1

      White-blower hostility was more of a Clinton administration thing.

    4. Re:VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Enron case, those executives were directly responsible for reducing the shareholder value. In dieselgate, the US regulatory agencies caused most of the damage with their extreme overreaction, their misleading statements and their unreasonable demands. Even VW managers who were aware of the cheat could never have predicted that the consequences would be so out of line with past cases.

    5. Re:VW cost investors $80 billion, more than Enron by alexo · · Score: 1

      Even more evidence that the legal system is broken by design.

  14. RE:Maybe we don't get the top people involved, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RE: Maybe we don't get the top people involved, but is that an argument against anyone being prosecuted?

    Absolutely. You have described selective prosecution based on class and/or wealth, and that is definitely against the spirit, if not the black-letter law of the Constitution.

  15. "If"...? Are you too young too remember...? by ffkom · · Score: 1

    There were plenty of scandals Bill Gates was involved in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  16. Florida Man reference? by TodPunk · · Score: 1

    How did we miss this Florida Man opportunity!?

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  17. It make no sense to pin the blame on one man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None of this makes sense.

    Whatever regulations mandated that whatever test be passed before the vehicles could go on sale.

    Which they did.

    No problem there.

    Even if you accept that VW was bending the spirit of that law it makes no sense to put the whole blame onto one guy.

    By the way, over twenty years ago I was working with Lucas. Over lunch breaks the guys building engine management systems for Volvo would proudly tell me how they detected test conditions and adapted the engine control accordingly.

    Clearly this is not a one man show. He was probably still in nappies when it all started.

    1. Re:It make no sense to pin the blame on one man. by DreadCthulhu · · Score: 1

      The law says auto makers are specifically not allowed to have a "defeat device" (like this software) that causes the car to run differently when being tested.

    2. Re:It make no sense to pin the blame on one man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless it serves to 'protect the engine'. Pretty much every manufacturer has used that in one way or another.

    3. Re: It make no sense to pin the blame on one man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds to me like you're an accessory, so you might want to be careful about that high horse.

  18. WindowsGate... a lost opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US Justice Departments Anti-trust actions in the 1990s against Microsoft were a joke. Microsoft used unlawful, anti-competitive, predatory tactics to seize control of the PC market. You couldn't even buy a PC then without being forced to also buy a licence for Microsoft Windows whether you wanted it or not. It's called bundling and its illegal. DOJ gave Microsoft a slap on the wrist fine but let them keep their ill-gottten gains. http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/long-antitrust-saga-ends-for-microsoft/

  19. Memo to FBI by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

    About fucking time. How the bank robbers at Wells Fargo?

    1. Re:Memo to FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, we were too busy looking at Hillary's emails. The bank guys get a pass.

      -FBI

  20. Re:Is Oliver Schmidt the top of this criminal tree by vux984 · · Score: 1

    It's a shame I can't get the same high-quality air I used to get last century.

    If you could have their air, but also had to live with their technology and medicine too would you still take the trade?

    Meanwhile, depending on where you live, 100 years ago was pretty filthy... London air quality in 1917.... sulpher dioxide and soot from the smokestacks... and that was on a good day... 100 years ago puts you right in the middle of World War I ... a little soot in your air would be right pleasant compared to the 50,000 tons of chlorine, phosgene, mustard, and other gases that some of your 100-year-ago contemporaries would have been dealing with.

    Meanwhile, smog and acid rain, are on the decline in North America thanks to environmental regulation and pollution controls... and with the mass market arrival of electric city air quality is actually poised to get even better in the future.

  21. 35 bankers in prison, but yeah the Obama admin vs by raymorris · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not quite true that *nobody* was jailed. Here are 35 bankers sent to prison:

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/2...

    Also some who didn't go to prison did get fines over over $100 million.

    Compared to the 1980s S&L crisis, there were certainly fewer prosecutions. One career prosecutor who is knowledgeable about both says that one reason for that is the the Obama administration, unlike the Reagan administration, was hostile toward white-blowers who could have enabled prosecution.

  22. typo: whistles-blowers by raymorris · · Score: 2

    Where my post says "white-blowers", that should be "whistle-blowers". In the 1980s, whistle-blowers gave leads to investigators and testified against bosses. The Obama administration has of course been hostile to whistle-blowers.

    1. Re: typo: whistles-blowers by PoopJuggler · · Score: 0

      The Obama administration has of course been hostile to whistle-blowers.

      Maybe white-blowers too.

    2. Re:typo: whistles-blowers by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It was totally a freudian slip, I am sure!

      Wouldn't Monica Lewinski be a white-blower?

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  23. Re:I'm always amazed when someone will do somethin by slashrio · · Score: 1

    Guaranteed loss of job vs small chance of landing in jail.

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  24. Arrest? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Can't they just summon him? Arrest make sense for dangerous people, and this one is not going to harm anyone over the weekend.

    1. Re:Arrest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is not to prosecute some one for breaking the law, but to damage the reputation of a foreign competitor to the US car industry. Arresting a former manager and blasting reports of it all over the news is far more effective towards that goal than simply summoning him, even if that would have been just as effective for the stated goal. This is the US, after all.

  25. Re:Who cares? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Looking at the pattern of your posts I sincerely hope that you get in touch soon with someone who cares about you.

    Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder can be cured.

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  26. Sacrificial goat by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Just one guy? Obvioulsy a token sacrificial goat, probably set up by VW themselves. You can't tell me the whole of the VW upper management didn't know about and agree to this.

    1. Re:Sacrificial goat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few dozen people VW employees, including some that had high-ranks at the time the cheat must have been conceived and developed, are subjects to a criminal investigation, but that does not mean that all of them (or even any) will be indicted. In the latest interim report, the external investigation ordered by Volkswagen's supervisory board had not found anything to suggest that anyone in upper management was involved.

      It really seems like the cheat originated in the development team for the affected engine. They couldn't meet the NOx emission limit in the US without sacrificing reliability and longevity or exceeding the required unit cost. Failure was not an option (this was the Piëch era) and since the actual NOx emissions (outside the test) were comparable to the vast majority of diesel cars outside the US, it probably didn't seem to then that they were doing such a bad thing. Cheating must have seemed a better option than admitting failure to senior management. They had no idea of the consequences, since the US had always been very lax when its domestic car manufacturers were caught cheating. A few times they handed a slap on the wrist, but there had never been any serious consequences before.

      Based on what is known, this seems like the most likely scenerio. Had senior management known, they would have at least taken steps to cover their arses as much as possible. With some legal input in the exact engine management design choices, a very similar cheat could have been made entirely legal in Europe (as pretty much every other manufacturer does) and legal risks in the US could have been reduced greatly. More likely, they would have decided against it, since they had much more to lose personally and increased cost from adding an AdBlue system or additional warranty claims due to increased EGR polluting the engines would not have come out of their own pockets.

  27. Re: Get ready for Uncle Sam's by PoopJuggler · · Score: 0

    With Extra Sauerkraut.

  28. Hillary didn't like white blowers by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I think it was Hillary who said a lot of nasty things about some white blowers.

  29. Reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It reminds me of the arrests at HSBC for money laundering and the arrests after the financial crash. Oh, wait...

    Did VW forget to "donate"?

  30. Too late by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

    There's already been a Gategate, although as the redirect shows I think it was more commonly known as "Plebgate".

    It may be etymologically dumb, but it's a handy bit of syntax. Sort of like "-aholic" for being addicted to something other than alcohol.

  31. Re:Is Oliver Schmidt the top of this criminal tree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And - no - this is not hyperbolic. That's my air those VW's are polluting.

    The affected VWs produce no more NOx than contemporary diesel cars and their particulate emissions are exceptionally low. This is a regulatory compliance issue, not an air quality issue.

    It's a shame I can't get the same high-quality air I used to get last century.

    At no point in the previous century was the air in the populated parts of the West as clean as it is now.

  32. EU company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So will we complain how the US is targetting European companies or do we only do that when it's the EU doing it to US companies?

  33. Re:I'm always amazed when someone will do somethin by alexo · · Score: 1

    I highly doubt that Volkswagen executives struggle to feed their families.

  34. Re:Is Oliver Schmidt the top of this criminal tree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FBI has arrested Volkswagen executive Oliver Schmidt . . . is he the highest ranking executive who demonstrably knew what was going on?

    His job was as chief regulatory compliance officer for volkswagon in the USA... He was employed to ensure volkswagon was in compliance with US regulations.

    That means that his signature was on paperwork submitted to the US government affirming that volkswagon was in compliance with a whole lot of regulations. It turns out that this was false.

    Ooops.

  35. Shooting off your cocksucker again troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't shoot my mouth off without knowing what I'm talking about" - by raymorris (2726007) on Thursday December 31, 2015 @09:29AM (#51215379)

    Raymorris you shoot your mouth off f'ing up in 2 security fuckups https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47379233/ & https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47374033/ + raymorris = scriptkiddie https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8895203&cid=51726265/

    &

    Tell us how ONLY 'newer script kiddie tools' have stringlength built in (when PASCAL had it for ages - my fav tool) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8472509&cid=51114383/ YOU BLUNDERING WANNABE!

    APK

    P.S.=> You like to talk behind others' backs like the gossiping bitch TROLL you are raymorris https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9880997&cid=53312265/ well, here I am letting YOU TALK in those links, showing your FAILS wannabe ... apk

  36. Re:I'm always amazed when someone will do somethin by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    for their dumb job that could land them in jail. Talk about screwed up priorities.

    Obviously you have never had a family depending on you.

    It's easy for a young child like you to judge others.

    A man understands that people sometimes have to do things they would not otherwise do because circumstances force it.

    Obviously, you've been raised by unethical parents. It's easy for you to rationalize your bad behavior instead of getting off your ass and finding a legal/moral solution. Stop blaming others for your problems, and grow up.

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  37. Re:Wisdom follows, pay attention! by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Sure, let's just punish the shareholders instead of the jackasses who were actually responsible. If Merkel is dumb enough to start a trade war over that, then so be it.

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  38. For you AC Whiners by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Plenty of ACs have posted here that the U.S. is only going after non-American firms. Well, here's your red meat...

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business...

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  39. Re:Wisdom follows, pay attention! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think GP is full of excrement, but what makes you think one can still start a trade war after the opposing party has already started it?